Limbaugh suggested caller visit site of Foster suicide: "See if you get out alive"
On the January 19 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh advised a caller to "go to Fort Marcy Park" on the caller's upcoming visit to Washington, D.C., and "[s]ee if you get out alive." Fort Marcy Park is the Northern Virginia location where Clinton Deputy White House Counsel Vincent Foster committed suicide on July 20, 1993.
As Media Matters for America has noted (here, here, here, and here), Limbaugh has a history of invoking Fort Marcy Park to suggest that the Clintons were somehow involved in Foster's death, despite multiple official investigations that determined Foster committed suicide.
From the January 19 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
CALLER: [laughs] Too funny! Hey, we homeschool four kids, and we want to thank you for what you do in helping us teach our kids about political science, the right side of it.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you're welcome.
CALLER: And my daughters and I are heading to Washington, D.C., tonight to go to the March for Life on Monday --
LIMBAUGH: Yeah.
CALLER: -- and we're gonna do some sightseeing and some shopping, and we were wondering what your favorite historical site is and restaurant --
LIMBAUGH: My --
CALLER: -- in Washington, D.C.
LIMBAUGH: Well, I don't have a favorite restaurant in Washington 'cause I haven't eaten in one in -- I don't go there enough. I can't remember the last restaurant I ate at in Washington.
CALLER: OK.
LIMBAUGH: Wait! Yes, I can. It was 1992, and it was the Old Ebbitt Grill.
CALLER: Oh! That's on our list. Someone else has suggested that.
LIMBAUGH: Yeah, it's not far from the White House.
CALLER: Right.
LIMBAUGH: I -- [chuckles] I'll tell you why -- I had, I was going -- that was the day I went to the White House to have dinner with President Bush 41 and I had heard that he and his wife, Barbara, ate like birds, so I was advised to go eat a real dinner before I showed up.
CALLER: [giggles]
LIMBAUGH: And I went to the Old Ebbitt Grill with a -- with a friend. As for historical sites, my, gosh. You -- you're not gonna have enough time to see 'em all. For me, you know, aside, aside from, like, the Lincoln Memorial, the Jefferson Memorial and the Washington Monument, of course, you -- I just-- I go nuts over the Air and Space Museum.
CALLER: OK.
LIMBAUGH: I just, I -- that place is just fascinating to me and they've -- they've recently -- well, within a couple years, three years -- expanded it. It's part of the Smithsonian.
CALLER: Yes.
LIMBAUGH: Smith -- and it's a shame you can't get out to Mount Vernon, George Washington's home. You won't -- you make it, you would not believe what they have done to revive this place as a historical and educational center. It would literally blow your mind.
What else that you could do? [mutters] Well, you've got the war memorials. You've got the, the Vietnam and Korean and World War II memorials.
CALLER: Yeah, we're taking a night tour of all those.
LIMBAUGH: Yeah, well -- well, then you're doin' all this stuff.
CALLER: We just wanted to know what your favorite thing was.
LIMBAUGH: Ahh -- well, geez, you know, the National Archives. You get to see the actual Constitution.
CALLER: Oh, cool.
LIMBAUGH: Place where Sandy Burglar [sic] stole the documents.
CALLER: Oh!
LIMBAUGH: In his socks. That's a good place -- good place to see.
CALLER: [giggles]
LIMBAUGH: You might want to go to Fort Marcy Park. See if you get out alive.
CALLER: [giggles] OK.
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And to think these are the guys who kept telling US to "get over it."
Yikes!
Even scarier on this is that the caller is saying that he uses Rush to educate his home schooled kids about political science. Now, nothing Rush does is political science, it's all bluster and bullying. Rush is also the 2nd guy I have heard about basically insinuating that the Clinton's killed Foster. Ah, the good old attacks have started anew now that Hillary has officially declared that she's running. How many times can one debunk this myth? It has a life of its own these days really.
