Buchanan: Gay "mafia" on Hill "looked upon the pages" as their "personal preserve"
On the October 9 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country, MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan, during a discussion about the scandal surrounding former Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL), accused a number of gay staffers and lawmakers associated with the scandal -- including Kirk Fordham, former chief of staff to both Rep. Tom Reynolds (R-NY) and Foley -- of being "this little mafia in there [that] looked upon the pages, I guess, as their -- sort of their personal preserve." Buchanan added that "it stinks to high heaven what was done. And it stinks to high heaven that it was not exposed." However, as Media Matters for America has documented, Fordham has stated that he informed House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert's (R-IL) office of Foley's interaction with underage congressional pages years ago, and another congressional staffer has come forward to corroborate Fordham's account.
From the October 9 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country:
SCARBOROUGH: Pat Buchanan, now we're finding out, again, other pages coming forward, saying maybe the reason why the Republicans didn't find out is because [Rep. Jim] Kolbe [R-AZ] was keeping to himself. These pages saying, according to The Washington Post, that Kolbe offered to let them use his apartment when he left town. I mean, is it any wonder that you look at these latest polls according to Newsweek, 53 percent of Americans want the Democrats to take control of Congress, only 35 want Republicans to hold it. I mean, this is a mess.
BUCHANAN: Look, Kolbe is gay. He is an out-of-the-closet gay. Foley was gay. The House clerk who was in charge of the pages was gay. Foley's administrative assistant, Mr. Fordham, The New York Times tell us, was gay. You hear about a lot of others. What's going on here, Joe, is basically these, this little mafia in there looked upon the pages, I guess, as their -- sort of their personal preserve. And it stinks to high heaven what was done. And it stinks to high heaven that it was not exposed and these types of people, thrown out by the Republican Party --
SCARBOROUGH: OK. Wait a minute.
BUCHANAN: It is Republican leadership --
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ANA MARIE COX (Washington editor, Time.com): I think you need to be very careful about that kind of accusation.
SCARBOROUGH: Hold on a second, though, Pat. Well, but, Pat, what about the fact that Denny Hastert was told in 2003, 2004, or at least his staff was told in 2003 or 2004 that Mark Foley was behaving inappropriately? And by the way, certainly nobody suggests that Kolbe ever sent these type of IMs, just that he confronted Foley back in 2000.
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Pat, Your bigotry is getting more airtime again. Why is it so difficult to examine this issue for what it is. And what it is not is a gay issue, at all.
Even if the other people were involved, as long as they were of legal consenting age, there is no issue. What they do in their private lives is nobody's business, provided they weren't breaking any laws.
Stick to the facts on Foley himself, expose the cover up of his predatory acts if in fact it exists, and leave the "gay" bigotry to yourself, Pat.
Well said tommy
Black or gay, they make good fall guys.
Duhhbya had his fall guy in Powell, the House leaderschit have their gays.
Probably why they tolerated so many of them in their midst all these years.
Wait what's that you say? you really believe that?
Wow.
Funny how in nature there are documented cases of animals exhibiting homosexuality.. but let's ignore these little things. I guess these animals have a "wierd" state of mind. Maybe these animals chose to be that way? Cause it definately couldn't have come naturally to them. These animals must be clearly evil eh?
Trust you? What about the Senator who went after the 17 year old page and slept with her. Yeah man, I totally see your point, this is clearly a result of "teh gay infection".
animals are animals not humans, that means homos are behaving like animals. Thats pretty clear, thanks for sharing that information; it just corroborates what we have been saying that this type of lifestyle or behavior is not normal.
Animals eat, poop, pee, and a few even have (heterosexual) sex for pleasure. What they DON'T do, is troll on the internet.
Seems someone amongst us is doing things even animals won't do.
I'm confused. Some animals can be observed "making the homosexual choice", and you use that as "PROOF" that such behavior is animalistic and thus "abnormal" for humans.
