Gingrich, Hume criticize Obama for invoking his grandmother in the context of Wright
Responding to Barack Obama's noting, in addressing controversial statements made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, that his white grandmother had "uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes," Newt Gingrich said on Fox News: To reduce a 20-year relationship with a public figure to his grandmother is just wrong. It's emotionally powerful, but it's just wrong." Separately, Fox News' Brit Hume said of Obama's statement: "[S]ome may find it deceptive, but ... it was pretty clever."
Appearing on the March 18 edition of Fox News' Your World, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) blasted Sen. Barack Obama's March 18 speech on race and politics as "intellectually, fundamentally dishonest," and specifically objected to Obama's statement: "I can no more disown [former Trinity United Church of Christ pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright] than I can my white grandmother -- a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe." According to Gingrich: "To reduce a 20-year relationship with a public figure to his grandmother is just wrong. It's emotionally powerful, but it's just wrong." Gingrich did not explain how Obama's invocation of his grandmother "reduce[d]" his relationship with Wright, or why doing so was "just wrong."
Earlier, on the March 18 edition of Fox News' Happening Now, Fox News Washington bureau managing editor Brit Hume claimed that "some may find" that same portion of Obama's speech "deceptive." After co-host Jane Skinner called the statement "pretty clever," Hume asserted: "It is one thing, it seems to me, however, for his own grandmother, a white woman of an earlier generation, to speak of her trepidation at a black man on the street and to occasionally utter a racially tinged comment, than for Reverend Wright, in this day and age, from the pulpit of a Christian church, to be uttering the kind of things that he was uttering. But Obama did his best to connect them, and to find some strength for his argument in that way. It was -- some may find it deceptive, but, as you suggest, it was pretty clever."
From the March 18 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto:
CAVUTO: Did Obama succeed today? With us now, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, author of the best seller Real Change: From the World That Fails to the World That Works. What do you think, Newt?
GINGRICH: Look, I think it was a great speech, and I think he is a great speech maker. And I also think it was intellectually, fundamentally dishonest. To reduce a 20-year relationship with a public figure to his grandmother is just wrong. It's emotionally powerful, but it's just wrong.
The core question that Senator Obama has to answer is very simple. For 20 years he was a member of a church where he now says his pastor -- a public figure -- was saying things -- forget that they were hateful; forget that they were divisive -- they were wrong. They were fundamentally, factually wrong. And yet Senator Obama, this figure of change, never once had the courage, never once thought it was his job to sit down with this person who is so close to him he can't repudiate him, and say to him, "You know, Reverend, you know I respect you, but you're just wrong about these things. They're not true."
From the March 18 edition of Fox News' Happening Now:
SKINNER: Yeah, let's talk about some of the words that he used. He did repudiate the statements that Reverend Wright made. He said, "As Reverend Wright's comments were not only wrong, but were divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity." He didn't break with him, though. He said, "He has been like family to me," and I thought this paragraph was pretty clever: "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother." He goes on to say how much she loves him, but that she had "confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe." Your thoughts?
HUME: That's pretty good stuff, isn't it? I mean, he manages at once to connect himself to Reverend Wright, Reverend Wright to the black community, and then himself to the world of white people through references to his own grandmother. It is one thing, it seems to me, however, for his own grandmother, a white woman of an earlier generation, to speak of her trepidation at a black man on the street and to occasionally utter a racially tinged comment, than for Reverend Wright, in this day and age, from the pulpit of a Christian church, to be uttering the kind of things that he was uttering. But Obama did his best to connect them, and to find some strength for his argument in that way. It was -- some may find it deceptive, but, as you suggest, it was pretty clever.
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I don't normally like reposting responses, but since you were stupid enough to use EXACTLY the same argument here as on another thread, I feel compelled to respond in kind:
"Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.
"None of these statements were ones that I had heard myself personally in the pews."
"If you had heard any of those things would you have quit the church?" And he said, "Absolutely, I would have quit the church."
"Barack Hussein Obama (D-IL) is a flat-out, bold-faced LIAR"
Are you REALLY incapable of seeing that these are NOT the same statement? REALLY, really? He was given a list of quotes and he said they were NOT statments he heard personally. The first statement is that yes, he DID hear controversial statements with which he disagreed.
NOTHING in those responses from him give any indication WHATSOEVER that the quotes he was given were the ones he PERSONALLY heard.
You get an E- on comprehension. You need to go back and work on it more.