One of the former hosts of the Howard Stern Show (perhaps he's still on it, I don't know) wrote an entire book about how the Clintons got away with committing murder, running a drug trade, etc. He's interviewed occasionally on an afternoon talk show I listen to, and his hatred of all things Clinton is unthinkable.
he was not a host, but a caller melrose larry green
Mag,
This is what scares me about Rush and his counterparts. I am accused of exagerrating the right wing radio effect on politics and consequently society. It's quite detrimental because their devoted listeners accept what these people say without question. Rush is no political expert or an expert in anything. I wonder how many of the conservative parents home schooling their kids use Rush and other charlatons like him as resourses to teach political and social studies to their children.
No kidding isnt that child abuse?
That's pathetic even by Rush's "standards." He sounds like the Agent Mulder of the whacked-out right, with all his freakazoid conspiracy theories.
The Truth is in there.Some day he'll pull it out, but it will probably be by accident.
Oh boy, so Limbaugh's a jerk. how many topics are there on this? You could just cut and paste the comments from dozens of other limbaugh stuff it would all the same. move on already.
Point is....
Is that this is a site that is exposing conservative misinformation, and Rush is probably the leader of conservative misinformation. It's not about him being a jerk, it's about the people listening to him believing what falls from his mouth on a daily basis. You know, the Dittoheads and all.
How about just a daily or weekly update on Rush. Could be very short and simple:
"Rush pulled some more stuff out of his butt today. We're not going into details."
Or something like that.
I hate to see MMFA wasting time on him. There are probably other, seemingly more reputable, sources of misinformation out there.
I really don't understand why people put up comments saying, "why is Media Matters paying attention to this?" I mean.... folks, it's a blog, there are a bunch of posts every day, and some are more important than others.
People can just pass by things they don't think are important. I don't think this is a really big deal, but I am sure that, in the future, this will be referenced on a list of lousy things Limbaugh has said. I for one think it is nice that MMFA actually keeps a record of what Limbaugh actually says, rather than broadly saying, "Limbaugh pulls things out of his ass a lot."
kind of like a lot of these idiots just pull stuff out of their butt. if they don't like the site, move on. and to address what rush said, ken starr spent a lot of time on the vince foster thing. if he was able to pin anything on them he would have.
i believe they are called concern trolls
"move on already."
Address your concerned advice to Mr. Limbaugh. We're trying to move on, but he obviously isn't. When he does, so will we.
Dave Chicago is right. Limbaugh has been defaming the Clintons for years, snidely suggesting that they murdered Vince Foster when there is not one shred of evidence to support it. Then, when MMFA calls attention to this tripe, some people suggest that MMFA should "get over it." Isn't that completely misdirected? The time to stop pointing out Limbaugh's baseless innuendos are when Limbaugh stops making baseless innuendos. Until that happens, this garbage cannot be ignored because then the "Dittoheads" will jump up and say--"See, the Libs cannot even defend Clinton so there must be truth in what Limbaugh says." The fact that Limbaugh still has any listeners just shows that ignoring him, which I believe was standard operating procedure amongst Democrats for years, does not work. In fact, the attacks thrown at this site by the right-wing "pundits" (such as O'Reilly's recent attack) shows that this site is having some very positive effects, and anyone who says "just ignore it" is missing the point completely.
so, why then doesn't the Democratic party or any of it's more prominent and influential people, or anyone in that party ever, EVER respond to Rush and his dumb comments? According to you they should respond to everything he says, and they never do. Why is that. maybe it's because there are more important things to do than worry about every time Rush opens his mouth. you and dave from chicago get all upset and just call him names back, same thing. Most people just listen and laigh at Rush, if they listen at all. Get a life.
Yet here you are, wasting time with us.YOU get a life. If this stuff isn't important to you, then why are you here?
gotta see what is the crisis dujour for liberals these days, and pointing out your whining is half the fun. Like I said, why don't the Democrats in power answer Rush? And if he is so effective and all that ignoring was not the right thing to do, then how in the world did they just sweep both houses in Washington last year?
Why, indeed?
I've often wondered this myself. I really believe that failure to respond to the Right's professional liars cost Gore and Kerry the elections.
