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Olbermann named O'Reilly "Worst Person" for attacks on NBC, NY Times; Limbaugh placed second

July 11, 2007 7:15 pm ET

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On the July 10 edition of MSNBC's Countdown, host Keith Olbermann named Fox News anchor Bill O'Reilly the "winner" of his nightly "Worst Person in the World" segment for what Olbermann called "the stupid and very possibly libelous claim" that NBC and The New York Times "don't want Iraq to become successful as a nation or to somehow become a wall against terrorism." Olbermann observed, as Media Matters for America documented, that during the July 9 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly asserted: "I'm still praying for a miracle, as a stable Iraq makes the world a safer place. I believe that prayer is not being shared in some precincts here in America." Olbermann asked: "Precincts? Like the one in which the guy who said this lives: The United States ought to, quote, 'Hand over everything to the Iraqis as fast as humanly possible. There are so many nuts in the country -- so many crazies -- that we can't control them'? Who said that? Bill O'Reilly, February 20, 2006."

Olbermann named nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh the "runner-up" for criticizing an op-ed about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), as Media Matters also documented. Olbermann quoted from the op-ed, which said, "The most appealing thing about Clinton has always been her enemies, who often seem not in their right mind, screaming that she is a murderer." Olbermann continued: "Comedian's response, 'I don't know who's accusing her of murdering anybody.' " Olbermann declared that "it was Limbaugh himself who first put out the story nationally on his radio show in 1994 that a report was about to be issued that White House counsel Vince Foster was murdered in an apartment owned by Hillary Clinton and the body was then taken to Fort Marcy Park." Olbermann added: "Not even two years ago, Limbaugh said that if [anti-war activist] Cindy Sheehan criticized Sen. Clinton she would, quote, 'end up in Fort Marcy Park.' "

As Media Matters has documented (here, here, here, here, and here), Olbermann frequently names O'Reilly in his "Worst Person" segment. Recently, Olbermann named O'Reilly the "winner" for "reacting to the arrest in the abduction and murder of the Kansas teenager Kelsey Smith, saying, quote, 'This guy [who] is charged has a child and a wife. You know, like he's a white-bread guy. And we're all going, "What is that?" ' "

Limbaugh also frequently appears on Olbermann's list, as Media Matters has noted (here, here, here and here), and Limbaugh was recently named "winner" for complaining that Democrats are not asked "why there are no women and minorities on stage" during presidential debates.

From the July 10 edition of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann:

OLBERMANN: The runner-up, comedian Rush Limbaugh criticizing a pro-Hillary Clinton article that observed that the most appealing thing about Clinton has always been her enemies, who often seem not in their right mind, screaming that she is a murderer. Comedian's response: "I don't know who's accusing her of murdering anybody."

In fact, of course, it was Limbaugh himself who first put out the story nationally on his radio show in 1994 that a report was about to be issued that White House counsel Vince Foster was murdered in an apartment owned by Hillary Clinton and the body was then taken to Fort Marcy Park. Not even two years ago, Limbaugh said that if Cindy Sheehan criticized Sen. Clinton she would, quote, "end up in Fort Marcy Park."

And he doesn't remember anybody accusing her of murdering anybody. Memory loss: side effect of prescription-drug abuse?

But our winner, Bill-O attacking NBC and The New York Times with the completely stupid and very possibly libelous claim that these two organizations don't want Iraq to become successful as a nation or to somehow become a wall against terrorism. "I'm still praying for a miracle, as a stable Iraq makes the world a safer place. I believe that prayer is not being shared in some precincts here in America."

Precincts? Like the one in which the guy who said this lives: The United States ought to, quote, "Hand over everything to the Iraqis as fast as humanly possible. There are so many nuts in the country -- so many crazies -- that we can't control them"? Who said that? Bill O'Reilly, February 20, 2006.

Bill O'Reilly, why do you hate Bill O'Reilly? Bill-O, today's "Worst Person in the World."

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (July 11, 2007 7:59 pm ET)
         

      I think it was GB Shaw's response to a coment that he was contradicting himself.

      I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself. I am vast, I contain multitudes.

      Somehow I don't see Billo being this witty.

      As for Rushbo, classic. I didn't do nuthin, what are you staring at me for, ya bums.

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    • Author by conleytgwinn (July 11, 2007 8:00 pm ET)
         

      Am I first to ask, why is this here?

       

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      • Author by jeter2 (July 11, 2007 10:37 pm ET)
           

        Why indeed?

