Carlson: If Al Gore were president, "[w]e'd ... be living in yurts in the dark"
On the November 26 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, after stating that he "will bet [his] car" that President Bush, "when he leaves office will come out in the next decade or so as a strong advocate on behalf of ending global warming," host Tucker Carlson asserted that former Vice President Al Gore "would have been a disaster as president." Carlson continued: "We'd have been living in the Dark Ages. I think he's fundamentally hostile to human civilization. And a phony." After Politico senior political columnist Roger Simon asked Carlson, "Would we be fighting a war in Iraq?" Carlson responded, "We would likely be not, not be fighting a war in Iraq. We'd also be living in yurts in the dark, and that would be maybe almost as bad."
Gore shared the Nobel Peace Prize with the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for "[h]is strong commitment, reflected in political activity, lectures, films and books, [which] has strengthened the struggle against climate change," according to the Nobel citation.
From the November 26 edition of MSNBC's Tucker:
CARLSON: Let me just put it this way. Here is my guess, and I know that I'm right. I will bet my car, in fact. Bush will come out, this president when he leaves office, will come out in the next decade or so as a strong advocate on behalf of ending global warming. He will be, he will have an environmentally conscious post presidency --
SIMON: Out of guilt perhaps?
CARLSON: -- like you read about -- no. 'Cause I think those are his true feelings. I mean, the guy has -- you know, he brags about his ranch being -- you know, having a small carbon footprint. I mean, they're very similar. People can't -- it's the same culture.
BOB FRANKEN (online columnist): Well, but they come at it entirely differently. I mean, George W. Bush has come at it as president from the point of view of corporate America, saying that we have to maintain our economy, and we have to figure out some sort of way consistent with that to attack global warming as long as we don't undermine the economy. Al Gore comes at it as, "I've got a slide show here which says that this is priority. We have to do this."
[crosstalk]
CARLSON: Well, I mean, presumably keeping the economy from collapsing is not only good for corporations but also for the people who don't -- so the country doesn't live in poverty.
FRANKEN: But what I'm saying is they're coming at it from entirely different directions.
CARLSON: Yeah. Bush will change. I've been saying this for seven years. Nobody believes me.
SIMON: But Al Gore will suggest that's eight years too late.
CARLSON: Yeah, OK, OK. Well, I think -- I mean, I think Gore would have been a disaster as president. We'd have been living in the Dark Ages. I think he's fundamentally hostile to human civilization. And a phony.
SIMON: Would we be fighting a war in Iraq?
CARLSON: We would likely be not, not be fighting a war in Iraq. We'd also be living yurts in the dark, and that would be maybe almost as bad.
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With such insightful political commentary, I'm really suspired MSNBC is contemplating the cancellation of Tuckers show.
Maybe MSNBC can give us all an early x-mas present and give Tucker the pink slip now....
It’s shear and utter lunacy on Carlson’s part. There’s no excuse for his logically bankrupt stupidity. I make more cogent assertions while drooling on my pillow.
I think he's fundamentally hostile to human civilization.
Yes, that is about as stupid as you can get. Carlson has become a caricature of himself. As the waves rise higher and higher he can only increase the volume. It's all he knows.
Carlson's only claim to a "political" position is the enduring "smaller government" mantra.
It's his version of saying he wants a "better" nation, without any obligation whatsoever to make the hard choices about priorities and problems. He sticks to the "government IS the problem" that endeared Ronald Reagan to the conservatives, without ever noting that under Reagan (and Bush), the SIZE of government mushroomed. It's a "principle" without any teeth, rationality, or any feeling of a necessity to be explained.
Smaller HOW? What would YOU, Tucker, eliminate? Ah, those are little details, which get in the way of a great political philosophy that enables (ed) Tucker to reap a large salary while adding nothing at all to the debate.
Who, exactly, was it who decided that, of all the potential pundits available, Tucker Carlson was the one who needed to have his own show? On WHAT requirements, with what expertise, with what record of accomplishment?
Tucker is a nothing. His relative "fame" will be an enduring mystery in American Media annals, right next to Beck. Their only recommendation is that they are to Republicans as Mr. Wiffle was to Charmin', or that idle repairman was to Maytag. A reliable spokesperson, a comicbook character with a one-note message, bought and paid for by partisans in power.
One word, nepotism.
These people will deny global warming until the clouds catch fire.
