Savage claimed Dem win in midterms "could lead to the breakup of the United States of America"
On the October 13 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, The Savage Nation, Michael Savage claimed that a victory by the Democratic Party in the November midterm elections "could lead to the breakup of the United States of America, the way the Soviet Union broke up." Savage warned of the threat of Democrats regaining control of Congress while discussing the threat of immigration to the makeup of the United States, asserting that there is only "a melting pot possibility" for immigrants from Europe and that "[w]hen you start bringing in masses of immigrants from everywhere on Earth, you don't have a melting pot; they cannot be melted into an American, and that's what's going on in the country today." Savage added, "Democrats want people to vote that aren't even citizens, because they're not counting on an America that speaks English in the near future."
Later in the broadcast, while discussing California Democratic Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, Savage stated: "California, unfortunately, is in the hands of the far-left homosexual mafia. They unfortunately don't even understand what's good for them." Savage added that "if the gay community ever understood what was in their interest, they'd become conservatives," but "they are also very confused, as anyone could figure out by their death-style." As Media Matters for America has documented (here, here, and here), Savage has previously referred to "the homosexual mafia" and "the homosexual death-style."
According to Talkers magazine, The Savage Nation reaches more than 8 million listeners a week, making it the talk radio show with the third largest U.S. audience, behind only The Rush Limbaugh Show and the Sean Hannity Show.
From the October 13 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:
SAVAGE: The difference, of course, is that -- and this is a huge difference, and it's hard for me to not explain it to you, but I'm sure you figured it out by now -- is that when you bring immigrants in from Europe -- whether they be Irish, whether they be Italian, whether they be English, whether they be Romanian, whether they be Czechoslovakian, whether they be Italian, whether they be Yugoslavian, whether they be German -- they're from Europe, and there is a melting pot possibility.
When you start bringing in masses of immigrants from everywhere on Earth, you don't have a melting pot; they cannot be melted into an American, and that's what's going on in the country today. We're bringing in millions of people from countries that have no compatibility with the values of Europe, not any values whatsoever. And I will argue with you as long as you want on this, if you want. There was no history of the liberation of people in China for example, to choose one nation, there was no Magna Carta, there was no evolution. There's been no Middle Ages for the Muslims coming into America.
It's insanity to be bringing in millions of people who have no Middle Ages yet, they haven't even gone through the Middle Ages. They're never going to be compatible with America. They're never going to assimilate. This is the biggest disaster in the history of this country, is to say that all people from around the world are the same; ipso facto, bring in anybody and they're all going to become an American within two generations. That's absurd. But they know that. They don't want them to become assimilated. What they want is a balkanization of America where one group is pitted against another perennially. And the ruling class also wants an illiterate America who does not fully understand what they're doing to this country. That's why they are bringing people that will never assimilate. They don't even require that they speak English.
That's why the Democrats want people to be able to vote without any ID whatsoever. That's why the Democrats want people to vote who aren't even citizens, because they're not counting on an America that speaks English in the near future. They're not counting on an America that has a citizenship requirement in the near future. My fear is that if the Democrats win, and I'm afraid that they might, you're going to see America melt down faster that you could ever imagine.
It will happen overnight, and it could lead to the breakup of the United States of America, the way the Soviet Union broke up. Because I want to remind you that if I had asked anyone listening to this show -- whether in 1980 they could've ever believed the ex-Soviet Union could have ever broken up into parts, you would've said impossible. Too powerful, too centrally controlled -- it'll never happen. This country could wind up breaking up if the Democrats take over this country and start hammering the American middle class. The country could break up at the foreparts. I'm absolutely positive this could happen.
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SAVAGE: Well, Dianne Feinstein is an icon here in the Sick Bay area. They have no idea what her policies are, because she's a mystery woman. Dianne Feinstein is a mystery woman, and nobody knows what she stands for. Barbara Boxer is not a mystery woman. She stands for anything that the socialist party would stand for. Barbara Boxer is a dyed-in-the-wool, 1930s Wobbly from New York. California, unfortunately, is in the hands of the far-left homosexual mafia. They unfortunately don't even understand what's good for them. They don't understand that voting on the left side of everything is actually in their disinterest, not in their interest -- that if they gay community ever understood what's in their interest they'd become conservatives, by and large. But they are also very confused, as anyone could figure out by their death-style.
