On Your World, for a third time, Hoenig advocates military attack to boost stock market
On Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto, Jonathan Hoenig, managing member of Capitalistpig Asset Management LLC, asserted that a pre-emptive attack on North Korea would cause "the market" to rise. "I would love to see us launch a pre-emptive attack on North Korea," Hoenig stated.
During the July 10 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto, touted by Fox News as the "No. 1 business news show on cable," Jonathan Hoenig, managing member of Capitalistpig Asset Management LLC, asserted that a pre-emptive attack on North Korea would cause "the market" to rise. "I would love to see us launch a pre-emptive attack on North Korea," Hoenig stated.
Hoenig's comments came during a discussion led by host Neil Cavuto about whether North Korea's recent actions would be a "wildcard" for investments. As Media Matters for America noted, Hoenig, a frequent guest on Your World, suggested on June 19 that the United States should attack North Korea in order to prevent a "major sell-off on Wall Street" and contended on June 5 that bombing Iran would raise the Dow Jones industrial average. Hoenig has also claimed that the U.S. economy would be unable to "thrive" if convicted September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui were not summarily executed, as Media Matters noted.
From the July 10 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto:
HOENIG: But are they a threat? I mean, I think if they are a threat to the U.S., why are we letting Japan take care of them? Why are we letting China take care of them? I mean North Korea is a threat, Neil, yes, to our market, but they're also a threat to the U.S. and to our allies. And I think the longer that we putz around with the U.N., and with negotiation, and with sanctions, I think the longer we appease them, the more we encourage them to launch these aggressive attacks.
CAVUTO: Well, Jonathan, what happens if we were to strike North Korea's nuclear-strike capability? Do what Japan wants to do on its own.
HOENIG: What happens to the --
CAVUTO: Then what?
HOENIG: Then what happens to the market?
CAVUTO: Right.
HOENIG: I think the market rises. I would love to see us launch a pre-emptive attack on North Korea.
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I mean, it must be a simple computer model, a program of direct correlation.
Plug in American Soldier's deaths over time, and deduce how many dollars that has translated to in oil company profits.
Evaluate American Soldiers maimed, dismembered and crippled for life, and figure how many bonus dollars Halliburton adds to its bottom line.
Get a figure on how many innocent Iraqi men, women, and children have been killed (liberated to death), and juxtapose that with the rising dollar value of multinational defense contractor the CARLYLE GROUP.
War is definitely good for business. If not for all the pesky body parts and flag-draped coffins, it would be a big WIN WIN for America's CEOs. On second thought, it's a big win EVEN WITH those pesky trivialities.
So, by all means, let's start ANOTHER war, another adventure into death and destruction to give another huge shot in the arm for WALL STREET.
Priorities, people.
In this present age of "War for Financial Gain" (DDE warned us of this in his Farewell Address, you'll recall), why not make stock brokers are military advisors?
I mean, they're the ones who advise us on what stocks to sell or buy; they must know what stocks will dive and what stocks will soar, as a result of any given military action.
I say yes, in the interest of "War for Financial Gain" (sorry Ike, you may have meant well, but we're too well-positioned today to take your advice), let's at least make our stock brokers our military advisors, if not our "Executive Strategists"...
ME to my BROKER: Hal, what have you got for me, anything hot? I'm about to realize a capital gain on the sale of the lakeside property; that money goes your way, if you have any growth opportunity in mind...
BROKER: Lucky you called when you did; luckier still I picked up, as busy as I am these days. But you're always at the top of the list, and always will be, buddy.
ME: I like that kind of talk Hal; what's up?
BROKER: Well, you saw on the "news" that North Korea launched a missile of some kind, right? Well, thanks for misstepping Kim; thanks for the excuse for "Executive Action"...
ME: "Executive Action"! I love that kind of talk. And by the way, aren't half of all those guys named "Kim"? How the frigg could you ever find anyone in particular in their phonebook, if they all have the same name?
BROKER: Beats me; it's all the more reason to shake them up good, I guess. And "Executive Action" is just the right thing... first we have "missile defense"; I'm on top of that. I have all the prime and sub-contractors down; every issue in "missile defense", is an issue we buy; we're in buddy, we're gonna soar on "missile defense".
ME: Thanks Kim! All two-hundred million of you. What else you got Hal?
