Olbermann awarded O'Reilly "Worst Person" honors for "white-bread" comment
On the June 8 edition of MSNBC's Countdown, host Keith Olbermann named Fox News host Bill O'Reilly "winner" of his nightly "Worst Person in the World" segment for, as Olbermann noted, "reacting to the arrest in the abduction and murder of the Kansas teenager Kelsey Smith, saying, quote, 'This guy [who] is charged has a child and a wife. You know, like he's a white-bread guy. And we're all going, "What is that?" ' " Media Matters for America noted O'Reilly's comments earlier that day. O'Reilly has frequently been cited during Olbermann's "Worst Person" segment, as Media Matters has documented (here, here, here, here, and here).
Additionally, Olbermann declared John MacArthur, pastor of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, "runner-up" for saying in a May 3 sermon, as Olbermann noted, "that because America has, quote, 'illicit sex, adultery, every form of immorality,' and, quote, 'you know a society has been abandoned by God when it celebrates lesbian sex,' therefore, quote, 'God would be just in any calamity that he brought on us,' including, quote, 'the destruction of an entire city.' " Olbermann further noted that MacArthur's sermon had been broadcast "by those fine, tolerant folks who work for the Father Coughlin of the 21st century, [Focus on the Family founder and chairman] James Dobson." Media Matters noted that Dobson aired MacArthur's comments on the June 7 edition of his Focus on the Family radio show.
From the June 8 edition of MSNBC's Countdown With Keith Olbermann:
OLBERMANN: The runner-up, Pastor John MacArthur of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, whose sermon, broadcast by those fine, tolerant folks who work for the Father Coughlin of the 21st century, James Dobson, says that because America has, quote, "illicit sex, adultery, every form or immorality", and, quote, "you know a society has been abandoned by God when it celebrates lesbian sex," therefore, quote, "God would be just in any calamity that he brought on us", including, quote, "the destruction of an entire city."
Just let God speak for himself, pal.
And the winner, Bill-O. Speaking of celebrating lesbian sex, reacting to the arrest in the abduction and murder of the Kansas teenager Kelsey Smith, saying, quote, "This guy [who] is charged has a child and a wife. You know, like he's a white-bread guy. And we're all going, 'What is that?' "
You were presuming it was going to be an illegal immigrant or a secular progressive, or best of all, a secular progressive illegal alien. Don't use the word "we" anymore. You represent nobody but yourself, chucklehead. Bill Orally, today's Worst Person in the World!
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Dang,
Another KO worst person to BO? Who the h*** cares?
Not me.
b.o. needs these to fill up his trophy case otherwise the only thing it's good for is coolaid storage and his malkin photo collection.
Not even worth wasting your time and effort to login and post how you feel about it, is it?
It wasn't even worth reading. (Which I didn't.)
This is stale bread as far as I'm concerned. We chatted about it the other day. Nothing but leftovers.
However I'm glad I provided you with a moment or two to fill your time.
;-)
Wasn't there a thread on this topic just the other day?
Oh wait Brock's boy-toy weighed in.
Well then, whatever I wrote before...just apply it here ;-)
Is this an ointment, does it come in a plastic tube? Can I take it via carry-on on the airplane?
It comes in ointment or spray...and you can keep it in your carry-on [once it's been scrutinized by security of course]
I'll tell ya Snoop it took me a second or two to "get it"...but once I did I laughed ;-)
And yet you just keep cutting and pasting that exact same post in these Olbermann threads.
Didn't you just question someone the other day about writing that Tucker Carlson "looked gay"? You--perhaps correctly--pointed out that a rightwinger would have been taken to task for writing such a thing, and yet you keep referring to Olbermann as Brock's "boy toy." Assuming that the phrase is meant to be a jab at Brock's sexuality, don't you think it's a bit hypocritical of you to be pointing to the splinter in someone else's eye?
Well I'm glad I checked in here before heading off to bed.
Clams, get your mind out of the gutter ;-)
What I meant, was that Keith is Brock's media plaything. Nothing sexual implied.
Keith awards whomever MMFA highlights, and Brock pats Keith on the head by giving him his very own thread. What other media person gets that sort of treatment from MMFA?
OK, I'll take you at your word that you weren't referencing Brock's homosexuality, but I don't think you can really be too surprised that anyone would make the inference. As I'm sure you've seen, Brock's sexuality is a frequent target of troll attacks, and I'm also pretty sure you wouldn't want to be perceived as participating in that sort of thing.
Clams,
I can't ever recall making reference to Brock's sexuality here [or anyone else's for that matter], which is why I felt justified in asking the posters the other day about the Tucker Carlson "looks Gay" remarks, and my comment that I or other Conservatives here would likely be taken "to task" had we made a similar remark about someone.