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SAVAGE: But the homosexuals don't simply go to bars and have sex with each other. They are amongst the most politically active groups, if not the most politically active group or subgroup, in the population. They are extremely militant in their demands. They are extremely demanding as the school -- that the school curriculums change. They are extremely demanding in their attacks on the church. I mean, let's not turn this into something that it isn't. Now, you got people in the church who are standing up and saying, "Hell, no, we won't go."
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This guy is a worthless schmuck. It's important for MMFA to document his lies (what he considers a 'jones'... please!) Beyond that, it's like debating with a two year old... This guy needs a permanent time-out.
I agree with something he said. I lived in the Bay Area when Feinstein voted for the Iraq war resolution and castigated her for it, only to receive the canned "I'm on the Senate Intel Cmte and know more than you." Does anyone know what she stands for besides war profiteering?
But still, the homosexual mafia controlling California? That is up there with the all-time dumbest, most bigoted things ever said. I am so glad he speaks for Republicans.
Certifiable.
I think this kind of trash talk just feeds the mindset who relish calamity.
This guy does nothing to service unity, nothing to inspire hope and kinship, nothing to inspire reasons to assimilate. If anything, his message is the message of division and doomsday, an endless tirade of hopelessness and despair.
8 million listeners?
sad.
Still, enough to screw in a lighttbulb given enough directions from their fuhrer...
A vicious right wing bigot, denies his heritage and wants to spoil America with hate.
I was listening when used the word "vermin" to describe undocumented workers. He unconsciously (or consciously- even scarier) mimics the Nazis who killed his people.
"Talking" says that 8 million + listen to his drivel weekly, I find that so hard to believe.
I long for the time of the fairness doctrine which demanded equal time for political speech, and I wonder what can be done about the enormous amounts of money that goes to spewing this hate speech to the political advantage of the wealthy.
His pattern of using the word "vermin" to describe various ethnic groups is obviously a conscious echo of the language once used to dehumanize his own people.
Why do you feel he denies it?
Yes we do need it again. See this link to see why: [link to www.nytimes.com]
And, my name is Peat... I love that. I prefer Soyon, but what can you do?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Soviet Union broke up because a combination of Communisim and Cold War military spending (the levels of which the US is STILL at).
But maybe he's right, mabye gay marriage broke up the USSR.
Actually it was because of a corrupt central government, a failed war, and ethnic seperatism. So the US is only batting 2 for 3.
Why is this piece of garbages hate speech tolerated to be on the public airwaves? When will a call to boycott his advertisers be taken?
The man's overwhelming understanding of humanity has shown me that I'm truly a conservative.
it' worth considering.
We conservatives would continue to call our half the USA
Fatty Bob and the rest of you lefties can name your half the USSA (Union of Soviet Socialist America)
Better yet. You can have the South and call it "The Confederate States of America". You'd already have a pre-made flag. Then, you can reinstitute slavery. After all, racists are your base. Why not just come out and embrace the true root of the Republican party? White racists.
....because if I can't have it my way I don't want it. Do you think enlightened people like being surrounded by sheep like you? You're the sorry kind of excuse for an American that has turned this country into CRAP.
>>"the breakup of the United States of America"<<
... for the past six years of the Bush presidency?
That LIEberal agenda gets even tougher to fight against when there's a Republican in office! The gay mafia must be working overtime...
I am really not sure I can share a country with this evil bastard. Look at him, he can't even smile.
Dr. Weiner has outdone himself once again.
One thing is for sure. He's doing his best to bring about the dissolution of this country.
If you had asked me in 1980 whether I thought that this country would have lunatics with national audiences, I'd have said no.
Savage claimed Dem win in midterms "could lead to the breakup of the United States of America"
I say, Bring It On.
Of course, by that I mean a Dem win, not the silly notion that it will bring about the "breakup of the United States"
In Savage's latest rant he claimed that a victory by the Democratic Party in the November midterm elections could lead to the breakup of the United States.
What he actually meant to say was that if Republicans maintain majorities in both houses, it will lead to a further break-up of the United States.
We're sorry for the confusion.
I guess writing books called "Plant a Tree, New York : Collier Books, 1975" doesnt sell to well. I can't believe this guy has a PhD in botany.
what a crock...
I'm convinced that if there was more money in playing a Liberal talking head, tools like Savage, Hannity, Man Coulter, and Bill O'Really would switch teams in a minute.
