O'Reilly named "Worst Person" over Media Matters "assassins" remarks
On Countdown, Keith Olbermann named Bill O'Reilly the "winner" of his nightly "Worst Person in the World" segment for calling Media Matters "assassins" who smear people with whom they disagree through The New York Times and NBC News.
During the September 6 edition of MSNBC's Countdown, host Keith Olbermann named Fox News host Bill O'Reilly the "winner" of his nightly "Worst Person in the World" segment for, as Media Matters for America documented, calling Media Matters "assassins" who smear people with whom they disagree through The New York Times and NBC News. Olbermann stated: "But our winner -- oh, he's back from vacation. Bill-O, ripping the, quote, 'assassins' of the, quote, 'fringe element centered around an outfit called Media Matters. They have two primary mainstream media outfits to get their defamation out. That's The New York Times and NBC News.' "
As Media Matters has documented (here, here, here, and here), Olbermann frequently names O'Reilly in his "Worst Person" segment. On his August 27 program, Olbermann named O'Reilly the "runner-up" for falsely asserting that "most journalists give money to Democrats," apparently referring to an MSNBC report on journalists' political donations, which showed that far less than 1 percent of all journalists give money to Democrats.
Additionally, Olbermann awarded Colorado radio host "Gunny" Bob Newman the "bronze" for attacking Olbermann and MSNBC during the September 4 broadcast of his program for not airing Freedom's Watch advertisements supporting the Iraq war, as Colorado Media Matters documented. Olbermann stated: "The bronze to lunatic-fringe radio host 'Gunny' Bob Newman of KOA in Denver, demanding the NBC networks run these so-called Freedom's Watch commercials, the ones that insist more Americans must be killed in Iraq. 'MSNBC is the network,' he says, 'of the far-left, anti-American hate merchant Keith Olbermeinkampf.' "
As Media Matters noted, Olbermann named Newman the "winner" of the "Worst Person" segment on August 3 for mischaracterizing comments that retired Gen. Wesley Clark had made on the July 26 edition of Countdown.
From the September 6 edition of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann:
OLBERMANN: The bronze to lunatic-fringe radio host "Gunny" Bob Newman of KOA in Denver, demanding the NBC networks run these so-called Freedom's Watch commercials, the ones that insist more Americans must be killed in Iraq. "MSNBC is the network," he says, "of the far-left, anti-American hate merchant Keith Olbermeinkampf."
He says he's been a guest on this network, but, quoting again, "I will never do so again unless MSNBC changes its policy and allows both sides of this argument to be heard. They do that, they call me again, fine."
Hey, Bob, don't spend your lonely nights sitting by the phone. It ain't going to ring. Also, by the way, just to add to your evidently weak knowledge of 20th-century history, the guy who wrote Mein Kampf was a right-winger like yourself.
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But our winner -- oh, he's back from vacation. Bill-O, ripping the, quote, "assassins" of the, quote, "fringe element centered around an outfit called Media Matters. They have two primary mainstream media outfits to get their defamation out. That's The New York Times and NBC News."
You know what this is about, right? The NBC News part? Remember the ratings he used to boast about? How his show would beat Countdown 5- or 6-to-1 or more, how I'd be fired by January, last January? The last two nights since Bill-O got back from vacation, Tuesday, viewers age 25 to 54, Bill-O, 440,000, Countdown, 367,000. Last night, Bill-O, 442,000, Countdown, 389,000.
Bill, hope you enjoyed it while it lasted. Bill Orally, today's "Worst Person in the World!"
Of course he did, in the world of Olbermann you can not be critical of the people who give you your material .
Doncha just love that Keith ? I do !!!
I think that what BO is complaining about is the well established connection between MMFA and George Soros funded activist/attack groups.
Still, KO's anger is probably (in part) a reaction to getting clobbered in the ratings by Michelle Malkin when she guest hosted the "Factor"...
Yeah it is sad when he can not even beat Malkin. I am so tired of Olbermann and OReilly , frankly I think most people are.
Please do not equate the two. I am not a big Olbermann fan, but he is ten times the journalist O'Reilly could ever hope to be.
Sadly as long as Olbermann continues this feud the two will always be equal in my eyes.
