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Luntz: "Jimmy Carter was the first female president"

March 05, 2008 5:16 pm ET

On Fox News' Fox & Friends, while discussing the electability of Sen. Hillary Clinton with a focus group in Ohio, pollster Frank Luntz called Jimmy Carter "the first female president."

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During the March 5 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, while discussing the electability of Sen. Hillary Clinton with a focus group of young voters at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio, pollster Frank Luntz claimed that "Hillary Clinton would not be the first female president. Jimmy Carter was the first female president."

Media Matters for America has previously highlighted comments Luntz made in front of focus groups he was conducting for Fox. During a March 2 edition of Fox News' America's Election HQ, Luntz falsely asserted to a focus group that Sen. Barack Obama "doesn't have foreign policy experience." On the February 21 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, while discussing a debate between Obama and Clinton, he asked a focus group: "[H]ow many of you want them to make love to each other?"

Luntz also reportedly has a history of reprimand and censure by his peers. In 1997, the American Association for Public Opinion Research reprimanded Luntz for refusing to release documentation in support of comments he made to the media regarding his polling work on the Contract with America, according to a 2000 Salon.com article. Similarly, Washington Post polling director Richard Morin reported in 2000 that the National Council on Public Polls "censured pollster Frank Luntz for allegedly mischaracterizing on MSNBC the results of focus groups he conducted during the [2000] Republican Convention."

From the March 5 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

LUNTZ: You guys -- how many of you saw Saturday Night Live? Did it humanize Hillary Clinton to you, or did it ridicule her?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't think it ridiculed her at all. I think that, you know, she is who she is, and that's, you know, how she stands for, so --

LUNTZ: Do you think she's electable?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think she's very electable. You know, a lot of the hot stuff about Hillary is, you know, people -- since she's a woman running for the highest position in the world, she has to, you know, position herself in a place where she can be electable, and I think that she is. She has come out hard against a lot of issues, and as we just saw in this clip, you know, it's easy to see that she really is sincere in everything that she says.

LUNTZ: Andrew?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, but sound bites and tears or not, there's one person qualified to be the commander in chief, and that's John McCain. You know, the other candidates have this myth of experience, and McCain is the one with real experience.

LUNTZ: And by the way, Hillary Clinton would not be the first female president. Jimmy Carter was the first female president.

ALISYN CAMEROTA (co-host): Hey. All right, we have so much more with all the students from Ohio University. We'll be right back.

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    • Author by nerzog (March 05, 2008 5:21 pm ET)
         
      Wow. What a rapier wit this guy has. Yawn.
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      • Author by TopekaMan (March 05, 2008 8:45 pm ET)
           
        I think that you meant that he has a rapist's wit.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 05, 2008 9:09 pm ET)
           

        Exactly what was the joke here? I don't get it.

        Jokes are supposed to be funny. And what's the reference point that's supposed to tickle the wit? I don't get the female part. 

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    • Author by dbeden4153 (March 05, 2008 5:24 pm ET)
         

      There's that "neutrality" coming out of him.

      I'll tell you what, since he seems to believe that Democrats are a bunch of sissies, if Luntz ever sees this, I hereby formally challenge him to a no holds-barred throwdown (even though I'm not technically a Democrat.)  And I'm not kidding.  I will literally fight this man if I thought he had the balls to take me on.

      Of course, Frank here doesn't like to be touched.  So I assume he'd just sit back and throw un-witty retorts in my direction. 

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    • Author by nerzog (March 05, 2008 5:27 pm ET)
         
      Now we know who was writing the "jokes" for the "Half Hour News Hour".
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      • Author by dangrady (March 05, 2008 7:40 pm ET)
           

        SAVE DEMOCRACY, VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!

        Jimmy Carter was a premier nuclear submarine commander considered one of the Navy's top sub commanders before his father died and he had to take over the farm. He traversed the world, navigated under the ice cap, and was to be one of the Navy's up and coming brass.

        Jimmy Carter after loosing his gubernatorial race took a year off, in his 50's, to work as a missionary in South Philadelphia in some of the meanest streets in America while Philly was at that time had the most racially ignorant police department in America. He knocked on doors to prosaltize in neighborhoods that Luntz would not be caught dead in.