        Oh I know! It's time for Brock to pat his little buddy Keith on the head ;-)

        Why else would this be here? We've already had a thread on Limbaugh & O'Reilly.

        And here's what was already said:

        http://mediamatters.org/items/200707100009?f=h_latest

        http://mediamatters.org/items/200707090007

        What more can be added?

        But don't let me spoil the fun. Party on! Keith you the man!

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        • Author by tex (July 12, 2007 8:34 am ET)
             

          JETER:

          MMFA points out, documents, and rebuts with irrefutable sourcing all Rightwing Media Misinformation they can find ... and it's a LOT.

          MMFA also documents when OTHERS in the media actually challenge the false statements, lies, and misinformation in the Rightwing Media. This is WHY Keith Olbermann is featured with some regularity.

          Ah, but why don't OTHER media outlets get the MMFA "pat on the head"? Hmmm? Could it be because Olbermann is about the ONLY OTHER MEDIA person engaged in exposing Rightwing Misinformation, while the REST of the media is ENGAGING in Media Misinformation?

          To test this theory, you are FREE to chastise MMFA for MISSING other examples of Rightwing Media Misinformation being CHALLENGED and CORRECTED in a national media outlet. If you can come up with ONE or TWO examples that MMFA has missed, I'll be stunned.

          What you criticize as a cozy relationship will be exposed as the ONLY POSSIBLE such relationship, with the Media being so Rightwing these days. But I could be wrong. I await your presentation of PROOF of the exposure of Rightwing Media Information from all those in the media besides Olbermann, and then boy will MMFA be embarrassed ... but I won't be holding my breath.

          I contend MMFA celebrates ALL such like-goaled efforts in the Media ... it just so happens that there is Olbermann, and NOBODY ELSE doing this work. Again, I could be wrong ... so JETER, who is MMFA leaving out ? 

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          • Author by wethepeople (July 12, 2007 9:13 am ET)
               

            Tex- Well said. This IS Media Matters site, and they can make the decisions on what to post for conservative misinformation. They do a great job of it!

            Keith is a lone voice out in the wilderness who is also doing his bit to point out the absurdity of misstatements, lies, attacks, etc. that are stated as gospel by the likes of O'Reiley and Limbaugh.

            I think Keith led up to this particular days' "worse Person of the World" segment- with a "When moons collide".

            His humour is a slave to these hate mongers daily diatribes.

            I say keep posting Media Matters. And for those of you who don't want to read it. Don't.

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            • Author by wethepeople (July 12, 2007 9:15 am ET)
                 

              Correction- "humour is a salve- NOT" Slave!

              Keith makes my day!

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          • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 9:57 am ET)
               

            Tex you are a treasure. Like a sweet, but senile old Aunt.

            You're right, why isn't the MSM all over these 2 overt & terribly important stories?

            Why I'm shocked, just shocked I tell you that every newscast or political program didn't breathlessly inform their viewers that Limbaugh mentioned the Vince Foster suicide [or was it murder?] story & how he dared allude to it & Fort Marcy Park while discussing an op-ed piece. And that suspicious bad memory of his. I mean, come on---Stop The Presses!

            And whenever O'Reilly says something to contradict himself [which is daily], why that's worthy of Breaking News! So I'm just stunned that not one newscaster led with this story. Or mentioned it at all. Americans deserve to know!

            Olbermann has a chip on his shoulder regarding Billy-Boy, his self proclaimed arch-rival. Olbermann is on board the Liberal Express to rid the airwaves of Right-Wing radio so signling out Limbaugh, the grand poo-bah of talk radio is a favorite target. But newsworthy Conservative MIS-information that deserves world-wide coverage? Not hardly.

            It has become apparent that Keith gleans a lot of his material from MMFA. Well why the heck not? Cuts down on time researching elsewhere. And whenever Keith awards someone who has been signeled out by MMFA....well golly gee Olbermann gets his very own thread aka a pat on the head. What a coincidence;-)

            Keith Olbermann is to MSNBC what O'Reilly is to Fox.

            Why in your wildest dreams would you expect other NEWS outlets to cover each & every piece highlighted here?

            Has Keith ever mentioned those 9/11 conspiracy nuts like Liberal radio personality Mike Malloy? No?

            Oh I get it....YOU only want Clinton Conspiracy nuts covered & Conservative Mis-information televised 24/7.

            Here's a clue Tex, a lot of what gets covered here does end up on TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, & the internet. If you'd open your eyes & ears & stop playing victim you'd see that important stories that MMFA covers are everywhere... Why even that little devil Chris Matthews has been guilty of reporting on Conservative MIS-information.