LOLOLOLOL.... whatever appeases you.......
The First North American Secessionist Convention will be held in Burlington, Vermont this fall. Delegates from the Second Vermont Republic, the Hawaiian and Alaskan independence movements, the League of the South, the New State Movement, and others will be there.
No Democrats will attend.
wierd....
We did it in 1776, remember? That was secession. Secession from the Crown. We glorify that secession, and it was caused by many of the things DC is doing today. Hawaii was a sovereign nation conquered by the US, forced into the Union against it's will. Many states could become very viable countries on their own, with populations and economies similar to the smaller European nations. Considering the criminality of the DC establishment and the two federal mafias that participate in that criminality, secession is not an unattractive option.
and spreading his ignorance and disinformation through his different name SOION. This weirdo is in need of lots of help and an education.
Homophobe bigot rightwing "religious" nuts, bashing gays and clumsily stealing liberal screennames, promoting wild conspiracy theories of hatred and paranoia.
Savage claiming it's the END OF THE WORLD as we know it if Liberals have their way.
I love the smell of DESPERATION in the morning!
Overall Savage has a good show. He's a quick wit, he's entertaining, and he has a point. You can have fun picking out one of his rants and then denouncing him, but there is more to his show.
This site uses similiar invective and over the top comments as Savage. There is a message behind the bluster. I don't find MMFA's message very appealing.
But, before you go; what, exactly, is Savage's "message"?
Uhm, Savage's message? How about: Democrat policies will not be good for the country.
While I agree a country ran strictly on Democrat policies will not be good for the country, I do believe in a fair balance. The same would hold true for Republican Policies, as we are seeing now.
Between I think we should kill One Hundred Million Muslims and listing those people who are vermin and scumbags.
"Solon, I want you to kill 100 million muslims....."
Yeah, right............
100 million Muslims. He said he was tired of hearing that there were one billion Muslims in the world and he thinks we should kill one hundred million of them. It was covered on this site. Its not my fault if once again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I was playin around. Take a joke once in while, jeeeezzeeee!
Really Solon, I was just playing with ya. Twisting words is what is so often done when you can not talk face to face with a person. When you just hear tid-bits and such. He said it like that, but did he really mean that? I doubt it. Would he like to see every terrorist wiped off planet earth no matter the cost? Could be.
In your every post. Since I dont have your amazing mind reading powers, I wont speculate on what he MEANT. I will limit myself to the obvious insanity of what he SAID. Keep up the pathetic appologies for the mans inherent insanity. It is so amusing to read the, we dont pay attention to what our propaganda parrot masters said, we only KNOW what they meant tactic. Apparantly it is usually quite different from what they SAID. I mean the excersise is pointless but amusing.
Ease up freind, I can see your blood pressure rising for every character you type.
I dont know why you guys think I have any emotional investment whatsoever in all this. I just amuse myself. I have to admit I misread your post. I thought you were citing what I said as pathetic. My mistake. I thought I was just responding in kind when I was ratcheting up the hostility. For that I appologize. The bottom line here is Weiner is insane. His rhetoric is violent and demeaning and if I were a rightwinger (small shudder there) I would hate that anyone associated his twisted diatribes with my side.
Equal rights for all Americans. Freedom from oppression. Freedom of/from religion.
If you think these are Conservative values, consider the rights of homosexuals to marry. Consider warrantless wiretaps and consider the influence of Focus on the Family.
NOT individual posters, and not what their second cousins may have said at a party 30 years ago, but MMFA itself has ever used anything even close to the pure hatred Whiner spews out every day?
If the Democrats win maybe Savage will leave. I know... wishful thinking.
He will break up and cry because his hero George W. Bush is being investigated by congressional Democrats with subpoena power and oversight authority. I'd love to see him go ballistic on the air on his lame and boring joke called a radio show.
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the only message i've ever noticed, and i've listened to some of his show, is that he pretty much hates everyone who isn't him. wish i could get paid for that.
any bets that mikey is a closet queen?
if it means texas leaves the union, i'm all for the breakup. otherwise, how much would it cost to get them to secede again?
That's why the Democrats (And Repubs?) want people to vote who aren't even citizens......
That I have to agree with. It seems that way to me being the Dems famous words,
" Living in the shadows" "Jobs American Won't do"
LOLOLOLOL...... Biggest scam next to Iraq!
FIRE CONGRESS!
Is a Conservative line.
