Beck: "[A] handful of people who hate America ... are losing their homes in a forest fire today"
On the October 22 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, host Glenn Beck stated, "I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today." Beck continued: "There are a few people that hate America. But I don't think the Democrats are those. I think there are those posing as Democrats that are like that." Beck's comment came as forest fires ravaged parts of Southern California, leaving one person dead, four firefighters wounded, and forcing about 1,500 people from their homes, according to The New York Times.
Beck's comment immediately followed his statement that "we're all one America" and "just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you hate America, and I love America. We all love America. We just disagree on how we should function." Beck had been distinguishing his views from those of California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R), who, according to the Financial Times, "has urged Republican presidential candidates to capture the political centre ground ahead of next year's election by focusing on healthcare reform and education." Beck criticized Schwarzenegger's proposed strategy as "not the way to win on any front" and offered the following clarification: "When I say on the air, and I've said it a lot lately, that we need to come together, and we need to get back into the center, we're being pushed on to the edges -- I want you to understand, that is not on policies. I don't mean that we come in the center on policies. We come to the center on principles."
From the October 22 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
BECK: Schwarzenegger came out over the weekend and he said the Republicans need to run to the center and they need to grab the center. And the headline -- I looked at it, and I went "OK, OK, what is this? What is this? Oh, it's Schwarzenegger. I'm probably going to disagree with it." And then I started reading it, and I absolutely disagreed with it. He said they need to start talking about health care and education. That's not the way to win.
Let's talk about health care and education? That's not the way to win. That's not the way to win on any front. I'm not even talking about -- the least I care about is winning the election. How about winning the war? How about saving our country? And, you know, it made me think. I want to make this very clear. When I say on the air, and I've said it a lot lately, that we need to come together and we need to get back into the center, we're being pushed on to the edges -- I want you to understand, that is not on policies. I don't mean that we come in the center on policies. We come to the center on principles. We come back to the center of the melting pot, that we're all one America, that just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you hate America, and I love America. We all love America. We just disagree on how we should function, what we should do, big government, small government. It doesn't mean you hate America. I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.
There are a few people that hate America. But I don't think the Democrats are those. I think there are those posing as Democrats that are like that. But you don't come into the center. You have to stand up for what you believe in.
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I mean, to belittle the deaths and the situation of those caught in this tragedy is worse to me than what coulter said about the 9/11 widows, since the 9/11 widows actually did exploit their husbands' deaths in a way.
one of the predictions of the u.n. intergovernmental panel on climate change is that the american west would become drier and warmer. we are now having lots of fires that were almost unknown years ago, far bigger and hotter. it's discussed in this link. they are killing trees like the ponderosa pine that used to survive smaller fires. but beck insists no problem with global warming.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6983960.stm
Are you going to say the same thing when the Mississippi floods again?
There are fires every year in this area. You build homes on a desert with historically dry weather and high winds, you get fires. God help them and be with them.
same old crap. pretend you didn't read what i said. no one denies that fires are a regular occurence. it's the size and intensity that have greatly increased.
That's not true, at least not yet until it's over and then can be measured in it's totality. Plus, if you build more houses in the same area, the same size fire is going to do more damage, so it's not an even playing field for you to judge.
you're deflecting. it's proven that fires in general are getting far bigger and hotter. i'm not discussing one particular fire in california.
there is also an element of larger fires due to fire suppression in the west, which allows undergrowth to spread. but there is no dispute that fires have become bigger and hotter all over the globe. georgia had record setting fires this spring. greece lost dozens to wildfires this year. the fact is temperatures are becoming hotter and hotter. phoenix had a record number of days over 110 degrees this year. and those higher temperatures dry out foilage and make it tinder dry
So you were just discussing fires in general. I see. I don't think Beck was talking about any other fires.
i'm aware he was discussing the california fire. i commented that he is a global warming denier, while global warming is credited with conditions that are making fires, in general, bigger and hotter. try to process two thoughts in your head at the same time. i know it's difficult.
Hey guys, will you please stick to the topic, rather than go off the tangent? PLEASE??
To stay on-topic...the inanely idiotic thing about Beck's comments is that 99% of the territory covered by the California fires is REPUBLICAN.. I man, mossback, right -wing, dinosaur brained, congressmen like Duncan Hunter, the works.
I know - really - how stupid is Beck? that's orange country tribal republican land out there. plus, his own radio syndication operation is in Sherman Oaks! what a maroon. watch him boo-hoo his way out of this with an "i'm a victim of liberal media smear" tantrum. (rev u the waaahmbulance.) also, georgia is going dust bowl - those red staters must hate america too. the great right-wing crackup continues.
Beck is Stupid, Ignorant, and Dangerous
The fact that he has any audience that listens to this idiot who is making his millions by sputtering such iresponsible, illogical, unfounded hateful remarks that fly in the face of democracy ( yes Beck-o in America we celebrate differences of opinions) is staggering in itself. Anyone with any ability to reflect for a nanosecond on Beck's comments equating Americans losing their homes or lives in a tragic fire, to "hating America" has to know this dude is cracked. Seriously.
We celebrate a difference of opinions, unless we disagree with yours. Were his remarks stupid? Yes. But that tirade you went on was self-defeating.
"That's not true, at least not yet until it's over and then can be measured in it's totality."
Yeah - it's not that big. Just cause you can see it from space...that don't mean nothin'.
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/socal_wildfires_oct07.html
He's saying the fires are getting worse. What you said is like saying "There's no global warming, you have a planet less than nine light minutes from the sun, it's bound to be hot some of the time!"
Hey Glen Beck,
You little bastard! You may have a 1st amendment right to make a complete a$$ of yourself but my sister lives in San Diego County and I take your words personally!
She's a Democrat, so by your pathetic logic, she deserves to lose her house to the fire?
Your lucky that you have that stupid worthless show of yours but if I had a legal opportunity to kick your a$$ I would... clear into next week!
I know that saying this is giving some credibility to Beck but I don't care and in case this ever makes its way to him, I just want to let him know that he's an a$$clown!
Phew, I suddenly feel better.......