Solon's point is correct-- Obama disingenuously last week tried to infer that he wasn't aware of this stuff in Wright.
Plus, you shouldn't badmouth your grandma in public. Especially a politician.
What if Hillary had done that? You guys would be all over her, calling her all sorts of names!
Obama: You know, I guess, keep in mind that just to provide more context, this is somebody who I'd known for 20 years. Pastor Wright had been a pastor for 30 years. He's an ex-Marine. He is somebody who is a Biblical scholar, has spoken at theological seminaries all across the country from the University of Chicago to Hampton. And so he is a well-regarded preacher, and somebody who is known for talking about the social gospel.
But most of the time when I'm in church, he's talking about Jesus, God, faith, values, caring for the poor, family. Those were the messages that I was hearing. And so, you know, I think that the statements that have been strung together are compiled out of hundreds of sermons that he delivered over the course his lifetime. But, obviously, they are ones that are, from my perspective, completely unacceptable and inexcusable.
And if I had thought that was the tenor or tone on an ongoing basis of his sermons, then yes, I don't think that it would've been reflective of my values or my faith experience.
HE DID NOT BAD MOUTH HIS GRANDMOTHER!!!!!!
He told the truth to a country that needed to hear racism A. still exist and B. comes from white, black, hispanic, muslim and jew. The point wasn't his freakin grandmother. The point was a woman that loved him saw things through racial bias, despite his own ethnicity.
If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, perception is in the minds of fools. This isn't a debate, he wasn't taking a shot at his grandmother. Is he taking a shot at his father when he says he was raised by a single mother? Is he taking a shot at Islam when he responds to questions about his faith that he's a Christian?
He told the truth using a personal experience to illustrate a broader problem in our society people!!! Jeez o'flip.
Listen to the man himself. Hume and Gingrich are up to, let me guess, tricking you into believing their side of the story?
http://pol.moveon.org/obamaspeech/?id=12333-7672431-gUy3PI&t=545
Look, I've been to fundamentalist white Christian churches where the boisterous, white, southern-drawl preacher lambasted the United States of America for its failure to uphold the teachings of the living God (the Bible). I sat through it, and I shook my head in agreement. Our government and its policies have been teetering on the threshold of shame for well over a century; the last eight years have seen the worst of it. But this is not to say that not a single individual in this country has the right and the obligation to disagree, to fight for a reversal, to stand tall, strong, honest, and to invoke a dialog of hope and reconciliation against the fear-mongering, deceit, and phony soundbite intellectualism that are breaking our country to pieces.
Reverand Wright is a free man. He simply speaks truth to power, and invites his congregation to question the course of conquest and self-righteousness. An intelligent individual can see right past the nasty words, but a shallow one will pull them aside and dwell on them, assume guilt by association, and assume that the media has found the gotcha moment and alone can frame the course of our dialog and our future.
"Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear." --Bertrand Russell
Obama knows Wright. Obama attends this church. Obama is an exceptionally bright, well-spoken, and highly moral man by every conceivable standard. Who are you, out there, to judge this relationship, to question his allegiance to a Holy gathering place, or to believe that your assessment comes remotely near a conclusive understanding of one odd Sunday moment? Think people. For the love of God, think!
"None of these statements were ones that I had heard myself personally in the pews."
Your first post is filled with assumptions [again] and then you came to an asinine conclusion based on your assumptions.
You guys, don't try to defend Obama here. It's an impossibility. He clearly tried to insinuate last week that he never heard similar inflammatory comments, and now he's admitting that he did.
Also, what kind of guy-- a presidential candidate-- has for a "spiritual advisor" a "preacher" who says "god damn America" (remember, he's a man of the cloth) and who also claims that the CIA planted AIDS in the ghetto?
What a joke. It's over for Obama. O-V-E-R.
Carlileb is damaged. So is jamele and atheist. They are born cynics, hence their sneering fealty to Clinton. Hers is a cynic's campaign
Yesterday at the start of Obama's speech I was on the fence, didn't have any loyalties one way or the other for either candidate. By the end of the speech I had volunteered to join the campaign to make Barack Obama the next president.
I know I'm not the only one who was so moved by his speech.
This ain't over by a long shot.
Also, what kind of guy-- a presidential candidate-- has for a "spiritual advisor" a "preacher" who says "god damn America" (remember, he's a man of the cloth) and who also claims that the CIA planted AIDS in the ghetto?