The only *snipes* I take at Brock from time to time have to do with his past hit pieces on Bill Clinton & Anita Hill. [And yes, before anyone reminds me--he has apologized for them] and his, IMO, excessive *promoting* of Olbermann, through highlighting Keith's Worst Person Awards. Brock's prerogative of course to do so, and mine to ask "why is this here" ;-)
While I can certainly understand how my "boy-toy" comment could be misinterpreted, I believe you're the first & only one [thus far] to question it's usage.
I have seen others here occasionally bring up Brock's private life, but you're correct in saying that I wouldn't want to be "perceived as participating" in that type of smearing.
So I'll put the "boy-toy" on the shelf, and see if I can come up with something less offensive sounding.
interesting concept. We should all comment on these stories without reading them. It would be the "right" thing to do.
And who the heck cares whether or not you care? Certainly not me.
your empathy is showing
Dang! Another "Why is this here" post from AnotherRepublican.
Who gives a flying f***?
You obviously care. That's why you're here, right? Anyway, why do some of you make such a fuss about Keith's WPITW? Billo has it coming. Sure, there are a few others who do too, but I'm sure Keith will get round to them. Sheesh. Take it easy!
"white BREAD guy"? Bill just made a mistake, give him a break.
What he really meant to say was "white guy."
(But you may rest assured his Southern viewers know exactly what he meant.)
Guessing if BO will be Olby's worst person of the day is like wondering if the sun will rise.
He has a bad case of BO envy.
I think it speaks more to O'Reilly's steady delivery of falsehoods, misconceptions, and blunders being a great source of entertaining material.
It makes perfectly good sense to me that B.O once again makes the Worst Person list.
Can anyone think of anyone worse than B.O.?
There isn't a deoderant powerful enough to get rid of B.O. as long as Fox station exists and the dimbulb viewers tune in to B.O. I for one find myself holding my nose when B.O. spews his righteousness.
Murdoch is proud of the fact that he was instrumental in conning the public into becoming war mongerers against an innocent nation. Hell of a thing to be proud of but then again my brain isn't as warped as Murdochs or the right wingers.
b.o. is a skidmark on the panties of life. His only wothwhile function is to keep the paddles going round at his local waste treatment plant
Djasper, you do have a way with words!
Thank you. Just remember skidmarks are what wet farts grow up to be.
Then their farps.
You have a way with words. Please explain
I suppose its merely personal the p adds a feeling of soggyness for me. I could go further, but I don't want to elecite an Ewuuu!
Not good enough. I'll have to chance it. the physics of wet versis dry, changes the product. Which changes the sound,to me to farp.
More than you want to know? You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.
Just got an email from the Pilsburry Dough Boy. White bread + peristalsis = b.o.. Hope that clears the air. Did you know there is a mental clarity problem in the world? I know why. Very few people know why. I gotta say, I don't feel anybodys comments are going ti impact the problems discussed so a little levity is justified.
It makes perfectly good sense to me that B.O once again makes the Worst Person list.
I've been told [more than once] here that Keith's Worst Person Awards are not to be taken seriously because he's not necessarily really naming the absolute worst people in the world.
So why pray tell does MMFA highlight them?
Backroom deal between MMFA & Keith? You rub my back....
Can't be any other feasible reason for these *repeats* of topics we've already discussed.
"Backroom deal between MMFA & Keith?"
Fine by me.
Honest response.
I like that Monk :-)
I really do not get it. It is some kind of cross promotional effort on both Olby and MMFA. Olbermann uses the MMFA materia and MMFA promotes the show. However most of the MMFA audience loves Olbermann so obviously it is not making him more marketable. Night after night Hate does not sell in America. Americans get tired of the same old, and that is what is happening on MSNBC at 8pm. Remember this is the same network that tolerated Don Imus for over 10 years , do not look for Olbermann to go anywhere unless a Democrat is elected in 2009, he will do what he did when he covered the Monica story, pack up and leave and go to FOX (Sports) a network today that he attacks daily .
Can anyone think of anyone worse than BO?
Yes. Bill is simply a buffoon. With a very large audience of course but in the end just a buffoon. The ones we have to keep aware of are those of Sean Hannitys ilk: full of unamerican garbage and with a complete disdain for what this country stands for but with a veneer of patriotism that so many of our fellow citizens seem to approve of.
Just finished viewing "The McCarthy Years" and was astounded by the similarities of then and now and the sameness of the speech of McCarthy and Hannity and those like him. O'rielly is a mere distraction from those who are truly dangerous to our freedoms.
I actually has nothing to do with what he says or represents and everything to do with ratings, or lack of in Olbys world.
