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NBC still disapproves of -- still milking controversy over -- Coulter comments

June 15, 2006 7:39 pm ET

For the third time in a week, NBC provided a forum for Ann Coulter's hateful rhetoric and continued to milk the controversy that surrounds her. On The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Coulter again discussed her attacks on the widows of 9-11 victims. Media Matters for America asks what other NBC show will try to capitalize on the ratings boost the network clearly thinks Coulter brings.

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For the third time in a week, an NBC host or anchor purported to disapprove of right-wing pundit Ann Coulter's invective against the widows of 9-11 victims, while the network continues to milk the controversy it helped create and continues to bolster sales of her new book -- Godless: The Church of Liberalism -- in which her attacks on the widows and many others can be found. This time the host was Jay Leno and the show was the June 14 broadcast of The Tonight Show. But just as Today co-host Matt Lauer and Nightly News anchor Brian Williams shined a spotlight on Coulter and her most inflammatory comments, Leno gave Coulter yet another opportunity to promote herself and her book, even as he characterized her comments in the book as "harsh" and "nasty."

Media Matters for America asks what other NBC show will try to capitalize on the ratings boost the network clearly thinks Coulter brings: Meet the Press? Dateline? Deal or No Deal? Perhaps Fear Factor ...

From the June 14 edition of NBC's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, on which Coulter appeared with comedian George Carlin:

LENO: All righty. My next guest is a best-selling author. Her latest book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism, has debuted at Number 1 on the New York Times bestseller list. Also started a huge controversy, which we'll talk about. Please welcome Ann Coulter.

OK. Thanks for coming. Do you know George? You haven't met him.

COULTER: No, but he was just very funny. I like "the Catholics don't have the nuke."

CARLIN: I never thought when Ann Coulter came out I would have to move to the right.

LENO: Now, news junkies know this story. A lot of people don't. Explain. You're on the Today show. I think this is where this all sort of started. Explain what happened.

COULTER: Well, I wrote a book, and liberals were hysterical. It's getting to be kind of kabuki theater. I write a book, they're hysterical. It happens all the time.

LENO: All right.

COULTER: My perspective on it is -- I understand you had an Ann Coulter joke last night, Jay.

LENO: Oh, I have a bunch of Ann Coulter jokes all the time.

COULTER: That I was worried about Dorothy's house falling on me.

LENO: I think that was the joke, yeah. And then, I had the -- the other joke was I liked you fighting Sigourney Weaver in the Alien. I think that was the other movie I did.

COULTER: Well, see, in my perspective I'm Dorothy --

LENO: Really?

COULTER: -- and I've just dropped my house on the mainstream media.

LENO: I think probably -- probably the most controversial remark, and this is the quote from the book, I think this is the one that's got everyone upset. Do you want me to read it? Would you rather read it?

COULTER: Oh, you go ahead. I love to hear my words.

LENO: This is talking about the 9-11 widows. Correct?

COULTER: Yeah.

LENO: It says, "These broads are millionaires lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis. I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." It seems harsh to me.

COULTER: Yes, well, I was wrong about one thing. This is the infallibility chapter: How liberals send out victims to make their points for them so that we can't respond. And I said, you know, you can't respond to these four women because everyone will get mad at you. But I went on the Today show and criticized them, and there hasn't been a peep about it as far as I can tell.

LENO: Do you have any regrets about it?

COULTER: So apparently, you can attack them.

LENO: See, you know -- this is what fascinates me, because you're a very good writer.

COULTER: Thank you.

LENO: It's so different than the way I work. Maybe because I'm a comic. See, my thing is, it's sort of more flies with honey. You make your point even if you get a couple of digs in, you make your point. Whereas it seems to me, the words you've used have overshadowed the point what you were trying to make, to the point where people are upset about you attacking the widows, they don't understand the point you were trying to make. And I think most people still don't understand the point you were trying to make.

COULTER: Well, I suppose I'm not really trying to attract people. If I wanted to attract people, you know, I'd wear sexy dresses, grow my hair long.

LENO: No, I got you.

COULTER: Oh, wait, no. No, I think that is not true, actually. I mean, other people have written acerbic little remarks about Democrats sending out victims, Cindy Sheehan, Max Cleland, these four women from New Jersey, making the exact same points Howard Dean could be making, but we can attack Howard Dean. But in this case, their husbands died, their son died, we can't respond. And I don't think the nation's attention has ever been riveted on this victim as spokesman as it has in the last week. I don't think that trick's going to work anymore.