            I'm sorry the MSM doesn't find every tid-bit about Limbaugh or O'Reilly as important as MMFA & their little buckaroo Keith.

            You'll just have to deal with that cowboy.

            *should you reply, just a heads up that'll I'll be out of my office today from 10:15ish till 2:30ish...but as always I'll get back to ya eventually*

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            • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 11:03 am ET)
                 

              May I please pile on?  : )

              Jeter2, you know that MMFA doesn't claim to be fair and balanced.  They expose right wing BS, of which there seems to be a never ending supply.

              Meanwhile, 90% of talk radio spends much of their time exposing what they believe is left wing BS.  They also cater to the uninformed by telling whoppers about the left, and until recently--it's been working.

              I've listened to Malloy, and have in fact heard him tell callers that he was not going to participate in 9/11-Bush conspiracy theories.  Now, I must admit that I haven't listened to him in a few months.  But based on a lot of hours listening, I'm sceptical.

              I am interested, however, of which other right wing exposers are out there on television.  I firmly believe the opposite is true.  A recent case in point: CNN/Gupta Vs. Michael Moore.  CNN misquoted Moore, then said that HE "fudged the facts."

              Keith Olberman is a breath of fresh air and truth whose ratings are steadily climbing.  I think that when people are sick and tired of being scared to death, they will start tuning in even more.  Then watch the righties scramble to the left when that's where the money is.

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              • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 3:18 pm ET)
                   

                I've listened to Malloy, and have in fact heard him tell callers that he was not going to participate in 9/11-Bush conspiracy theories.  Now, I must admit that I haven't listened to him in a few months.  But based on a lot of hours listening, I'm sceptical.

                “9/11, 9/11, 9/11. God these people got what they wanted, right?…..I am really really really concerned too, by the way, that the Bush administration is planning another attack on the United States that is going to be much more severe than the attack that they engineered on September 11, 2001” -Mike Malloy

                http://www.proxyowl.net/cgi-bin/cgiproxy/nph-proxy.pl/000000A/http/www.webloggin.com/video-blog-libs-exploit-911-video-footage-and-felled-soldiers-in-attack-touting-bush-conspiracy/

                Guess Mikey fibbed?

                So no one but Keith or MMFA carried the Elizabeth Edwards/Ann Coulter War? So Hardball didn't decimate Right-Wing MIS-information nightly during the Scooter Libby trial?

                Please Rick don't go down that road with Tex.

                As I pointed out IF it's important enough [not just another O'Reilly blunder] it gets covered out there.

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            • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 11:54 am ET)
                 

              Yes Jeter,

              We all know that MMFA and Keith Olbermann are two lonely islands surviving to stay afloat in a tumultous sea of conservative slime against the noble liberal cause. 

              Once MMFA highlights an item, the repeated parroting Keith gives it is absolutely necessary for emphasis........slaying the overwhelming conservative media giants is tough going, as Tex explains - in all his victimhood gallantry.

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              • Author by political_left-religious_right (July 12, 2007 12:18 pm ET)
                   

                Having a bad day, Tommy?

                We all know that MMFA and Keith Olbermann are two lonely islands surviving to stay afloat in a tumultous sea of conservative slime against the noble liberal cause. 

                I wouldn't put it in such a snotty and condescending way, but that's fairly accurate.  Congrats.

                Once MMFA highlights an item, the repeated parroting Keith gives it is absolutely necessary for emphasis........

                Unlike the parroting done by certain conservatives on this board, who shall remain nameless.

                slaying the overwhelming conservative media giants is tough going, as Tex explains - in all his victimhood gallantry.

                Just cut it out, already.  You will never be in Tex' class, which is probably why you didn't try to refute a single point he made.  Jeter's batting average in that role isn't so great, either.  Why don't you just take some of your own advice (which you've stated with monotonous regularity) namely:  if you don't like it, don't read it.  No one's forcing you to.  Just skip over the Olbermann items if they bother you so much.

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                • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 12:34 pm ET)
                     

                  The only thing worth reading in your post was that Jeter and myself are not in "Tex's class".......well thank god for that.

                  I always knew we weren't hysterical, whining victim happy liberals.  But your take on it is greatly appreciated, glad you noticed.

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                  • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 1:00 pm ET)
                       

                    Hysterical, whining, victim happy liberals?  How did you get all that from his post?

                    Reads to me that you were unable to debate the facts.  Therefore, you do what many right wingers do--call 'em names.

                    I'm now convinced!  You win the debate!

