On MSNBC's Tucker, radio host Michael Graham suggested only some Dems are "for God"
On the November 27 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, Boston radio host Michael Graham discussed whether Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R), a Mormon, could win over evangelical voters in a Republican presidential primary. Graham asserted that Romney's religion was acceptable because "the line here is for God and against God. And anybody who is on God's team, with the possible exception of Islam right now ... will be welcomed by Southern Republican voters." Graham pointed to Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, who is Jewish, as an example of someone who "is wildly popular ... probably the most popular Democrat among Southern Republicans." In implying that Lieberman is "on God's team" and "for God," Graham suggested that other Democrats might be "against God." Host Tucker Carlson responded: "That is, I think, a really smart point about Joe Lieberman."
Further, while Graham suggested that Islam is excluded from "God's team," he did not discuss his own previously expressed hostility toward Islam. As The Washington Post reported, Washington, D.C., radio station WMAL-AM fired Graham on August 22, 2005, because, "[a]ccording to WMAL, Graham said 'Islam is a terrorist organization' 23 times on his July 25 program" and added that "the problem is not extremism. The problem is Islam." The Post reported that Graham said of his remarks on Islam: "I will not apologize for something that is true."
From the November 27 edition of MSNBC's Tucker:
CARLSON: Wait a second, you have to get past, as you just said, you have to get past all those South Carolina primary voters in the Republican primary. I didn't go to Oral Roberts [University], but last time I checked, evangelicals considered Mormonism not a species of Christianity, but a cult. They don't like it at all. That's not a problem?
GRAHAM: And the last time I checked, evangelicals didn't consider Judaism a form of Christianity either, and yet Joe Lieberman is wildly popular --
CARLSON: Very good point.
GRAHAM: -- and is probably the most popular Democrat among Southern Republicans. In the modern era, it is not one religion versus another. In the modern era, where the media is anti-religious, where people feel like Christmas itself is under assault, and where anytime someone of faith stands up, they're called rubes and rednecks and idiots and Christianists -- the line here is for God and against God. And anybody who's on God's team, with the possible exception of Islam right now, everybody is on -- that's on the God team will be welcomed by Southern Republican voters.
CARLSON: That is, I think, a really smart point about Joe Lieberman. Michael Graham, thank you very much.
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How is Christmas under assault??!! Last time I checked, the holiday goes off without a hitch every year... In fact, it's corporate commercialism that truly denegrates the meaning of Chistmas by pushing rampant consumerism over all else! But, ah, I guess we don't like to talk about that.
These people are nutz.
This is the foundation of fascism, if you ask me. These guys... this jerk Graham in particular... is basically saying, you practice religion how we like it or we're going to shun you -- you're on their side.
I wish, just once, someone could say "HEY! Wait a minute here... 'freedom of religion' was a founding tenet of our country....how can you say you're with us or against us??" What does that even mean?? More rabble rousing for the religious rightwing base. Painful.
don't get your pointy tail all twisted up. Maybe you're stamping your hooves because you realize that in this "fer us or agin' us" world, there's Christ and Anti-Christ, and no grey areas.
Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a war on Xmas to fight.
...but, I prefer "Holiday Spirit War"... I find that's more accessible to all heathens ;-)
of the real god squad. as stupid as these people seem, put enough of them together, and you have other people forced to participate in their beliefs. they don't want just to be free to practice their religion, they want to give you no choice in what you do. he's no better than those muslims he attacks. fortunately for us, we have resisted a overtly religious goverment. and for all his claims about southerners, i was happy to see that republicans in alabama refused to give the nomination for governor to judge roy moore, the guy that put the ten commandments monument in his courthouse, and then defied a federal court that said remove it.
Whose side God is on? Who will determine what God's will is? The various Christian sects can't even agree on which myths to believe! Jesus H. Christ, these people are IDIOTS!
why do you hate the baby Jesus?
Last Supper Place Mats, personally signed by Jesus H. Christ.
Can anyone tell me if there are any Universalist spokespersons ever brought on any of these shows? If not I think it would be a good thing if one came forward as a counterweight to conservative Christians. Is this a reasonable wish? Or something from a fantasy world that is unachievable?
Universalists don't care to be divisive and they're typically pretty laid back people. I don't see them being brought in for the shouting matches that are cable news.
I am an amazing typist.
... think he's a quarterback for God's "TEAM", or maybe a cheerleader? More likely, he fancies himself God's recruiting scout, scouring the countryside for those "GODLY" people who can be on the TEAM, while all others remain damned for all eternity.
By the way, discussing politicians in terms of their GODLINESS is obscene. It's what defines such theocracies as Iran, and it's entirely an unfit topic in a country that supposedly prides itself on FREEDOM of religion. Designating who in government is "on the TEAM" ... while all others by default are EVIL ... is as hateful and divisive a practice as can be imagined.
Somewhere in the cosmos, God is rolling his eyes and slapping his head.
You said it better. Obscene is right!
What a bunch of crap. God is beyond such concepts as teams. God is beyond winning and losing. I would like to think God is more in favor of us loving and respecting each other instead of choosing sides like a pick up game.
But no. To Graham and his ilk it's us or them. Or you're either with us or against us.
Count me as against "them" whatever they profess to be.
what?
You know, a professional actor who has the ability to say absurd things that no sane person would accept could make political/economic/etc statements in a forceful way and likely get his or her own radio/tv show.
It's these "News" shows that give such dopes a platform. Just remember, the only reason people like this moron are on the air is to sell stuff. If the sponsors thought it would work they would likely have him dress in a chicken suit and roll around on the ground (which, come to think of it, he is more likely qualified to do than comment on the news).
Why wasn't Richard Dawkins on all the shows while his book has been in the top 5 on Amazon the last month?
He was on Colbert and that's it.
Mormonism is generally acceptable to christian conservative Southern republican voters, then he doesn't know very many Southern christian conservatives.
Who are for the Almighty Buck and power.
Without them, how could Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and James Dobson have possibly gotten so rich and powerful?
but that SOB kept sending me over the middle and with him throwing off his heels all the time, I kept taking it in the ribs or under the helmet. He was trying to get me killed.
I'm a free agent looking for a 35 year deal before I check out: Allah? . . . Satan? . . . anyone?
where anytime someone of faith stands up, they're called rubes and rednecks and idiots and Christianists, no thy name is repuglican.