As for Rush's audience, I think you vastly overestimate their intelligence.
You forget.
Gore won the 2000 election.
"According to you [prominent, influential Democrats] should respond to everything he says, and they never do. ... you and dave from chicago get all upset and just call him names back, same thing."
But Mark didn't say the influential or prominent members of the Democratic party should respond to Limbaugh. He, and I are defending Media Matters, who HAVE responded, and are the people you told to "move on already". I am not "all upset" OR calling Limbaugh names, as you accused. Again: Limbaugh is the one who ought to "move on". Until he does, expect to see more items like this one on this site.
Gee, Billyboy, it is indeed hard to respond to such deep, insightful comments as "Get a life." I am totally helpless to respond to someone with the analytical depth that you obviously possess. I better go now before you spew more pearls of wisdom such as: "I know you are but what am I?" Thank you for showing me the error of my ways. Pointing out Limbaugh's misinformation and hate-filled rhetoric is indeed a waste of time when addressing someone of your stature.
Im not sure what Limbaughs point is, this happened 14 years ago. I guess he cant get out of the past.
What "happened" 14 years ago was a suicide. Limbaugh is calling it a murder and pinning it on Hilary Clinton. Your comment seems to be agreeing with Limbaugh.
I've found a new reason to fear people who homeschool their kids: They're apparently raising children who will grow up to think that "Feminazi" is a legitimate term in the realm of political science.
Good god.
It has begun
With Hillary Clinton's bonnet in the ring, the rightwing's bastion of blowhards and liars are on a full-blown BS alert and are to commence the reiteration of EVERY debunked Clinton-era lie, to clog the arteries of the media with rightwing plaque, anything to induce a collective heart attack response in the public concerning the viability of Hillary as a candidate.
The Vince Foster lie is Rush's first assault on the body politic. Any guesses which lie is next? The AF1 hair cut? More murmurings of murder? Only the fat a-hole knows! (voice trails off in fits of fiendish drug-addled laugher)
LIMBAUGH: Ahh -- well, geez, you know, the National Archives. You get to see the actual Constitution.
CALLER: Oh, cool.
LIMBAUGH: Place where Sandy Burglar [sic] stole the documents.
CALLER: Oh!
LIMBAUGH: In his socks. That's a good place -- good place to see.
CALLER: [giggles]
LIMBAUGH: You might want to go to Fort Marcy Park. See if you get out alive.
CALLER: [giggles] OK.
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Sorry folks but I laughed.
You guys loathe Rush, I don't. Nothing serious here. This is his attempt at wit. The "Sandy Burglar" bit was funny. And while I don't think making fun of any death is particularly comical...THIS dig was a relatively harmless quip.
No lectures please. ;-)
Careful jeter.........any insensitive laughter on your part, where this thread is concerned, makes you complicit in furthering Rush's theory. And there is no room, none at all, for any levity by what MMFA hero Keith Olberman calls Limbaugh, a comedian.
And that begs the question, is he or is not a comedian? If he is, then this falls under that category, funny or not. If he is not, then someone better correct Olberman.
Did you hear the one about...
the dumb hillbilly heroin addicted dufus who tried to pass off his venomous vitriol as comedy?
Limbaugh is very troublesome for many on the left, or so it appears. Those in Olberman's camp apparently want to minimize his rhetoric, rightly discount it for what it is, and call him a comedian. While others, including this website and many here, want to elevate his stature and highlight his utterances so they can lump the "right" and conservatives in with him.
For the record, I am in agreement with Olberman. How about the rest of you?
tommy if you so disagree with the purpose of this site, take your whining elsewhere. if you have said that "we should just ignore it" garbage once, you've said it ten thousand times.
You would do well to follow your own sage advice regarding your responses to my posts.
tell you what. stop making those posts, the ones you keep making, just like the one above, and i won't have to respond. we get the idea, you disagree with the whole purpose of the site. now, what next?
Let me help you out. You actually don't have to respond, if you don't want to. I don't know who told you that you did, but I am relieving you of that mandate now. Go in peace.
you would like that but i enjoy showing you for the misinformed whiner you are.