It all comes back to ratings. (yawn)
After all, O'Reilly + Ratings = Facts.
White bread + digestive enzymes and bacteria = b.o.
Lets see now, the runner up claims God will punsish us as a society for our immoral ways (a common claim) and the winner expresses surpise that a white bread family man could commit a terrible crime. And says it to how many million viewers? Gosh none of us white guys with jobs and families would be so evil! Whats up with that?
--ML
One of Keith's best ...
I love it when he name calls!! Well done!
God Bless Keith Olbermann.
Olbermann is a dolt. O's comment about the guy being "white bread" is just an analogy to describe him as standard fare... not a closet-dwelling loner or dusgruntled youth. Typical guy, wife, kid, etc. THAT is the point...
MMFA once again wastes the time of its members instead of dealing with actual substance.
The point Media Matters is making is a very important point ...
The dipstick--Bill O'Dork--is once again caught wallowing in 5th grade journalism. The basic implication is that it's somewhat more surprising when a"white guy" commits a heinous crime. Implying the story would be more believable if a "brown guy" had done it.
I disagree with you premise. I don't think Bill's surprise comes from the "white" part. It's the middle america, family guy thing that's unusual.
Any halfwit who pays attention to the news would know that plenty of these crimes are committed by white guys...I'd say the majority in fact. You may not like bill, but he gets plenty of news and he's not a complete idiot.
And sometimes when white guys get going, they do far more harm than one of them brown dudes. Can you say Ken Lay? Dick Cheney? GWBush?
Which is a bigger waste of time....Media Matters posting these stories, or conservative posters telling us that Media Matters is wasting our time by posting these stories? Has anyone done an empirical study?
Doing the study would be the bigest waste of time. At this point in time anybody that has voted for, endorsed, or campaigned for a republican and has grease, sugar and bleached white flour principles have suspect motives, ideas, principles and ideals. Republicans don't have any imperical evidence of anything. I would say they are kind of anti-imperical -evidence people. I would venture to say that 99.99% of republicans eat the traditional all American diet. Grease, sugar and bleached white flour. This diet is antithetical to the proper treatment of the temple to the soul and hypocrasy then would be the religion of the right. (see Dr. linus Pawling. 2 nobel prizes in medicine). Simply put. Virtually everything the right professes to be true is one BIG GIANT SKIDMARK on sanity and reason. I am convinced the combined total IQ of all republicans is 12.98457203681799356 according to my bull s--t meter. All I have to do is put the meter close to the pie hole of a republican and it gives me their IQ. With a stick, I do some complex calculations in sand and have extrapolated the beformentioned total IQ for all repuplicans. I should mention that this method is much more scientific and based in logic than the research methods used by fnc and the reasoning given by the bushskank administration for going to war in Iraq and for us still being there. Interestingly, reading tea leaves gave me the identical figure and the tea was pretty good too. The methods above are considered by the right wing chowder heads to be imperical. Their mantra should be: "I don't need no stinking science"
And thank you for .... well what ever you took the time to do.
No offence Nezog. Been a few coments today in the vein of this site being useless, and I fired from the hip.
I'd think the archves are a resource for a good number of useful studies. Your idea would take some work. A proper search engine I'm assuming could do it.
Done by hand it would lead to beady eyes and an injunction to keep away from sharp objects.
What Is Bill Really Trying To Say About Being Whitebread?
If Bill O'Reilly was speaking to the bigot supporters of his Party, I think we should define what "whitebread" means: "Whitebread can also be used as an anti-Caucasian or European racial pejorative, and it was a pejorative term used by Soviets to refer to Americans. The term can also refer to alleged blandness or plainness in a person. Its usage is similar to that of the term plain vanilla. In the DC comic book, Justice League International, the sarcastic Green Lantern Guy Gardner would often refer to his innocent, pure-hearted teammate Captain Marvel as ‘Captain Whitebread’."
Oh, I get it, O'Reilly is saying "how dare media make claims the "cream" of white American clean living style would do something like kill a teenage girl."
Where is O'Reilly going with his focus on segregation politics? Just the other day, he made reference to white male Christians owning and controlling the US. Now this.
Lets see, O'Reilly works for Fox; Fox works for Bush. Should there be disclaimers for this kind of inferences? It speaks to an attempt to silently say white folks don't do senseless murders. He could be making a plea for a little propaganda "hocus-pocus." Could this be an indirect request the suspect in the murder case be pictured as a "secular progressive," so he can blame the Democrats?
O'Reilly distracts from very important issues, and I am getting a little tired of trying to figure out what he's up to. Maybe the Democrats should do a little hocus-pocus on there own. It's time to shine O'Reilly on as if he disappeared into the "black hole" of not important to pay attention to.