LENO: I mean, why use the term -- because I noticed, I saw you on a show the other day. You said "these women." Yet in the book you use the word "these broads." I mean, why --

COULTER: Men use the word broads all the time to talk about women. If we're getting to that level of parsing my language, there will be no end to this.

LENO: See, it's just confusing. Because I say -- is the point -- now I don't say this sarcastically -- is the point of the book to move forth your conservative ideas, what you think, or is it to sell books?

COULTER: Well, it is to make a point, and now that it is the number one book in the country I think that point will be made. I must say. I mean, I had a lot of my friends read the book before it came out, and I gave it to my smartest liberal friends, and I told them you're smarter than any liberal I'm going to be on TV with. I didn't know I was going to be on with you [Carlin]. And I said, I want you to attack this book. You go through it with a fine-toothed comb. And I got to tell you, not my friends, not my editors, not the lawyer, not the liberal pulled out the chapter on the Jersey Girls. I mean, I think if you read that chapter -- I mean, the funny thing about this is I'm calling liberals godless. Oh, they're cool with that. Just don't attack the Jersey Girls.

LENO: Now, you said your liberal friend. Is there only one?

COULTER: Yes.

LENO: Have you ever had sex with a liberal?

COULTER: No.

LENO: Really?

COULTER: No.

LENO: You should try it, see what it's like.

COULTER: I read about it in Esquire, and it does not sound good.

LENO: Have your editors or anybody ever suggested that you that change anything, and would you if they did?

COULTER: A few changes here and there. But not much on this one. This one -- this one was the least edited of my books.

LENO: I mean, does --

COULTER: I didn't say.

LENO: The one thing that sort of bothers me about politics, and I enjoy politics, but I really don't enjoy the civility -- you know, I have friends -- I really do have friends on both sides. Because I'm one of those people --

COULTER: You seem like that.

LENO: I'm fiscally conservative, but I'm probably socially liberal. So, I have friends on both sides, and we have very nice discussions. Lately everything is so nasty. And this would qualify as nasty, wouldn't you think?

COULTER: I think it's not nasty.

LENO: No? You don't think so?

COULTER: And the other thing is, I mean, yeah, we hear this all the time about how civil things were back when there were only three TV stations. Well, they were really civil in the Soviet Union that had only one TV station. I mean, this alleged disruption of civility is conservatives being able to talk back now through talk radio, through the Internet, through Fox News.

Through your audience.

LENO: Have you ever been hurt by something someone said?

COULTER: I was wounded when I wrote my "Attack France" column and even liberals didn't mind that one.

LENO: See, you put up a good front. But you know what I'm saying.

COULTER: Um, no.

LENO: You know what I'm saying, seriously. I mean, have you ever went, "Ooh, that person went a little bit too far attacking me," or whatever?

COULTER: No. I'm -- to quote Dan Quayle, one of your other targets -- I wear their contempt as a badge of honor.

LENO: Now, do you travel, like, with a bodyguard now? Do you find --

COULTER: Well, I travel with conservative men. They're -- they're pretty fearsome. Unlike the liberals you showed the last time I was on when I spoke on a college campus. We got the nuanced liberals throwing food, and they missed. Yeah, unlike them, I think my male friends can take 'em.

LENO: All right. The book's title --

COULTER: Godless. Which liberals don't mind.

LENO: Explain what you mean by that. Explain what you mean --

COULTER: I mean, no one's complained. I think if somebody called me godless, I'd take notice of it. No, they're obsessed with this one section of one chapter. But the point of the book is that liberalism has become like a religion. All the bad things associated with religions, which I don't think you see that much from the God-based religions, by the way.

[Turns to Carlin]

Though I think you do.

[Turns back to Leno]

But the self-righteousness, the intolerance, the refusal to countenance differing beliefs. And by denying that it's a religion, I mean, they have their own cosmology, their own world view, their own belief in miracles. They promote themselves through the schools, through the government, the children are baptized in the religion of global warming, of recycling, of safe sex, but you can't even have a moment of silence. I mean, that is preferring one religion over another, and they advance themselves by denying their religion. And this is describing the religion of liberalism.