                    (sarcasm off)

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                    • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 1:03 pm ET)
                         

                      I've always found much humor in those who are both condecending and childish in the same conversation.

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                    • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 1:08 pm ET)
                         

                      Please tell me what indisputable "facts" Tex lays out in his post that neither Jeter nor I can refute?  Because all I see are more of his hysterical whining victim happy evil conservative poor liberal rhetoric that seep into nearly every one of his posts - hence the apt description.

                      But you wouldn't see that now would you? (sarcasm on, then off)

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                      • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 3:26 pm ET)
                           

                        Well said Tommy. Unfortunately, we're dealing with sheeple here.  

                        It's always 'poor poor pitiful me' with them. No facts, just repeating what those Democratic talking points--> The Media Is Against Us!!

                        Damn that MSM for not covering O'Reilly's every blunder. THAT proves they're biased!

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                • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 3:22 pm ET)
                     

                  Just cut it out, already.  You will never be in Tex' class, which is probably why you didn't try to refute a single point he made.  Jeter's batting average in that role isn't so great, either.

                  Tommy & I will never end up in a padded cell either. Unlike Tex.

                  Tex argues in generalizations not facts. I think my response refuted those generalizations. Of course I'd never expect any Liberal here to admit that.

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                  • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 3:42 pm ET)
                       

                    Well said J, that Tex argues in generalizations, not facts.  He is forever pushing the same talking points but is never challenged or asked for any backup from his fellow liberals, why is that?

                    His flowery and authoratative prose may fool some, but the rest of us find it just more empty boilerplate rhetoric, with no meat.

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              • Author by tex (July 12, 2007 5:44 pm ET)
                   

                on VICTIMS, re: Tommy and Jeter.

                There are VICTIMS in this world. Real people who are harmed, disadvantaged, and exploited by the powerful. There are victims of CRIME, innocent people harmed by criminals with guns and knives. And bombs.

                There are victims of WAR, killed and maimed on the say-so of a small handful of "leaders" who may very well be ill-intentioned, incompetent, or criminals themselves.

                There are victims of living and circumstance, who may find themselves ill or injured and have no money to pay for treatment.

                There are more esoteric victims, like those who have given up their right to privacy, their right to protection against unwarranted government search and seizure, because our "leaders" tell us we have to forfeit those protections to be 'secure' ... and we just have to trust government not to abuse their power usurpation.

                So there are all kinds of VICTIMS out there, and all need a voice. So, do I raise my voice against injustice and the victimization of my fellow citizens? You bet I do. Am I, myself, a VICTIM? Yes indeed, in many ways, when the government behaves UNJUSTLY. If one man unjustly loses his freedom, NONE are safe, NONE are free.

                So, now that I have admitted the nature of being a VICTIM and being the advocate for JUSTICE, another perspective:

                The Rightwingers here and elsewhere are CONSTANTLY whining the VICTIMHOOD cry: Life is UNFAIR to Rightwingers. It's a brutal Liberal Media, Unions are horrible, Colleges and professors victimize rightwingers, consumers victimize conservative corporations by demanding accountability in court, gays VICTIMIZE the married folks by requesting the same right to be married. Bush is VICTIMIZED by citizens who just don't understand that you either support BUSH, or you support the TERRORISTS. Scooter was VICTIMIZED by an "out of control" prosecutor.

                Note the difference: In the one case of VICTIMS, it is the poor and those without power being unjustly treated by those in power.

                In the second instance, it is the POWERFUL and WEALTHY demanding victim status because of a perceived "class warfare" that the mere citizens are waging against them. Poor EXXON, people demanding accountability. Poor Bush, misunderstood. Poor Haliburton, victimized by busybodies who are jealous of Haliburton's success. Poor Scooter, multi-millionaire power broker who can't even commit perjury without being rescued as a "VICTIM".

                So, there ARE victims, all around us. They DO need advocacy, and I plead guilty to pointing out injustices and bias. But playing that "VICTIM" card is tricky: The rightwing tries it constantly, but those who claim to be "victimized" are rich and powerful and anything but oppressed and without recourse.

                Victims DO need a voice, but those who are NOT victims by any stretch of reality have no business trying to claim victim STATUS, as the Rightwing constantly does. It's worse than pitiful, it is a sham. 

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                • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 5:53 pm ET)
                     

                  Wow.  (wiping tears)

                  This diatribe ranks up there with any of FDR's speeches, of JFK's, or MLK's, or any one of our famous historic leaders from our past.

                  Can we get this printed on a stone tablet and placed on some mountaintop somewhere for posterity?  