Listen you two.... we can turn this blog right around and go straight back home. Is that what you want? Hm?
can we put tommy in the trunk?
Tommy: I do not suggest or imply that Rush's comments represent what all conservatives think. But I do think that he has influence, and I do think that some of the "dittoheads" agree with him on a very regular basis. (Ergo the nickname "Dittoheads.") I think his comments suggesting that the Clintons murdered Vince Foster are shameful, and I do not share your view that they should be treated as comedic since the comments are not funny unless you believe that the Clintons were in fact involved with Vince Foster's murder. I have little doubt that if some liberal "comedic" radio personality made consistent references to Bush murdering the soldiers who have died in Iraq that that would not be considered funny by conservatives, and the conservatives would be right. If Mr. Limbaugh has any proof that the Clintons murdered Vince Foster he should put up or shut up. If he does not, it is cowardly to say he is "joking" about murder, and conservatives as well as liberals should denounce such comments.
Mark, What exactly is Rush's influence where this particular topic is concerned? As a result of his comment do you think there is a chance that this investigation could be reopened? Perhaps an overzealous detective in the D.C. area is a dittohead and is being influenced by Rush as we speak? He will rush to headquarters and beg his superiors to try and get some dirt on the Clinton's because of Rush's comment..........do you think this is possible.
If it is, I see your point. If it's not............well, do you see how silly all this hand-wringing is?
duh. his "influence" is that he keeps repeating a right wing lie about one of the presidential candidates. get it?
duh. What good is the right wing lie if it falls flat and goes nowhere, except from the highlight it receives here?
bigger duh, a lot of people believe it. and if it goes not further than here, then what is it doing on the limbaugh show? duh.
Okay, people stop yelling at Tommy, its not even the scheduled "Attack Tommy Day" (Thursday).
No really, I think maybe he just does not see the whole picture. This is my take on the subject and one of the reasons MMFA exists.
There is a political science term for this (can't find it in my books right now), but this is how it goes. Do I agree with you that some times MMFA posts articles that are not extremely important, yes. On those I just read the article, see if there are any funny posts and then move to the next article.
The PS theory/practice:
If you were running for office and I was the host of a radio show. I opose you but really don't have a lot of issues to attack you on, I could use this.
I start by throwing up baseless claims against you, some so idiotic people think they are funny and some not so much. Like "Tommy microwaves stray kittens" and "Well did you notice that last time Tommy held office his friend who disagreed with him died? I wonder if he had something to do with it?" Are people going to believe it?
Probably not, but I'm just throwing S@@@ on the wall to see what sticks. It only takes one or more people to think "maybe he did." They pass that along to thier friends, etc. Soon there is this rumor on the net (and Fox news) that every kitten in your neighborhood has vanished. See now you just lost a number of Humane Society votes, even though most of those individuals never heard the original claim, only the rumors.
Why don't you fight the claim? Yes you could if it was just me attacking you. But if a radio show, a news company, a newspaper, bloggers, etc. are all attacking you at once and on many different issues, you can't fight even half of them. You have more important things to do, like run a country (in the case of the Clintons). Also your party tries to protect you, but they are also limited (also some people would see your extreme protests as proof that you do harm kittens).
What MMFA and others like it do is simple. They post the lies and inacurate information of the neo-cons and right wing media. In a way some of the articles are just for background information (like, here is this person on the news, does he have a bias? well lets look at some of the things he/she said in tha past.)
Others require action or are meant to get liberals up to date on what the far right is saying about them. MMFA also provides a forum for debate (notice I did not say attacks) for those who actually want to debate an issue. (a little aside: Neo-Con posters who just pop in to launch attacks and then flee when called on it are not welcome (at least not by me). If you have a point, make it and defend it. I mean thats why I like you Tommy, at least most of the time (75%) post actual questions or comments.)
And one additional thing to add to my scenerio.