        Jimmy Carter refused to negotiate with terrorists, Ron Reagan traded guns for hostages with a secret deal before his election so he could act tough for the election. He sold drugs to Americans to finance an illegal war and sent Marines into a bloody civil war with little idea what their misson was that cost 241 Marines in Beriut and another 80 in the mountains.

        Luntz never served a day in uniform. Luntz has never served anyone that didn't pay through the nose.

        Manhood in the Republican eyes is a very confusing thing to be sure!

        Happy Thoughts;

        Dan Grady

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    • Author by snoopy (March 05, 2008 5:35 pm ET)
         

      Ronald Raygun was the 1st Alzenheimer's president.

      Bush 1 was the 1st Botox president (read my lips!)

      And Bush 2 is the 1st chimpanzee president.

      There.

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      • Author by jeter2 (March 05, 2008 5:43 pm ET)
           

        And Bush 2 is the 1st chimpanzee president.

        Thanks Snoop I almost choked on my coffee laughing ;-)

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        • Author by tman418 (March 05, 2008 6:14 pm ET)
             
          I can add to that.

          Richard Nixon was the first "1984 Big Brother" president (attempting to monitor Democrats).

          Al Gore was the first "royally screwed" president.
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        • Author by snoopy (March 05, 2008 6:43 pm ET)
             

          Hey Jeter, Here's a shot of curious george with the british bulldog!

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 05, 2008 6:31 pm ET)
           

        George W. Bush is also the first Cheerleader Presidnt that I'm aware of.

        Go USA! Fight! Fight! Fight! Yaaay...! <leaping into the air enthusiastically>

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 05, 2008 6:34 pm ET)
           

        One more... George W. Bush is the first Crap in His Pants Scared President while the country was under attack.

        "Uhhh..how about another chapter of that goat story since we got some timr to kill, class?"

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      • Author by Dem02020 (March 05, 2008 6:50 pm ET)
           

         

        In all seriousness, I believe James Earl Carter, Jr. is the first (and only) U.S. President to be a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis Maryland (Bachelor of Science degree in physics in 1946, he was 59th in a Class of 820).

        Of further interest is the fact, that Mr. Carter is descended from a Soldier in the Confederate States Army (his great-grandfather, Walker Carter). That may be a first also, a U.S. President descended from a Confederate Soldier... I don't know.

        He must be our only President to ever command a submarine in the U.S. Navy. Whether he is the only U.S. President to hold an engineering degree, or even a science degree, I also don't know, but it might be true.

        Former President Carter is certainly not the first U.S. President to be a farmer, as that would have to be Gen. Washington, and perhaps several others, back in that time... but Mr. Carter is almost certainly the last (so far) President we have had, to be a farmer.

         

        I'm of the opinion we could use more farmers as Presidents, be they like Gen. Washington or Lieutenant Carter... as a matter of fact, it seems that the rigors of farming and of Military Command are such, as to achieve and excel at either one, requires a certain amount of "potency"... to meet and exceed the rigors and challenges of both farming and Military Command, is rare and found in few men, such as it is found in former Presidents Washington and Carter...

        And it seems a strange insult to call Mr. Carter a woman... as strange as it would be to have called Gen. Washington a woman.

         

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        • Author by IRONY 101 (March 05, 2008 7:01 pm ET)
             
          Jimmy Carter may also be the last religious President not to flaunt it intrusively.
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          • Author by Dem02020 (March 05, 2008 7:21 pm ET)
               

             

            I thought of that after I commented, to mention Mr. Carter's religious faith.

            It would be ridiculous to have said he was the first religious man to be U.S. President, or the first Christian (the tone of the thread being kicked off by luntz's stupid comment, about what Mr. Carter might have been the "first" of, of our Presidents).

            I think this of Mr. Carter's faith: Who can truly fathom the depths of any man's faith? We can't truly know, because we can't go to the place where that faith is found, to see if it is there. But we can see a man's actions in this world, and hear his words, and over time watch those actions and hear those words, and note to what degree they shift or degrade or otherwise undergo something to make us think them insincere, and merely "public professions" of a truly unverifiable faith...

            I have not the least doubt as to the sincerity of Mr. Carter's faith, and of his devout Christianity.

            There is no word or act of the man I have ever heard or seen, in all the years I have watched the man in his public life, to make me ever think he was less than the best of all Christians: The True Believer.