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                  • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 6:01 pm ET)
                       

                    Tommy, I started reading it, then thought, screw it I'll wait for the movie.

                    The Greatest Story Tex Ever Told

                    Coming soon to Moonbat Theaters everywhere.

                    Tommy, I'm really worried about Tex. Day after day writing these grand manifestos that nobody but we here at MMFA get to read...How about tonight we rescue the guy from his Mommy's basement...

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                    • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 6:08 pm ET)
                         

                      If we could manage to condense it into a few words on the plight of victimhood and how Tex rides in on his white horse to save mankind, it could be the 11th Commandment.

                      For now, it's just more "Tex"-as sized liberal lala land.

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                      • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 7:00 pm ET)
                           

                        Tex rides in on his white horse to save mankind

                        Excellent idea Tommy, but I hear Tex is insisting on riding in on a jackass. Somehow that's more fitting isn't it?

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            • Author by Harlequin (July 12, 2007 1:32 pm ET)
                 

              so JETER, who is MMFA leaving out ? - tex / Thursday July 12, 2007 08:34:41 AM EST

              The above is a simple question, but when you look at Jeter2's response it is a lot of verbiage but no answer. Tommy chimes in to add more verbiage to Jeter2's verbiage and doesn't even help out Jeter2 by coming up with an answer.

              How pathetic that two bright Conservative males can't even come up with a simple answer to a simple question. But it was fun to watch them explode.

              It is sad to see that one guy out all the media talking heads is willing to call a spade a spade. That is sad indeed and meanwhile the Conservatives are still running around screaming there are millions of Olbermans out there taking over the air waves, but who needs prove when you're a Conservative.

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              • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 2:42 pm ET)
                   

                I would say it's some liberals such as Tex and those desperately defending him, who can't stop whining about the unfair treatment they endlessly receive from everyone from CNN and Fox to the cashier in their local drug store, who are the ones close to an explosion and meltdown over this.

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              • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 3:30 pm ET)
                   

                Harley baby the *answer* is right there in my post. We both know you see it. We both know you'd never admit it.

                So what else is new?

                 

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                • Author by Harlequin (July 12, 2007 5:02 pm ET)
                     

                  Tommy and Jeter2,

                  I feel for you two. You guys can't even tell the difference between your own writing over that of a cat walking across the keyboard.

                  The question was who else on the boob tube besides Olberman is pointing out the lunacy of the Conservative bovine excrement?

                  Ever since John F Kennedy got elected you Conservatives have been screaming liberal academia, liberal media, liberal government, liberal lemonade stands and all we ask is a simple question which is where is this so called liberal take over.

                  Conservative think tanks has a 9 billion dollar donation to play with. Do you know what good you can do with 9 billion dollars? But what do you do? You swing the country to the right and drive this country off the cliff. As this country is heading towards the bottom you Conservatives say, "stay the course".

                  Conservatives are the ones that came up with three fourths of a man, a piece of paper is a person. Have you ever read a ruling by a Conservative judge?

                  The "wall of seperation between church and state" is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandonded. - A Conservative judgeP.S don't be cruel to your cat I know Conservatives like doing stuff like that.

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                  • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 5:15 pm ET)
                       

                    I think when conservatives came up with three fourths of a man, they had to have meant some  liberals with half a brain?

                    Other than that, your rambling post left wishing for a fifth of vodka.

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                  • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 5:22 pm ET)
                       

                    The question was who else on the boob tube besides Olberman is pointing out the lunacy of the Conservative bovine excrement?

                    Who else is reporting that O'Reilly contradicts himself daily? Probably very few. It's not important.

                    Who else is reporting the lunacy that is the Iraq War, the lies surrounding it & all the other many gaffes, missteps & lies of the Bush administration? Practicably everybody! It is important.

                    Get the difference Harl?

                    Try turning on a TV, radio, open a newspaper, a magazine, cruise the internet then come back and tell me Conservative MIS-information isn't being reported.

                    If you claim it isn't...you are a liar.

                    You & Tex just can't see [or admit] the difference between the lame vs the important.

                    I feel for ya Harley...it must be tough living in a Moonbat world.

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                    • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 5:39 pm ET)
                         

                      J,

                      The irony is just how Fox News trumps up and highlights nutcases from the far left as examples of mainstream liberalism to make their purely partisan points, Tex and Harley and some others relish in the same silliness when it comes to their side - putting up unimportant trivialities to make their case.

                      Yet they diss Fox for doing the exact mirrored thing they do themselves.......now that's hysterical.

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                      • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 5:48 pm ET)
                           

                        Yet they diss Fox for doing the exact mirrored thing they do themselves.......now that's hysterical.