<deep breath>
Please note the last few sentences:
"There are a few people that hate America. But I don't think the Democrats are those. I think there are those posing as Democrats that are like that."
He's not saying your sister is the problem, he's saying people who hate America and pose as Democrats are the problem.
"He's not saying your sister is the problem, he's saying people who hate America and pose as Democrats are the problem."
Yeah, the smear merchants don't hate Democrats, they hate people who pose as Democrats. And they don't hate soldiers, they hate people who pose as soldiers. And they dont hate injured poor kids...
Is this a new technique to smear a group while claiming you're actually not?
No... It's just the truth. And two of your examples were about the same "smear merchant."
What is wrong with you, general? You have to smear women who lost their husbands on 9/11 and want an honest investigation??!!!
another faux christian who doesn't believe in the commandment "thou shalt not bear false witness"?
the 9/11 widows actually did exploit their husbands' deaths
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This, much like Beck’s commentary, is a pointless thing to convey. Why exploit other people’s suffering to insult them?It's time for Glenn Beck's TV show to go the way of Rush Limbaugh's Matt Drudge's, and Michael Savage's shows. Cancelled and forgotten.
uhhh i dont know what country you are living in but limbaugh and savage are alive and well. i actually LIKE savage - if you listened to him youd like him to - he ravaged coulter for her anti semitic comments and basically called her a nazi, he hates oreilly, limbaugh and also bush.
drudge closed up shop on his radio show just recently.
I tried, but I couldn't stomach 3 minutes of him let alone every day. But then I stopped listening to talk radio when Paul Harvey went away. This current batch of clowns can't hold a candle to him.
Paul Harvey is still on in my neck of the woods. I literally mean "woods," since I live in Michigan. Paul does a little 15 minutes of right wings soft balls (harmless) between Beck and Limbaugh.
Paul Harvey. I'm from Oklahoma and I grew up with Paul Harvey on the radio. "And now you know ... the rest of the story." In late 2000, Harvey signed a 10-year, $100 million contract with ABC Radio Networks. So where is he now?
Whoops, he used his pulpit to say things like, "we sent men with rifles into Afghanistan and Iraq and kept our best weapons in their silos." I don't remember him being that crazy during my childhood.
According to Wikipedia, Paul Harvey is 89 years old now. I think he's losing it.
They still had TV shows that were cancelled and forgotten. Savage might have lasted longer if he hadnt told a caller to get AIDS and die. Savage is insane. Railing at people for not being rightwing enough and in his paranoia anyone that disagrees with him is a Nazi. I think he Weinerdog might be ok if he would just increase his medication.
To clarify, I was referring to their TV shows - with the exception of Matt Drudge, their radio pukefests go on....
Uh.... no, Gen. Petraeus. I listened to - and DON'T like - Savage. And - of course - he "basically" called Coulter a Nazi, he only freakin' has 5 labels to use. The jackass probably called his toilet seat cover a Nazi this morning.
Weiner only hates Coulter because she said things that he (and the sane people in the world [of which I am not including Weiner]) saw as anti-semitic.
You're either a complete moron, or you haven't listened to weener long enough.
You're either a complete moron, or you haven't listened to weener long enough.
Personally, I can only take Michael Weiner (not sure if it's pronounced "WEE-ner" or "WHINE-er") in very small doses....
That's the point. However it appears that the good General happened to listen to weenie and somehow missed the part where he spews hatred and intolerance.
If so, General, you missed the really good parts of the show.
If you were talking to me, I have never listened to wiener, and I really don't want to. Just from what I have read about him, in various different places.
I do however enjoy torturing myself by listening to Hannity and Mark Levin. I am a glutton for punishment.
Uhhh, we're talking about their TV shows, which are definitely dead.
Yeah...not-so-much.
His ratings waiver...drastically (much like John Kerry's stance on the war);-). In the past week, he has finished in last with 50k viewers, and he has also come in second with 219k (Sheppard Smith consistently taking first...wooot!).
I saw Savage foaming at the mouth and claiming Kucinich was committing treason -TREASON- because when the Iraq war resolution was being debated Kucinich was arguing against war. Savage has never liked the American Constitution if he ever read it.
I don't even know what this means. Can someone please splain this to me?
I agree. What is Beck saying? That because the fire is in Malibu where much of the Hollywood left lives? Incredible, even for Beck.
I don't find it incredible in the least that an incredibly ignorant buffoon can say incredibly incoherent things while belittling the suffering of others. There’s even a name for it; The Glenn Beck Program.
I do design work for a custom manufacturing company and today we have gotten word that several of our most successful southern Cali sales reps are not in the office today because they are busy evacuating and are unlikely to have a house waiting for them when they return.
So does that mean that successful sales rep's hate america? ;)
No. Just the ones who are Liberals.
Liberals just hate idiocy, not America. A concept beyond your capabilities.
Sorry, I didn't see the "sarcasm" flag. lol
No problem. Just remember this: TheRick is a Liberal, a Democrat, and a brillient responder fighting for truth, justice, and the American way. He's good looking and has a great sense of humor too.
THERICK sounds very much like THE TEX.
Sounds like me, too, except that I'm not so "brillient" and that I look like last week's roadkill.
That's ok, but the snoop is a liberal conundrum. He believes in all the same things, likes hunting, hates people who hunt by laying out corn feed until they get their kill, likes firing automatic weapons, hates people who think they need them to hunt with, oh, and I drive a gas guzzling truck but bought a hybrid for my wife and put in all those energy saving lightbulbs, so I figger I broke even there.
I do design work for a custom manufacturing company and today we have gotten word that several of our most successful southern Cali sales reps are not in the office today because they are busy evacuating and are unlikely to have a house waiting for them when they return.
I hope all is well for them. I used to live in Colorado, where wildfires were also quite common.
Tommy,
I don't want to sound hateful, but I say, "Fire him".With real fire!
Seriously? What is it that makes Beck's words less acceptable than Coulter's for you? And besides, if MMfA succeeds in getting Beck fired, where does it end?
I think AA was just taking the opportunity for a facetious play on words and not expressing a real opinion.