LENO: Well, the book is called The Church of Liberalism, godlessness. Ann, thank you. Always fascinating to have you here.

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    • Author by peet (June 15, 2006 7:43 pm ET)
         

      What can you say? She's accomplished her goal.

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      • Author by heru (June 16, 2006 8:31 pm ET)
           

        Why does this devil wear the same dirty black dress every day? She must smell like a Lemnian.

        Ann Coulter, wash your nasty assus!

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    • Author by dave_chicago (June 15, 2006 8:05 pm ET)
         

      A person had to work pretty hard to find even a mention Stephen Colbert's (of Comedy Central's Colbert Report) forthright, serious, and unvarnished remarks about Bush and the lapdog media at the White House dinner a few weeks ago. Colbert and his accurate critiques were for all practical purposes ignored by newspapers, tv and radio, and he was beaten-up by the right-wing blogosphere. Not so for Coulter however.

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    • Author by MickD (June 15, 2006 8:41 pm ET)
         

      Jay Leno asking if AC ever had carnal knowledge with a liberal could be a great challenge for a swanky lib to try and bed the witch and then go to the tabloids and expose her. Wear protection.

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    • Author by mefirst (June 15, 2006 8:45 pm ET)
         

      it was "liberals" who sent out the jersey girls. i think this was pretty much a decision they made on their own after bush refused to investigate 9-11. how in the world is it a "liberal" thing to want to know what happened and who failed to do what? unless of course, you're a bush toady like coulter and you think his image is more important than the welfare and security of the country. and her "point" is bogus. if they speak up because of the circumstances they found themselves in, that is their right. coulter is saying they're not allowed to. and i have yet to hear of the people who supposedly say you can't respond to them. the usual strawman argument. i'm sure they don't mind a legitimate argument. what pray tell is your "response" ann? that bush shouldn't be questioned on anything he does? because so far the only response i've seen you make to them is your asinine juvenile name calling. face it annie, your boy is king midas in reverse. everything he touches turns into a disaster. and you're just another neocon wannabe who continues to be wrong in everything you predicted. you and bush: totally wrong on iraq. the people who predicted a disaster: totally right.

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      • Author by truthseeker77 (June 15, 2006 9:15 pm ET)
           

        I wonder if he'd be this soft and butt-kissing had his daughter, if he has one, been a 9-11 victim.

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    • Author by snoopy (June 15, 2006 9:24 pm ET)
         

      OK, if a liberal trots out a victim, somehow that's bad because it can't be properly "discussed", or responded to. But if a republican trots out a perp, even though they are doing the same exact thing by bringing up something you can't discuss, or respond to, that's ok. Anybody care to explain that one?

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      • Author by rixhex56 (June 16, 2006 5:20 pm ET)
           

        ...and the Repugs also use victims to advance their illegal war, which also makes it impossible to respond. I have encountered conservatives in my daily life who make comments like, "if you had lost a relative in those attacks, you'd be glad we attacked Iraq..." yada, yada, yada...

        So, they use the perps AND the vics, and when liberals respond, we are "unpatriotic", "un-American", "helping the enemy", " etc.

        This all so pathetic, and OBVIOUS, that it is embarrassing to even have to be discussing it.

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    • Author by guy montag (June 15, 2006 9:47 pm ET)
         

      The reason Liberals don't complain about her book "Godless" is because it's so preposterous. Ann Coulter calling Liberalism a "religion" is as bigoted as Adolf Hitler calling Judaism a "race." And that ended in the Holocaust. Coulter's book is terribly superficial, like all her writing.

      Did you see the woman guitar player/singer who came on right after Coulter? She had a sign on her guitar: "This Machine Kills Fascists." Woody Guthrie created that idea in the late 1930s. I think the woman did that for Coulter's benefit.

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    • Author by Lando_Calrissian (June 15, 2006 10:24 pm ET)
         

      I was kind of surprised (but not really... it is Jay Leno) that the vast majority of the studio audience was fully supporting coulter and cheering and hooting every time she'd slag the liberals or basically say anything. I wonder if George would have been more vocal had the audience not been full of right wing nut cases. The one thing I did notice about him is the whole time she was out there, he had a disgusted kind of "I'm trying my best to tune her out" look on his face and at the end of the interview, you could see him rubbing his palms together and blowing into them as if to show that it was getting very cold on stage sitting next to the cold blooded, ice queen.