                        Exactly Tommy. Of course they don't quite get it, so I guess we'll just have to remind them from time to time.

                        But I am happy that Tex has found a playmate. He & Harley can commiserate, pontificate, then go out for a pony ride ;-)

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            • Author by tex (July 12, 2007 4:51 pm ET)
                 

              JETER:

              A simple, "You're right, I can't name any other media outlet doing what Olbermann does in exposing rightwing disinformation" would have sufficed, and saved you whole lot of tap-dancing.

              Needless to say, the "point" or allegation about Olbermann and MMFA you tried to make is DESTROYED by your inability to show where MMFA gives Olbermann any "special" attention. As you demonstrate, he's the ONLY one out there doing this work.

              Sometimes you guys make this too easy. 

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              • Author by tommy (July 12, 2007 5:02 pm ET)
                   

                Tex,

                Perhaps the amount of "rightwing disinformation" is so slight that Olbermann needs a ridiculous filler for his program for two minutes and this is the best he can do.  Who else would bother with such nonsense?

                As for him not receiving "special" attention here, ya right, even you can't spin that in your favor.....for you to push that only lowers your ever sinking credibility more to reasonable people. But you remain the torchbearer here for your brethren, good job!

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              • Author by jeter2 (July 12, 2007 5:03 pm ET)
                   

                Nice try cowboy.

                As I pointed out only a deaf, dumb, blind man could deny that the important stuff gets out there.

                As per usual, you are that deaf, dumb, blind man.

                But thanks for playing...

                 

                 

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                • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 11:13 pm ET)
                     

                  Who appointed you and Tommy the deciders of what is important?

                  Do you think it's unimportant that ORielly has 6 or 7 million viewers drinking his KoolAid each night as he dishes out misinformation?

                  Are you aware that about 70% of those who admit to getting their news from FOX believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11 ?

                  I accept that you and I may have a difference of opinion concerning what is important.  But, if it's important enough to air, it must be important enough to get it right.

                  I would hope that we all can agree on a requirement of accuracy from those who deliver the message--whatever that message may be.  When mistakes are made, and they will be, retractions should be implimented.  But to dismiss misinformation, contradictions, and doublespeak as unimportant is a cop out.  I am suprised at Jeter2 concerning this--Tommy, not so much. 

                  It's time to admit that you're wrong about this one and move on to the next one--if it's important enough for you.

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                  • Author by jeter2 (July 13, 2007 8:42 am ET)
                       

                    Rick, I like you. You're usually a pretty fair guy, whether we agree on an issue or not.

                    I do find it telling however that you are asking me to admit being wrong here when you have yet to acknowledge I was correct about Mike Malloy. No matter, I've gotten used to presenting facts/proof on issues only to have those that demanded them slink away instead of saying: 'Oh sorry jeter, you were right'

                    Did you read my posts to Tex or just skim them & concentrate on Tex's posts?

                    Here's a summation of my argument [not that you'll read it, acknowledge it or admit I have a point]

                    Tex is claiming only Olbermann reveals Conservative MIS-information. I'm saying that's B.S.

                    While it's true the MSM doesn't cover every misstep, contradiction, or lie of an O'Reilly or Limbaugh, they have in fact covered the more egregious missteps, contradictions & lies of the Bush administration. The problem here is that you & others only go by the threads offered here by MMFA as to those that don't.

                    The Olbermann threads here are redundant. They simply repeat what MMFA has already highlighted.

                    This is Brock's site & he can do as he pleases. But since he allows us to comment, then I & others will continue to do so.

                    I offer no apology, because in this instance Tommy & I are correct.

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                  • Author by tex (July 13, 2007 10:12 am ET)
                       

                    THE RICK:

                    Tommy and Jeter HAVE to define the terms, like "important", because they need all-purpose QUALIFIERS to disguise their lack of substance.

                    I'll show you how it works. The wife has accused you of not doing chores around the house. You protest, saying: "What are you talking about? I do all the IMPORTANT chores!"

                    The wife says, "You don't do dishes, you don't do laundry, you don't sweep or vacuum."

                    You: "That's not IMPORTANT stuff. I only do IMPORTANT stuff. Can you name anything IMPORTANT I don't do?"

                    The wife says, "You don't help with the kids, you don't do the lawn, you don't do the bills."

                    You: "Still waiting for you to name something IMPORTANT I don't do ..."

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                    So, you see how it works. As long as you define the TERMS, there is no WAY that anyone can contradict your claim. Tommy and Jeter NEED such "qualifiers", because they got NOTHING. 