This guy's a yammering fool. He obviously doesn't know what he's talking about and MSNBC should put us out of our collective misery by yanking him. He's got nothing of substance to offer. I'd sure rather contemplate a world where Al Gore was president than the disaster that's been visited on us by GWB's presidency.
Hiya julia...good to see you here. Oh how I wish that a critical mass of voters had read Molly Ivins' Shrub before the 2000 election. She laid it out real plain; the bushco fake macho crookery was already manifested in Texas. Even worse was the welding with neo-con ambitions to control all the oil in the middle east.
Al Gore has really shone in the years since.
Pure hyperbole...this man should not be taken seriously, but some still do.
Wow, Carlson says Gore would have been a disaster as President AND the US wouldn't have started the Iraq war. Amazing.
In what delusional, fantasy dimension does Tucker Carlson live?
I wonder what the 3,906 soldiers who died in Iraq and all their loved ones would think of Carlson's "Gore disaster" had it come to fruition.
Justice and Truth in the USA - Fact Check:
Governor: Let me speak for all the brave soldiers who gave their lives in Iraq -
GIs: While it's true that George Bush drove this war into a ditch with some poor decisions, the fact is that AlGore believed the same things as George Bush, so we'd probably be just as dead - Up here in Heaven we have free internet, so we googled SNOPES.COM and found these statements from AlGore which support our argument - (oh, by the way, they do have internet in Hell, but you have to connect with AOL)
[snopes.com]"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002."Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
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Do not misquote me again, JUSTICETRUTHUS8276. Thanks in advance.
Governor:
I was not trying to "quote" you. The sentence was merely "addressed" to you with the use of the colon.
Understood. There is still a great deal wrong with what you wrote.
There's a lot wrong with JusticeTroll.....
Justice for Truth: Did you even bother READING the link that you provided? The quotes from GORE that you refer to were made in a speech in which he was speaking AGAINST invading Iraq. They are quoted in their full contect half way down the article, which I presume you never got to. His point was that while their may in fact be weapons in Iraq, there was no immediate reason to go blundering into war. Gee, there sure is egg on Gore's face on that, isn't there? Please at least try to figure out whether your post has any substance to it before you press the "Post" button. Thank you.
Mark:
Don't blame me if those dumb GIs can't be bothered to read the entire post.
But I think that their central point is still valid. Gore did believe that Sadam was building WMD. And Gore DID want to have regime change in Iraq.
So, please, give those poor, dumb GIs a break for Christ's sake!
Having fun with other people’s pain and suffering?
He isnt he is blaming YOU for both being too dumb to read and so arrogant you think you can speak for other people. You cant.
He is an inconsistent fool. Claimed he was "addressing" me with a colon in the same post he "quoted" GIs with a colon. Anyway, I’m ignoring him from here on out.
i think all the gi-s who gave their lives might say why did we have to die when the u.n. inspectors were already in iraq and finding none of those weapons that were supposed to be there. they also might ask bush why he forced the inspectors to withdraw, not saddam.
Truth for Justice: You made a statement in your last post (on behalf of dead GIs no less) that because Gore believed that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, that the GIs would have wound up just as dead under a Gore pesidency. You cited to an article which contained quotes from Gore that suggest he did believe that Hussein had some weapons, but he was advising AGAINST Bush's push for war at that point. In other words, the article you cited stood for the exact opposite of the proposition you were esposing--that the dead GIs would have wound up the same if Gore had been president. When this obvious error was pointed out to you you then suggest that because Gore belived there were weapons an d he did want regime change, that your original point was well taken. It makes no sense to even try to engage in any dialogue with someone like you. Your conclusions are not factually based at all; in fact, they are contradicted by your own sources. Yet, in your view, your conclusions are well founded. You simply cannot be taken seriously, and your positions are entitled to no respect whatsoever. By the way, virtually all Americans, Gore included, would have been in favor of regime change in Iraq. But there is a huge difference in wanting a country to have different leadership, and unilaterally invading that country to impose regime change. Gore was not in favor of doing that, so your suggestion that things would have wound up the same because Gore wanted regime change is just WRONG.
Do us all a favor. Don't speak for anyone but yourself.
Especially not for those who've died in this quagmire.
You don't have that right or privilege.
Yeah BEFORE the inspectors were in Iraq. I want a judges ruling on that. Sorry the judges rule that your SPECULATION based on partisan BS and attempted mindreading is not compelling I am calling this one in favor of you being a partisan propagandist with hivemind delusions.