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      • Author by Lynn (June 16, 2006 11:24 am ET)
           

        I've heard that these speakers will get blocks of tickets and give them to their cheerers. I am certain that's what happened the other night. There were no boos and that was suprising, but they bring along cheerers with them. They're genrally there to drown out the boos.

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      • Author by cjp82placer652 (June 16, 2006 1:17 pm ET)
           

        My wife was in the audience on the day Coulter was there and said while waiting in line people were asking others to give up their tickets so that a group of Marines on leave from Iraq could see the show. She said that she saw these same people hand out these tickets to people who then were the ones cheering for Coulter. No marines, just more lies and and phoneyness from the worst people on the planet.

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    • Author by capiini (June 15, 2006 10:35 pm ET)
         

      Was anyone else disturbed by all the applause she got? Ignore Ann and she will go away. Stop paying attention to what she says we know what she is there is no reason to dwell on her dumb comments.

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    • Author by tex (June 15, 2006 10:45 pm ET)
         

      ... is that Liberals with any "experience" -- like going to war, or having a loved one killed by government action or inaction -- cannot be attacked.

      And she says she has now "busted open" this taboo, and Liberal "victimology" will not work any more.

      But guess what? Clelland was attacked, and he lost his race. Kerry was attacked, and he lost his race. Shehan was attacked by the Rightwing on talk radio, on the TV pundit shows, and in the Rightwing blogosphere, from the day she first spoke out.

      So, where is this TABOO against attacking these people that Ann felt needed to be overcome? The Rightwing has been attacking their foes, and denigrating their acheivements, and lying about their records, for decades (at least).

      Her entire premise is a LIE in the first place. But, of course, she DOES have to portray HERSELF as the biggest VICTIM of all, unable to respond to her political foes because they have an experience in their lives that cannot be criticized ... except, WAIT, how can Ann be a VICTIM of a supposed prohibition which has NEVER EXISTED, and never slowed down the Rightwing smear machine?

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    • Author by open_mind (June 15, 2006 11:32 pm ET)
         

      Conservative websites have been playing up the Coulter vs. Carlin angle pretty heavy. I see it was a real fizzle.

      I don't doubt that because of the web-hype (liberals watched undoubtedly to see a confrontation as well), the Tonight Show got some fantastic ratings I am sure.

      That will be their reasoning to put Ann on even more shows. And conservative gasbags will gloat about the whole thing.

      Aside: I started to do some research on Ann's statements and had to stop. It is just sweeping generalizations and caricatures. How can anyone call her "a very good writer" like Leno did? He couldn't possibly think that.

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      • Author by steeve (June 16, 2006 1:05 pm ET)
           

        for the SOLE reason that she's sold a lot of books. Sort of like how the Beatles were "really good musicians".

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        • Author by Scotty Johnson (June 16, 2006 5:22 pm ET)
             

          The Beatles were the best rock band of all time and I doubt anyone will top them. Pick a real stinker band next time, like Def Leopard.

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          • Author by open_mind (June 16, 2006 6:37 pm ET)
               

            Although he is right that the Beatles weren't technically great musicians (there are many recordings of bandmembers missed notes), McCartney and Lennon's songwriting and the overall band chemistry made up for it.

            I would think someone artificial, rip-off, no talent dirtbag like Pat Boone or Michael Bolton would be much more appropriate of an analogy. Those guys really sucked.

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    • Author by sasami (June 16, 2006 12:37 am ET)
         

      ..that anyone in the audience cheered this woman. They obviously do not know anything about her. They have never read any of her articles or seen any of her hateful comments. All they see is someone fighting against the "liberal, politically correct media" and they cheer.

      More than ever, I think people like them should just get their own country. Move them all to Florida or something. Not like being a liberal in Florida means anything in the voter records. Might as well make it an entire Republican state.

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    • Author by Kick a conservative (June 16, 2006 12:52 am ET)
         

      How can NBC be sorry for what Ann says but still book her on their show?

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      • Author by tex (June 16, 2006 2:46 am ET)
           

        Coulter is an integral part of the Rightwing "plan" of domination. Her JOB is to move the rightwing "goalpost" waaaaaay out there in fringe looney land, so that the MIDDLE can be redefined as just to her left.

