O'Reilly's explanation for Cleveland Plain Dealer's opposition to Jessica's Law? City's "heavily minority, urban situation"
Bill O'Reilly criticized Ohio newspapers' opposition to mandatory sentencing laws for those found guilty of raping a child under 13, stating "the media [in Ohio] looks like they are left-wing loons." In particular, O'Reilly singled out the Cleveland Plain Dealer for its criticism of such laws, saying that while he doesn't understand the opposition by other cities' papers, he does understand the Plain Dealer's opposition: Cleveland's "heavily minority, urban situation."
During a discussion with conservative Cincinnati radio host Bill Cunningham about the Ohio state Senate's recent approval of mandatory sentencing for those found guilty of raping a child under 13, Bill O'Reilly denounced the opposition on the part of numerous Ohio newspapers to mandatory sentencing laws, stating "the media [in Ohio] looks like they are left-wing loons." In particular, O'Reilly singled out Cleveland's The Plain Dealer for its criticism of such laws, saying that while he doesn't understand the opposition by other cities' papers, he does understand the Plain Dealer's opposition: Cleveland's "heavily minority, urban situation." O'Reilly's comments came during the April 12 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor.
An April 4 Plain Dealer editorial described its opposition to mandatory sentences for sex offenders this way: "[T]he guarantee of a long mandatory sentence might prompt more of them [accused offenders] to take their cases to trial, and some prosecutors have expressed the fear that guilty people will win some of those cases." The editorial added: "TV talker Bill O'Reilly may stir up some voters with his foaming-at-the-mouth campaign to impeach judges he considers lenient toward sex offenders. But public policy in Ohio should not be dictated by someone in search of ratings."
As Media Matters for America has noted (here, here and here), O'Reilly has mischaracterized numerous newspaper editorials on the subject of child abuse. He repeated one such mischaracterization on his April 12 show when he included the Dayton Daily News in an onscreen list of Ohio newspapers who "were largely sympathetic to Judge John Connor, who sentenced a child rapist, who confessed, to probation." As Media Matters noted, O'Reilly previously claimed that the Daily News "apparently believes Connor should not be sanctioned for giving probation to a child rapist and is smearing anyone who disagrees with that." In fact, a Daily News editorial merely argued for Connor to receive due process in any proceeding to remove him from his judgeship that some Ohio officials have threatened to bring against him, citing O'Reilly as among prominent people calling for Connor's removal who have faced "personal legal problems" of their own and who should "realize on a very personal level the importance of a legal system not inflamed by the politics of the moment.
From the April 12 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: In the "Unresolved Problems" segment tonight: protecting the kids. By a vote of 32-1, the Ohio state Senate has passed a version of Jessica's Law that mandates prison terms of 25 years to life for the rape of a child under the age of 13. Now, the House is expected to take the bill up in a couple weeks, and obviously we hope it passes, but most Ohio newspapers disagree with us. The Akron Beacon Journal, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, and the Columbus Dispatch all oppose Jessica's Law, and indeed, those newspapers and others were largely sympathetic to Judge John Connor, who sentenced a child rapist, who confessed, to probation. That controversy led to the Jessica's Law vote, as you may know. Now, when we confronted Connor about his awful sentence, he told us he could not legally speak about it, but that was not true. A few weeks later Connor went on the radio with NPR reporter Bob Garfield. Unfortunately, Mr. Garfield conducted a softball interview, and both Connor and Garfield had a swell time of it. Joining us now from Cincinnati is Bill Cunningham, a radio talk show host on WLW-AM. You know, Ohio is a Red State, and Ohio is a traditional-value state. But the media looks like they are left-wing loons. Am I wrong?