Maybe, but usually there's a smiley face attached if he's doing that.
:-) Sorry.
Beck is right on that we don't agree on principle anymore. The thing is, he keeps directing that statement at Democrats when he should be pointing his finger at the republicans who are willing to give up freedom for safety, who violate the constitution like it's a snot rag, and run misguided wars for oil when they say we need to bring terrorism under control and then drop the ball. So in the end, he actually sounded good up front, but was totally off base on the direction.
Isn't it funny that for the last couple of years, when Republicans controlled Congress they often made statements like Becks. It is the equivolent of saying; "we want to compromise, but the Democrats refuse to do things our way." Or the ever popular; "We Republicans don't like the way this country has become so devided, so we reach across the aisle and welcome Democrats to join us."
Beck is right on that we don't agree on principle anymore.
Funny how decades of conservative talk radio demonizing fellow Americans can do that.
Beck actually does criticize the Republicans. He does it on a regular basis.
There you are, Tommy. I don't know if you've evr narrowed down your location more than Westside L.A., but It crossed my mind that one of those Malibu mansions could have been yours.Glad you're OK.
Thanks HBL, No, fortunately for me, I don't live near the fire affected areas, yet. No mansion anywhere for me. Incredibly sad for many here, however.
For Beck to mention the fire in any context other than heartfelt wishes for the firefighters and the residents to escape any injury is pretty hideous.
I'm sure you know we've got some blazing down here behind the Orange Curtain, too. I have a good friend who lives in Santiago Canyon, he's a little tense.Also two co-workers, one has a cabin at Lake Arrowhead, the other's mother lives there, and they're getting close to evacuating.
I feel really bad for complaining yesterday about the soot on my balcony and my burning eyes and nose.I'm a dick.
My boss's brother lives in Lake Arrowhead. He's afraid he's lost his house.
BTW, they're strong conservatives. Yet somehow, I can find it in my heart to recognize their tragedy. that must be why I don't have my own TV show.
For Beck to mention the fire in any context other than heartfelt wishes for the firefighters and the residents to escape any injury is pretty hideous.
Now you know why so many of us can't stand Glenn Beck.
I don't even know what this means. Can someone please splain this to me?
Thanks Tommy and Buyavowel. I'm wondering who are these America haters that pretend to be Democrats? They are not democrats, but their houses are burning. Are there republicans, independents or communists with expensive homes in Malibu that hate America, but claim to be dems?
We are all Americans so we shouldn't hate them?
Pardon my expression, but this is brain vomit from the master of same.
I think Glenn Beck is explaining his position on forest fires. He's for them.
1) Beck is an idiot
2) He is making a really stupid reference to the collapse of the sub prime mortgage market as a "forest fire". Stupid thing to say when 250,000 people are being evacuated.
I'm sorry, I just listened to the audio, and he is just blathering. What he says makes no sense, there is no way to explain his targetless ramblings.
I don't watch his show, but from this transcript I totally agree with you. What he said made no sense; it was pretty incoherent but obviously he wanted to attack someone.
I don't even know how to discuss this, except to say that he sounds like he's nuts.
It is on par for the talking heads though. Remember what they said about the Katrina victims, how it was their fault for living in a known flood plain? I guess it was those californian's fault for living in an area where trees can burn.
It's not their fault per se, but don't you think there's an added risk in building/living in an area like Malibu, like the bowl of New Orleans, like the Mississippi Delta?
sure there is, and that's why insurance companies increase their premiums when you live there. The real problem isn't living there, it's when the companies decide to not pay out when a disaster happens in those areas. Having bobble heads support them by blaming the victims just adds insult to injury.
Snoopy, I agree that if those that build in high-risk areas are not justly compensated if they had insurance, that's a problem.
Name a place on this earth that is NOT at risk for a natural disaster. The East Coast? Hurricanes. The West Coast? Earthquakes. The rest of the nation? Tornadoes. Wildfires happen everywhere. River floods. Blizzards in winter. Flash floods in spring. Drought in summer.
Yeah, let's blame the people who live in "disaster-prone areas".
I live in Indiana, the butt-end of Tornado Alley. It is amazing to hear people in this reddest-of-the-red states on their high horses about how folks shouldn't love in these other disaster-prone areas.
Oh, and they love Mr. Beck.
How surprising! Glenn Beck targeting victims of something. Has he actually done that before? It's cruel. Senseless yet so Glenn Beckish...Even a contradiction in what he was saying.
Do we need any more proof that Ted Turner gave a show to a man who is ROCK FREAKING DUMB?
Ted Turner hasn't held a seat on the Time Warner Board of Directors for nearly two years. I don't know for sure, but I think his tenure ended before Beck was signed.
Doh! I think you're right.
It appears that Turner was out in February of 2006 and Becks show premiered that May.
What an A-Hole Beck is...!!
I wonder if Beck has ever suffered a catastrophe in which he's lost everything he owns. It's not fun and games. How do you think the people who just lost their homes feel right now being accused of hating America? I'm waiting for Beck to add that these people lost their homes because thay hate America.
Beck is a blemish.......errrrrrrr a black eye in the face of lady Liberty.
He's a puss-filled boil that needs popping.
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That means that Beck was the reason Limbaugh got out of the draft.
"When I say on the air, and I've said it a lot lately, that we need to come together and we need to get back into the center, we're being pushed on to the edges"
And what better way to do that than about joking about your perceived political adversaries losing their homes and their property?
This is the guy CNN advertises as having common sense?
Hate America?
I wish the right wingers who love drag out the "hate America" crap would give us examples of the people they are talking about and the things they have said or done that characterize their "hate" for America.
What's interesting is that I was watching an A&E documentary about the "New Skinheads" last night. These people hate America. But to run-of-the mill right wingers, it's ineffectual, non-violent Hollywood liberals that hate america. What a joke.
Well, if you were an American living in a gazillion buck home in one of the most beautiful areas on earth you'd hate America and want to see it destroyed too wouldn't you?
Beck is No. 2 in my book...
I was busy and didn't see this item when it was first posted.
Well, actually, I was in my "library", reading this month's Discovery while taking my morning Beck.