BROKER: Well, that missile of Kim's is worth more than just "missile defense", it's worth a pre-emptive strike too, don't you think? So, we're positioned well to get in on "missile offense" too; carrier and sub-based, surface-to-surface and surface-to-air, all of it. I know all the manufacturers, we're in buddy; it's a high-ride we're gonna take...
ME: I love it! Thanks a million Kim! Thanks two-hundred million Kim, to all you Kims... hope you got a little "missile defense" yourself; and if not, I hope you're smart enough to know the prime and sub-contractors, and to get in early. What else you got for me, my financial wizard Hal?
BROKER: Well, how about an otherwise unknown strain of bacteria, engineered by the DOD, and unleashed on Cuba's sugar cane crop; how's that sound?
ME: Sounds to me like we'll clean up on the Chicago Board in sugar futures, is how it sounds to me. What else?
BROKER: A strike on Venezuela's largest oil refinery, how's that sound?
ME: Woohoo! Let's see what kind of "missile defense" those Socialists have; those dopes, so much oil money but so little arms; a strike on their largest refinery should make "Iraqi Crude" go through the roof. And we all know who owns that.
BROKER: There's more buddy. We're gonna unleash a virus on the Venezuelan people; it's gonna wreak havoc, debilitating sickness and death nationwide...
ME: Wait Hal... I'm unsure of that; death nationwide to Venezuelans? I mean, what did they ever do to us?
BROKER: It's not what they've done buddy, it's what they can do for us that counts. Do you know how high the pharmaceuticals will fly when that virus starts chewing those people up? Do know how many other industries will fly too? Never mind what they've done, it's what they can do, for our portfolio, that counts.
ME: Hal, I have to get back to you on this.
BROKER: You losing your nerve buddy?
ME: I got to get back to you Hal... later (hangs up).
[Holy Cow, is this what it comes down to? "War for Financial Gain", with stock brokers giving military advice? ...making "Executive Action" decisions? Mama mia, I don't know. I've got to think this one over; I'm not sure the "Financial Gain of War" is worth this. I'm not sure what we've gotten into here... is this what Ike meant, when he warned us about the "Military-Industrial Complex"? ...was Ike warning us about "War for Financial Gain"?]
North Korea launches a preemptive on Japan because of yesterday's japanese threats ?
nuttier than Cavuto. Well I guess it's just their way of saying that the military industrial complex has been very very good to them. Eisenhower must be rolling over in his grave
After clicking on his "bio", I noticed no mention of military service. Well there's a huge surprise. Yessuh, we've got ourselves another Chickenhawk.
Tell ya what, Hoenig, since you would love to see "us" launch a pre-emptive attack on NK (which surely have WMD's capable of inflicting thousands upon thousands of fatalities in the first days, perhaps even in the first hours), please, please, enlist, and join the front battlelines. Please?
pick this monkey boy up by ears and shake him screaming "Warmonger! Warmonger!"
The U.S. military force that would launch Hoenig's "pre-emptive attack" on North Korea--comprised of, I would guess, lots of young kids without much stake in Wall Street--used as wealth-building tool for the Hoenig's capitalistpig's clients.
Fox News: plumbing the depths of disgrace, deeper and deeper every day.
Have already died to line the pockets of Puddinhead George and his confederacy of dunces.
So the stock market rises.
Thats what this fool is basically saying.
How stupid can FOX get.
It is during those dark little moments of total brazen honesty that we see the true colors of conservative corporate America: they are a death cult. So long as it fattens their bottom lines, they LOVE death. Can't get enough of it! Just don't draft their precious little tykes into service. That would be barbaric.
... I get the sense that he's actual one of the good guys (a liberal) taking the Fox script to its next logical step. He's almost too insane to take seriously. (Note the qualifier, "almost.")
I think the name of his firm says it all.
Capitalist Pig, indeed.
This is too funny. More and more each day Fox News resembles Comedy Central. I say let'em keep talking insanity like this.
let's go ahead and launch that pre-emptive attack on North Korea, all the while completely missing the real message Kim Jong-Il was sending to America - TALK TO US!!
Let's go ahead and launch that attack, Jonathan, but under one condition, that you be the first soldier on the first wave to cross into the DMZ under heavy artillery and machine gun fire from North Korea.