On the plus side, he really sucks at misinforming.
Why is it that every time a right-winger tries to post some sort of proof of their point, it either actually goes against their point or it comes from newsmax or an equally disreputable source?
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quote JT | (oh, by the way, they do have internet in Hell, but you have to connect with AOL)|
Called in favor of JT. But all the rest of referenced post is destined for bottom of sick parrot's cage, and then the compost heap.
Pithaughn
Certified Humour Checker
(oh, by the way, they do have internet in Hell, but you have to connect with AOL)
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JustStupid!
Sept. 23, 2002 Al Gore delivered a fully comprehensive speech covering all points relative to the war against terrorist, and the proposed war against Iraq.
He made for the first time the argument that a war of premption to be contrary to whom we as a nation represent, and is offfensive to the world in such a way as to turn a overwhelming swell of good will into resentment, dispise, and eventually hatred.
He argued very thoroughly against the prospect of a Premptive Doctrine of War.
If course when we had a balance of power, and a Democratic President the TRUTH MATTERED!
Happy Thoughts;
Dan Grady
http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09gore-speech.html
JusticeTroll: Let me speak for all of us who have to endure your mindless, pointless posts ad nauseum:
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
Thank you.
Interesting. Tucker says, "Gore would have been a disaster as president."
Then he says, "We would likely be not, not be fighting a war in Iraq. We'd also be living yurts in the dark, and that would be maybe almost as bad."
The logical inference from this is that Tucker thinks George Bush has been a disaster as president, right? I mean, if the disaster that Gore would have wrought on the nation (in Tucker's fevered imagination) is "almost as bad" as the war that is Bush's legacy, that means Bush is worse.
Am I getting all that correct? Or is it just folly to try to extract sense and consistency from Tucker?
Actually Arch, Tucker isn't a big fan of Bush or his stupid war.
I thought the "Yurts" thing was kinda funny.
I'm not a big fan of Al Gore, but I don't think we'd be living in the "dark ages" had he been President.
I don't even like to imagine how much better things would have been. It's depressing :-/
I don't even like to imagine how much better things would have been. It's depressing :-/ Jeter2
You got that right, cowboy.
I often think about the what if, and it is depressing. I wonder if our supreme justices ever think about it.
I wonder if our supreme justices ever think about it.
I wonder if Clarence Thomas is capable of cognizant thought.
I learned a new word today. Carry on.
Sorry Tucker, the world and the U.S. would have been better off had Gore won, c'mon you repug, admit it.
Tucker Carlson has been living in the dark all his life......
Carlson is a fool, but he has never been given a chance at MSNBC, the network started him at 10. I even remember the nasty argument he had with Imus and Imus hung up on him , MSNBC made the choice that day to have him over Imus and he has never recovered.
What is he talking about? My Yurt has central heat and air....and cable.
He admits it right when he says the US would not be fighting a war in Iraq. Thousands of US lives have ended in Iraq, tens-of-thousands of US citizens have lost family members in Iraq, $443 billion US dollars have been spent destroying Iraq and killing its people. Carlson’s pet gripe w/ climate change science, coupled with his posh pseudo-celebrity lifestyle, blinds him from the real world suffering of ordinary people.
Sorry, that was a reply to Marker.
I think you are right about Tucker, but he'll always have "Dancing With the Stars" as a memory to keep him happy.
What a scary sight that was seeing him on Dancing with the Stars.
Ha, don't feel bad for little Tuck when he's fired from MSNBC, Fox is waiting in the wings. I actually watched Tucker for about 15 minutes yesterday and wondered why he wasn't fired long ago. Considering his stalker like fixation on anything Clinton/Gore, he'll be right at home on Fox.
I seriously doubt that the people who voted for Junior, if given a second chance, would vote for Junior again. What are his accomplishments? Unending war in Iraq while waiting 7 years to get involved in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, OBL still on the loose, Afghanistan now almost completely back under the control of the Taliban, Pakistan, our supposed ally, under martial law, armed with nuclear weapons, US housing disaster which will go down as the worse economic housing crisis in US history, Americans working two jobs for the wages of one, US dollar slumping to all time low while oil is at record highs, China, Putin, and the list goes on. You think that if given a second chance to change their vote people would still vote for Junior? I don't think so.