Hold your nose Bernie Shaw, CNN is now the Crap News Network.
Beck is No. 2 in my book...
Which reminds me, I went to the men's room before and did No. 2. Which also reminds be of Glenn Beck himself.
:-)
How dare Media Matters quote what Glenn Beck says! This just proves that Media Matters is a far-left hate group!
There are a few people that want to turn America into a War-Mongering Fascist Theocracy. But I don't think the Republicans are those. I think there are those posing as Republicans that are like that.
Yah, they got hijacked by criminals.
I am not defending him but it seems that many of the comments posted here have missed what he was saying, There are a lot of people that love America that are losing their homes today as well, I beleive he was pointing out the fact that some people do not understand what a gift it is to live in this Great country until the have lost something of value. They hate America and something like losing a home can cause great reflection. Losing a home is a nightmare for most people and sometimes nightmares cause us to appreciate what we have. I do not know Glenn Beck personally but I refuse to believe what some of the comments posted here are saying. I mean some of the comments here are disgusting.
Hey, that's pretty good...are you a lawyer? A theologian, perhaps? I think your apologia is a classic example of mental gymnastics. The simplest explanation is probably closer to the truth...Beck is accusing California liberals of hating America. The concept is not new...Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter have been saying basically the same thing for years.
"I mean some of the comments here are disgusting."- jasontbaumgardner1517
Really? You must be new here, because I thought everyone was cutting Beck a little slack.
They hate America and something like losing a home can cause great reflection.
The problem with your comment is that no one hates America. Hate for Bush and his ideology is a different story.
I think America is its constitution and i believe many people hate the constitution. About half the people on the right hate the constitution. I am sure they do not think of it that way but ...
EUREKA!!!!!
I've just patented a device that translates what these far right nut jobs are saying into normal english so we can understand they really aren't saying what they seem to be saying.
I'm going to make a mint!!!!!
"I beleive he was pointing out the fact that some people do not understand what a gift it is to live in this Great country until the have lost something of value."
What you believe and what he said are two different things.
I believe he was just slipping in a little joke. He didn't really mean it, he was just joking! *nudge, nudge, wink, wink*
Standard Operating Procedure for these guys.
"I am not defending him but it seems that many of the comments posted here have missed what he was saying" Oh, fear not, I know EXACTLY what he's said. They hate America. He said that when he said on the air, and he's said it a lot lately, that we need to come together and we need to get back into the center, we're being pushed on to the edges -- he wants you to understand, that is not on policies. He doesn't mean that we come in the center on policies. We come to the center on principles. They hate America.
It never ceases to amaze me that, whenever some ignorant talking head makes a statement so lacking in empathy, someone will come here any tell us what the commentator really meant.
How about taking everyone at their word? If Beck wants to once again, paint someone as un-American as they experience tragedy, let his words speak for themselves.
This clown gets paid big bucks to spew words on national television. He means exactly what he says.
I sooooo agree WK. I've been mentioning this a lot lately. Beck really meant, Rush really meant, etc.
Why anyone would spend time listening to a talk show host who can't coherently express themselves is beyond me. I also don't bring my own food when I go to a restaurant.
"I'm not defending him but...."
I'm not calling you a deluded apologist for the indefensible but....
- jasontbaumgardner1517I
You think these comments posted here are disgusting? You, trying to find a reason, any reason to defend Beck is disgusting. I happen to know a very conservative Republican who has close ties to Junior who is in the path of the Malibu fire. You think he’s the only one who knows how lucky he is to live in this country? My friends and I all hate this war, have no respect for this President or his administration. We think our country has lost it’s stature as the worlds greatest democracy and we as citizens have lost too many liberties but each and every day we wake up and thank God we don’t live in Baghdad. Thank God we don’t have to worry about suicide bombers or IED’s, however because we feel so lucky we are not willing to hide under our beds and let Junior try to turn this country into a police state. For you or Beck to think that because we speak out we deserve some type of disaster to remind us of our fortune is beyond disgusting. Disaster does not have a race, religion or political party and anyone who thinks it does is beyond disgusting. I’m sure that when you lose your home you are aware of many things, like feeling blessed that your family, friends and yourself made it out alive. Material things can always be replaced but people can not and losing your home will not cause you to lose all the good memories that home provided. There is no excuse for what Beck said. There is no explanation or reason for him to make such stupid and insensitive comments and you are a fool to even try to find one.
Pearl, You always give out such interesting and well thought out beat downs... I often think to myself what an interesting perspective you have when you lay out your arguments. I love your posts..
MHK, thank you for your kind words.
I like a woman who can think for herself...and who knows how to order ice tea. ;>)
I was only saying that everyone does not hate America, and good people are losing homes. There seems to be a lot of venemom about my comment, and by the way I was not defending Beck, I personally think he is way more popular then he should be, But I am a vet and have been to the middle east and I did feel like I was hated for my contribution to my country, but I dont hate people I love people, And I know what it is like to lose a home, I survived a couple of Hurricanes in Florida. Anyway I was only pointing out that some of the comments on this post are disgusting( not all of them) but ones like "burning Beck" to me that is a little worse that what he said. And if all of you want to hate me for my comment then what makes you any better then BECK! I think Our country is strong because people do care, but it seems like by some of the comments here that there are 2 sides in this country and they both hate each other the same. I think Rush is disgusting, but I guess I went way to the left by coming here. I thought this was the center, I guess I will return to the middle of the country with the majority and stay a way from the left as well, it is the same Hate here as the right.
I looked all through the comments here and found no one that said "burning Beck".
If you found a particular comment disgusting, please reply to it with your comments or copy and paste the username and timestamp so I can see what you are talking about.
What you are doing looks like an example of concern trolling. I haven't read anything here that even approaches the level of distaste that Glen Beck has achieved with his remarks. Perhaps you can give us some better examples of disgusting liberal comments to backup your claims. Without some real backup, I don't see your point at all here.
"Losing a home is a nightmare for most people"
What?
So, you're saying for some people its not a nightmare? No wonder you have a hard time understanding what Beck is really saying.
Ever heard of arson?