Olbermann Bo "Feud?"
Hardly. KO has nothing but disdain for BO. He simply reports the outrageous attacks, misstatements and lies BO makes on a regular basis. I mean who can believe the air time this air brain gets? It's a sad commentary on ignorance in America...
It's long overdue that someone like Olbermann call out Bill-O for his idiocy. KO does it mostly in an amusing manner, except when BO really hacks him off, like when he blamed the abducted young boy held hostage by a sex predator for his predicament and even insinuated he "enjoyed" it. Yep, that's the quality commentary one gets from BO.
KO also quoted Geraldo Rivera slamming Michelle Malkin- it was great.
I am glad you think that is the way cable news should now be. petty attacks and he said this , that. How I miss the days of CNN being the sole network news outlet.
Jlyons- It's more than a culture of petty attacks, it's vicious attacks with Malkin and Oreiley one of the many in the pack of wolves.
I applaud KO for calling them out. All he does is quote them. He doesn't have to make it up.
Calling out to who though? By this time OReilly fans will stay with him and Keith fans stay with him. It will not change anything . It is a better service for these networks to report the news vs. the childish games. Just my opinion.
Well interesting opinion. Actually I think MORE viewers are watching KO because they appreciate his take on the talking head blowhards that pollute the airwaves, and I think Less folks are watching Oreilly because their ears have started to bleed with his lunatic ravings.
That's my opinion, and it gives me hope for a paradigm shift in the main stream media. Actual reporting...maybe. Actual editorial commentary and opinions based on fact. Possibly.
Your opinion is respected and valid. Thank you.
your opinion, on the other hand, is not valid. keith is not a serial misinformer like o'reilly. they are not "equal".
Most of Keith's broadcast is news about important issues. The time he spends on Billo and other neocon blowhards is usually limited to his "worst person in the world" segment. (3 or 4 minutes?) The purpose of this segment is similar to that of this website, to call out lies and misinformation.
Great comment, wethepeople, I am so proud of Keith Olbermann, who is the ONLY newscaster on the air these days who has the courage to speak up against those in power, and their minions, of whom Bill Orally counts himself. His special commentary on the diabolical actions of this administration over the past six years are inspirational, and I only wish that other newscasters would have the courage to speak out similarly. I won't hold my breath. As Keith's ratings show, people are moving in droves over to MSNBC to hear what he has to say because they know he speaks the truth, with passion and for the love of this country. If you measured the intelligence of all of those right-wing hate talkers collectively, it would be but a fraction of the intelligence that Keith Olbermann brings to his broadcasts every day. Keep telling it like it is Keith, we're behind you all the way, and thanks!
"Sadly as long as Olbermann continues this feud..."
Write a message to O'Reilly then. When he stops the lies --calling people "assasins", for instance--, then there won't be your O'Reilly-instigated "feud" anymore.
I am not a big Olbermann fan, but he is ten times the journalist O'Reilly could ever hope to be.
Just because you're not a fan doesn't mean you have to insult him by saying he's only 10 times the journalist O'Reilly is. =)
O'Reilly is a journalist?
The polite and measured folks at Media Matters are no more "assassins" than O'Reilly is a journalist. (Unless 'assassin' = effective counter to conservative falsehoods and media misinformation.)
PJT- SNAP!
Now that Olbermann has just about caught up to O'Reilly in the ratings (for two nights), I wonder if he will start getting more equal media coverage. My local TV columnist almost never mentions him, not even when Olbermann is delivering one of his "Special Comments." But he mentions O'Reilly -- where he is broadcasting from and who is guests will be -- rather often.
8PM - P2+ (25-54)O’Reilly Factor- 2,361,000 viewers (429,000)Out in the Open – 547,000 viewers (123,000)Countdown w/ Olbermann – 763,000 viewers (310,000)Fast Money –159,000 viewers (a scratch with 47,000)Nancy Grace – 625,000 viewers (171,000)
http://insidecable.blogsome.com/category/ratings/
Sue, the problem with those figures are that advertisers don't base their rates on overall figures. Advertisers pay more for airtime to shows that have more viewers age 25-54. The 25-54 croud is known as "The Money Demographic." Reason being--older folks don't buy much of what is advertised.