        The Left might believe that we should not start wars based on lies, that we should not invade other nations without provocation, that we should not torture people, and that we should practice religious tolerance.

        Ann Coulter believes we should invade other countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity. She also believes that "Liberals" (the 70% of America who no longer support GW Bush, presumably) are "GODLESS."

        Republican policies look tame in comparison. And, true to the "plan", every position Bush and his GOP NeoCons take is presented as being "mainstream", even when the poll numbers and voting record do not support that claim.

        So, the Rightwing "mainstream" media is following the plan, and giving Ann's radical and insane "ideas" a thorough showing.

        The problem is, this plan isn't working; it is backfiring. Coulter is being seen as the SPOKESPERSON for rightwing ideas and policy, and the vast majority of people do not want insane and violent leadership in this nation. At a time when the 9/11 commission cautioned that American Unity was vital to defeating terrorism, Coulter is doing her best to DIVIDE the nation by hatred and demonization.

        The rightwing firmly believes in THE SMEAR, and Coulter is their number one MERCHANT at the moment. While at one time, they could argue, this hateful negativism WORKED politically (after all, they gained control of ALL government as a result of relentlessly attacking Clinton and all Democrats), the national mood has changed. The nation has SEEN the results of GOP totalitarian rule, and there is nothing at all to like about it. In this context ... of FAILED leadership as a reality instead of a "promise" of change, reform, and wonderful results ... the likes of Ann Coulter become a big negative for the GOP.

        It's like importing a wildcat to control your farm's rodent population, and being delighted ... until the cat has eaten your beloved dogs, all the sheep and chickens, and is starting in on your your kids. The asset turns into a solid liability.

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    • Author by Down With The Nazi Party (June 16, 2006 1:37 am ET)
         

      Ann Coulter's job is to take all the crap that Republicans are guilty of and pin it on the Democrats in order to create stereotypes. Trotting out victims that can't be attacked? Remember the good old "purple finger"? Remember when Bush read a letter from a soldier who died in Iraq during the last State of the Union? Remember the standing ovation at the State of the Union in 2005 for the parents of a marine that was killed in Iraq? These are only a few examples of the pot calling the kettle black. The difference is that the Republicans are the ones showcasing the victims to push their agenda, the Democrats are actually made up of these victims.

      As for Ann's critique on Liberalism, it's the very definition of what conservatism is today. Just subtract the words global warming, recycling, and safe sex and add intelligent design, tax cuts for the rich, NSA spying, and illegal wars (to name but a few), and you will get The Church of Conservatism.

      It's a sick job but Ann will do it.

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    • Author by fawltylogic (June 16, 2006 1:39 am ET)
         

      1) "this alleged disruption of civility is conservatives being able to talk back now through talk radio, through the Internet, through Fox News"

      But, I thought Fox News was fair and balanced! :D At least she admits that the civility in politics ended when the "conservatives" started to "talk back", as if they had not been able to say a peep before. By the way, who has seen any conservatives in the media lately? Many conservatives are very critical of Bush, and I doubt any of them like Coulter. But if she meant "right-wing pundits" I guess she's right.

      2) COULTER: I was wounded when I wrote my "Attack France" column and even liberals didn't mind that one. and COULTER: No. I'm -- to quote Dan Quayle, one of your other targets -- I wear their contempt as a badge of honor.

      Or to quote author Hjalmar Soderberg in his book "Doctor Glas" from 1905:

      "We want to be loved; failing that, admired; failing that, feared; failing that, hated and despised. At all costs we want to stir up some sort of feeling in others. Our soul abhors a vacuum. At all costs it longs for contact."

      She writes simply to be outrageous and get attention so she can sell books. What a disgrace it is that she is considered part of the political spectrum in media.

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      • Author by temphandle snowmen12dazzled (June 16, 2006 4:04 am ET)
           

        Someday shortly after the Dems take back congress I would like to see Cindy Sheehan clean Coulter's clock.

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    • Author by michael80 (June 16, 2006 6:01 am ET)
         

      Either they bussed in every Republican in California or they told the audienced to be very nice to her.