Or Buddhists who really aren't that attached to worldly possessions?
"I am not defending [Beck] but..."
'... but but but.... I'm going to defend Beck by agreeing with him that some people do hate America, just like Beck says. And furthermore the comments you all made about him are disgusting.
But I'm not defending him.'
(Got that, everybody?)
Hi Dave...
Who, What, Why and How?
Such As? Etc. Etc.
If you come back to this post, will you please explain why you agree that some of these people losing homes are haters of our country?
Thank You...
The comments here are just commenting on a disgusting man. He is saying that liberals hate America, and that Liberals are losing their homes. In his mind that is a good thing. He is disturbed.
People who say things like Beck says often find themselves on the receiving end of an asskicking.
I've tried reading the same paragraph over and over -- the one which ends with the line about the forest fire -- and I have yet to be able to render it in English. It's gibberish. Maybe if he wrote things like this out first and had a native speaker read and edit the material, he'd be able to make sense. Well, not sense, really, but at least it might end up sounding like the English language.
That's really the trick.
You don't have to make sense.
Phrases like "hate America" are catnip for the far right.
That's all they need to hear and they're satisfied whether the rest makes any sense or not.
That is the most clarifying comment I've read in awhile , Thanks.
Phrases like "hate America" are catnip for the far right
I think Beck was speaking to those who have homes in Malibu AND tend to hang out with Chavez instead of Schwarzenegger. Ah well.
Poor taste though, Beck. Poor taste.
and who exactly would that be and how would Beck know their homes burned down?
Sean Penn, for one
www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/sean_penn_biog.html
Does Sean Penn hate America?
No. He dislikes some of our policies and is a natural skeptic of what the media are telling us from what I just read on that blog. We need more people like Penn.
The first building lost yesterday, I believe, was the Malibu Presbyterian Church, on Malibu Canyon Rd, just above Pepperdine University.
Pepperdine. Home of Doug Kmiec and Ken Starr.
Beck is a freakin' idiot. Oh, but there's no debate out that, is there?
Seriously? I know exactly where that is. A girl friend of mine lived right down the street from there many years ago. Bummer...
"How about winning the war? How about saving our country?"
It's interesting how these fascists keep hammering the idea that our national survival is at stake in Iraq. They're trying real hard to wedge it into the conventional wisdom by simply repeating it over and over and over and over...without offering any logical connection. Our national survival does not depend on our continued occupation of Iraq. In fact, I believe that staying in Iraq will threaten our national survival more than leaving. Eventually, the bill for Iraq will come due. The bigger the bill, that harder it will hit us.
Good post.
Last Friday I had the good luck to attend a lecture by the leading expert on geothermal energy in the US.
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2007/geothermal.html
Dr. Tester very sublty made the point in his presentation that spending $500billion to secure some vague "strategic interests" could have easily been spent on existing geothermal, solar and other alternative sources of energy, such a huge investment would have easily replaced the energy we now import from the mid-east.
Later, the film "who killed the electric car?" was screened. Truly an inducement to rage!
While I'm completely off topic here, notice that any country that does bend over and let the US oil companies "develop" their resources is part of the axis of evil or led by a "dangerous" communist leaning leader? Any country that believes it's natural resources are precious and are not primarily a profit center for US corporations is instantly a pariah.
Actually, you're not that far off topic. I think it is safe to say that we are in Iraq, basically, to "secure" the Middle East Oil supply. Whether it is to "stabilize" the region by establishing a Democracy, or simply to annex Iraq as a thinly disguised colony for the Oil companies...we're there for the oil, period.
If you factor in the cost of our endless Middle East envolvement, we're paying a lot more for a gallon of gasoline than we realize.
Unfortunately for Mr. Beck, many of his bosses likely know people who are losing their homes in forest fires this week. Here's hoping they hear about how much they and their friends hate America, and act accordingly.
How can these fools continue to make hateful comments and still feel safe walking alone in public? Have these people no shame?
This douchebag should stick to what he does best: giving ideas to terrorists. Everything he says approximates caca of the mouth.
Mr. Beck, I do not and will not get anywhere near you concerning principles. You are in the Far-Out Bizarro world of the TalkJocks who only care about ratings. You probably do not even know what the true policies of this country are. You are about making money. If you have to be a stupid fool to do that, go ahead. But NEVER tell anyone how to think. You are but a puppet who enjoys a hand up your...
Reich-wingers are always whining that the left turns every issue into a political/left-right debate. Only a reich-winger could possible turn a tragedy like this into a political issue. What a twit; how fitting that he carries water for the reich-wing.
we need more people in the center like Glenn Beck!
(bangs head on the sidewalk)
That was the final straw. CNN is now blocked from my TV and computer until they at least distance themselves from his comments. Lately (past couple of years) it seems like CNN and Fox are in a race to see who can go lower. (Fox is still the standard bearer)
Those are mostly Republicians losing their houses near San Diego, mr beck
Perhaps Beck should be aware that most of the people who can afford California real estate are as Right Wing economically as you can get. Do they "hate America?" Not the part that made them rich.
is there a more loathescom piece of excrement on the airways than beck?
No, but it's a 7 way tie: Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, O'Reilly, Ingrahm, and that b*tch in SanFran whose name escapes me.
I think you're referring to Il Douche-bag.
AKA Melonie Moron.
when will beck start sayint that mmfa has smeared him by mistating his words
what a sociopath
Do I even need to say it?
Ahhh... what the hell.
Glen Beck has once again proven himself to be a dumbf*ck's dumbf*ck.
He's also a soulless turd.
a lot the fires are happening is what is traditionally conservative california... example: orange county, and riverside county... the Malibu fire gets a lot of attention because they are million dollar houses
Rupert Murdoch is currently the biggest mogul in Hollywood. Why do right-wingers hate Murdoch?
This just happens over and over again with the Beaver. He attempts to engage in deep thoughts and ends up telling us about the handful of people who hate America with homes that are burning down.
The problem here Beaver, is that sometimes when you stand up for what you beleive in you expose yourself as a complete fool.
If that's your goal, mission accomplished.
Let me guess. Glen Beck is Christian.