As the item shows, KO is slightly behind BO in that demo, and has steadily been climbing for quite a while now. Keith's show is making good money. My guess is he'll be around for a long time after O'Reilly has been booted.
Reason being--older folks don't buy much of what is advertised.
I'm not sure, but I think it's more because older folks have made up their minds and are less likely to be swayed to trying a new product instead of the one they've used for forty years. The Money Demo is still shopping around.
That, and young guys tend to toss their money around like idiots when a cutie smiles at 'em or to get a cutie to smile at 'em. =)
I agree. In other words-- I'll buy that.
It's shocking that anyone over the age of 12 would think that this Oberclown has anything useful to say about ANYTHING.
His halftime gimmick on NBC is a complete waste of time. He's an arse. And NBC should be ashamed of itself: or use Limbaugh instead.
And NBC should be ashamed of itself: or use Limbaugh instead. Checkers
Checkers, sorry there is only a small portion of the population (please include yourself) willing to have their ears bleed listening to Rush. Due to the health of this nation we cannot afford to have people going blind looking at him too.
You get to keep him to your self on your very own radio THANK GOD!
The only reasonable use for Rushing-down-the-drug-addiction-mountain has is as an object of ridicule. They could use him in one of those commercials saying this is your brain then show Rush saying one of the really ignorant things that constitute his staple and say THIS is your brain on drugs and rightwing propaganda. Mission accomplished
Wow... KO almost catches up with BO in one demographic and the left/libs are all salivating - well, at least if the libs think that they have some success in cable they will probably not try to get the government to regulate it out of existence, they way they are going to try to do with Limbaugh and talkradio.
John, I hope there are not really 638 of you as your name suggests, all thinking that some liberals somewhere want to regulate away your righty talkers.
If you really read what other people post here with an open mind, and not just interested in some stupid game of "gotcha," you will find that no one is advocating any such thing as you suggest.
If most people were tired of KO by now, why do his numbers keep going up? Speak for yourself. You mean YOU are tired of him. And the funny thing is that you come to a liberal website for support.
John,
Please provide evidence of this well established connection.
I would like to know how some organizations acquire the "non-profit" status.
It's a tax code designation, I believe. You file a form, and then probably file regular statements of where donations come from and the ways the donations are used.
Ko's anger?! Ha ha HAA! You guys really miss the point and why are you here?
I like those Olbermann numbers!...
Go Keith!
Keith is almost equal with O'Crapbag.
Personally I don't care if someone is left or right as much as they have, at least, some semlance of a grasp of the issues. However, this UberClown is not one of them. He's a buffoon.. Or better yet, a QUAFFOON. If he has good ratings, then good for him. Let him lead his sychophants to the promised land of those who would do us harm.
WE'LL GO AND SAVE THEM AFTER THEY'VE SUFFERED JUST A LITTLE BIT SO THEY'LL KNOW NOT TO LISTEN TO SUCH A FOOL AS UBERCLOWN THE NEXT TIME THEY GET SUCKERED IN BY A MEDIA HACK.
I also dont care if someone is leftwing or rightwing. As long as they have some dim concept of reality. However you are a moron. People should be protected from the loss of IQ points caused by reading the stupidity of your posts. So basically I see you the way you see Olbermann
--"established connection between MMFA and George Soros"--
That's one in a series of O'Reilly false claims that has been debunked here ---several times---, and only yesterday, most recently.
Of course, that won't stop right-wing parrots from saying it because they wish it were so.
No he isnt and you dont think that at all troll. You just want to take this off the topic which is. Why does Billy O'falafel lie so darn much?
John,
I posted before I saw your second post, so I'll re-phrase.
Please provide some credible evidence of the connection.
I've got a lot more - but can you at least deal with the specifics already provided?
The connection between Soros, MMFA, Brock, and even the defunct AirAmerica radio seems pretty clear.
John,
There are no specifics to deal with. You cite articles from two debunked right wing rags.
Get me some mainstream or even credible information and then we can have a discussion.
For the record, I wouldn't care if George Soros funded MMFA, that doesn't change anything and I wonder why you call him a nutjob. Do you know anything about him?