For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.”
By the end of the experiment, 28 of the men had died directly of syphilis, 100 were dead of related complications, 40 of their wives had been infected, and 19 of their children had been born with congenital syphilis. How had these men been induced to endure a fatal disease in the name of science? To persuade the community to support the experiment, one of the original doctors admitted it “was necessary to carry on this study under the guise of a demonstration and provide treatment.”
The story finally broke in the Washington Star on July 25, 1972, in an article by Jean Heller of the Associated Press. Her source was Peter Buxtun, a former PHS venereal disease interviewer and one of the few whistle blowers over the years. The PHS, however, remained unrepentant, claiming the men had been “volunteers” and “were always happy to see the doctors,” and an Alabama state health officer who had been involved claimed “somebody is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.”
The PHS did not accept the media's comparison of Tuskegee with the appalling experiments performed by Nazi doctors on their Jewish victims during World War II. Yet in addition to the medical and racist parallels, the PHS offered the same morally bankrupt defense offered at the Nuremberg trials: they claimed they were just carrying out orders, mere cogs in the wheel of the PHS bureaucracy, exempt from personal responsibility.
Maybe a preacher remembering the Tuskegee Experiment might have a reason to distrust "his government".
Maybe a preacher remembering the Tuskegee Experiment might have a reason to distrust "his government".
None of us should EVER forget the Tuskegee Experiment, Pearlene.
and, there's this on CNN:
Did Tuskegee damage trust on clinical trials?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/03/17/clinical.trials.ap/index.html
That's right on, Pearlene. That's what Obama was talking about, trust and the tragedy and the enmity born of trust betrayed.
You guys, don't try to defend Obama here.
Defending Barack Obama (or any other political candidate, for that matter) is not the function of MMFA, or the subject of this thread. We're here to discuss misinformation being propagated by the media.
Obama is a LIAR???
Hardeee-har-har-har... ;>)
All I know is that after Obama's brilliant and inspiring speech today all I heard from the right wing media was panic. Limbaugh and Hannity were both sputtering like someone had spiked their drinks with LSD. Today, Obama spoke the truth like no American politician has before. Get used to it, Swine...your side looks like the petty rancorous crowd it is.
Well, obviously, YOU don't, or you wouldn't be acting so brazenly ignorant and partisan on this board.
Btw, his grandmother reference resonated powerfully with me. My mom's mom was, a lot of the time, a fun feisty person to be with. But when it came to matters of race -- well, I can remember at least two occassions when she went off the deep end. Once, when I revealed I was a Beatles fan, she launched into a diatribe about "jungle music" (even though the song I had chosen to hum a bar or two to her was "Anna"). I also recall the occassion when she bitterly complained how all the peepholes in her apartment complex were being stolen by black kids. Only she didn't use "black." She was, shall we say, not terribly hesitant about using the N-word.
But I still loved her and looked forward to our games of gin rummy. And mourned her passing several years ago.
I get it Carlisle. You don't.
Sorry, that's "Carlile" isn't it.
Oh, and another btw: I'm white.
What are you going to do cut paste this garbage on every thread?
I just flagged Solonswine's original post as spam. Lets see what the folks who operate this forum think of his tactics.
Barack Hussein Obama (D-IL) is a flat-out, bold-faced LIAR.
And Solonswine is a flat-out, bold-faced moron.
WZ,
Too bad your OPINION doesn't alter FACTS.
Obama evaded the fact last week that this Wright guy was not, in his experience, inflammatory.
Now he admits that-- well just maybe-- he was.... a little....
Obama's toast. The Repubs will have a field day with this "spiritual advisor" come November.
Thank God that Senator McBush has called Rev. Hagee a great spiritual advisor.
P.S. The dems will sweep that god damn cons out of office 60-40.
P.S.#2 Reasonable people, especially you good, white Christians now have something to rally your bigotry around. Go for it. Aliar, I don't think so. And I thought you cons were above gotcha politics. Settle down, get off the coffee, relax and see what happens. And if the Democrats elect a LIAR that will be proof that you cons have become insignificant and Rush is still making a fortune. God Bless, god damn America. And Go Pitt.
Obama's toast. The Repubs will have a field day with this "spiritual advisor" come November.