"Dr. Strangelove, or how I learned to love the bomb" is a 1964 satirical film directed by Stanley Kubrick. It tells the story of an insane American Air Force General, Jack D. Ripper. (Beck is Ripper)
Beck like Ripper wants to stop, a vast anti-American/Rupublican conspiracy to put fluoride in the water supply, thereby threatening his "precious bodily fluids" and by extention, Republicans at large and by further extention "America."
That's right, Beck thinks Republicanism is America. Beck is pleased to see this small group of so called America haters lose their homes. Those poor folks don't hate our country, they hate Beck and his "Precious Bodily Fluids" and his twisted idea that he represents, speaks for and protects America.
Owners of the burned down homes don't hate our country. They hate Beck and his insanity . They hate his hatred of all those voters who took back the house and senate from Becks Republican/America.
I hereby cast my vote to cast Beck in the role of Ripper in an updated sequal of the movie, "Dr Stangelove."
How you can justify agreeing with this man is beyond me. Honestly how has American fell so far when it is okay to bash someone who just lost their home?
The people I know in San Diego County love America very much. What polling service did this guy use for his show prep? I'm just a baby killing, terrorist lover so what do I know, I guess the flames are heading my way next.
WTF?! What is this hack's point? What... does wind and fire have a liberal bias or something? No propoerty damage suffered by any Republican's? (Maybe God protected them?)
It's not only a vile and distgusting comment, but it's completely non-sensical!
Oh... wait... I forgot - it's Beck. Sorry that explains it.
I think it's hilarious that Beck lumps those who have lost their multi-million-dollar homes in these fires as "left" or "anti-war" ...
As I understand it, San Diego is VERY Republican, and has a lot of support for Rs because of the military presence there ...
And multi-million-dollar homes are not owned by the poor, right?
Glenn Beck should be taken off of th epublic airwaves! I cannot beleive that anyone in our nation would care to lose this hate monger, liar and propagandist. When will the FCC ever step in to stop idiots like Beck and Limbaugh and Colter - their language is way more evil than any curse word.
We the American public own those airwaves and should demand that they be regulated to prevent hateful speech and untruthful claims.
What is wrong with this man?
I want to hear from some one who listens and agrees with this buffoon. How can you people continue to support the hate coming out of the mouths of Beck, Hannity, and Coulter?
Glenn Beck is a COWARD. Years ago when my child won a day at a radio station with Beck and his co-anchor, he didn't even shake our hands and handily disappeared during the duration of the show with the co-host making a really lame excuse. I sensed his racism even then and shortly after that, he left the station for Florida. It was said that he was a huge asshole at the station. hmmm. What is it with CNN (FOX wannabe #3) that gives forums to these hatemongers?
I don't find anything that comes out of Hannity, Beck or Limbaugh hateful. Coulter... yes.
And if you want to censure talk radio it is only fair to censure non-cable programming.
You need to adjust the sensitivity of your hate detector. You've got it turnded down so low you are endangering yourself, you won't be able to tell that a crack addict with a saturday night special pointed at your face means to harm you!
So what do you consider "[A] handful of people who hate America ... are losing their homes in a forest fire today" if not hateful?
A statement of fact?
well....beck explained all this morning...seems that all the bloggers are just idiots...and he was just joking.....you guys dont get it....forest fires, people losing their homes, people dying....hey, thats just some funny stuff
When will CNN come to their senses and get this stupid idiot off my TV screen?
Turn the Channel- DUH
CNN can't come to their senses, because too many cents are coming to them. Pardon the play on words, but seriously this is about money. These people don't care about public decency - that went out of style in the late 80's. They care about advertising dollars and if Beck, Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh and all these other so called Christians bring in corporate dollars, they have to do what our capitalistic market demands. Which is shove indecency down our throat with these so called informed members of the media, who conveniently pose as satirist when they make an inflammatory comment. This formula is old and I actually wish we could go back to a time in America when people cared about being judged by their words.
The irony in San Diego County is the supposed America lovers from the red inland areas are the ones who have lost their homes. They and their animals are being evacuated to and taken of by the supposed America haters in the blue urban areas and along the blue coast. From what I've heard on TV there have been no loyalty oaths or pledges to denounce America required for any of the conservatives from the inland to receive help from the liberal urbanites and coasters. This is a situation where politics have no place and everyone is looking out for everyone else. Reminds me of the feel of the immediate post-911 era before Bush and Cheney destroyed the immense goodwill that arose from that tragedy.
I quite watching Beck some time ago. I find him to be so aggravating and foolish in his comments it was't worth the time of day.
He has the lowest ratings (barely behind Tucker) of any cable news show so I have no idea why they wouln't get somebody else to handle the slot.
Probably because the want to ingratiate the right wing with one of thir own.
Sometimes people say things that they think are cute.This J.O is so ignorant that it really pathetic to say the leasy.
If you wanted to make a grade school cassroom out of these guys...
Rush would be the class bully, pushing everyone around, but acting respectably when the teacher is looking. (What? What did I do?)
Hannity would be the class clown. (Condoms on bananas anyone?)
Coulter is the rich, snobby little daddy's girl. (Can't write it here, but it rhymes with "rich".)
Bill-O would be the mouthy know-it-all who always throws in tidbits of (typically inaccurat) "knowlegde" that usually has little to do with the lesson, and then asks stupid questions in an effort to appear interested/interesting. (Every class has one of these guys!)
BECK would be the guy that no one really likes, but who says what he thinks people (like the more popular bully, class clown & rich snob) want to hear in a deperate attempt to be accepted. Kind of a yapping little lap-dog, who kisses up the the bully but gets noogies from him when the teacher isn't looking and/or wedgies in the locker room. He's the biggest loser - the one who thinks he's popular, but can't think for himself, and just follows the crowd, who don't even realize he's there.
Who buys this hateful and devisive rhetoric? Arrianna Huffington is correct. The right wing has been taken over by the lunatic fringe.
Dear Mr. Beck, My whole family has been evacuated...and some of them are republicans. I do not even care if your words were taken out of context ...you are still an explitive-deleted. Sincerely hoping you find sobriety.
sorry folks that should have read: expletive...with an e....short for A**hole
(Be forewarned - this is a full-on 'troll' post)
It's another MMfA smear!!!
