Hannity attacked caller for stating that Rove was "involved" in Plame leak: "You sound like a nut case"

On his nationally syndicated radio show, Fox News host Sean Hannity responded to a caller's assertion that White House senior adviser Karl Rove was "involved" in the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity by labeling the caller a "nut case" and accusing him of "hatred, hatred, hatred for Bush and anyone associated with him."
The caller's initial comments concerned an October 19 New York Daily News article that reported President Bush had learned of Rove's role in the Plame leak around September 2003 and was "initially furious" at his senior aide. The caller contrasted this disclosure with Bush's pledge in June 2004 to fire anyone in his administration involved in the leak. When Hannity subsequently accused him of "hatred" toward the Bush administration, the caller stated, "I haven't said anything about hating George Bush. I said that he did not tell the truth to the American people. I want him to keep his word." Hannity went on to ask the caller "Where's the evidence that Karl Rove lied?" and "Just because Karl Rove testified four times, you are declaring him guilty here?" The caller responded, "No, I said he's involved. ... And the president said he would fire anyone involved."
From the October 25 broadcast of ABC Radio Networks' The Sean Hannity Show:
HANNITY: [Caller]. New York. Hello.
CALLER: Hi there. You know something? What you conveniently leave out every time is that the president and everyone around him has said they can't wait to get to the bottom of this. They have no idea. But the Daily News has reported that the president knew Rove was behind the leak. He knew he was involved. And the president promised to fire anyone that --
HANNITY: Hey, [Caller]. [Caller]. [Caller]. [Caller]. Where's the evidence that he was behind the leak? And if that's true, wouldn't that be the one thing that you would expect an indictment on? And what is the statute that you would like to apply there beyond your -- you know, I-hate-Karl Rove standard? What is your -- where is your evidence? What is the statute? Where is it applicable?
CALLER: The statutes I want applied is that when the president comes out before the American people and says that he will fire anyone involved, and now we know Karl Rove is involved --
HANNITY: No, no, no -- that, that -- where is your evidence that Karl Rove is involved?
CALLER: He lied to me. And as long as you're going to talk about --
HANNITY: [Caller]. [Caller]. I know -- I know you hate Bush and Rove. Where is your evidence that Karl Rove is involved? What's your evidence?
CALLER: He's been to the grand jury four times. That's involved.
HANNITY: So he went to the grand jury four times to testify, and that's a conviction in your book?
CALLER: The president didn't say he'd fire anyone convicted. He said he'd fire anyone involved.
HANNITY: By the way, ladies and gentlemen, I want to you to please -- hang on. [Caller], don't hang up. We need to use you for a second here. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a classic example of modern liberalism. Hatred, hatred, hatred for Bush and anyone associated with him. Throw him in jail! He testified four times before the -- all right, I'm going to ask you again, [caller]. Do you really want to convict somebody on the idea that he just testified four times before the grand jury? I ask you again, what evidence do you have -- you're so certain that Karl Rove leaked. Where's the evidence?
CALLER: Sean, I'm not going to let you lie about what I just said.
HANNITY: No, I want --
CALLER: I haven't said anything about hating George Bush. I said that he did not tell the truth to the American people. I want him to keep his word.
HANNITY: Hang on. Where's the evidence Karl Rove lied? You said he lied and leaked. Where's the evidence?
CALLER: I didn't say Karl Rove lied. I said the president lied. He would fire anyone involved and he hasn't --
HANNITY: You said Karl Rove -- you said Karl Rove leaked, and you said the evidence is that he went to the grand jury four times. What is your evidence that Karl Rove did this, though?
CALLER: He went to the grand jury four times? It's been reported to everyone.
HANNITY: Oh, boy.
CALLER: It's also been reported --
HANNITY: Hillary Clinton was before the grand jury for six hours. Does that make her guilty?
CALLER: This doesn't have to do with guilt. This has to do with the president's words. You can either take a man at his word, or you can't. I come from New York. Upstate New York.
HANNITY: Oh.
CALLER: It's frog country up here.
HANNITY: Yeah.
CALLER: We keep our word here, and we know what it means when a man is a man of his word.
HANNITY: [Caller], [caller] --
CALLER: And everyone listening to this show knows what the president said.
HANNITY: You sound like a nut. You sound like a nut case.
CALLER: You can call as many names as you want.
HANNITY: No. I just want to know -- just because Karl Rove testified four times, you are declaring him guilty here?
CALLER: No, I said he's involved.
HANNITY: He's involved.
CALLER: And the president said he would fire anyone involved.
HANNITY: Just because somebody testifies, [caller], before a grand jury doesn't mean he's involved. It doesn't mean anything. You don't have any evidence except that -- all you know is he's been questioned about the case. We know that. That's not evidence, proof, or guilt. I'm addressing your illogic here. Just before -- just because he testified four times, you're saying the president's guilty. You know what? You're nuts. I've got to run.