I protect myself by telling my listeners that everyone in the media are right wing facist (Rush and company do this, but liberal bias, etc). That way when some one questions my assertion that you microwave kittens my listeners just shake thier heads and say, "GD right wing media, how dare they question McCain." Even if the reporter said the other day "gay people should be able to get married, Bush lies, Republicans are all evil," now he or she is part of the right wing media.
Don't believe me? Next time MMFA posts a story on Savage, something that even you think he went overboard on, read the posts from Mr. Weiner's supports. They never argue the point made or question it. They scream about the lefty liberals and such.
The Democrates at times have tried this tactic, but somehow the far right are much better at it.
i guess you missed the point. tommy continually makes posts about how we should just ignore this or that misinformation and it will go away. that is not the stated purpose of this site. notice i used the word "continually". as in over and over. so if he ends up on the receiving end of a little sarcasm, it's well deserved. perhaps you think it a good use of time to keep hearing this same thing ad nauseum, but i do not.
Tommy, you miss the point.
There are enough dumbasses out there who hang on Rush's every word that this crap seeps into the public consciousness. Add to that the sad fact that the MSM often repeats Rush's lies without fact-checking , and you see the real problem that Liberals have with this pig.
Nerzog, No - I am not missing the point. Highlighting Limbaugh's factually devoid comments where public policy is concerned is one thing, although even that is suspect for anymore than a simple correction if warranted. But to take these ridiculous comments by him and then act is if they have any traction beyond a chuckle by his listeners is giving him and the comment way more importance than they even remotely deserve.
No, that's not it.
I think you give his sycophantic listeners far more credit than they deserve.
Traction?This piece starts off with a caller who tells Limbaugh that he uses his radio show to teach Political Science to his children.Although I agree that Limbaugh is devoid of facts I disagree that his rant has no traction. Of course the Vince Foster case is closed. It will not be re-opened. I'll grant you that this was an attempt at humor.But I can't forget that this caller sees Limbaugh as more than an entertainer or "humorist". He seems to be telling his children that Rush speaks truth. My kids grew up listening to "Poliitical Science" by Randy Newman. Irony isn't easily undersood by small children. I can remember telling them that the song was supposed to be humorous, we really don't want to blow up South America because they stole our name.Somehow, I don't think this caller is teaching his children irony or parody by using Limbaugh's show to educate his kids.
It's all about REINFORCING the NARRATIVE.
It's not just Limbaugh; it's every rightwinger everywhere. It's about defining a "shorthand" for how to deal with every person and every issue. It's about Frank Luntz "focus group" testing every phrase, word, and syllable for the "right" effect.
The idea is to instill these "frames" in society to where they are adopted for common usage. Take for example Bush's most recent proposal to send more troops to Iraq. Every rightwinger is to refer to this as a "SURGE", instead of an escallation (which is what it really is). When everyday people and Democrats are discussing a "SURGE", then the rightwing has already WON the battle of definition: it is a SURGE instead of an escallation, and all the arguments take place within the chosen FRAME.
Ah, but sometimes the selected word doesn't work so well. It is seen as the deception and attempt at misdirection that it is. It falls out of favor, because it is not allowing the rightwing to ADVANCE their policy. So, sometimes, SURGE must be replaced with a NEW term, to keep from using the TRUTHFUL term of "escallation". The NEW term, which the rightwing will attempt to place on every lip in America, is "reinforcement". That NEW word has the proper connotation of the action, it is something everybody can support, and it is easier to defend than an escallation.
So, it's all about REINFORCEMENT. The knees will jerk. Democrat = tax raiser. Kennedy = Chappaquiddick. Kerry = flip-flopper. It's easy, it's brainless, it's creating the FRAME for which all things can be defined in terms which advance the rightwing view.
Fort Marcy Park will forever be identified by the shorthand rightwing frame as "= murder = by the Clintons". The knee, having jerked, moves on to the next definitional acrobatic to fulfill the cementing of the rightwing narrative.