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    • Author by starwheel (June 16, 2006 7:03 am ET)
         

      Setting aside GE plugging Coulter's hatespeech (again!), Leno did a fantastic job interviewing her. Matt Lauer was milktoast compared to this.

      Check this out:

      Coulter: Men use the word broads all the the time to talk about women.

      Later in the interview:

      Coulter: Well, I travel with conservative men. They're - they're pretty fearsome.

      Says alot about conservative men, doesn't it? I can't tell you the last time I heard a man refer to a woman as a "broad". Anne hears it "all the time".

      And notice the deflection she uses? We liberals are mad because she attacks widows yet we're not mad because she called us Godless. Which she says only proves her point that we ARE godless.

      But then she accuses us of having our own religion. A religion of liberalism. A religion of liberalism suggests we do have gods or a god, it's just not HER god.

      And that is the problem with Anne and her wingnuts. Her god has no basis in the Bible unless she rejects Jesus and his teachings.

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      • Author by Lynn (June 16, 2006 11:43 am ET)
           

        read her book, but according to Ann the closest thing to a bible the Liberal's have is the US constitution. Well let me say I am a God full Christian Liberal and I own several bibles, but I thank God that the US constitution and the bill of rights exist. I think God sent angels to those hot rooms full of smart but flawed old White Dudes and they inspired them to pin these amazing documents. The ideals expressed in them are spiritual to me, even though there were and are still are times that we fall short of those ideals. But they are documented there for the ages.

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    • Author by nukeboot (June 16, 2006 8:59 am ET)
         

      Everyone expected George Carlin to get into it with Annti-christ. But it was sweet little KT Tunstall who broadsided her. Starting her song by thumping her guitar next to the "This Machine Kills Fascists" sign was brilliant (even if borrowed from Guthrie). She's my new favorite artist!

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    • Author by nerzog (June 16, 2006 9:17 am ET)
         

      This is all being orchestrated. By whom, the Troglodytes will ask? Does it matter? This is just one of many tactics being used by the Bushkovites to deflect our attention away from the slow motion train wreck in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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    • Author by drumbum (June 16, 2006 10:01 am ET)
         

      THe left uses victims so that the right can not respond? So her book and her 20 TV intervies and hundreds of radio interviews is an example of her being unable to repspond? That is how we silenced her? None of these people are being used, do you not get a voice if you have a direct connection to a story or problem? Terry Shivo was used by the right. It was not Terry speaking out it was just the one time Bush reponded quickly to anything. Ann is another good example of the right using vitims. She has ben fired from every reputable job she has had, poor Ann unable to work in the media, the right uses her for thier hate speach and to pull together the lowest common denominator of society with hate and anger. Poor Ann the victim.

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      • Author by nerzog (June 16, 2006 10:35 am ET)
           

        What makes Ann's argument so ridiculous is that, in the same breath, she will tell us that we can't criticize Puddinhead George because it will hurt the feelings of our troops...and she'll say it with a straight face.

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    • Author by rusty shackleford (June 16, 2006 10:32 am ET)
         

      What world does Coulter live in where men call women "broads" all the time? Does she live in a 1940's film noir? That could explain her warped, amoral worldview.

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    • Author by bruce1ace (June 16, 2006 11:03 am ET)
         

      I thought the consensus around here was that Coulter is so outrageous, so over the top with her rhetoric that she only hurts the conservatives at this point. So what's the problem with her being overexposed? You should consider this a blessing that she's getting all this airtime.

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      • Author by rusty shackleford (June 16, 2006 11:33 am ET)
           

        I for one do think it's great she gets all the airtime, for the reasons you state.

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      • Author by nerzog (June 16, 2006 11:38 am ET)
           

        Would seem to be mostly among the conservative posters who pat us on the head and say, "Don't pay any attention to Ann, she just makes us look bad."

        I think they said similar things about Rush Limbaugh back in the 90s.

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    • Author by guy montag (June 16, 2006 11:23 am ET)
         

      On talk radio last night someone confirmed what I'd suspected. A caller said that what probably happened is that Coulter's people REQUIRED that Coulter FOLLOW Carlin in order to knobble him. Usually Leno has a main guest followed by the comedian. By forcing Carlin to go first, they gave Carlin unrestricted face-time with Jay, so it would have been rude for Carlin to badger Coulter during her unrestricted face-time. Also, it would have been rude for Carlin to interrupt the host when he was doing an interview with a guest. I also think the audience was so supportive of Coulter because it had been packed with "Coultergeists," who wouldn't have put up with any badgering of their heroine.