Carlileb, you have been ranting, screaming, whining about Obama since he beat your girlfriend's butt in Iowa. GIVE IT A REST! Everyone understands that according to you, the world will end, the Democratic party won't exist, life will be over UNLESS everyone joins the Hillary bandwagon. I know you believe that Hillary is the answer for to everything but she running a little short on time and folks aren't buying her "experience" sell. Maybe you should stop the advise column and put your energies to getting her nominated that way you can tell everyone that you saved not only the Democratic party but the world.
Could you post the statements that Garrett was asking him about? Did Garrett ask him if he ever heard Wright say something controversial or was he asking him about the statements that were all over the web/TV on Friday?
What statements are you referring to? The word "those" makes it sound like Garrett was referring to specific facts. Do you agree?
So, today when Obama said that he had heard controversial statements, do you think Obama could be referring to other controversial statements made by Wright and not those referred to on Fox?
Please post the Garrett transcript and the quotes you think he was referring to.
"So, today when Obama said that he had heard controversial statements, do you think Obama could be referring to other controversial statements made by Wright and not those referred to on Fox?"
Obama's equivocating. He knew the guy was inflammatory last week, but he tried to play the innocent. That's the point. Solon's specifics are irrelevant.
LOL Carlile does not have the mental acuity to appreciate logical reasoning. I've seen two year olds with more tantrum control.
WZ,
Too bad your OPINION doesn't alter FACTS.
Every thing you post here proves you're a moron, Solonswine. And that's a fact.
Solonswine,
Is this what you are focusing on? I have to say I am very disappointed. Did you hear the speech? Did it not have any impact on you beyond what you are alledging as some gotcha lie on Obama's part?
I expect this from rightwing media goons who are threatened with a candidate who is aiming to unite, for that is an anathema to their brand of talk show divisiveness that lines their pockets - but not fair minded Americans.
Why not? The loony, windbag, code-pink, moonbat liberal douchebags routinely pay no attention to George W. Bush's inspiring speeches and compassionate attitude and focus on what........"He's a LIAR. George Bush and BushCo are a machine cranking out lie after lie after lie", you know the routine by now.
So, since imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery, I will act just like the moonbats. I want to be more like them.
Excuse me if I don't give Barack Hussein Obama's speech the positive credence that it deserves, but don't dare accuse me of acting any different then the typical liberal idiot.
So you're illustrating the notion that when a conservative acts like a typical, snot-nosed s**t-bag liberal weeellllllll..........we can't have that. How dare someone act like US!! We have the copyright on selective outrage!!
Funny how the tables turn so quickly. Tommy, you have let me down.
SS,
Are you chastising Tommy for being open-minded? I thought you all were trying to be the big tent.
Honestly, SS, if you are "better" than we liberals are, evaluate the content of the speech. If not, you have absolutely no room to complain.
For those of us who may have missed the inspiration and compassion could you elaborate?
Wait a minute. Now, I think I understand. You heard GW say how he wished he were a younger man so that he could enjoy the romanticism of fighting in Afghanistan, correct?
And he inspired you to enlist?
You illustrate my point to the tee.
You focus ONLY on the "LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE"
Yet you stand at the ready to judge me for doing the same thing.
Gimme an H, gimme a Y, gimme a P, gimme an O, gimme a C, gimme an R, gimme an I, gimme a T, gimme an E. What does it spell
LIBERAL!!
Gimme an H, gimme a Y, gimme a P, gimme an O, gimme a C, gimme an R, gimme an I, gimme a T, gimme an E. What does it spell
LIBERAL!!"
I see that the whiney, crybaby staged has been reached. And at a remarkably fast pace too.
Cry-babies always project their faults onto others. It's no surprise that you live down to that standard.
Point out where I said anything about anyone being a liar. I only asked you to elaborate on a point that you had made.
You must have a Master's Degree in Wingnuttery.
George W. Bush's inspiring speeches and compassionate attitude
OMG! George Bush is compassionate and made an inspiring speech? Was it.....was it.........was it.........was it........ I know, it was after 9/11 when he encouraged Americans to spend spend spend while he and his Republicans friends in Congress spent, spent and spent. Or maybe it was when he told Americans we were in danger from Saddam and started a war that has killed 4,000 Americans and cost over 500 billion dollars, so far.... yeah that's got to be the one........ Or, maybe it was when he and Cheney outed a CIA agent.... or spied on Americans without a warrant, or..........
Hey Col,
Did you check the other Obama thread where we outed Nonbearing, he has met George Wallace :). Man, what a life that guy leads.
He's our Forrest Gump. He's met everyone.