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Hannity talks about illogic? WTF? The caller was %100 correct. Bush said he would fire anyone involved and was going to get to the bottom of the case. Now we know Rove was INVOLVED..to what degree we can only assume, but he was involved...and Bush is doing everything in his power to cover for Rove and smear the Presecutor. the caller is right and Bush has not been loyal to his word.
But then Hannity closes with this: "I'm addressing your illogic here. Just before -- just because he testified four times, you're saying the president's guilty. You know what? You're nuts."
Seriously, this is the most insane use of logic I've ever read. He takes what the caller says, and tries to turn it into because Rove testified 4 times BUsh is GUILTY? WTF? Not even ONE of thseo things was ever said or even hinted at by the caller.
I'm with ya, Rose.
This caller was dead on and all Hannity had left was to twist the caller's words and start insulting him.
HA!
Replace "liberalism" with "conservatism", and "Bush" with "Clinton".
See how that works Sean?
"Replace "liberalism" with "conservatism", and "Bush" with "Clinton".
See how that works Sean?"...by deeznuts
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Agreed.
It's funny how Hannity has conveniently forgotten the Far-Rights relentless ATTACKS on Clinton.
Payback is a B#tch.
I just wonder IF this is the way it will be from now on? BOTH sides PLAYING HIT YOU LAST?
Wouldn't it be great IF these idiots in Wahington ACTUALLY did something for us, INSTEAD of TRYING to find ways to SCREW each other?
It's funny how Hannity has conveniently forgotten the Far-Rights relentless ATTACKS on Clinton. -by jeter2
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I have to agree with you much of this is turning out to be very ironic…when we think back to Clinton.
I was listening to Hannity the other day and he said something that made my jaw drop and then burst out laughing because it was so ironic and Hannity seemed clueless to it.
I’m paraphrasing a bit here but he said something along the lines of:
If it turns out that some one is indicted not for the original crime but for something that occurred during the investigation of the crime then that will be a truly sad day for America.
He also talked about how much the investigation cost us tax payers.
"I have to agree with you much of this is turning out to be very ironic…when we think back to Clinton.
I was listening to Hannity the other day and he said something that made my jaw drop and then burst out laughing because it was so ironic and Hannity seemed clueless to it.
I’m paraphrasing a bit here but he said something along the lines of:
If it turns out that some one is indicted not for the original crime but for something that occurred during the investigation of the crime then that will be a truly sad day for America.
He also talked about how much the investigation cost us tax payers."...by lostlogic
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I know, it's AMAZING isn't it? The sad thing is even IF someone pointed THIS out to Hannity I don't think it would even PENETRATE through his thick skull.
How MANY investigations were ongoing against Clinton and how many tax dollars SPENT...only to FINALLY nail him for an "inappropriate sex act"?? NOTHING else came to fruition. Such a waste of TIME&MONEY.
And I liked Bill Clinton, I thought he was a good President. Sadly, the Far-Right held him (and the rest of us "hostage") trying to destroy the man
I'm not sure how this Rove-Libby thing will play out, BUT even I, a Conservative, will not shed a tear IF they BOTH go down.
He also talked about how much the investigation cost us tax payers.
How much did that end up costing taxpayers 8 years ago? $60 million? And how much of a tab has Fitzgerald run up in this investigation [seriously, I've not seen any dollar figure attached to it]?
Jeter2 said: "I just wonder IF this is the way it will be from now on? BOTH sides PLAYING HIT YOU LAST?
Wouldn't it be great IF these idiots in Wahington ACTUALLY did something for us, INSTEAD of TRYING to find ways to SCREW each other?"
Geez, Jeter, it almost sounds like you want adults running the government! What a concept! Don't you realize that your radical plan could lead to progress in this country? Not to mention lower ratings for the talking heads who get off on "gotcha".
To (mis)quote Reverend Lovejoy's Wife: For G**'s sake, won't somebody please think of the talking heads!
Compare the caller's relative calm with Hannity's apoplectic response -- that's all you need to hear/see. Any issue that brings unfavorable press or discredit to Bush always results in the "Bush hater" response from Hannity (and the usual swipe at "liberalism"). The caller is right: obviously Rove is "involved" -- there should be no dispute over that. And if Rove ends up being indicted? Wonder what Hannity will do?
Hannity kept putting words in the caller's mouth. Over and over. It is almost impossible to have a conversation with Hannity. His screeners identify callers as sympathetic/conservative or combative/liberal. He usually announces the liberals as such even before he even puts them on the air to appropriately innoculate his listeners against anything they may hear.
Hannity is all "You're a great American" with the conservatives, but with the liberals he is "So your a big lib, huh? What do you want?"
How could anyone expect an honest conversation from such a biggoted person?
He usually announces the liberals as such even before he even puts them on the air to appropriately innoculate his listeners against anything they may hear.
He also reruns the claim that he has more opposition on his show than anyone else. Much like the 'Fair and Balanced' tagline, if you have to keep reminding your audience of this instead of letting it speak for itself, its a dubious claim at best.
Besides, anyone who listens to Neal Boortz knows he has nothing BUT opposition callers, and doesn't have to remind listeners of it.