THAT is the "misinformation" that needs to be noted and challenged, wherever it crops up. And it's working: Neither SURGE nor REINFORCEMENT is selling to the American People. They KNOW that what's being called for is an ESCALLATION of the war, sending more bodies of our brave young troops into harm's way with no plan nor even definition of "victory", solely to prevent Bush from being seen as wrong, mistaken and a loser.
Citing the narrative for Fort Marcy Park is just a tiny symptom of the widespread and blatant disease of FRAMING issues. And on every occasion, that FRAMING should be challenged, not letting the rightwing get away with trying to win rhetorically that which they have lost in the world of reality -- and to the continuing misery and suffering of this nation.
Tommy: I will try to point out something to you that I think is obvious and that you already know, but you keep professing ignorance on the point so I will make one last attempt. The question is not "will a detectieve reopen an investigation based on what Rush said." The answer to that strwman is NO. The question is "Does Rush's regular lies, smears and innuendo influence some of his listeners, and do some of his listeners believe there is some truth to what he says?" I believe the answer to that question is YES. That means some people are being influenced by his lies, smears and innuendo. You know as I do that the last two presidential elections were razor thin, which means that lies and innuendo can most definitely have far-reaching effects. I am, frankly, tired of people like you saying "ignore it" when the effects of ignoring it are so obvious to anyone who looks at it, including you. Will web-sites like this make it go away? maybe not, but the more Rush's garbage is highlighted, the more that some intellectually honest "Dittoheads" might have to say "Enough is enough. I cannot listen to this crap anymore." That is the goal, and that is why I willl not ignore it. Okay?
Mark, Let me just say this........the more you call Rush's listeners dumb or some other insult, and the more you call what he says lies and smears - the more his listeners just dig in their heels and move closer to their radio and lap up more of his schtick. You think they are looking for evidence of his one sided, admitted right wing slant? And some outrageous comment of his highlighted here will all of a sudden have them bolt up in bed one night and decide "Enough is enough"?
Doubt it.
On the other hand, do you really believe that if we're nice to Rush's listeners, they will suddenly be enthralled by our fairmindedness and vote Democratic?
I doubt it.
so tommy thinks rush's listeners are so shallow that being called names will just make them believe him even more. thanks for proving the point, mr. clueless.
Mark, Let me just say this........the more you call Rush's listeners dumb or some other insult...
Tommy, let me just say this........the more you put words in Mark's mouth (note: he did not insult Rush's listeners in the post you're responding to!), the lower your already fragile credibility sinks.
Your attempt at a point is a false dichotomy. Are there only two types of people that hear what Limbaugh says? True believers and those who look for misinformation? NO, I have heard otherwise solid liberals and smart people cite Limbuagh information. When I pointed out it was a flat out lie, and he was a propagandist. They listened to me and checked my information. They then KNEW both the truth and that Limbaugh could not be trusted. So there ARE people who are sometimes exposed to Limbaugh that are reachable. Limbaugh IS a liar, there isnt any question about that, its as evident as the fact the sky is blue, he as much as admitted it himself. YOU are advocating Hobbs choice. YOU are saying no matter what he says we should ignore it because there isnt anything we can do about it. Well that is a self fulfilling prophesy, if we dont TRY to do something about it we ASSURE nothing is done about it, that it is never countered. This just, coincidentally I am sure, allows Limbaugh free riegn to continue his lying and misinformation. Excuse me if I eschew Hobbs choice
Tommy: Your question was do I believe that some of Rush's listeners may say "enough is enough" if his lies, smears and innuedos are consitently pointed out. The answer is "Yes I do." I have had converstaions on this same topic with friends and relatives who listen to Rush, or Hannity, or O'Reilly. When I am able to give them specific examples of what I am talking about, which MMFA provides, it is very helpful in proving a point. I had a brother-in-law tell me yeterday that he can no longer listen to Hannity because he finally noticed how Hannity just shouts over anyone who disagrees with him, rather than engage in honest debate. Will everyone who listens to Limbaugh change? No. But how about some Tommy? Do you think it is possible to change some minds if Limbaugh's b.s. is consistently pointed out? The 2000 election was decided by 500 votes in FL. (We will not even talk about how many voters were not allowed to vote). So how many votes have to be changed Tommy to make a difference? About 250? Why do you think that Bush calls the right wing pundits to the White House anyway? Because what they say has no effect? No, it is because the White House knows, as you do, that these gasbags have an effect, and that they can help swing public opinion. Please stop your consistent comments about how everyone should just ignore this stuff Tommy. You know as well as I do that ignoring this stuff does not work, and the "pundits" have gotten away with trampling the truth for years. Why is it so surprising to you that some people, most especially the people that would regularly come to this site, will no longer ignore this crap? By the way, I think that I have a higher opinion of some of Rush's listeners than you do. I really believe that some of them do care about the truth, and if Limbaugh is consistently shown to be untruthful it will have an effect on his listeners. You apparently think that all of them are such sheep, that no amount of facts could ever change their minds. Why do you have such a low opinion of Rush's listeners Tommy?
