CNN's Glenn Beck: "[C]ongressional game-playing by Nancy Pelosi will end up killing Americans"
While discussing the expiration of the Protect America Act (PAA) on the February 18 edition of his CNN Headline News show, Glenn Beck claimed: "[President Bush] feels -- and I happen to agree with him -- that this congressional game-playing by [House Speaker] Nancy Pelosi will end up killing Americans." The blog Think Progress documented Beck's comments in a February 19 posting.
As Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented, on February 13, the House of Representatives voted on a 21-day extension of the PAA, which amended the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and, among other things, expanded the government's authority to eavesdrop on Americans' domestic-to-foreign communications without a warrant. All 195 House Republicans who cast a vote on the extension of the bill -- which Bush had said he would veto -- voted against it, and the measure failed, 229-191.
Pelosi noted in a February 13 statement that "the underlying Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which provides for the surveillance of terrorists and provides that in emergencies surveillance can begin without warrant, remains intact and available to our intelligence agencies."
From the February 18 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck:
BECK: Now, after 9-11, you remember we came up with all kinds of new -- aggressive new laws to combat a new kind of enemy. One of them was the Patriot Act. Another one was the Protection -- Protect America Act. This was an extension of our eavesdropping. It helped our government listen in and find terrorists.
Well, over the weekend, the House failed to pass this bill, which would have prevented the Protect America Act from lapsing -- an extension requested by the president. It's got a six-month sunset over and over again. He feels -- and I happen to agree with him -- that this congressional game-playing by Nancy Pelosi will end up killing Americans.
Now, what could be even more terrifying than that fact is that Congress may be acting with re-election in mind and not your safety. Critics are saying now that the House caved to special-interest groups, mostly trial lawyers who want the rights to sue these big, huge phone companies that release sensitive information to the government.
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Is Glenn Beck still sleeping with Larry Craig?
I'm just asking the question?
He says and I happen to agree with him that it's true...
Speaking of killing Americans, will someone please shoot me?
I'm so f_cking tired of bedwetters selling fear.
Speaking of killing Americans, someone help me out.
How many DEATHS of Americans has GW Bush been responsible for?
The 3000 on 9/11, that happened after NINE SOLID MONTHS of Bush totally ignoring the issue of terrorism, taking NO action to prevent or detect any plans, and further ignoring multiple warnings.
In my view, that blood is on HIS hands.
Then there's the 4000 dead so far in Iraq, sent there on FALSE rationales and based on LIES, following a NEW "preemptive strike" WAR policy Bush invented himself. Their deaths are absolutely his responsibility.
Then there's the 30,000+ soldiers who are dismembered and maimed, their lives will never be the same. This is not only a result of Bush starting an unnecessary WAR, but also by FAILING to properly equip our troops, by failing to send sufficient numbers of troops to get the job done, and by having INCOMPETENT LEADERSHIP (Rummy) directing the mission. All that blood and suffering is entirely on Bush, entirely his responsibility.
Then there's anywhere from 100,000 to a MILLION innocent Iraqis who have been "liberated to death". All on BUSH, their blood on HIS hands.
So yeah, Beck, by all means, let's talk about getting Americans killed. YOU were a big BUSH supporter, weren't you, BECK? I guess that means you SHARE the responsibility for all this senseless, needless death and suffering. Congrats.
[I realize, BECK, that the enormous growth-market for Rightwing Cheerleaders has provided you with a wonderful career. So there WAS a silver lining to this blood-soaked legacy, wasn't there? OTHERS have died, but you're doing GREAT. Haliburton's doing great as well, and Exxon.]
"FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!
WAR IS PEACE! FREEDOM IS SLAVERY! IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!"
Yeah, I'm sick of the right-wing fear-mongering too.
Obtaining a warrant for eavesdropping on Americans will result in their death at the hands of Pelosi.
Did I understand Beck correctly?
CNN...embarrassing themselves a little bit more, every day
BECK: “Critics are saying now that the House caved to special-interest groups, mostly trial lawyers who want the rights to sue these big, huge phone companies that release sensitive information to the government.“
Yeah Beav, it’s all about wanting “to sue these big, huge phone companies” – it’s always about money. ONLY IF YOU’RE A REPUBLICAN. It has nothing to do with the Constitution or individual right to privacy? Do you even mention either of the two REAL issues at hand here?
Snoop, thanks for the reminder, I saw Jacoby on Moyers show this weekend, and meant to pick up her book.