What MORE you have as yet never put ANYTHING in any single post you have ever made.
It wouldn't matter what evidence JohnT came up with, we are obviously at odds with what is and is not credible. He is right, though, you all do bristle, and you never explain why....
"It wouldn't matter what evidence JohnT came up with, we are obviously at odds with what is and is not credible."--DoughPro
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Demonstrate how we bristle, please? Few links, perhaps?
Regressives have declared Soros their ideological boogey man, and somehow in the minds of regressives, anyone linked to him is inherently evil.
No proof of this, and despite efforts to demonstrate certain links (over and over) failure to do so.
So the question isn't "Why do we bristle?" when we don't, but rather, "Why the regressive obsession?"
The obvious question is what do Soros and Arnold Schwarzenneger have in common? Nothing! One was in a concentration camp (soros) and one was the son of a Nazi. But the right gives Ahhnold a pass. Guess they like that inbred hate...
I didn't bristle. I'd be happy if he supported MMFA.
My question is why do you call him a nutjob, since you obviously know nothing about him?
Skeptical- Soros must be part of the "gay mafia" agenda. This is one of the most puzzling non-stories I've seen come out of the flying monkeys behinds.
Fact- Soros does nor fund Media matters as they have reported and made their records public over and over again.
But for some reason the O'relley's and cybernet nut "news" places want to keep "pushing" this and making Soros out to be evil. In fact Oreilly claimed on his radio show that Soros wanted to take over the worked.
And his listeners/viewers still don't KNOW the creature is delusional?
It's really too rich. A billionaire in a capitalistic society who dains to support progressive causes. And the right wingers yell "Hang the man" and try and paint all that is progressive and truth in the same dastardly color.
Oh, it makes one's head hurt or sides split...
Yeah, he is a real man with ethics. Give me a f--ing break. The guy broke the bank of England, was prosecuted for insider traiding in France.
ASEAN for welcoming Myanmar as a member. Later, he called Soros a moron.[10] Thai nationals have called Soros "an economic war criminal" who "sucks the blood from the people".[11]
Who cares if Soros funds MMFA, the point is that MMFA is alive and well and refuting the crap that is being put out by the right-wing nut, facscist propaganda crap funded by Murdoch. Fox lawyers recently argued tha lying about the news is okay because it is free speech.
Well it may be protected speech, but it ain't free pal. So heres a thought - kiss MMFA'a Arse and go back to the Kool Aid.
We don't. It's conservatives who are making Soros out to be some kind of evil mastermind.
Even if Soros were backing MMFA (and there's no proof of that), so the f**k what? It's not a crime to donate money to a non-profit organization. No one has accused Soros of doing anything illegal. So why, exactly, is this all such a big deal to you?
Why don't YOU explain what the implications would be if Soros DID fund an operation? You're the one with the accusations. Back 'em up.
As for the "article" you provided, I pointed out yesterday when you linked to that slop that the only "proof" the article offered was that MMFA did NOT say they were NOT funded by a Soros funded operation.
As I pointed out then, I never point out that I don't receive money from space aliens when people ask where I work. Does that mean I am funded by space aliens?
I personally don't care - my only issue is why MMFA denies the truth.
Still waiting for you to provide some "truth".
So, if you don't care, why do you keep beating it to death?!? What are you 16, 17, years old?
I personally don't care - my only issue is why MMFA denies the truth.
In other words, "I've got nuthin'."
Close you mean your issue is why does MMFA KEEP providing the truth. Not that you would know the truth if it took a leak on your boot.
Too funny! The only person making a big deal out of it is O'Reilly and you. Don't you have anything better to do than wonder out loud who's giving money to who?
"I have never known why libs bristle when they linked to George Soros."
Right-wingers are the ones who bristle, not "libs".
Rosie O'Dumbell, Sean Penncilhead, Ted Kennedy, Dennis Kucinich, Gravel, ....are bristlers.
Remember Shillary's bristling, " we have the right to disagree with ANY administration."
And so on....