CUNNINGHAM: Well, Bill, you're partially right. The editorial sections of the major newspapers are left-winged loons. I've lived in Cincinnati my whole life, went to law school in Toledo. I have on the Columbus and Cleveland politicians. And when you talk about sexually abused children from Sri Lanka or anywhere, the prosecutors do not like strict sentencing because it takes away options. The defense bar doesn't like these kinds of Jessica Laws because it hurts business down the road. The judges don't like it because it takes away their authority, and the liberals who run these big-city newspapers in Ohio, believe it or not, are just like The New York Times or The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. They went to the same schools. So, they're against Jessica's Law, and they're in favor of Judge Connor. Only the people, I think, are in favor of what you started about a month ago, when you had that video of Judge John Connor seemingly walking away from a St. Patrick's Day's get-together. The people, I think, are with us. The problem is the politicians, the lawyers, the prosecutors, the judges, and the editorial boards are not.
O'REILLY: OK, but the politicians, I mean -- in the Senate, 32-1. That's pretty overwhelming, and we believe that the House will probably pass the bill, and the governor will sign it. But I don't understand -- I understand Cleveland Plain Dealer. All right, now that city, obviously, heavily minority, urban situation. But I don't understand Dayton. I don't understand Columbus. The Toledo Blade was the only newspaper that openly spoke out against Connor. And I'm saying to myself, here's a guy who not only has given out insane sentences over his career but is a felon himself. [Connor has been arrested several times for drunken driving and was convicted of cocaine possession in 1984.] And this -- and they love him. They love him.
















Are you saying that minorities like child abuse Bill? Instead of throwing around vague comments like that why don't you say what you really think. Are you saying that you don't think that minorities will ever support anything that is tougher on crime because they are mostly criminals themselves? Why don't you expound on your vague statement Bill, I would love to hear it.
Heavily Urban Minority Situation = Black enemy Fair and Balanced = White man Liberal = N Word Conservative = Redneck GOP = Gestapo Freedom = Right to oppress others Liberation = Right to invade and destroy Clean Air = Right to pollute Clinton = N Word
(excerpts from the Devil's Lexicon)
Heavily Urban Minority Situation = Black enemy
Fair and Balanced = White man
Liberal = N Word
Conservative = Redneck
GOP = Gestapo
Freedom = Right to oppress others
Liberation = Right to invade and destroy
Clean Air = Right to pollute
Clinton = N Word
(excerpts from the Devil's Lexicon)
- heru
". But I don't understand -- I understand Cleveland Plain Dealer. All right, now that city, obviously, heavily minority, urban situation"
Can someone please translate this for me? Just when I thought I've mastered right wingese they say something to stump me. Leatherhelmet translate this please?
Perhaps minorities=democrats=liberals
If that was what he meant he should have said that.
I'm reflecting HIS view point that liberals are soft on crime, not mine. whew
...this is hot on the heels of his silly claim that blacks are largely conservative, so who knows what goes on in his swollen head.
I was watching when he made this new comment, and I thought, "We'll see that on Media Matters." It's just a knee-jerk anti-minority comment that even he probably hasn't thought through. In his insulated white millionaire world, the words "urban" and "minority" are synonymous with "boogeyman." All the scary, poor unwashed masses that huddle together in the crime-invested Sodoms and Gommorahs like San Francisco and, apparently, Cleveland.
I don't even think he understands what he's saying. It's a ridiculous non-sequitar that has absolutely no meaning within the context of his ramblings.
He's a clown that has lost complete touch with reality.
When it comes to views on the legal system, whites and blacks tend to differ.
Blacks tend to look upon the legal system with suspicion, and they tend to be against required minimum sentencing. Blacks tend to think many people are falsely accused and convicted.
Whites tend to look upon the legal system with trust and respect and tend to think that most people are properly accused and convicted.
The newspaper with more minority customers might be expected to editorialize to suit them.
Of course, all of the above are tendencies, and there are whites mistrustful of the legal system and blacks who do have trust in it.
Does anyone need more proof?
He's just being sarcastic!! Right?