So there is no problem with disseminating baseless slander about someone to millions of people as IF it were comedy? Hey I hear that when tommy molests small furry animals he does it in a clown suit and sometimes has to call EMTs to extract them from dank places in his anatomy. Isnt that hilarious?
Tommy, I could be mistaken, but I'd always thought Olbermans referring to Rush as a "comedian" was a goof on how a lot of the righty talkers double talk about themselves.
They'll sit right in front of a big sign that says Fox "News", or refer to them selves as "America's Anchorman", the "new media", etc.,constantly promoting themselves as a source for reliable information, the TRUTH.
Then when they get called on their BS, it's suddenly, "Aw shucks, I'm just an entertainer...", or "I'm a commentator/humorist/whatever"
That's how I've always heard it.
I hear ya Tommy....
I'm ready to be accused of having a warped sense of humor ;-)
Kooks from BOTH sides dabble in Conspiracy theories. I don't think even Rush believes [in his head or heart] that the Clintons had anything to do with Vince Foster's death. It's just part of his shtick to allude to it from time to time.
I laughed. I admit it. So IF anyone wants to lecture me they can. I won't care, but they are free to voice an opinion. As am I.
Explain the "funny" in a "suicide?" Or the "funny" in so baselessly accusing someone of murder?
yeah Tommy, Rush is funny alright! About as funny as a turd in the punch bowl!
Tommy,
Do you believe this parent that uses Rush's political expertise to teach her kids thinks Rush is a comedian? I think not my dear Tommy. I know you think I exagerrate Rush's detrimental influence on the segment of the conservative electorate that swears by him like this nutty caller, but you seem to ignore the fact that he has already demonstrated his significant inluence on these voters. I believe the RNC gave Rush a public shout out for his efforts in sending HIS conservatives to the polls in large numbers. He sent them alright with heads chocked full of misinformation and RNC talking points.
Is he a comedian? Ask his followers. You obviously don't get Olbermann's point in calling Limbaugh a comedian. As with Jeter2's post, Rush's brownnosers have always defended the outrageous things Limbaugh says by saying he's an "entertainer" and "comedian." Olbermann sarcastically repeats that usage.
Just because something is funny doesn't mean it's not intentionally false and an attempt to rewrite history.
I sometimes laugh at Rush's jokes, he can be funny. But it doesn't mean that he should be able to get away with lies and insinuations. And it doesn't change that these are his ACTUAL OPINIONS, even though he always says when criticized "I was joking" as if that means he didn't mean what he said. He ALWAYS means what he says, even if he jokes about it. Or do you think he doesn't believe the above two things about Sandy "Burglar" and Vince Porter?