      If Carlin had gone last, then Coulter would have already had her face-time with Jay, the interview would be OVER, and Coulter would be on the end--not surrounded. Carlin would also have been given time in the Green Room to come up with some really KILLER responses to what Coulter had said. But there's one big problem with this--Coulter would be too smart to STAY after her interview, but would have smoothly excused herself, so the confrontation would never have happened in that case, either.

      The big news is that it was just clever advance work on the part of Coulter's publicist or whoever. I think they just boxed Carlin in and he was probably wise not to even try to start something. As the Klingons say, "Only a fool fights in a burning house." It's the same thing with Coulter's book sales figures. Although nominally priced at $28, the book is being bought in bulk and then used as a premium or sold at a bargain price by numerous organizations, just so Coulter can bask in having a "NYT #1 Bestseller."

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      • Author by spencer (June 16, 2006 6:30 pm ET)
           

        man, these right wing PR people are good; putting Carlin on first probably was a move by Coulter's handlers; even Leno tried to get something out of Carlin, but he dropkicked some lame joke.

        Someone has to put Coulter in her place, and I was naive to think that Carlin was the man.

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      • Author by nukeboot (June 17, 2006 7:23 am ET)
           

        Usually these talk shows stack their guests based on popularity. Carlin is a much bigger star and his voice is in the top box office movie. Cars grossed $60.1 million over the weekend.

        Plus, I've seen many guests chime in from the guest couch over the years.

        I think Carlin made the decision (a wise one in this case) not to be drawn into her cess pool. She'll be a blip on the screen of history. He will go down as a legend.

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        • Author by knowlies (June 17, 2006 3:30 pm ET)
             

          I 've seen him on Real Time with Bill Maher a few times so no one can say he's afraid to debate. I honestly think he was showing politeness toward Leno as well as Coulter (despite the fact that she doesn't really deserve any). This wasn't a debate forum. He knew his place.

          Make no mistake, however. If Coulter appeard first and Carlin followed with HIS political opinions, Coulter wouldn't have stopped screeching.

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    • Author by yantubos (June 16, 2006 4:49 pm ET)
         

      I normally don't watch the Tonight Show, but I wanted to catch this one.

      I've never seen Coulter on TV before (I guess because I refuse to watch Fox 'News'). My impression of Coulter is that she is playing a character. Her voice is surreal - I don't think anyone would speak like that normally. I also don't believe she's really that crazy. She's playing a role, just like any actor would.

      It's an act designed to sell books, and nothing more. Brava!

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    • Author by Down With The Nazi Party (June 17, 2006 1:49 am ET)
         

      Leno had plenty of opportunities to rebut her crazy rhetoric but instead chose to play it wishy-washy nicey-nicey. Evidence: "I'm fiscally conservative, but I'm probably socially liberal." Probably? What does that mean? Why not probably fiscally conservative? He was trying to come across as, "you know, I'm a left leaning conservative, so please don't attack me." I know this is no debate show but it still doesn't excuse Leno from backing down and allowing Ann to go unchallenged. Leno should have taken a page out of Letterman's book and at least stood up to her once. He had the perfect chance at the end had he said something like this, "Self-righteousness? Intolerance? The refusal to countenance differing beliefs? Ann, that sounds like your amendment to ban gay marriage! Well, the book is called..."

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    • Author by katie19234 (June 17, 2006 2:17 pm ET)
         

      Does anyone have a working e-mail for NBC? When I click on the link here I get an error. I have gone to their main web site and the link there just errors out. Perhaps there are so many people sending them e-mails about their sponsorship of the hate-monger Ann Coulter that they have decided to do away with their e-mail addresses.

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    • Author by Bill from Palmdale (June 17, 2006 8:37 pm ET)
         

      While Coulter trashes liberals for putting forth people who have had tragedies in their lives, the republicans cleverly gave us their new press secretary, Tony Snow. He played the 'cancer card' right away and now the white house reporters have to be nice to him cause the 'cancer card' is right there in the background. I guess that proves Coulter point but she wouldn't admit it.

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