But....just look at all that extra stuff Millionaires and Billionaires were able to buy with their tax cuts!
What's his point? That strong environmental regulations are at odds with a strong economy? That's stupid. Deregulation of environmental standards drains the public's money in clean-up costs and in damaged health costs to the tune of hundreds of millions a year. That's money that could provide healthcare for families who are afflicted by corporate polluters. That's money that could pay good teachers to work in struggling schools. It's money that could be put to good use for people, but instead it subsidizes the filthy habits of irresponsible businessmen.
Maybe Carlson is saying we're all too stupid to see what a man of great principle and environmental conscience Bush is. I guess he's right. We're all too ignant to see how much Bush cares. What with the forsaking of the Gulf Coast Katrina victims, the thumb twittling over mining safety and the Dead Skies Act how can it not be obvious that the Bush Republicans really care for the earth and her citizens?
Carlson is a disaster.
Good points Roundhouse. In addition, new technology and products will make the economy just as stable if people would get over their fear and quit trying to hang on to the old, filthy ways. There's certainly lots of money in being "green".
Poor old Tucker Carrion, born in the dark and liable to die that way. He needs a swift kick in the yurts.
This lousy excuse for a human being isn't worthy to tie Al Gore's shoes. The only thing Carlson loves is the sound of his own voice. Please MSNBC can his sorry ass. His diarrhea of the mouth is beyond sickening. Send him home and let his Daddy get him a job sharpening pencils. At least for that he has the minimum qualifications. I feel sorry that his kids have to acknowledge him as their father. "Oh and what does your Daddy do?" "He goes on TV and talks stupid."
"I mean, I think Gore would have been a disaster as president. We'd have been living in the Dark Ages. "
That's funny. I tend to blame conservative Christians for the actual Dark Ages.
What's his problem with yurts anyway? I lived in a yurt for... A long time, i don't remember really. but not as long as the good folks of Southern Mississippi. We should celebrate Boxing Day here. That way these fathead punks can live in a cardboard box for a day just to see how it feels. Hell make it a week.
I know that's not what the holiday is about but it should be. Humble out a few folks. I think we should all live in yurts in the dark. It would be an amazing equalizer. Imagine the awesome health care we could afford with the savings!
gore would have been a good president. a continuation of clinton without the zipper problems. how anyone voted for that alcoholic frat boy over gore is a mystery.
Tucker Carlson is the biggest fool on television. His inanity knows no bounds.
Tucker Carlson must be the only one in America who knows what "yurts" means. This does not, however, entitle him to his own tv show. Listening to his commentary is like listening to small children call each other names. At least, they grow up someday.
I wonder how many different ways there are to call a person a dumb ass., but one way is call him a Tucker Carlson.
Humour check in the USA
quote JT | (oh, by the way, they do have internet in Hell, but you have to connect with AOL)|
Called in favor of JT. But all the rest of referenced post is destined for bottom of sick parrot's cage, and then the compost heap.
Pithaughn
Certified Humour Checker
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Since 2000, the gods seem to have been going out of their way to vindicate Al Gore. He's become a movie star, won an Oscar, an Emmy, and the Nobel Peace Prize.
He's been right on nearly everything. He saw the potential of the Internet way back in the 8os, he saw that the war in Iraq would be a disaster before it even began, and he saw the threat of catastrophic climate change coming long before anyone else did. And he has been tireless in pushing the world to make the changes necessary to meet that threat.
When the history of the 21st century is written (assuming, of course, we survive), Al Gore will figure prominently as one of those who fought for the good of all humanity. Tucker Carlson, assuming he is mentioned at all, will be remembered as the guy Jon Stewart made fun of for wearing a bowtie.
http://www.yurts.com/gallery/virtual-tour.aspx
I think Yurts are cute......and Tucker is an idiot.....
why does this person have a tv show?
While my dictionary defines idiot as mentally retarded. It also lists idiot as, a very foolish or stupid person. In either case those words do define Tucker Carlson. I will illustrate just that with his own foolish words. "This President(Bush)when he leaves office, will come out....as a strong advocate on behalf of ending global warming" Very foolish. "Yeah, Bush will change" Stupid. "I've been saying this for seven years" Retarded. Every village needs an idiot and it is clear that MSNBC has found theirs.
footsore
eh.... that was a low blow. Attacking someone who didn't 'win'.. when the winner was obviously a bad choice in accordance to the majority.