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            • Author by wethepeople (July 12, 2007 9:12 pm ET)
                 

              Jeter 2- why slam Tex, MM, and Keith O here? If your so dissatisfied with what media matters posts for CONSERVATIVE misinformation, then start your own site, log, etc.

              I don't see the purpose or value in attacking what Media Matters does on their site. They obviously have an audience including myself, who does appreciate, understand, and value their work.

              If they were printing misinformation that was being regurgitated by the mainstream media..well then that would be another story.

              I have seen many many posts by Media Matters on the New York Times and Washington Post, two the supposed most liberal newspapers in America. ( and many more "liberal" newspapers. Not to mention CNN and MSNBC (Keith's home base) two of the most so-called liberal cable "news" channels.

              Just check out the home page now.

              So you don't like KO and his mocking of BO's absurd statements. Don't watch, don't read about it. Goes away quite simply then.

              There is no media "saturation" of what KO covers in his newscasts. I'm watching Countdown now... who is going to cover Bush's "yeah someone in the White House probably did leak the CIA operative, time t move on."

              The White House changing/fudging the report of "progress in Iraq. Where's that in the news?

              Al Qaeda has reconstituted it's ability to attack to pre 9-11 days in Pakistan and the Iraq war Bush launched has been the biggest recruitng tool for Al Qaeda. Hmmm, actually looking at causes of AL qaeda;s resurgence in relation to this administration's war of choice. Oh yeah, that's reported everywhere. 

              How the nation's Attorney General has thumbed his nose ( or middle finger) at the Constitution, and how the Executive Branch has taken the law into it's own hands.

              And much more in one hour. With interviews you can hear. Not to mention a commentary on "gut feelings" we will be attacked. Yeah.

              Tex made great points. If you've outgrown this site, then again why do you waste your time here?

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    • Author by easygoer002209 (July 11, 2007 8:01 pm ET)
         

      I can't take guys like Oreilly and Rush seriously, but I'm always amazed that millions DO take them seriously.  Hyperbole...propaganda.

       

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      • Author by djasper2761 (July 11, 2007 9:29 pm ET)
           

        A few years ago these guys had a mind-meld with bush. They all stuck their heads up baby bushes A....   They are still in the "fog" .Freaking-outragious-garbage.

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    • Author by oscar the grouch (July 11, 2007 8:08 pm ET)
         

      Oldermann's back!!!! MMFA is delighted!!!! (I'm sure Oldermann is, he's been out of the spotlight here for so long, his tan is fading.)

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      • Author by neondesert (July 11, 2007 9:19 pm ET)
           

        Is there something behind the "olderman" play on words?  'Cause I'm not gettin' it... 

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        • Author by tex (July 12, 2007 8:42 am ET)
             

          NEONDESERT:

          If you "don't get" the play on Olberman's name ... "olderman" ... then obviously you spent little time in grade school recess. Making fun of names is a favorite of schoolyard "bullies", and the reason behind it is simply cruelty, an attempt to belittle, and a false sense of "cleverness".

          The only thing to "get" is that the practice is silly, childish, pointless, baseless, and merely an attempt at being cruel (which falls flat when there is no little girl to make cry). It's also apparently a habit low-self-esteem bullies cannot get over ... as Limbaugh is a prime offender of the practice. 

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          • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 11:07 am ET)
               

            You mean Limpball ?

            [sorry, couldn't resist]

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            • Author by neondesert (July 12, 2007 3:08 pm ET)
                 

              "Limpball" I get - adapting his name to his exploits with viagra and dominicans.

              But Keith's not really "older", is he?  Nope, I still don't get it.  And I'm the 12-year-old-butt-pun type of guy...

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          • Author by Taz (July 13, 2007 7:14 am ET)
               

            Making fun of names is a favorite of schoolyard "bullies", and the reason behind it is simply cruelty, an attempt to belittle, and a false sense of "cleverness".

            You mean like your hero Olbermann referring to Ann Coulter as Coultergeist?

            The hypocrisy around here is hilarious.

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            • Author by jeter2 (July 13, 2007 8:50 am ET)
                 

              You mean like your hero Olbermann referring to Ann Coulter as Coultergeist?

              Score!

              Good one Taz! Seems Tex forgot about that one while delivering his lecture.

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              • Author by tex (July 13, 2007 10:22 am ET)
                   

                TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

                Word play with names is Childish, silly, and unfunny no matter WHO does it.

                Olbermann would do well to stop the practice with Coulter and any others he targets. It's enough to accurately reproduce their own words.