It's been interesting hearing the righty media go after Obama, equating "hope" with "wishful thinking" and "faith". The Oxymoron even tried to twist it into people "hoping" the government takes care of everything, as opposed to conservatives who have "desire", which of course, motivates them to action.
I think the real contrast is that the conservative line is not so much aspiring for improvement, but pretending ecerything's OK, and settling for a comfortable status quo.
colonel, I'm still trying to get it straight. HBL, right? You have to tell me the military aspect now, all I knew was you were from hungtingon beach and I had some prankish fun noting the "HBL" vs "OBL" moniker.
Marines?
Yeah, I was HBL, then during the MMFA maintenance, my account got all screwed up as I was trying to log on, so I decided to start over.I am the poster of change. Change you can believe in.
I have to admit, I missed the military presence we used to have hear, with the video game heroes (Col. Roy Campbell, Gen. Jack T. Ripper), so I decided to give myself a promotion.
I thought of starting as a private (Parkin, Pardy or Idaho), I considered Corporal Punishment , Major Malfunction, General Mills or Mayhem. Then as I was finally getting logged on, a KFC ad came on the tube, and I realized Col. Sanders had been completely eliminated from the business.It's a tribute to that fine man.
And, no, Air Force, flew with the Kentucky Fighting Condors (KFC 113th)
I have a better way to kill Americans. Send them into an illegal war. It's a sure thing. Or better still, perpetuate imperialist policies that foster resentment towards the United States. I believe the term for Osama bin Laden is blowback?
No, but actually Beck is right. Refusing to re-confirm the suppression of civil liberties is a real threat to the American people. Lap it up, friends.
that this congressional game-playing by [House Speaker] Nancy Pelosi will end up killing Americans."
..and then she'll blame the terrorist attack on Bush, while at the same time laughing all the way to the bank with the checks from the trial lawyers.
Stupid comments are The Stranger's specialty.
:-)
Yeah, those trial lawyers really have all the $$$.
I bet it's a pittance compared to the donations from big oil and big pharma that control the repubs.
..and then she'll blame the terrorist attack on Bush,
So you think Bush is going to let terrorists attack us because he couldn't get his way?
while at the same time laughing all the way to the bank with the checks from the trial lawyers.
And rightly so. The telecoms should get a pass for helping the Bush administration violate the rights of any American.
Fiendish I'm sure. Cheeze Whiz holding out there under the bed?
Check the label, was it produced by mad cows in China? I know the CDC would....whoops probably not. Well then the FDA will surelly..... Nah no help there either probably. Well then your medical provider will make it all as well as is economically feasable to do. And if you have to sell your house to pay your medical and "other" expenses while you can't work, well at least the market...sucks.
Keep smiling under there!
I have to agree here. I am against Americans being unnecessarily killed.
That's why I say let's get the hell out of Iraq right now!
Oh wait. You meant Americans being killed in some imaginary and unlikely scenario, didn't ya?
In case you all don't know, Copious Dissent is hit and run poster...he just toes the line of the misinformation, and sits back to watch us get angry with him. Gives him a rush I suppose, makes him feel good about himself. He never has anything of substance to say, and is only worthy of ignoring.
Oh, and if you want a good laugh, you should listen to their youtube "radio show." It's laughable in its ignorance.
Dissent:
It will not kill Americans. End of story.
Enough with the trial lawyers garbage. Most of those suits are not going to cost the telcos a dime because they lack standing and they fail to show damages. For all I care the congress can go ahead and pass out a total retroactive CIVIL liability clause.
But leave them on the hook for criminal charges because that is the real power in this case. The telcos are just the minions of a criminal administration and leaving them open to criminal charges is the only way to get them to cooperate in an investigation of just how this program was really used and abused.
Sorry, Moonbat. CompliantConsent already said "End of story!" That makes his pussy paranoia beyond debate.
"It will kill Americans"... that was the entire argument. What a bunch of pantywaist embarrassments to America you dittoheads are. .
Beck has little to worry about for any of his antics. He can always find a job with Disney doing the voice-over for Goofy. Hell, for that matter, they won’t even need to draw the animation. "A-hyuck!" "Huh?"
I've come to the belief that this administration is so INCOMPETENT and utterly scared to death of another attack on their watch that they will break any law, violate the constitution, trample civil rights, just do anything, legal or not, so another attack will somehow, someway not happen before 2009.