Can you explain how animals, who frequently indulge in HETEROSEXUAL SEX, do not confer the same "like an animal" stigma onto heterosexual humans?
I mean, if your comment is to make any sense, it must be seen as logical. So break the confusion ... what DO you mean? (I suspect you just gay bash from anonymous shelter for grins and giggles, because you were "trained" to do so having grown up in an environment of bigotry, intolerance, and hatred. Sad for you, really.)
thedevilsadvocate: "Funny how in nature there are documented cases of animals exhibiting homosexuality.. but let's ignore these little things. I guess these animals have a "wierd" state of mind."
s_lamante6877: "animals are animals not humans, that means homos are behaving like animals. Thats pretty clear, thanks for sharing that information; it just corroborates what we have been saying that this type of lifestyle or behavior is not normal."
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You know, heterosexuality is found in nature, too, so I guess that means everybody is acting like an animal, huh?
"You and me, baby, ain't nothin' but mammals..."
That like Pat you are a bigot. Nothing else. Of course gay Congressmen can function well.
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In his freshman year in Congress, he was voted the outstanding freshman in a survey conducted by Public Television, and a recent evaluation of Congress, The Almanac of American Politics, described Frank as "one of the intellectual and political leaders of the Democratic Party in the House, a political theorist and pit bull at the same time." Politics in America noted "Frank's penchant for trying to match liberalism with hard nosed pragmatism in order to move the legislative ball."
In 2004, a survey of Capitol Hill staffers published in Washingtonian magazine gave Frank the title of the most intelligent member of the House of Representatives.
The only thing you have proven is that you are a bigot and that you dont know what you are talking about.
>>"well i think we need to connect the dots"<<
Yes, well, your "dots" form a sad, narrow-minded, intolerant homophobe.
You mean, I've been faking it all these years? Working in the internet, bourbon and insurance industries? Jeez, too bad we don't have pages there!
Jesus H. Chrysler, you're an idiot.
Please, show me just one objective study that proves pedophiles (i.e. lovers of children) are also gay (i.e. same sex lovers). Please, just one. Be prepared, for once you do come up with your one remotely misleading, questionable study, I'm going to bombard you with thousands of studies showing that most pedophiles are conservative. Have fun...
You are the most ignorant human being that has ever posted to this site.
Well done!
That is a very bizarre post. Was it inspired by a crack binge?
I wasn't sure before, but now I'm convinced. You're a comedian trying out new material here, right? Let me guess -- you get on stage and explain that because of some time warp you've travelled from 1906 to 2006, and boy have things changed, right?
This one was especially funny:
I have proof that gays are not welcomed in many positions especially dealing with human services and family issues because what can they say or do? They cause ruptures, problems, conflicts, confusion to families...
This same argument has been used to justify keeping racial minorities and women out of professional and political public life. Brilliant, 1900s-Man!
Since being gay is a weird state of mind it causes for the individual to become depressed, isolated, and often suicidal and Foley allowed his emotions and evil perverted gay feelings to act as he did.
That one was a little less funny than menacing. You might want to work on your material a bit more before you try it out in public. See, the problem is that the logic of the joke doesn't even make sense. By this reasoning, anyone who could be described as "weird"--say, for instance, religious, ethnic, and racial minorities--would be subject to the same psychological stress, and would thus be unqualified. Come to think of it, who couldn't be described as "weird"?
If he wasnt gay trust me, he wouldnt have fallen into this.</>
You speak from personal experience, huh?
The Gay Mafia??
Does that mean when a Republican Congressman "makes an offer you can't refuse" actually means they get on their knees to make such offers?
A "Jeff Gannon-Moment" brought to you by the Neo-Con Homophobes in charge of the Gay Mafia!
Explains alot, don't you think.
funny post.
Just reprehensible. In 2006, anyone equating homosexuality with pedophilia is an uneducated boob. So, is anyone suprised Buchanan said this?