Boy oh boy...you guys are like sharks in the water. Smell a little blood and ATTACK. Maybe you'll get him taken off the air this time. Would that be a better world? Why oh why are you so afraid of Glenn Beck?
Oh...I see...it's all the stupid people like me that are the problem, isn't it? Us minions of the right wing who can't separate one slip of the tongue or poorly worded question from an otherwise entertaining show.
Look...you don't need to protect me. I'm grown up enough to separate the entertainment from the off-hand remark. Stop being such whiny little tattle tales and get on with your life.
"Why oh why are you so afraid of Glenn Beck?"
Well, that is your take on it.
hypothetical answer: Because by virtue of the fact that he has not taken himself, with humility and integrity, off the air... and on a daily basis he spews babbling garbage.... and for the fact that he is not even remotely funny or entertaining proves that he is a sociopath...and by definition worthy of the "fear" that you suggest
"and for the fact that he is not even remotely funny or entertaining proves that he is a sociopath...and by definition worthy of the "fear" that you suggest" - jmh
Wait a minute...I find him to be very funny and entertaining. Does my opinion not count? Where is the tolerance that you people on the left talk about so much?
no tolerance of the intolerant. why don't you turn the other cheek?
Of course your opinion counts. Duh? Are you being censored? Is anyone preventing you from expressing your opinion? Why do you have these frequent delusions of victimhood?
Delusions of victimhood?? Me? Wha..?
First of all, I am not being censored and as a somewhat regular poster (some would say 'Troller') on this site, I appreciate the discourse.
Now, onto the victimhood: I don't think I said I was a victim - but I get annoyed at the suggestion that anyone who listens to Beck, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, etc., or God-forbid, AGREES with any of them, is a slack-jaw, trailer-trash, racist, hate-mongering, bigoted idiot. For the record, I don't live in a trailer.
it is not about intolerance.
I am certain that media trash talk for the last 10 to 50 years (it actually started on AM Radio) has been dominated by those tending toward right wing of politics (if you can even dignify it that way...and of course, everyone now is engaged in it)
So my reason for periodic venting is to express: enough is enough.
I have never listened to any "Left" wing trash talk, though I am certain this form is a new phenomenon. Outrage to the likes of the Cable "news" hacks and especially the Limbaughs (Beck is really a wanna-be I think) of the world is a Response to the years and years of destructive political...let's call it... banter.
Well... Your middle paragraph is correct...
why hasn't he been fired?
Are you people out of your minds!? Seriously, listen to his show. He was obviously joking. He was making a comment about the Hollywood crowd - which he often does, and how they insist on building their homes time after time on the cliffs and in the burn zones. It was a joke. And what is it about putting text in bold that seems to shut a part of your brain off?
Excuse me. I live in Florida, I have listened to the raging lunatic Beck since his early radio days.
You are deluded if you think he was joking. I remember his NON-JOKING and his insulting "humor" and denigrating ALL callers that did not agree with him. There is much you do not know about Beck. Ask him about the Mons Venus, and how many times he sent his side kick there. How many times did he himself visit?
Not that that means anything, but he is WAY...onesided...do as I say....not as I do....as many on the far right are.
Beck and Limbaugh. Why does the supposed value party, the moralist high grounders...even consider allowing these two to speak for them. One's a junkie and the other a junkie drunk.
It's pretty pathetic, when you consider their past personal behaviors.
They don't speak for the Republican party. They are conservatives who have criticized the Republican party time and again. I urge you to take the time to listen to their shows - maybe for just a week. It may be painful, but you'll see that they are actually more concerned about professing conservative principles, and aren't concerned at all about being Republican mouthpieces.
They don't speak for the Republican party. They are conservatives who have criticized the Republican party time and again. I urge you to take the time to listen to their shows - maybe for just a week. It may be painful, but you'll see that they are actually more concerned about professing conservative principles, and aren't concerned at all about being Republican mouthpieces.
Well now, that is a load of BS too. How many times have the "conservative mouthpieces" been invited to the white house at the exclusion of progressives. As for critizizing the repubs time and again....lol. They DEFEND the repubs time and again especially when the repubs in government are caught doing crimes or fondling boys or soliciting sex.
"They DEFEND the repubs time and again especially when the repubs in government are caught doing crimes or fondling boys or soliciting sex." - ">[link to www.voiceoffreedom.com">] Lorelei
That's a pretty strong accusation. Please - give me one example of this. Give me the WORST example of a conservative talk show host defending a criminal or child molester.
Since you're a longtime listener of the Glenn Beck Program, did you happen to listen to the when Larry Craig started getting into hot water? Happen to notice that Glenn has called time and time again for Craig to resign? Nope. Didn't think you did. Ever hear Rush or Glenn call for the Republicans to wake up? They do it almost every day.
Now that's hilarious. Since I have noticed in the last half year, or so, that many of the "conservative" hosts are changing their tunes. Beck actually started getting softer about 8 months ago. That does not change the fact that he is in my opinion slime. (I base this on having listened to him for years...unlike some of you)
So basically you're saying that should someone wake up, and have a change of heart, and stop being a so-called "Republican mouthpiece", that is irrelavent? You don't believe in repenting?
I am still waiting for your examples of Beck or Limbaugh defending child molesters.
So basically you're saying that should someone wake up, and have a change of heart, and stop being a so-called "Republican mouthpiece", that is irrelavent? You don't believe in repenting?
I am still waiting for your examples of Beck or Limbaugh defending child molesters.
I think anyone can repent. When will you repent from defending a hateful statement like the one Beck spouted, or Limbaugh.
By the way, I never said either one of them defended child molesters..get off your high horse....I suggested it tongue in cheek....it was a joke...heh....unfortunately for you.....
oopssss....my bad thats, Becks and Limbaughs excuse.