Senator Rockefeller, hardly your typical conservative, was quoted as saying that failure to pass the bill has already degraded our intelligence gathering ability. He focused primarily on the liability issue pertaining to the telcos. He said they are refusing to cooperate where it is not clear that they have no liability, and well they should.
Personally, I don't care. As I wrote earlier, any attack is likely to be in a large city, like ny, boston, chicago, la, sf, etc. these cities have decidedly liberal majorities, so most of the casualties will be liberals. can't complain about that.
A different opinion is a poisonous thing indeed.
And who is the arbiter of whether an opinion is unwanted or not? Do you realize that a power to decide which speech is unwanted and which is desireable can be used against us? What is free speech if some governmental department decides if it is legal?
You may certainly decry the opinions of others but do not say they should be prohibhited from voicing their opinions.
By the way, Hstybf's comments that it would be alright if large cities were annihilated because of their high liberal concentration, were said with an intent at irony that i believe was fully achieved. If you think that he was dead serious in his comments then you must have your head really far up your arse.
Baloney. There was no ironic intent. The word does not mean what you think it means. It does NOT mean this is an excuse to say any offensive and hateful thing I want and its NOT a get out of jail free card to say you cant criticise me its ironic. This is a message board. Trolls should go away. Their intent is to provoke and to derail threads to sabotage the discussion. That is unacceptable and they should go away. I couldnt care less if you dont agree. I am not saying he cant say whatever he wants in the park, or on the streetcorner. This site has a purpose. Coming here with the INTENT to sabotage that purpose is WRONG and decent people ought not to do it.
Irony does not serve to excuse the comments nor as a "get out of jail free card", rather it just indicates that the comment should be taken with a grain of good humor and understanding.
Hstybf said:"these cities have decidedly liberal majorities, so most of the casualties will be liberals. can't complain about that."
It is ironic that those who are most most anti-war and do not reprimand those that would kill them would be the ones first killed if the terrorists exerted their full capabilities on one of our densely populated cities. It is ironic because there is a concentration of liberals in large cities that are the greatest targets.
I do not think that Hstybf was engaging in trolling as you defined it, certainly his comment may have been off-topic to the original article but i believe he was opening new discussion rather then derailing the current one. This is a free board where a difference of opinion presented in an intelligent fashion serves to add greater interest to an otherwise boring cacophony of liberal back-scratching.
BUNK irony is saying something when you mean something DIFFERENT than you mean for contrast and often the opposite of what you mean. What he was saying was he wouldnt complain if a city filled mostly with liberals was attacked so a lot of liberals would DIE. That is not ironic. Hateful, ignorant, stupid, soulless, all those things irony NO. Your ignorant take on liberals not criticising terrorists is not only more of your patented abject stupidity its also way overdone. We know your hivemind masters told you to believe this and repeat it whenever possible but its just stupid and reaffirms what a fool you are. Hstryvrmin was showing his lack of basic decency and ignorance, just like you are showing yours defending such a lack. He was being a troll saying something provacative with no other purpose but to dig at us and derail the thread. It really isnt our fault you are too dumb to see the obvious.
HstyBuff, R.I.P.
In the end, you can't help but feel sorry for anybody who's so twisted apart by hate that he'd write something like that. He's not amusing, he's certainly not going to bring any (rational) person over to his point of view, and he's going to alienate any legitimate conservatives.
A moment of silence, please, for HstyBuff's credibility. From now on, it would be best to ignore his every utterance. He is beyond help.
Hsty,
You are a sick, sick man. I care if liberals, conservatives or any people are killed. Take your racism and hate elsewhere, please.
Don't you live in LA? Or did you move back to Texas? So as long as liberals get killed it's OK? Was 9.11 OK then since a majority of New Yorkers vote democrat in their ballots? Same for DC? It was OK because there are a majority of democrats living in those areas? Come on now, you made the assertion, so buck up, take credit for past attacks being OK already.
I'd LOVE to see you walk through "liberal" Boston and run your mouth, and then watch you get stomped down and beat like a red headed step child (no offense meant to red headed step children sincerly, just using a turn of phrase if you will). I love psedo tough conservatives like yourself, who would pee their pants at the first sign of an altercation, of course, you'd probably threaten them with a lawsuit (being the lawyerly lawyer that you are), and then tell them that you know some famous people, and you'd still get beat down.
are you saying that liberals concentrated in large cities are unnaturally violent that they would put aside their mask of tolerance and attack Hstybf?
It is interesting, the hypocrisy. the supposedly most tolerant of dogmas [liberalism] is the one that exacts the most hate upon a disliked point of view.