                In my opinion, it's a sad stoop to the level of the average rightwing "commentator", and he should apologize and swear off doing it. It would clean up his act, and put the proper shame on those who continue the practice.

                How about a "special commentary", Keith? It would be a hit. 

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        • Author by oscar the grouch (July 12, 2007 3:19 pm ET)
             

          NeonDesert, you seem to have no problem with me and others using Bull OhReally?, RashL, Shamity, NoFacts, TweetyBird, Michael the Savage, etc, but to bestow an other than proper name on your star, KO(d), and you act like its the end of the world.  Could (and may in the future), come up with something worse than Oldermann, like Chimpy, Darth Cheney, etc.  If that happens, you will be among the first to know. Want me to lay off Oldermann, get the rest to lay off those others mentioned above.

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          • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 11:20 pm ET)
               

            I guess I was wrong about that typo thing.

            [shruggs shoulders again]

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            • Author by oscar the grouch (July 13, 2007 12:47 am ET)
                 

              Nah, I figured a couple of years ago that since we are all (at least the biggest majority), go be "stage names" that stage names were ok for our targets. And Oldermann is out for me, its now KO(D) for Keith Olbermann (Democrat) (or something else if you want to be offended). Have a good evening/night.

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    • Author by Harlequin (July 11, 2007 8:27 pm ET)
         

      Bill O'Reilly has to hold the title for being the worst person.

      We have the head of Homeland Security announce he has a gut feeling we might be attacked. This gut feeling is fine with Bill-O.

      Given the gut feeling and Bill-O being okay with it we have reduced ourselves to third grade level.

      One would think after pouring billions of dollars into Homeland Security there would be more professionalism than gut feeling.

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      • Author by djasper2761 (July 11, 2007 9:34 pm ET)
           

        60 odd years ago barb bush had a gut feeling and look how that turned out. Too bad it wasn't just gas. Wait a minute... it was gas and baby bush followed.

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    • Author by jonny (July 12, 2007 5:45 am ET)
         

      Toad 1, Toad 2. Puuuuuuke.

      Toad 2: even Toad 2's MONKEYS (dittoheads) were wonderin' what was the deal with the Viagra & the Dominican Republic. WTF ya DOIN', Rushbo?

      I'll clue ya in. The Dominican Republic is the Western Hemisphere's Bangkok. It's THE  Western Hemisphere center for child prostitution. Rich perverts fly in for a hotsy-totsy weekend of porkin' kiddies. Sickie-sick; big money.

      ANYBODY confused about Limbaugh's DR tickets & his fistful of Viagra? 'Scuse me, but does 2 + 2 = 3??

      Question is now -- are ALL right-wingers repulsive perverts? And if not, why do they DEFEND repulsive perverts? Is ideology more important than kids' lives? How SICK do you need to be to DEFEND this ugly ideology??   

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      • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 11:13 am ET)
           

        I think your being just a little harsh.  Not all right wingers are repulsive perverts.

        However, it may be true that all repulsive perverts are right wingers.

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    • Author by ke4eao6689 (July 12, 2007 8:31 am ET)
         

      You guys celebrate Keith Olbermann like he's some sort of God or something. He is a PIECE of EXCREMENT. But, you people wouldn't believe that if he told you himself. If George Bush were on national TV and you could clearly see that the whitehouse was on fire and he said "The whitehouse is on fire!!", you wouldn't believe it. What a bunch of political drones. 

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      • Author by michael.franco3237 (July 12, 2007 10:44 am ET)
           

        And KO(how appropriate) is going to save Monday Night Football.  Thats like resurrecting the dead.

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      • Author by Little Umbrellas (July 12, 2007 11:10 am ET)
           

        Excrement...huh huh good one... really makes your argument succinct. Duhhhhhh....we're just drones...duhhhhhhhh....poopy...duuhhhhhhhh....

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      • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 11:11 am ET)
           

        Yeah, and George W. Bush could rape a 9 year old boy on the front lawn of the White House and you'd figure out a way to defend him.

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        • Author by therick (July 12, 2007 11:16 am ET)
             

          I can hear it now: "The boy deserved it."

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          • Author by halfaworldaway (July 13, 2007 10:05 pm ET)
               

            no he didnt deserve it but there was somthing about the situation that he deserved you know not being in school while getting raped 

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    • Author by michael.franco3237 (July 12, 2007 10:40 am ET)
         

      Rush and BO's memories are as long as their di**s.  One needs Viagra the other needs to harass women over the phone.  They are interchangable.

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