What's that? You don't want to anymore? Could it be that you are an ignoramus irresponsibly shouting off at the mouth without the slighest thought of what such a position would really entail?
qualifications does this guy have to be a foreign policy analyst?
Oh, he runs an investmnet bank. We all know how much one learns about the intricacies of foreign policies at business school.
The day after NK performed missile tests, the Dow lost 76 points and oil set a record high. Hoenig is either a total moron or a lying, manipulative *ss.
It's Howdy Doody time. It's Howdy Doody time. Let's give a rousing cheer. 'Cause Howdy Doody's here!
Jonathan Hoenig is the spittin' image of my favorite puppet character when I was growing up. But the problem is he's got all of the political savvy of Phineas T. Bluster - with all the heart of Flub-A-Dub!
The right, despite the fact that they think that their religious beliefs are superior, seem to continue to follow these soulless men. I remember how my grandfather would have reffered to making money this way. He would have called it blood money. Despite the fact that we all know that these kinds of considerations go into these decisions, I don't ever remember anyone blatantly calling for war in this way so that he and his stock investing buddies can make more money. There is a special place in hell for these people. It seems surreal sometimes, almost like mass hypnosis on the part of the right.
Might I venture to suggest that those on the right who advocate war so that they might make more money are *gasp* "Godless"? (Where have I heard that before?) What are these people thinking? It's bad enough that these godless, soulless people are making money, hand over fist, off of the deaths of our brave soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's disgusting - and in my book, it's treasonous.
Further, the right wing tries to keep a strangle hold on "family values". I wonder if they know how many families they are destroying by prosecuting a war based on blood money? ANYONE, and I mean it when I say ANYONE who makes money off of this war, I don't care who you are, liberal or conservative, you're a traitor to all that this country stands for.
Even though the tide seems to be turning, I am almost as angry at the folks who have changed their minds on the war. WHAT? Didn't they think this thing through before they got all wrapped up in the propoganda (2 minutes hate) put out by this administration. I will never understand folks so willing to send other mother's sons to die for no good reason. Our soldiers blood is on their hand just as much as our president and his cronies
as irony101 said, if it was fake.
This is almost a regular segment on Cavuto, what violent adventure will move my retirement date up.
These are the self-proclaimed followers of Jesus Christ.(not the real ones, let me make that clear for Christian posters here),and they can have this discussion with a straight face.
Have your people call my people, let's do the war thing. It'll be fabulous! My stock will sooooo @#$ing go up! I'll bring the caviar. Ciao, sweetcheeks."
Remember when Congress used to DO ITS JOB?
Remember when OVERSIGHT sought to limit the corruptions of people that sought to HARM the U.S.A. by their self-serving actions?
Here's a brief history of what the Senate USED to do, looking out for WE, THE PEOPLE:
"In the twentieth century Senate committees have also taken on a greater investigative role. Among the more notable special investigations conducted by Senate committees have been oil leasing in the 1920s, securities regulation in the 1930s, WAR PROFITEERING in the 1940s, organized crime in the 1950s, the Vietnam war in the 1960s, Watergate in the 1970s, covert intelligence operations in the 1980s."
Apparently, the Congress has nothing on this list, or any other, that causes it any concern (really, since 1994). Ain't it great that we have evolved to where these areas of concern have just melted away? All we needed to do is get complete GOP control, and all these problems just aren't problems any more. Miraculous!
Don't forget the great harm inflicted upon this country by a president who lied about a hoo-ha job. Thank the good Lord our GOP was looking out for the little guy (pun intended).
...When Hitler requested temporary extraordinary powers, powers specifically banned under German law, but powers Hitler claimed he needed to have to deal with the "terrorists", the German people, having already sold their souls to their self-delusions, agreed. The temporary powers were conferred, and once conferred lasted until Germany itself was destroyed....
[link to www.whatreallyhappened.com]
The sad thing is that if you even mention some of the ideas brought up in this article you are labeled conspiracy theorist or lunatic fringe EVEN on this site.
And while I believe that 911 happened just as it appears. I also believe that the event was an opportunist dream.
When did it become loony to question authority. What is wrong with saying that "this just doesn't add up" or "something is just not right here". I grew up hearing grown ups question the "lone gunman" theory of the JFK assasination. They were not called lunatic fringe. They were thought of as thinking patriotic Americans that didn't believe everything that their government told them.
Maybe I'm preaching to the choir here but I just had to get that off my chest