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Craig Crawford: "[M]any of us in the media tend to gang up on the Clintons"

January 20, 2008 3:19 pm ET

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On the January 19 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, NBC News political analyst and Congressional Quarterly columnist Craig Crawford reacted to co-host Joe Scarborough's earlier criticism of former President Bill Clinton, saying: "I think there's a tendency here -- I know what's going on. It's all about an old journalistic rule, which is we afflict the comfortable. And so I think that's why many times, many of us in the media tend to gang up on the Clintons. Because they're very comfortable, they're very powerful, and I think sometimes we're actually a little unfair to them, but maybe that's just how it goes."

From the January 19 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

SHUSTER: So we've been talking a lot this morning about this sort of battle between the [Sen. Hillary] Clinton [D-NY] campaign and [Sen. Barack] Obama [D-IL] regarding some remarks that Barack Obama made. It set off Bill Clinton. He made some statements about Barack Obama. And then Joe earlier hammered Bill Clinton. However, we want to just clarify what the remarks were that Barack Obama said, because Bill Clinton was talking about Obama saying that there were no great ideas from Democrats the last 15 years. And Joe said, "That's not what Obama said." Well, let's clarify. Here's the clip of Barack Obama that we think Bill Clinton was actually referring to. Watch this.

OBAMA [video clip]: I think it's fair to say the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there, over the last 10, 15 years. In the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom.

SHUSTER: "Challenging conventional wisdom." Well, he clarified that a little bit. But still, I think you can understand, Mika, why Bill Clinton and the Clintons, for that matter, would go off on that, to suggest: "Wait a second. With all the things that Bill Clinton did -- as [Clinton adviser] Lanny Davis pointed out, the creation of 24 million jobs, turning budget deficits into budget surpluses -- that challenges the conventional wisdom." And I think the Clintons were therefore justified to go after Barack Obama.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI (co-host): Well, it was a nice, spirited debate between Lanny and Joe. And I think it's fair also to bring up that sound bite as well.

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SHUSTER: And yet, Craig Crawford, it's probably not a bad general-election strategy for Barack Obama, who's hoping to try and get independents and Republicans to join him, to talk about Ronald Reagan, to a certain extent. And yet this is a Democratic primary right now.

CRAWFORD: I know. On the political level, I think those are grand things for him to be saying, as you say, and probably good stuff for a general election. But when you're trying to get those hard-core partisans out to a caucus, which is a very difficult thing to do, and only the most, you know, faithful party partisans generally show up, even though others can show up, it's kind of a weird message to be, you know, just politically speaking, to be putting out.

I'm glad you clarified that. I was going a little nuts earlier this morning when Joe was reacting there to Clinton, because Clinton was not reacting to the tape that you were showing earlier. And it was the comment where -- that you just now showed -- that Clinton was reacting to. And I think there's a tendency here -- I know what's going on. It's all about an old journalistic rule, which is we afflict the comfortable. And so I think that's why many times, many of us in the media tend to gang up on the Clintons. Because they're very comfortable, they're very powerful, and I think sometimes we're actually a little unfair to them, but maybe that's just how it goes.

SHUSTER: Well, I think some people are certainly unfair. There was another cable-news organization that rhymes with "clocks" that said that Bill Clinton had completely lost his cool and blown up at a reporter there from Oakland, when, in fact, when you see the clip of Bill Clinton reacting to that reporter, he's just being very firm. But, you know, that's their standards, and we have ours.

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    • Author by jpmclaw6920 (January 20, 2008 3:35 pm ET)
         

      It is easy to gang up because the same things happen over and over again.  It just seems like they have said Hillary lectures to the crowd a thousand times because she has.

      She did cry.  The media ran the clips. No one wanted to believe people would change because of it.  They did.  The media was astonished, then admonished for discussing it.

      I think this is getting both ways.  And Bill attacking Obama is pissing me off.  Unprecidented.

      McCain/Clinton/Lieberman: They have very similar voting records in the Senate.

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    • Author by draftedin68 (January 20, 2008 3:37 pm ET)
         

      And then...

      I saw this.  After Shuster's comment, the subject was quickly changed.

      After all, we can't have anything like actual journalism on Joe's show.

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      • Author by tex (January 21, 2008 4:05 pm ET)
           

        The "Journalists are supposed to AFFLICT the COMFORTABLE" excuse just doesn't stand up.

        After all, for seven years, the most comfortable, powerful politicians around have been Bush and his crew ... and there has been almost NO attempt to "afflict" them with anything at all. Compliance, stenography, and ZERO scrutiny is how the press has approached the Bush Administration. Total fealty and lackyism.

        So, Nice Try, Craig ... but this excuse doesn't pass the most cursory sniff test. 

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    • Author by dave_chicago (January 20, 2008 3:46 pm ET)
         
      Shuster: "But, you know, that's their [Fox News'] standards, and we have ours."