Surely not.
is a gay man. I asked Mr. Gannon and this legend has confirmed that Mr. Buchanan is gay. Upon hearing this, the entire gay community was saddened. But, unlike Mr. Buchanan, he is accepted because he is a person first and foremost. Concerning LAMANTE6877, sorry, no one can accept non-thinkers. And that includes me. Trash is written and then discarded--your words in the post above will now just be LETTER POOP and flushed away.
You have the distinction of making the most ignorant post ever on this site. You should be congratulated. It must really be very painful to be so stupid and intolerant that you can't understand the facts.
Let me try this one more time. This is not a gay issue. This is amount a congressman who could not control his desires to do nasty things to children. Which for your information there are a lot more heterosexuals who do this than gay people, but that is another of those facts that you seemed to be ignorant of.
"Wow there is a bold statement."
Especially that the Righties have polling numbers so low it would be hard to limbo under them.
The truth is that if the you and "the majority" of Americans are Republicans. Then you share in the responsibility of putting a sexual predator in office and the people who protected him. Why, because you would have voted for whoever the Right would have told you to and they would have said Foley, until a couple weeks ago.
Congrats. The truth hurts don't it. Now shut your pie hole. You giving "more thoughtful" bigots, by which I mean Pat Buchanan, a bad name and that is really saying something.
S Lamante, other than your obvious ignorance and hate, is that you have never spoken the truth on this site. All you have done is spout a bunch of ridiculous far right wing talking point with no proof whatsoever. We here are living pain free from your stupid allegations, since they have all been shown to be false.
Pat needs to realize that Archie Bunker is just a character. On a serious note has anyone eslt noted the conservative push to say the Homosexuals are only 2-3% of the pop. and are ruining everything? thats kind of a concern. It goes bakc to the conservative desire to blame gays, illegals and everyone else for the problems of the U.S. Also I don't think the Foley scadal is a Pediphilla case, im not an expert on the DSM, but would it not exclude teens that have gone through puberty? I think peds are attracted to pre-pubesent children.
someday maybe i will learn to spell, probably a homosexual made me a spell poorly.
S_Lamante, I'm sure if you Google "faggies" or "inexcusable ignorance" you will find websites more suited to your intelligence level, and people with the same lackluster fact-checking skills. See you at the polls, buddy. 2008 is for us this time.
Its time to take the country back from all evil people like you all. Because of you all we have diseases (you know that the AIDS virus started with gay males and it has been a disease of the gay community).
Do you really want to get into this? Look, I'd be happy to refer you to the body of research in medical anthropology, epidemiology and biology that contradicts you, but we both know you wouldn't read it. (Just for the sake of argument, though, try these: Anne-Mieke Vandamme et al. "Tracing the origin and history of the HIV-2 epidemic" PNAS, Vol. 100, No. 11, 27 May 2003; AVERT: The Origin of HIV and the First Cases of AIDS
If you're here to provoke people and have a laugh, that's fine with me. But at least be interesting about it. Cite something. Make an argument. Until you do, your act is getting really stale, really fast.
Just ignore him, he's looking to get a rise out of you.
Quite honestly the first time I've ever seen a troll come up with God creating the Great Flood and pointing to it as God's displeasure with homosexuals.
That's some rich stuff right there.
I always laugh at conservative butt-puppets that run they're mouths talking like tough guys. ridding the earth of evil, has anyone noticed that most conservatives like, Bortz, Beck, Hannity and the s lamente guy are wussies that you would never ever want backing you up, but talk like they are the biggest bad-asses on the planet.
I not complainin but I found it hillarious his earthquake in San Fransisco analogy. Is this guy an idiot or just brainwashed????
Since they are not mutually exclusive
When did this BIBLE THUMPER TROLL get here? Man he makes AA, EVILLIB, and Leatherface seem almost normal...lol
Maybe its Micheal Savage without a spell checker or an editor for his grammer.
hopefully he will go back to where he belongs; freerepublic(a.k.a. IDIOT CHRISTIAN FASCIST.ORG)