Just went through the thread. Very entertaining. It was Solonswines show up until the last page or so, then our old/new friend came out of nowhere and left SS in his dust.
I like his style. He starts out slow, then once rolling, he starts dropping names of the rich and famous. Then, after he's beaten down a bit tries to deliver the KO with one of his racist one liners.
I doubt he'll make it to the weekend before he's bounced again.
"So what you're saying is that you have nothing of substance to add to the conversation?"
Odd. I found his comments strikingly accurate. Something you should try to learn.
Solonswines' incorrect about Obama being a "liar" but his general point is accurate.
O was being disingenuous last week by claiming that he he'd never heard these kind of things before in church. Now he admits it.
Face it, Obama supporters. It's curtain time. Either now, or in November.
Barack Hussein Obama (D-IL) is a flat-out, bold-faced LIAR.
This seems like projection on your part.
Shelby Steele writes:
No matter his ultimate political fate, there is already enough pathos in Barack Obama to make him a cautionary tale. His public persona thrives on a manipulation of whites, and his private sense of racial identity demands both self-betrayal and duplicity. His is the story of a man who flew so high, yet neglected to become himself.
Shelby Steele writes:
Ohhhhhh
ATTENTION..........ATTENTION..........ATTENTION
Bi Racial Black man writes about another Bi Racial Black man. You can believe what THIS Bi racial Black man says.
Just as I predicted on another thread earlier today, the vultures from the slash and burn menu of politics will serve up their way to exploit this from Obama as a club to beat him over the head with. Shameful.
Obama was honest and inspirational, and courageous in his speech. He spoke of issues that Gingrich didn't have the balls to speak of when he was in a leadership position.
"He spoke of issues that Gingrich didn't have the balls to speak of when he was in a leadership position. "
Since you brought up his name, I just couldn't resist! Of all the things Gingrich has ever said I think the most down-right frightening of them was "More people should be like me"
Heaven forbid!
Swine doesn't know yet ... the old repition game won't work
NOT THIS TIME
I can't believe Obama is a liar. I had such hope for him. This breaks my heart.
Zamfir, unless you forgot to add the "sarcasm" tag your lying, you have been on your knees praying for anything to bring Obama down. This will give you and others a verbal excuse to use not to vote for him. You couldn't say you weren't comfortable voting for a black man, hey your kind of liberal, how would that look. You couldn't say he didn't have experience cause your other choice, Hillary doesn't have any either unless it's sleeping next to the President counts and let's imagine how many times she actually sleep next to him. So what excuse could you use? Hey, his pastor sounds good and other folks are using it. It doesn't matter that it's stupid on it's face to associate someone else's words to Obama just becuase they are friends. I'm so sure your friends would like having something you said attributed to them just for being your friend. It doesn't matter that to sane reasonable folks will use common sense to realize that Obama didn't say the words, Rev. Wright did. Rev. Wright was a young black man during the 50,s and 60,s and his view of America may be different. Nah why use something like common sense and try to be a fair minded person when I can be a nutjob like Slonswine. You are now a member of the 29% club.
"Seem"?
Don't you like how zamfir is painting himself out to be a "liberal" now? I have a good memory, and I remember when the whole Imus thing blew up, he was the MAIN ONE rationalizing Imus and McJerk's filth. He even told me that he's a paloconservative. Now, he has changed his colors and speaks as if he's a life long liberal. What a joke.
Gimme a break! Partisanship is always present. That's the only way things can work-- interests conflict, give and take occurs, thing get done, slowly.
That's history!
Ah, the naivete!
Ahh the liberal mask comes off exposing the sheet. David Duke would be proud.
Get your panties out of a wad; you were not going to vote for him or any black person anyway!
Gee, was that prejudicial toward me, or was that more stereotyping than anything?
Whatever it was, Al Sharpton's wallet thanks you for keeping the race issue at the fore-front of American society.
What race issue, Swine? Except for a few troublemakers, American Negroes are very happy people, singing their Negro spirituals and doing their quaint dances. <HEAVY sarcasm>
all God's childrun got rhythm
Hissy Buff is backkkkkkkkkkk
I used to be able to figure out who these clowns were in their past lives here but now they are seem the same.
They also come and go so quickly that it's hard to keep them straight. We should start giving out programs of the wingnuts so we can keep them straight.
"I truly do apologize to all of you who have just realized that your black Jesus has been nailed to the cross today. Believe me, I know how you must feel. But it's OK, there will soon be another......."