That isnt bristling it is a plain statement of FACT. Teddy Roosevelt said to say you must support the President, that we must support him right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile it is morally treasonable to the American public. I say you should STOP being unpatriotic servile and morally treasonable
JOHNTORRES:
If you could PROVE that Soros funds MMFA ... and you cannot ... this would only be red meat for your fellow believers in Soros being SATAN.
Soros has been carefully demonized among the true believers on the Right, much as the term "Liberal" hopes to be a stand-alone rebuttal to all factual content.
"Oh, that's a LIBERAL site", or "Oh, that's SOROS funded" becomes the all-purpose answer to all damning FACTS. With these handy-dandy declarations, there is NO NEED to address any actual charges, reporting, or evidence.
If you could PROVE Soros funds MMFA, what would that matter to anyone else? Nothing. Soros can fund what he wants to fund with his own money (this USED to be a "conservative principle" ... LOL). Nobody cares except the fringe rightwing nutjob conspiracy theorists.
(Oh yeah, the lovers of TRUTH have a problem with you making claims that are not TRUE, and that you cannot back up. Has nothing to do with SOROS, it has to do with your own credibility. i.e., you LIE.)
And I gave money to a used car dealer who paid his pool man who bought girl scout cookies and she bought drugs with the money Does that make me a drug dealer. Back with worthless nonsense I see. If Soros wanted to give MMFA money he would write them a check once he gives money to say CAP its THEIRS to do with as they please and unless you can cough up handwritten instructions of Soros TELLING CAP to give MMFA money ya got nothin and as for your comment about Soros. We smell the jealousy, just because you will never be HALF the man he is you snivel and attack him, you are pathetic
You saw that? Dang!
John: Your sources are bogus, your slip is showing, and why do you bother even posting on Media Matters if you have contempt for the site. it's obvious you don't read the articles. There's a whole big bad world out there, that will embrace the nonsense you spout.
Your just trolling here. I'm sure you have better things to do...
Yes, John. And you also believe Clinton murdered Vince Foster. And we are supposed to take you seriously?
I see Olbermann is doing a "Worst Person in the NFL" during the football games. He picked himself last night for his commentary about Michael Vick which he deemed to be "not well written". So I give him credit for that one, at least making fun of himself once in a while.
If they wanted better ratings the network should have probably hired Michelle Malkin - who just kills KO!
John,
Can you provide those numbers?
I think JohnTorres has run out of feeble tallking points and has degenerated to the Ratings Queen stage.That's where they get all excited that there are large numbers of people as gullible as them.
I also listened to the "defunct Air America" a little bit this morning. Did it used to be a Funk station?
That is such a lie - I have a lot more feeble talking points.
I'm just waiting for more to arrive on my Rush fax line.
John,
Numbers please?
True enough its the one service you perform here. It reminds us that Einstein was right when he said there were only two things that were infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and he wasnt all that sure about the universe
Maybe Fox should replace O'Reilly with Malkin then. As Olbermann pointed out just last night, since O'Reilly's return, Countdown has had impressive numbers in the money demo compared to O'Reilly. And O'Reilly's numbers continue to slip while Countdown's grow. Pretty soon, it's just gonna be you and O'Reilly chatting online about the good ol' days.
Even more indicative of Olbermann's integrity (compared to O'Reilly) was an example from last night's Countdown. A story was air early in the program about some Fox show, I think. (I'm drawing a blank, but it was definitely about Fox, who some here claim Olbermann is "feuding" with.)
Anyway, someone figured out DURING THE AIRING OF THE PROGRAM that the original source of the information was from a satirical site. Olbermann, rather than ignore the situation or make up excuses or blame thel isteners or messengers like O'Reilly, TOOK THE BLAME. Said it was HIS responsibility, it shouldn't have happened, and then he APOLOGIZED TO FOX.
That's called integrity. Some of you regressives might need to look that word up.
I have to give KO a break here. It's really hard to tell the difference between the hard left sites he normally parrots and dumb ass parody sites that abound on the net.
John, you are too funny. Hope you feel better now that you done told everybody that they are worthless and I think, dumbasses. Just another RightHate description of somebody that disagrees with them or won't swallow their B.S.....Add dumbaasses to the list.
Also, when the Senator from Idaho was playing footsies at the airport, I believe they said with John or was it in the John. Same difference I guess.