She's shrill and likes lesbians. Bill disgraced the oval office, , by lying, it had nothing to do with sex....Anybody who objects to what bill said obviously hates Christmas.
By just throwing around a few words into a charged subject, Bill O'Slyly attempts to smear urban minorities...disgusting..
Simply amazing!
I give you "permission" to WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD him for a solid week! And if you don't, I'll never watch you again. Until tomorrow night.
Like the Pee Dee owner Jake the Snake (not the wrestler) who forced them not to post an endorsement of Kerry?
Oh and the "Cleveland's "heavily minority, urban situation " I guess Cleveland minorities by his Falafel-addled senses equal pro-child molestation.
Oh and didn't he crow that he was from the mean streets of Leavitttown? What, with his slam on those damn urbanites, did those mean streets turn into amber waves of grain?
Oh, and Bill Cunningham, stay in Cinci... because you would get obliterated in the much larger market of Cleveland. My apologies to the good people of Cinci.
Has Bill ever used the term "right wing loon" on his show, ever?
The sad fact is that his brain dead listeners don't fact check what this moron says. On a side note: Just think, There were good honest people in Iraq that are now dead in large part because of vile propagandists like Oreilly.
That's what his show's name refers to:
reality x some bizarre fuzzy irrational unknown = O'Reilly version
Possibly he was thinking of the Sheppard case and connecting it to soft on crime? Or the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame? Or Chrissie Hynde's 'Ohio' song?
No, I just figured it out: he was thinking of Grover Cleveland, who had an illegitimate child and by acknowledging that fact, defused the Republican attack. From there O'Reilly intuited that:
Cleveland: child: sex scandal: acknowledge = Cleveland: child: sex abuse: reveal
And by instinctively applying algebraic principles to "factor" out quantities on both sides of the equation and converting reciprocals, etc., he calculated an answer that seems improbable...until you work it out. Like many "calculators savant" he forgets that most of us need to step it through.
Of course, the name of the city has nothing to do with the name of the president but the O'Reilly logic works with abstractions, not facts.
on MMFA for a couple of weeks now, just his attempt to re-establish himself as "King of the MBBE Hill."
He's no longer the fearsome BOR. He's morphed into a schmuck doing an incoherent imitation of the brilliant Stephen Colbert.
When O'Reilly referred to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, was he really thinking of the Paris Business Review?
They have a lot in common. One didn't say what he said it did, and the other couldn't say what he said it did because it doesn't exist.
at BOR's characterization of the Plain Dealer Editorial page being left wing loony. I live here. I read the paper. I laugh at that! It's pretty right wing loony!
I'm interested if anyone has any data on what percentage of sex offenders are actually minorities.
They're all in the minority group known as "sex offenders."
That "minority group" known as "sex offenders" has a subcategory: Those with enough cash to buy off their victims. Approached with enough cash, victims of the sex offender can be persuaded NOT to press charges, and so the WEALTHY sex offender is able to avoid prosecution.
So, you have sex offenders who face the law, and then you have sex offenders who are just as perverted and sick, just as predatory and vile, but who evade JUSTICE by virtue of their pocketbook.
It has always been thus. And just as predictable, these sex offenders will claim an INTACT VIRTUE, because they haven't been tried and sentenced. They might even claim to be "looking out for us". How creepy and wrong THAT is.
Bill: Premise A: Liberal "loons" (Bill does not use smear tactics?) opose Bill x that has to do with Child molesters (?) Premise B: The 'only" explanation is that Liberals are in favor of Child Molestation (?)(of course we have always known this haven't we Bill? this is nothing new) Conclusions: You should HATE liberals (so don't even listen to what they have to say- Bill will tell you what they have to say)- Minorities are liberal (you should hate them too).
Sound Rational? at all???????? I think someone's a loon and he ain't a liberal!
until the Ministers of Propiganda such as O'Reilly start saying that we should all have barcodes tattooed on our forearms?
Seems like everything he says now is all about playing the racist card and playing it hard.