            I don't know about "first" or "only" when it comes to that, in regard to U.S. Presidents.

            But it sure seems rare.

             

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            • Author by IRONY 101 (March 05, 2008 7:26 pm ET)
                 
              I respected him because he didn't try to use his religious beliefs for political purposes, as a certain sitting President did, or to allow his beliefs to interfere  with his Constitutional duties. He was a flop as President but he's still an extraordinary man.
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        • Author by oscar the grouch (March 05, 2008 8:04 pm ET)
             
          Dem2020, Carter was not the only engineer to serve as President, H Hoover was also an engineer.  Even though I practice that profession also, I would in all cases never vote for another engineer for President, seeing how the two I mentioned turned out.  There was a third President that practiced an engineering related profession, can you name him?
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 05, 2008 9:53 pm ET)
               
             Truman worked for the Santa fe, but I don't think he was an engineer.
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            • Author by oscar the grouch (March 05, 2008 9:55 pm ET)
                 
              Probably just a conductor.
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              • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 05, 2008 10:20 pm ET)
                   
                Probably not even full time.Should I stop before the semi-conductor joke?
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                • Author by oscar the grouch (March 05, 2008 11:18 pm ET)
                     
                  Probably, and I should apologize to Solon for saying "just a conductor." Should not have use just, had an uncle that was a conductor and he was very important in the operation of the train.
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              • Author by solon (March 06, 2008 10:30 am ET)
                   
                JUST a conductor? Hey the engineer works for ME. He calls me boss.
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    • Author by jeter2 (March 05, 2008 5:35 pm ET)
         

      Jimmy Carter was the first female president.

      Huh? What is that supposed to even mean?

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      • Author by fawltylogic (March 05, 2008 5:43 pm ET)
           
        I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it means that he's a female president by virtue of being a Democrat?
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      • Author by MiddleLeft (March 05, 2008 6:14 pm ET)
           

        What is that supposed to even mean?

        It's a gratuitous remark intended to imply that Carter is a WUSS, a weakling, ...like a woman.  Luntz comes out with these kinds of remarks when he gets peeved by statements with which he disagrees.  The unidentified male was making some favorable remarks about HRC and he didn't like it.  Not knowing what else to say he blurts out schoolyard taunt.

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        • Author by Lynn (March 05, 2008 6:21 pm ET)
             
          It also seems that the wussiest looking men like to call other men wusses, Tucker Carlson comes to mine. These two, Luntz and Carlson aren't exactly the prototype of masculinity so they probably shouldn't go where they go, questioning another man's male bon fides that is.
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          • Author by Clevenative (March 05, 2008 6:43 pm ET)
               
            Thanks Lynn - I was gonna make a comment like this - But it sounds so much more credible coming from a woman.:)
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 05, 2008 9:11 pm ET)
           

        yeah, where's the joke?

        I saw Luntz do that in front of those students. They laughed. Is this the new college humor? Give me Rudy Vallee.

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    • Author by dazedandconfused26 (March 05, 2008 5:42 pm ET)
         
      I guess Jimmy is a woman because he is such a nice guy? Guess that would mean by luntz's opinion and logic hillary would be a dude?
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    • Author by mary59 (March 05, 2008 5:50 pm ET)
         
      Jimmy Carter promotes peaceful elections and diplomacy to conflict resolution around the world. He promotes Habitat for Humanity and participates in their home building. The Carter Center advocates for disease control around the world and has worked to eradicate liver fluke blindness.

      And Frank Duntz? Distorts and obscures to promote his reactionary party's agenda.
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    • Author by NewUserName25 (March 05, 2008 5:53 pm ET)
         
      I hate it when soft, overweight, weak men question the masculinity of others. Rush, Hannity, Beck...all of them would lose in a fight to a 9th grader, and they know it. Sometimes I think the entire foundation of neoconservatisim is the posturing of frail, anemic men.
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      • Author by atheist (March 05, 2008 6:02 pm ET)
           
        I so agree !!  These puds are hardly the arbiters of masculinity.
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    • Author by dazedandconfused26 (March 05, 2008 5:57 pm ET)
         

      dont forget impotent.