Signed, A Dumbass Vermin Nazi Soros Lover.
JohnTorrez has never provided facts to prove the manure he's spreading is the chocolate he's trying to sell. I think he must be insane. He keeps doing the same thing expecting different results.
I just call him J-bull. A little play on his name and his manure like postings.
As ignorant as both YOU and O'falafel are its hard for YOU to tell the difference between you ass and a hole in the ground. That isnt our fault those of us with actual functioning cerebral cortexes have no such problem. Just because YOU are unbelieveably stupid dont project YOUR inadequecies on us.
Bittermarv- Yes, KO does have integrity, and I too appreciated his apology and his "buck stops with me" on the process of vetting sources. Beacuse it does.
O' Reiley just makes stuff up as he goes along. It's actually painful. I swear any day his head will explode or his nose will be coming out of a TV screen.
O' Reiley just makes stuff up as he goes along. It's actually painful. I swear any day his head will explode or his nose will be coming out of a TV screen.
I might be swayed to watch THAT. TiVo it for replay. Pay-per-view, even. Burn it to DVD. Post it on youtube!
One can dream...
Actually might happen sooner than we think, BO is becoming more shrill, unhinged, and living in a boogeyman world. His actual meltdown will be spectacular!
John,
Can you say, if I repeat myself often enough then people will believe me?
Proof, we ain't got to show you no stinking proof.
O'Reilly--the worst person? No way! His ludicrous, inane, and insane rants have done more for MMFA than the best PR firms could have done. We should be sending him flowers. Every time he has a snit about the "leftist assassins" here the thread fills up with right wing troll puppies who get their butts kicked from margin to margin. It is good for us because everyone (O'Reilly included) gets to see that Freeperville is full of morons who can't rub two brain cells together to produce an original thought. Does this get to him? You can bet it does--otherwise why would he lavish so much attention on this site. Chill Bill--you are on the verge of a stroke. It is long past time for you to retire. You never had it anyway. You are little more than a low life wielding a luffa. The fact that you get to rant for hours on taxpayer owned bandwidth for hours every week is actually a testament to the putrescent miasm the corporate controlled media has become.
Please tell me what you would all talk about if you didn't have any right-wingnuts in here trying to talk some sense into you?
Non sequitur the wingnuts here NEVER talk sense
Does this mean you are admitting to being a"right wing-nut"? Didn't really mean to offendthe wingnuts. They are an endless source of amusement for us. My comments were addressed to "troll-puppies" and of course O'Reilly. If you are a troll puppy and I have offended you just identify yourself then meet me by the dumpster at the McDonalds: 14TH & U ST NW Washington, DC 20009. Please wear a tinfoil hat so I will know it is you. I will compensate you with some of the money George Soros pays us with. This is not a set up--George always meets us behind that very dumpster with bags of unmarked bills onFriday at 10 pm. He never writes checks--that's why you haven't been able to get the evidence that he actually runs MMFA.
Note that Olby only cited the "key demo" statistics and not the overall numbers.
Also, I've noticed that KO's ratings fluctuate like crazy and are at their height whenever he gives a "Spechul Komment," whereas O'Reilly's tend to hover around the two million mark pretty consistently.
Oh, and for the record, Keith, wearing an O'Reilly mask and giving a Nazi salute doesn't exactly give you moral authority about who is and isn't a "Right-winger"!
Hmmm Damian- another KO fan I see. You really need to actually watch the show. "Key demo stats" are what sponsors care about, and yes Keith has them.
I guess you have the numbers on all this fluctuation? What I know is that KO's ratings are steadily increasing with good reason. But why do you care? You have choices in what you watch, as do the rest of us.
So Not sure what your slamming KO had to do with the article these posts are attached to. Are you defending BO? What's your point?
We the People:
What I know is that KO's ratings are steadily increasing with good reason.
Not true:
While Bathtub boy's numbers shot up last summer, they are flat since October of 2006!
Check out this graph, ignoring the Paula Zahn stuff and the annotations:
www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/paulachartjune192.jpg
The updated numbers are:
July, 2007: 672,000
Aug, 2007: 721,000
Thanks for showing me that Showme. I now understand that you know nothing of graphs regardless of how simple it is.