Does your therapist know you are giving away for free personal information you should be paying him to listen to? Personally, I think you should pay US that fee for listening to this increasingly amusing garbage. How far will the filters on this site let you go? Anyone want to take some bets on that?
"black Jesus has been nailed to the cross today"
So, Swine, do you mean that Limbaugh and Hannity were particularly effective today? I must disagree. They sounded as though they were in a panic over Barack Obama's momentous speech. Bring out the attack dogs...we've got a troublemaking Negro on the loose...eh, Swine? ;>)
"...your black Jesus has been nailed to the cross today. Believe me, I know how you must feel. But it's OK, there will soon be another."--SolonSwine...
Interesting prediction to make SS. I just heard Hannity touting JC Watts for VP. Or maybe you're thinking of a Democrat for later like DLC chairman and Fox contributor Harold Ford?
And by the way SS, you're Black right? From a post a couple weeks ago.
Just to re-state the obvious,
"Solonswine has taken on the attitude of the typical liberal throughout this thread to illustrate the hypocrisy of the left. Note the cry-baby attitude, the focusing on just one or two lines of text where context could be argued, the name-calling, and the incessant repetition of the deluded 'point'. I hope that some of the regulars on this site take this opportunity to see themselves through the eyes of someone else and perhaps learn that, deep down inside, we're not so different after all."
This concludes my little exercise. Class dismissed.
ROFLMAO The ignorant are so arrogant its actually funny now that they have no power.
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This concludes my little exercise. Class dismissed.
Why do you hate America?
John McCain is committed to continue the wars and pile up the debt on the American taxpayer. A continuation of the same policies of GWB for another four years guarantees disaster for the average American -- continued loss of good jobs, more debt, a weaker dollar, larger trade deficits. What's in it for you, Solon? Tell me you have a dog in this scrap and that you're going to be better off four years from now when the average American won't be? Tell me you have thought this thing through and McCain is a good deal for you.
Let's see now,….. Bush's grandfather was supposed to be involved in a consiracy against FDR and the Domocratic party;…… his father is rumored to have made his bones in the JFK assasination:…… and he is a Southerner.
Maybe this is a second civil war, only without all the noise.
The Secret Service is already on at least one, ah individual. Does the number 55 mean anything to you NB?
Has anyone of this hate crippled outlook considered if trying to create a martyr is a really bright idea. Yes consideration and this type of person is a silly thought. Here's another. To bad guns don't refuse to fire, if they can't detect any intelligence in whoever is handling them.
Gingrich and Hume can both go to hell. It was Barack Obama's speech and not theirs. Many of us have relatives who embarrass us from time to time. I never heard a racist statement from any of my grandparents. However, that is probably because they lived in a small, out of the way town which had probably not seen six Black people even pass through the town in the previous century. Now, the Gypsies who passed through town every summer were another matter.
Many of us support Obama because he inspires us and he addresses the major issues confronting the nation and the world. The speech today did that. It moved beyond the specific criticisms and said clearly that there is still much to do.
I cannot imagine Gingrich or Hume ever voting for Obama. They have their candidate. Tell me what John McCain stands for and what he will do. I will get my information and opinions about Barack Obama elsewhere.
impolite. How "divisive". His brilliant speech was a wake up call that we ignore at our peril. The shameful problem of race CAN be fixed. We first have to say what that problem IS and find ways to mend it. After all, we have had plenty of time to work on it. There is no excuse anymore.
Fox's "fair and balanced" news team has gone from dismal to totally laughable. Split screens with the likes of Hume and Gingrich -or- Hannity and Rove spewing their drivel to America under the guise of journalistic "news"should be enough to make anyone curse America. For the sake of my own sanity I've had to take Fox News channel off the channel list via my remote. Like a bad car accident, my channel surfing during commercials had me pausing at Fox News to gawk in awe at the unbelievable damage and bludgeoning words, wondering if it is someone I know (or support) who is the victim. The "truthiness" of real news is depressing and scary enough without having to watch a bunch of hateful fear mongers spout their doom and gloom.
I suppose the easiest way to accept Fox News would be to just stop taking it seriously. I don't, but my concern is for those who do. Fox News audience can be broken down into the same demographics as an audience at a good horror movie. There are those who react to the horror as intended - and are truly scared - and there are those (like myself) who watch and laugh at the absurdity of it all.