      Newuser

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    • Author by DTF (March 05, 2008 5:58 pm ET)
         

      Former Pres. Carter is a statesman.  He gives every indication that he is a fine man, an intelligent man, a compassionate man, and it sure seems like he lives and breathes the tenets of his faith.

      Maybe it is because Pres. Carter would prefer to confront our problems with speech and understanding rather than weapons and violence, maybe that is why this pollster feels free to insult.

      Mr. Luntz's claim to fame is producing words and phrases that "resonate" with his audience, words and phrases that make bad things seem good and good things sound bad.  What value is he adding to our nation?  None.

      And I don't see a US Flag lapel pin there buddy! :)

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    • Author by atheist (March 05, 2008 6:04 pm ET)
         
      Why is being female an insult to these soft white men ?  Are they feeling a little bit emasculated themselves, and so they take it out on others ?
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      • Author by Lynn (March 05, 2008 6:24 pm ET)
           
        I've always wonder why they do this myself. When men like this want intend to insult other men they always in some form or fasion end up calling them a woman or woman like.
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 05, 2008 6:39 pm ET)
             
          But never right to their faces.
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        • Author by Clevenative (March 05, 2008 7:11 pm ET)
             

          This is one that most women won’t get. They are subconsciously lashing out and projecting their angst at all the insensitive bullies in school who mocked them for womanlike features like a lack of body hair or a plump buxom body lacking muscle tone. It's much like the phenomenon of any other cycle of childhood abuse. Take it from me, some childhood traumas stays with you a lifetime – and some of the bullies never grow up (Arnold’s “girly man” comments).

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 05, 2008 6:19 pm ET)
         
      I have not been a fan of former president Carter but to call him the first female president is absolutly  pathetic. But what else would you expect from these loony right wing talking heads. 
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    • Author by solon (March 05, 2008 7:08 pm ET)
         
      Luntz is the first anacephalic pundit
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    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 05, 2008 7:35 pm ET)
         

      Check out his bio on Wiki.  He thinks Orwellian is a POSITIVE term:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz

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    • Author by U NO HOO (March 05, 2008 8:40 pm ET)
         

      "There was a third President that practiced an engineering related profession, can you name him?"

       

       Yassir Arafat?

       

      Ike? 

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      • Author by oscar the grouch (March 06, 2008 2:57 pm ET)
           
        George Washington was a surveyor early in his career (1750s-1760s), There may be others, but if so their names escape me.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (March 05, 2008 8:50 pm ET)
         
      We had a navy sub skipper. This time we have a chance to elect a fighter jock. I can't think why they don't play that up more.<snark off>
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    • Author by No Blood for Hubris (March 05, 2008 9:26 pm ET)
         

      More sexism touted proudly on the public airwaves of America.

       

      Shame. 

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    • Author by No Blood for Hubris (March 05, 2008 9:27 pm ET)
         

      "This is one that most women won’t get."

       

      Are you frickin' kidding? 

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    • Author by puttforever4682 (March 06, 2008 7:10 am ET)
         
      Under President Carter we had such an oil crisis, that the their was a real push to develop alternative energies  and more efficient  vehicles. I thought when i bought my Vw Superbeetle (SUN BUG) it would be my last conventional gasoline fueled auto.  Then Reagan was elected and all the energy independence and automobile efficiencies  never materialized.  Will this happen again if  McCain is elected?
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      • Author by pete592 (March 06, 2008 11:10 am ET)
           
        "The crises in Iran and Afghanistan have dramatized a very important lesson: Our excessive dependence on foreign oil is a clear and present danger to our Nation's security. The need has never been more urgent. At long last, we must have a clear, comprehensive energy policy for the United States.

        As you well know, I have been working with the Congress in a concentrated and persistent way over the past 3 years to meet this need. We have made progress together. But Congress must act promptly now to complete final action on this vital energy legislation. Our Nation will then have a major conservation effort, important initiatives to develop solar power, realistic pricing based on the true value of oil, strong incentives for the production of coal and other fossil fuels in the United States, and our Nation's most massive peacetime investment in the development of synthetic fuels."  --- Jimmy Carter, 1980 State of the Union Address.

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    • Author by perry88 (March 06, 2008 12:14 pm ET)
         
      So let's see: Clinton was the first Black President and Carter is the first female President, so that would make George W. Bush the first idiot President.
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