Look at the months, you have nothing to compare to except June. This shows he's kicking ass. Is he he up or down? No one knows by this graph.
We do know one thing, he's right on O'Reilly's heels. Once O'Reilly has been fired, Keith's ratings will go down a bit, not having a lying idiot to kick around.
The Rick said:
Thanks for showing me that Showme. I now understand that you know nothing of graphs regardless of how simple it is.
Look at the months, you have nothing to compare to except June.
Well, you may think that I know "nothing of graphs", but I at least can read off the values for KO's show going back to June of 2006. Since you can't, I will spoon feed you:
6/06: 363,000
7/06: 388,000
8/06: 426,000
9/06: 474,000
10/06: 616,000 (in the 600,000's)
11/06: 689,000
12/06: 599,000
1/07: 673,000
2/07: 677,000
3/07: 670,000
4/07: 708,000 (cracks the 700,000s)
5/07: 598,000 (just below 600,000)
6/07: 594,000
Like I have said many times, KO's ratings roughly doubled over the summer of 2006, a plateau since then.
MSNBC in May talked of his numbers rocketing. Both MSNBC execs and KO talk about his year-over-year numbers, but, in reality, he has plateaued. Unless something changes, KO will have no more year-over-year numbers to crow about.
Your premise is like saying Christmas sales were up in December and down in July. The number of wiewers rising or falling can only accurately be detirmined by comparing the same months in different years. One of the main thing execs look at when crunching the numbers is comparing 2 or more shows, and analyze whether the gap is closing or opening, such as the graph you linked.
Of course there are seasonal fluctuations, just as there are trends.
At the end of May, MSNBC issued a press release:
http://nbcumv.com/release_detail.nbc/msnbc-20070530000000-msnbcratingscontin.html
In this piece they said:
"Countdown with Keith Olbermann" (8:00 – 9:00 pm ET) continues to rocket up the ratings charts, up 72% in total viewers over a year ago (701,000 v. 408,000)
Fact: 72% increase in total viewers
Lie: "continues to rocket", when you see the graph I posted earlier
ShowMe:
Thanks for the link, I appreciate the time posters take to idenitfy sources. Unfortunatly the chart is not all that germaine to the current numbers.
KO gave his #'s going up, and BO's going down again on Friday night in response to BO's ravings and attacks on MSNBC etc.
That's the trend. Yes, overall BO still has more viewers that KO, but in the key age demographics the gap is closing fast.
As I've stated elsewhere, it gives me hope that viewers can be discerning and can reject a BO's Faux show that has competely lost all crediability, thanks to BO.
We the People:
What you see as recent trends, I see as cherrypicking. I only really look at monthly data, and the monthly data minimizes effects of guest hosts, repeats, other programming.
You are making predictions, as you are free to do, but I tend not to comment on predictions. I do want everyone to have the best available data and thank you for your kind words about my post.
Yes it does! Rubber glue... Sticks and stones... your mama...
Actually I think that the reason that KOs numbers keep going up is that he is the only news personality who is willing to come out and give President Bush and Company the hell they deserve. As more and more people who supported BUSHCO become more and more disillusioned they are tuning in to KO and tuning out the likes of BillO. Don’t have a link so that just my humble opinion.
ITS ABOUT DEM TIME
Media Matters and Keith Olbermann. Like two peas in a pod.
Are stupid and inane comments like that the best you can do? Stop wasting our time.
sure, Bill O is heinous hypocritical and hokey....but Media Matters is hardly the objective watchdog group it would have us believe...
I defy anyone to locate serious thoughtful criticism of any democrat or Democratic notion on this site...it's a joke...if defending Hillary the war monger's every move is progressive, then I'm from another planet....
media matters has no real liberal cred.
RMUTT4, the stated mission of Media Matters is to point out incidences of conservative misinformation in the mainstream - and not so mainstream ("Fox News") - media. It is not to provide "balance" by criticising progressives. But if it's such criticism you want, you'll find it aplenty in these discussions. Unfortunately, it's not very or criticism...
Last line in previous post should read: "Unfortunately, it's not very accurate or useful criticism..."