"On the other hand, a temporary worker program would take pressure off our border. When you match willing worker with willing employer on a job Americans won't do, with a tamper-proof card that says, I'm here legally for a temporary basis, it means our border patrol agents won't have to chase people coming here illegally to work, they'll be able to chase criminals and drug traffickers and crooks." George W. Bush
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Really? That is full of rotten b.s. to think it is a Conservative thang....... For one, GWB is far from Conservative. So, forget pulling him into this for that reason. 2, just about all those sloppy money waisting puttin heads in congress all are guilty of saying those two lines. However, most people I talk to feel differently.
Repubs, "Worker Program" - filthy slave drivers... Cons, " kick them all out! " - now that would not be fair.. Dems, " grant amnesty! " - you gotta be kidding.... Libs," All Man is created equal"... - ahh, this is the real world..
There are two running here locally. The Dem said, "Jobs Americans Wont do"....
The Repub said, " We need a guest worker program"....
So yeah, ok.... I SAY FIRE THEM ALL!
Is a Conservative alright. From his tax cuts for the wealthy to his war of aggression to his environmental deregulations. His failures are Conservative failures. Conservatives don't believe that government can be effective, so how can Conservatives be expected to govern?
Anyway, long time no speak, EVILLIB. How ya been?
Far from......
if not a conservative?
This administration is not what I associate with traditional conservativism. More like radical statists. The expansion of executive power for instance is traditionally a conservative boogeyman.This is why the term neocon was coined to differentiate them from the Paleocons like William F Buckley who has for a while been critical of this administration.I think this administation sullies the good name of conservativism. I remember when there were conservatives like John Danforth. I almost never agreed with him but he was consistant, honest and sincere. Conservatives like him or Buckley might be frustrating but they werent outright liars and charlatans like this administration.
I believe in political dialectic. We disagree. We state our cases, a policy evolves that might not be everything we want but in fact might be better in practice for taking the best of both sides and leaving the weaknesses inherent in both positions. That isnt happening. This administation just lies about virtually everything to get their way. Bush cant get something through Congress he just signs an executive order whether or NOT he has the authority. A law passes he doesnt like he just signs it saying he wont abide by it. Dont like fourth amendment limitations this administration just pretends he has the authority to ignore it. That isnt conservative, the con philosophy traditionally respected the rule of law. That is radical and statist, claiming new power for the executive and federal institutions.
I'm in agreement with you, SOLON. I was inciting EVILLIB in hopes that he would counter my claims with a discussion of the caliber you just demonstrated. It gives me hope to see conservative minded people like EL express themselves with equinimity.
I am just not that good with expressing my thoughts in writting. I grew up a musician, not a student. You could call me, A Late Bloomer.....
I do not have a vocabulary or history anywhere near the caliber as many that post here.
Now, I can learn 10 songs in a weeks time after work hours..... I do have good memory retention! And crappy spelling.
Cheers.....
Don't sell yourself short, man. Music is a vocabulary, a history and an academic pursuit all rolled in one. Maybe the trick is to treat musical literacy as a metaphor for political discourse.
Jam on!
ps. Despite the jeers you receive for spelling, most everyone knows that one's ability to spell has little to do with one's ability to reason.
For the kind compliments!
:0)
I do not care to change the curriculum, yes it bothers me. Guess I am a bit old-fashioned.
I have a few points to make.
1.) The only states to try to break up the US were conservative southern states. Yes, Democrats, but they were conservatives.
2.) The hate speach by types like Savage, Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly are dividing us. It irritates me to no avail when people assign motives or ignorance to other people's oppinions rather than discuss the actual opinions.
3.) This is a great example of self projection. The conservative pundits always talk about how the Democrats try to scare the voters into voting for them. Or that Democrats want nothing good for the country, just power.
4.) The Declaration of Independence states, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. " I stress the ALL MEN, as in all of MAN. Yet, conservatives are fine with treating non-US citizens differently.
You mean, Illegal Aliens?
How would you treat them, be precise because the, "All men created equal crap does not apply IMO".....
Means less to me than the Constitution. The Constitution is clear on this subject. Except for voting ,rights are not exclusive to citizens. The constitution specifically and constantly uses the term PERSONS, not citizens when referring to rights. Of course not all non citizens are illegal aliens. Anyone NOT a bigot knows that.
keep giving your money away Solon..............