Maybe he believes stuff about Vince Porter whoever that is, I meant Vince Foster. :)
Hey Jeter, It doesn't bother you a little bit that there are parents using the Rush Limbaugh show as a teaching tool for their home schooled kids? Now don't get me wrong I know parents can educate their kids as they see fit, and that as long as they are meeting the criteria set forth by the individual jurisdictions within which they live they are quite within their right. I guess it's parental prerogative to offer the moon is made of green cheese theory as an alternative to the traditional and consensed opinion that it is not. Nevertheless, It's very sad and a bit worrisome to me. See I truly believe that Rush is a bigot, and my hope is that eventually these old school bigots and their sentiments will disappear via attrition as in they will die off and their sentiments will bite the dust along with them. Recent polling of the generation Xers gives me some reason to hope that this is indeed happening. It’s also probably the reason the caller’s kids are being home schooled. But to hear this parent say that Rush's show is used to teach her kids makes me know that in some circles bigotry will be passed on to the next generation. Maybe I’m being naïve to expect that bigotry will ever disappear completely, but hopefully the number of Rush’s will be significantly diminished. That’s my hope anyway.
Hey Lynn,
What I know about Home Schooling could fit on the end of a needle ;-)
My knee jerk reaction to Home Schooling is pretty negative to begin with. I strongly believe kids need to be in a more varied social setting as part of their overall education...just to the learn social skills that I doubt can be obtained at home.
As far as Rush [and his opinions/viewpoints] being a part of ANY curriculum...well no, personally I'd reject it were I home schooling my kids....THOUGH of course I would insist on presenting all political viewpoints in regards to the issues. I'd just be careful NOT to include extremists views as truth or fact. HOWEVER, I do think it would be important to let my kids know that even kooks & blowhards are FREE to join in the dialog...no matter how controversial their viewpoints might be.
"Sorry folks but I laughed."
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That makes one of us.
Jeter2, Rush is a real wit. As a matter of fact if you put him over 2 he'd be a half-wit. Anyway, while the caller heads for Macy Park maybe Rush will skedaddle over to his local Denny's parking lot for another fix.
Limpballs, why don't you go visit Iraq, outside the Green Zone . . . . . . and see if YOU get out alive.
I'd be willing to go out on a limb to say there are still a LOT of right-wingers who to this day STILL believe that the Clintons are suspect (if not totally guilty) in Foster's death.
When they hear their hero Limbaugh say something like the above, it only goes to renew the dittohead listeners' mistaken belief. I'd bet that Limbaugh is well aware of how quips like "See if you get out alive" reinforces right-wing myths like this one.
I know that this MMFA item is about the V. Foster murder myth, but I found this part of the conversation to be even more unbelievable:
LIMBAUGH: Ahh -- well, geez, you know, the National Archives. You get to see the actual Constitution.
The Constitution!! Like Rush actually cares about the Constitution!! Ha!
With advance apologies to the late, great Carroll O'Connor,
rush reminds me more and more of Archie Bunker every time I see his picture - and then you see what he has to say - wow, and I thought Archie was just a caricature, but here he is in the flesh!
Archie Bunker was/is a great American!!!
He took some german shrapnel in the butt donchaknow.
When are people ever going to stop taking this degenerate seriously?
Limbaugh's a Clinton hater from wayyyyy back.
He can't help himself.
The just look at what we are doing as an attempted intervention
To Loislap
What's there to like about Clinton?
He basically "perviated" the WH.
to:MMF
RE: LIMAUGH'S FT. MARCY COMMENTS
OCCASIONALLY, I LISTEN TO THE LIMBAUGH DIATRIBES WHEN I AM IN MY CAR. I CANNOT STAND MORE THAN 5-10 MINUTES OF HIS TRIPE.
I HAPPENED TO BE LISTENING ALL THREE TIMES THAT YOU REFERRED TO.
I HAVE BEEN WONDERING THESE PAST MONTHS WHY NO ONE HAD PICKED UP ON THIS ISSUE. KUDOS TO YOU FORYOUR EFFORTS. I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT HIS SUPPOSED 13.5 MILLION DITTOHEADS SWALLOW THIS GARBAGE.
THE ISSUE IS 13 YEARS OLD AND WAS INVESTIGATED BY 4 DIFFERENT AGENCIES INCLUDING TWO SPECIAL INVESTIGATORS,ONE OF WHOM WAS KEN STARR.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
YAKYM@WORLDNET.ATT.NET.