      I agree with Shuster's point. But I wouldn't say Fox News has "standards". It's more like a partisan, anti-progressive, Republican agenda.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (January 20, 2008 6:13 pm ET)
         

      There's a nice four page sumation of our position and status on firedoglake by Ian Welsh. "Essential Insanity" is the title. Parts of it is an informative anaylsis of our political/economic elete.

      In the posts below it, the media figures that we see here are identified as part of the elete (Making Pat Buchanan his own worst enemy).

      Fox News is only the most overt. I've heard their new economic (more business friendly than the rest) channel is doing, not so well. All of msm may come to be seen as cheerleading us into idiotic policy and economic positions. Or not, they will after all be given alot of time to point the finger at everyone else.

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    • Author by juliajayne (January 20, 2008 7:56 pm ET)
         
      I generally like Craig Crawford when he's on KO's show which I've been watching a whole year now, but his point about afflicting the comfortable is pretty fallacious since the major media just don't afflict the very comfortable running the show now. They just like to pile on the Clintons so they'll all be popular with their smirking buddies. I say the lot of them has no scruples and they just follow the "popular" kids. It's like grade school. 
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    • Author by conleytgwinn (January 20, 2008 10:47 pm ET)
         

      I should have a cut-and-paste positional statement ready - but I don't - so you will have to suffer through another imprecise statement: anyone who believed that corporations are not running the Obama campaign, and most of the others as well, is living in la-la land - and I don't mean Los Angeles. The two non-Corporate candidates I am certain of are Kucinich and Edwards, with Ron Paul possibly neutral, due to his antagonism toward government, though, he is silently a supporter of the great power-grab the Corporations have exploited over the past 27 years. I despise Corporatists, and view most Corporations with huge suspicion. So should all of you, for they are your natural enemy: more immortal than vampires, they are protected by our Judiciary from even staking and exposure to sunlight (the Fourth Amendment is now being supported by the Administration, and ultimately, the Repugnant Courts as protecting Corporations from production of records or physical search of premises for violations of the law). The non-persons have been accorded by our Courts all the other rights of human citizenship - including the very rights being daily stripped away from you mere persons - such as "free speech" - but have been tasked with none of the obligations of citizenship or personhood - such as being punished for criminal acts including homicide. The stockholders pay a fine, the lobbyist moves Congress to exempt the corrupt "creature" from even that small payment in the future, we legislate "tort reform" to exempt the "creature" from even civil liability, and in return the creature attempts to flee with our treasury to some more hospitable clime.

      Time to rein in this myth of "rights" for essentially immortal and practically invulnerable creations of twisting the law to favor these abominations.

       

       

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      • Author by young.matthew9801 (January 21, 2008 10:29 am ET)
           

        I should have a cut-and-paste positional statement ready - but I don't - so you will have to suffer through another imprecise statement: anyone who believed that corporations are not running the Obama campaign, and most of the others as well, is living in la-la land - and I don't mean Los Angeles.

         

        If that statement is merely "imprecise" boy, you must think the titanic was just "a boat." 

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    • Author by jeter2 (January 21, 2008 8:17 am ET)
         

      And so I think that's why many times, many of us in the media tend to gang up on the Clintons.

      Ya think?

      I'd also say the media is ganging up on Mitt Romney as well.

      IMO, I think the media wants McCain-Obama.

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    • Author by JLyons (January 21, 2008 1:56 pm ET)
         

      Sorry but Shuster has no credibility when talking about Standards" considering how MSNBC mocks the GOP candidates. One thing  I despise is two faced phonies like Shuster.

      http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/television/chris_keith_continue_to_laugh_at_gop_speeches_75384.asp

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      • Author by ufleirx (January 21, 2008 6:19 pm ET)
           
        Are you joking with the way Scarborough and Matthews stroke GOP candidates??!!!
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      • Author by jumboburrito (January 22, 2008 12:12 pm ET)
           
        Oh, please. This was very mild stuff. If you want mocking, look at what the media did with Howard Dean after the Iowa caucus in 2004. We saw the "scream" played over and over again.
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      • Author by harley (January 22, 2008 1:46 pm ET)
           

        Matthews has compared herr dubyah to Lincoln and stated herr dubyah should be on Mount Rushmore.  Yeah, poor, poor widdle GOP doesn't get a fair shake from MSNBC.

         

         

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    • Author by bcvb1949a (January 22, 2008 12:07 pm ET)
         

      MSNBC has no room to talk regarding Fox News.  MSNBC has turned into a Circus of losers.  Morning Joe starts the day with nothing of importance and Chris Matthews has been neutered by N.O.W. and this site MMFA.

      Viewers may dislike Fox News, but they are the channel that just tells it like it is.  You don't like it watch Keith Olbermann pander to the Clintons 

       

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      • Author by jumboburrito (January 22, 2008 12:16 pm ET)
           
        If by "like it is" you mean broadcast right wing disinformation, you are right. Remember Obama and the madrassas story that Fox broadcast and never corrected?
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      • Author by harley (January 22, 2008 1:56 pm ET)
           

        You don't like it watch Keith Olbermann pander to the Clintons

         

        Please describe in detail how Mr. Olbermann "panders" to the Clintons.

         

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