Clearly they are all coming unhinged. The pressure is getting to them. Rivets are popping. Seams are splitting. Cold, briny water is gushing through the breach, it's up to their chins, they can feel the icy hands of death clutching at their very souls...or something like that. Really, what a bunch of drama queens.
Hannity has lost all touch with reality. Rove's lawyer admitted he was involved which isnt the same as guilty. Hannity is the one who looks like a nut
Question has anyone ever witnessed a reasoned debate from hannity with any "liberal" guest? Ever? While his rants are quite amusing I can hardly see how anyone would take Hannity seriously.
Exactly libby,
The only ones who really take Hannity seriously are his dye hard supporters and those that gush over him on the air......the rest of us know he is hack partisan, who cares?
Libby,
You guys always say people don’t take these right wing pundits seriously, but there are many who do. There is a poster who frequents this site who thinks Hannity is the greatest; she also thinks that about Boortz. Other than the aforementioned instances that contradict this, she seems lucid enough. I have another little anecdote for you. This past tax season I could hear a client in the adjacent cubicle (they really need to get private offices) going on and on about the Hannity show she had watched the night before and how SMART and HANDSOME Hannity is and how she gets the truth from his show. She was also doing a fair share of Liberal bashing. I felt sorry for the tax preparer because he was in no way encouraging this conversation, he just said oh and ah. I think he was just trying to amuse his client. On my way out I had to peep in the cubicle, the client looked completely sane and the tax preparer just looked exhausted.
P.S.
and no more Ebonics jokes or I’m going to get out the NC map.
You guys always say people don’t take these right wing pundits seriously, but there are many who do. lynn
I agree with that Lynn. But when you hear these individuals talk that way at least you know they are coming from thus you know at what level to deal with them. I apologize if you were offended by my remark. It was not my intention and it won't happen again. My first 5 years in Charlotte(so you don't have to get a map) I was the only non-African american in my division and I guess I joke about things that some would consider offensive but none of my co-workers ever did. And by the way I highly recommend Charlotte as a place to live.
I was just kidding you Libby. I didn't take offense at all, I assumed you were joking.
"You guys always say people don’t take these right wing pundits seriously, but there are many who do." -Lynn-
You're right Lynn, my Aunt, an otherwise intelligent, pleasant person is a fierce Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly fan.
Sometime ago {during last year's Presidential campaign} I wrote here how she sent me an angry e-mail after I {mistakenly} sent her a Bush joke. I always try to avoid talking politics around her, but occasionally when drawn into the topic I try to remain neutral {just to keep the peace}
Thankfully my Aunt and Uncle live in another state so this situation doesn't happen too often.
They were just here a few weeks ago and unfortunately someone brought up politics. Since my husband {a Republican-but not the hard headed type} and I watch O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes nightly--I'm very familiar with their "talking points". My Aunt repeated them almost verbatim. It was scary.
So yes there are people out there who believe everything they are told by these people, and take them very seriously.
Is anyone's attention span SO short that they can't figure out Hannity's tactic here?
Here's a little exercise in empathy for you conservative Bush apologists. Just think back to how you felt during the Clinton investigation, before the Blue Dress was found. Remember that feeling, whatever it was, and you probably have an idea of how many of us on the left feel about your precious W. Now that you have a handle on it, you can process that information any way you see fit. Or, you can ignore it and continue to puzzle over the "Hatred, hatred, hatred for Bush and anyone associated with him" that Hannity and Limbaugh keep chirping about.
Four trips to a grand jury? Seems like one trip would be enough to settle the 'involved' question. Rove's in this right up to his neck.
Pile this on top of all the other troubles happening in the train wreck that is the Bush administration and you've got a recipe for a public relations disaster. Hannity's rant only continues to show that the right-wing bobble heads are really starting to crack under the pressure of propping up a wreckless, dishonest presidency.
wow, i'd like to hug that caller !!!!!! great responses to hannity's BS !!
The "nut" standard Hannity used on the caller can be used against him. I have noticed that sooner or later Hannity, like O'Reilly, meet their own standards. An effective defense against Hannity and the Hateful Right is to hold them to their own standards. I can't count how many times Fox newscasters go off on raging tangents. Most of the time they use a drown-out tactic to intimidate their critics, and if you watch them, they seem to be almost bullying them. To see it take on a cheap thuggish like quality is like watching a police interrogation. We have been lied to for so long; I think the American people are tired of people like Hannity and O'Reilly. Their styles point to the main reason we need media reform.
Joseph
- I think the American people are tired of people like Hannity and O'Reilly. - joseph ================================================================
I think you're tired of them but many Americans are not. That's why they continue to smash all competition in the nightly cable news ratings.
And they get equally trounced by wrestling, Spongebob, and reruns of Law and Order. And that's just cable. On networks, they would have been cancelled after 5 episodes.
Who'd have thought that CalvinBall could be played in reality. All you need to do is change the rules as you go.
Hannity would score top points everytime!
Hannity is now making light of the Libby indictments today and acting as though it was no big deal.
Oops... posted this in the wrong thread! Sorry!