But....since you want examples of them
Here is my toppers on my list of people and things they defend or diss according to republican values/morals/policy
BushCheneyIraqAnti-AbortionRepublican wrong doing..(do your own research)their own Lies and StatementsWMD'sGlobal WarmingSwiftBoatersVeteransEvolution/CreationPatriotismRacismImmigrationThe US Attny firingsThe Patriot Act and the illegal use of itThe Healthcare problemand mostly continuing to SPOUT HOW EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT THINK LIKE THEM HATES AMERICA
The Republican party, conservatives, have become the party that beleives in rules for all but themselves, they believe they are themselves exempt from those rules. They believe they are the only party with the "correct" morals and faith. They seem to have a party religion too. One that commands them to love, and have patience, and to help others. Oddly, they seem to "hate" and tear down the people that do not hold their party on a pedestal or people that simply do not have it as good as they do.
It sickens me to see our country torn with this hatefulness. I have nothing to compare it to, it is as bad as I have ever seen. Perhaps the rightwing faith is right......it's the end. (more likely Carlin is right tho)
I hope there is not a god looking down on us right now, if he did we would be drowning in his tears.
Lorelei;
Parts of your post here would make for good bumper stickers: they look good but have absolutely no depth.
You seem like a nice person but I think you're confused as to where the intolerance and hate is coming from. To get a deeper perspective, check out some of the columns on Townhall.com. I don't expect to change your mind on these issues, but you should at least be exposed to intelligent opposing viewpoints.
Oh sure, it's an intelligent website...lol
comment on front page....
We should call Democrats for what they really are, phony Americans.
...about as intelligent as Rush L.'s statements....
Heh, thanks, I think some of my comments would make better bumper stickers than WWJD.
I would not call them conservative exactly. Conservatives have more intellectual integrity. Here is an example: Limbaugh has tried to make it relevant that Hilary's husband has cheated on her as if their personal life has any real bearing on her political performance etc. and he says very little about the deep moral hypocracy of Republicans and any associated impact that might have on _their_ politcial performance or integrity...this is really about the constant need to Blame Bill Clinton for Everything...
Back to Beck...it is obvious that he models himself after the above trash talking elder "statesmen" like that guy: oh, what is his name?...oh, right Lim'Hannity O'Coulter-Reilly
Well, look at what Rush Limbaugh is saying about the California fires:http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/2007/10/why-does-rush-limbaugh-hate-california.html
Apparently, the concept of tongue-in-cheek doesn't mean anything to many of you. He was not taking a shot or making light of the situation. It's funny, he was actually talking about trying to get people to get along. He was saying that Democrats don't hate America, they love it as much as Republicans. He was merely pointing out that there are some fringe wacko people that seem to hate America. Some people blame America for all the evils in the world and think we are the biggest problem. And he's right, there are people like that. They tend to not be left-of-center, but far-left loons. His joke was about the fact that many of the far-left loons live in that area. It was an easy segue. It's called wit and humor people. Get over yourselves and quit taking everything so personally.
The best man from my wedding is a fireman in LA County who has been working his ass off for 4 days straight. Another friend is a doctor that was evacuated from his home, and his wife and daughter were evactuated from his mother-in-law's house. It is a terrible situation, but we have joked back and forth about it. In real life, normal people can make jokes about things. It doesn't make them right-wing hate-mongers.
I keep seeing comments about the areas being hit as Republican strongholds. Again, to simplify it for those who need it. His comment was not meant to insinuate that the fires were taking out a bunch of Democrats. The joke was meant to insinuate that many of the far-leftists, the blame-America and America-is-evil people, live out on the left coast.
and so....its funny that their homes are burning?
It makes me chuckle.
Beck has a history of saying inflammatory, offensive, and ignorant things about people facing tragedy, that's what he's paid to do. Despite people such as himself and the lack of timely federal aid, the community is making a difference by helping those in need, much like with Katrina (another set of victims Beck hates, by the way).
At Monday at 1pm central there will be a Blog Talk Radio Show (URL: [link to www.blogtalkradio.com] about Desert Bayou ([link to www.desertbayoumovie.com),] a film about Katrina and its aftermath, and how 600 African American evacuees in Utah were helped by a community much like those in San Diego County are experiencing now. It will have the director, Alex LeMay, and Master P, who is featured and is a producer on the film. For those interested, the call-in number is: (646) 595-3863.
THEY ARE ONLY WORDS... What he said was a bit mean, but until I see him in the backyard with a flamethrower, he can say whatever he wants in my book. Just take him and all other right (and left) wing commentators for what they are... commentators with absolutely no power over your every day life. We could go back and forth all day comparing the millions of harsh words uttered by both left wingers and right wingers; anyone with passion is bound to piss off someone. But when it comes down to it, we still all have to live our lives, and I would like to assert that whether it's Glenn Beck, Don Imus, Rush Limbaugh, Whoopi Goldberg, Neal Boortz, Jon Stewart, Randi Rhodes, or Bill Maher, no one's life or well being has been hurt by words. Some of the folks on this site seem like this is really ruining their day... Another day in the United States of the Offended.
These people seem to define anyone who suggests change or who criticizes a government policy as 'hating America'.
I have heard a lot of people tell their children that they are doing things incorrectly and suggest change - does that mean they hate their children?
I have had a few bosses who suggested changes in policy or training. Does that mean they hate the company they work for or their employees?
I'm not sure where this idea came from that anyone who is idealistic enough to think that we can improve things 'hates' what they're trying to improve, but it sure works well for those who don't want anybody discussing how far we still are from our shared goals, doesn't it?
Beck is a sick man. You have to have a twisted brain to even think the way he does. The fact that there are enough people that watch his show to keep him on the air is something that should have all of us concerned.
THE ONLY HATE MONGERING IS ON FOX NEWS! The more virtuous any man is, the less easily does he suspect others to be vicious. - Cicero ten steps that "fascist, totalitarian, and other repressive leaders [employ to] seize and maintain power, especially in what were once democracies.” The ten steps are: 1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy 2. Create a gulag 3. Develop a thug caste 4. Set up an internal surveillance system 5. Harass citizens' groups 6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release 7. Target key individuals 8. Control the press 9. Dissent equals treason 10. Suspend the rule of law naomi wolfe