Joseph
Used to love the Green Lantern.
Fox works for Bush? Can't agree with that.
I think there's too much being read into Bill's comments. The unusual part is the married with a little kid, middle america part. It's always a bit surprising to find out a "family" guy is responsible for something like this.
As far as white goes, I kinda expect these crimes to be committed mostly by single white guys. Does that make me prejudiced against my own race?
Many serial murderers are married and have children. The BTK Killer is a good example. He was also a leader in his church.
It is not uncommon for a white, married man with children to murder someone.
Once again, O'Reilly is just spouting whatever comes into his head.
Except that there's a broader context that we need to consider. O'Reilly's track record of covering regional crime stories tells us that he was probably hoping that the murderer had been a Mexican illegal alien or least a black guy. As long as the victim is white and preferably female, those are the stories he covers. Just look at his coverage of Naval Academy student Lamar Owens ("Golden Boy Gone Bad" was how the story was billed). This was post-Duke Lacrosse, and O'Reilly jumped all over the story of Owens's alleged rape of a female midshipman. Details of the charges hadn't even been released yet, but all O'Reilly wanted to do was repeat the word "rape" while showing photograph of Owens, who is black. He promised viewers he was going to follow the case, but Owens was acquited, so of course O'Reilly never mentioned it again. We could all come up with umpteen other examples just as blatant.
And when faced with brown or black victims, as in the Bronx fire that killed 9 African immigrants, he attempts to put the blame the victims and/or the "s-p"s who supposedly enable those victims.
He has a very clear agenda when it comes to covering crime stories, and this is simply yet another piece of the puzzle. So, no, he doesn't get the luxury of the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the phrase "whitebread," particular when every approved definition that anybody came up with specified that the term is used to identify a segment of the "white middle class."
I should also point out that with the Owens coverage, O'Reilly's agenda was truly exposed by the fact that another, arguably more newsworthy, rape/murder case involving a Navy sailor and a Marine corporal was in local papers at the same time. He clearly picked the Owens story because of the alleged perpetrator's race. The other story involved Navy sailor Cooper Jackson, who was accused of killing a Marine after being deceived by his "girlfriend"--whom he's never met in person--into thinking that she'd be raped by the Marine. Now that sounds more like Fox News fodder to me, but of course Jackson was white, and that doesn't do O'Reilly any good. Jackson later confessed to the killing.
Is it possible that a "typical" white guy could forsake the positive emotions (love, hope, faith, enthusiasm, romance, desire {there is another one} ) and embrace negative emotions (hate, anger, greed, revenge,superstition, fear and jealosy) and kill people? bush IS the embodiment of negative emotions. He is a "faker" b.o. practices negative thinking as does hannity.They are DEMIGODS. They really haveno clue about values. When you distill it down, tradition is the game of fools. b.o. is a traditionalist? What does he really mean when he says that? If you don't agree with him you hate America? How could anybody hate America? Could it be the Grand Canyon? Yosimite? He would say I hate America because I despise baby bushskank I despise the inept administration this drug adict and alcoholic has put together to create the most catastophic crimes a president has ever comitted. A percentage of Americans are responsible as we "voted" this pre-neandertal into the White House. Mark my words folks; In 2009 the truth (and I hope indictments) will come out so even the sheep in America will be able to see. The people of the world don't like bushes policies not America or Americans like b.o. suggests. b.o. is dangerous and IS responsible for troops dying in Iraq. He does have enfluence. If he had done the right thing and expose the truth behind the bush, cheney regime from the get go, we probably would not be in Iraq now. b.o. is a nutbag, windbag, blowhard, and is as shallow as saucer half filled with water. He is or was (I believe) a registered republican. Is this true folks?? Hope I didn't go too far off topic. I am p.o.ed
Yup said he was an independant. He is a registered Republican. Your p.o.ed feeling is shared, pace your self. Alot more people feel as you do than say two years ago. anger is a great motivator. As I'm sure your aware, its utility beyond this is suspect, at best.
BilldO had the guys who wrote that Hillary Clinton Book (Gerth/Van Natta ?)as guests last night, and they had a very pseudo-rational discussion about the fact that nobody pays attention to MMFA.
I should say, the duo told BilldO as much, and he replied with a fake-surprised "Is that right?", as if they were giving him some facts and not just reinforcing his constant smears of this site.
They wrapped up their mutually beneficial loofah party with the guests declaring themselves as registered Independents (thereby proving their impartiality), and BO chimong in "Hey, me too!"
Another 3rd grade puppet show, and it probably was effective enough for 28% of our fellow Americans.