Keep being a bigot EL
Naw, that is why I am liked........ who does not like a goooooffffy big idiot? Now a bigot? Do you have a mental disorder? :0)
By rational standards its known as higher brain function.
I hear ya.
The USA should break up. First, gather all of his listeners, and all those who listen to Limbaugh and Hannity and O'Reilly, put them in a square state out west, build a fence around it, pipe in continuous right wing talk radio to placate the hell hounds therein, and sell tickets to watch them froth and turn red over anything they perceive as liberal.
Call it Ronald Reagan Land. They'll like that. And if they complain about a lack of privacy, with 24 hour surveillance cameras on every street corner and in every home, tell them it's for their own protection, so the terrorists don't get them. If they still complain, ask them to point out the right to privacy Amendment, which will stop their blather immediately. (BTW: there is such an Amendment, but right wingers just don't realize it. Here's a hint. It's the one right after the 8th and before the 10th.)
But why does Liberal SF want to remove handguns from protperty owners and such......
Which "well-regulated militia" do you belong to again?
Honestly Scott, I do not even own a gun, other than my paintball gun. I prefer Medieval-Weaponry...... However, I would not mind owning a couple M-1's.....
Better joing a well-regulated militia then.
I would prefer to join a clan much like those in the 11th century where fighting with a sword is the standard.... Gosh,,,,, I guess I have somehting in common with those crazy throat slitting terrorists.....
Take my gun, but my sword???? At the cost of your life!
And bare their arms. As for bearing arms the Miller decision makes abundantly clear the right to bear arms is not an absolute right and the Supreme Court let stand a 7th district Court of appeals decision that allowed Morton Grove Ill. to ban handguns within its borders.
[link to www.aclu.org]
The 1939 case U.S. v. Miller is the only modern case in which the Supreme Court has addressed this issue. A unanimous Court ruled that the Second Amendment must be interpreted as intending to guarantee the states' rights to maintain and train a militia. "In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a shotgun having a barrel of less than 18 inches in length at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument," the Court said.
In subsequent years, the Court has refused to address the issue. It routinely denies cert. to almost all Second Amendment cases. In 1983, for example, it let stand a 7th Circuit decision upholding an ordinance in Morton Grove, Illinois, which banned possession of handguns within its borders. The case, Quilici v. Morton Grove 695 F.2d 261 (7th Cir. 1982), cert. denied 464 U.S. 863 (1983), is considered by many to be the most important modern gun control case.
As liberal as I am, for the most part I am with the right on the right to own firearms issues. The way I see it as long as the majority of Americans see it as a freedom issue, Americans should be allowed to own guns. That is not an absolute and limitless right. Cities can democratically limit it. I also support common sense restrictions, I dont think everyone has a right to a bazooka. The limits are in my eyes to be arrived at in democratic fassion
San Fransisco has a right to democratically decide this issue.
Notice the second amendment says, a well regulated Militia being necessary, there are no such qualifiers to the right to free speech, free press, petition or assembly. Obviously the framers didnt see this right to be as unlimited in scope as those larger ones or they just would have added it to the first amendment.
Democrats and liberals are such morons
With the fact if you actually DID think it would be the first time. I dont think you have the equipment. You chose the moron party. YOU guys chose Gump to be your presidential candidate. You guys wouldnt know reality if it spit in your face. When you reach the capacity for higher brain function get back to us, until then try to go play nice with the other special children
I do, and I see you over there with your crayon, solon.
Art was never my strong point. On a good day my circles are kind of round. Also my color sense is attrocious.
Excellent summary.
Too typical, Fantagor. Your pathetic ideas can't stand up in the marketplace of ideas, so get rid of the competition. Good luck with that.
The GOP is so good at arguing in the arena of ideas. That is why they LIE constantly, where are those WMDs again? And hire groups like the Swift Boat Liars for Rent to carry their water with baseless personal attacks. Coulter, Savage and the rest are so good with ideas that their entire tactic is ad hominems, strawmen, and false dichotomies. You guys dont even RECOGNIZE the arena of ideas. You live in the fantasy world of Planet Wingnut
"{I}f the Democrats win...it could lead to the breakup of the United States of America, the way the Soviet Union broke up."
So, am I crazy, or is Weiner comparing the Republican Party to the Communists? I mean, talk about heresy!!! ;-)
And all this time, I've been calling them Fascists. They really see themselves as Stalinists.