O'Reilly apparently still not relaxing "on all this gay stuff"
In a promotional ad for Bill O'Reilly's Fox News show, an announcer said, "Is the media celebrating gay culture? Inside Rosie's family cruise." O'Reilly has stated that "I think everybody's got to relax on all this gay stuff."
During the 12 a.m. ET hour, Fox News aired a promotional ad for the April 4 edition of The O'Reilly Factor that stated: "Is the media celebrating gay culture? Inside Rosie's family cruise." R Family Vacations, created by former talk show host Rosie O'Donnell and her partner Kelli Carpenter O'Donnell, bills itself as "truly the most inclusive GLBT [gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender] vacation offered. All of our vacations are designed for gays, lesbians, their families, and their friends. Everyone is welcome -- singles, couples without children, couples with children, groups of friends, grandparents, and almost any other family configuration you can think of. We have hosted three-month-old babies and 80-something grandparents."
As Media Matters for America has noted, on August 15, 2007, Factor host Bill O'Reilly stated: "I think everybody's got to relax on all this gay stuff." Media Matters has documented examples of O'Reilly failing to follow his own advice and "relax on all this gay stuff" since making that pronouncement.
From the 12 a.m. ET hour of the April 4 edition of Fox News:
ANNOUNCER: Bill blasts Hollywood for its anti-American ways, and Wayne Rogers takes offense. They mash it out in a wild debate. Plus: Is the media celebrating gay culture? Inside Rosie's family cruise.
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Rick,
Not to pick on you. I don't get why repeated gay bashing jokes are accepted around here. It seems as long as the object of derision is a conservative then accusing them of being closeted gays or making other gay insensitive remarks is almost de rigueur. I've seen it time and time again with reference to Bill O'Reilley and Ann Coulter.
Why the double standard? Am I the only one who notices this underlying hostility toward gays where conservatives are somehow put down by this reference?
You beat me to the punch and your post was half the size of mine.
I've got to work on the brevity thing.
O'Reilly and Coulter have been raving hysterically about homosexuals for years. It's only natural for others to guess why they have so much hatred.
"If one is opposed the gay lifestyle, then baseless accuse them of being gay themselves as a putdown."
WHICH "gay lifestyle" would that be? I've known quite a few gay men and women over the years and ALL of them lived "normal" suburban lives...except they were involved in dog showing, as am I. So WHICH gay lifestyle is being opposed?
"Oh wait. I still don't get it."
No big surprise
So WHICH gay lifestyle is being opposed?
I think it's that one that's constantly being rammed down the throats of regular people and Americans.That's what I've heard, at least.
"I think it's that one that's constantly being rammed down the throats of regular people and Americans.That's what I've heard, at least."
Darn, I must have missed the day THAT was being done!
"Maybe them complainers secretly like the idea of something being rammed down their throat forcibly? "
My thoughts exactly...except I don't think they "like" it so much as they're AFRAID they'd like it. It's fear that's behind most prejudices anyway.
"I don’t know what to think until tommy comes along to interpret these words for us."
I'm tommy's fill-in for the day.
THere seems to be sufficient confusion over what is the "gay lifestyle"among you fellows. So i shall take the liberty to define it for you from a conservative prospective.
The gay lifestyle is different from the straight lifestyle most consisntently in the part of one's life involving sexuality.
It can be said that these lifestyles are not overtly different, yet it is in the substratum were the difference is most evident.
Solon, it was a bit confusing. I think Fin was trying so hard to squeeze in the 5 or 6 multi-syllable words he knows that he over-thunk it.
It may have been accidental,or maybe racial issues are the only area where he gets dizzy, but I think he made this very rational, if obvious, point; Gay people are just like straight people, except for what they do in the bedroom, which is nobody else's business.
I never would have guessed Fin for such an outspoken gay rights advocate, but I'll give credit where it's due. Good for you, Finarfin.
The big hole in your argument is the baseles part. I would argue that the repeated instances of very outspoken anti-gay public figures having secret gay affairs as well as the classic psychological theory of projection make it appropraite to question the motives of someone obsessed with the personal sex lives of others.
Exactly - this from a 1996 study by the Journal of Abnormal Psychology.
I can't explain that study, but I can tell you its cultural also. There are very homophobic cultures and all the men from these countries don't have latent homosexual desires. They are actually just intolerant to homosexual behavior.
One thingI would say about cultural homophobia is that it seems to be in conjunction with a very adolescent sense of manhood, or machismo, within that culture.
Similarly, I would say that overt homophobia on an individual level is not necessarily associated with suppressed homosexual desire. In many cases it seems to be associated with insecurity and a need to prove one's manhood for one reason or another. The resulting actions are often adolescent in nature and the person often seems to be emotionally immature.
AA,
I think there is a very fine line (that does get crossed) in situations like this. I think the motivation is to imply that the homophobe is gay in order to make them uncomfortable and angry - not necessarily to show hostility toward gay people. However, I think the line does get crossed and gay people end up being insulted. Personally, I don't think it's a good tactic.
PS: I don't think the initial comment expressed hostility towards gay people. Simply encouraging someone to come out of the closet is not an insult.
I might call bush "Insightful," not because insight is a bad thing, but because HE would take umbrage to it.
Maybe I should change my name too, then Tommy will start talking to me again. . .Oh wait! Let me rethink that.
(Geez, everthing seems backwards lately)
My full name is J. Farnsworth Worrierking.
Although we were driven out of Point Pleasant after they passed a law banning circus freaks from living within the towns borders.
Sorry, but Royal Law prohibits me from changing my name. Royal lineage will be destroyed and Copious Blog Guy will move up one spot in the scheme of things....can't let that happen.
P.S. Billy O'....could you explain to me the exact nature of your LIFESTYLE..don't forget the phone calls to that producer.
Hey Bill. Psst... If you weren't talking about this on your show, I have a feeling NOBODY would really know about it, except the people who WANT to know about it. If you think that the media is celebrating that gay "culture" (whatever that means), then you're the problem, as this is the first place I've heard of this on here, and now on your show.
Oh, and another thing. For the most part, guess what? Gay culture is the same as hetero culture.
He could call it "The Culture Warrior's Cruise for Homophobes " with silverware and all the motherf_cking iced tea you can drink.
OH GOD! You didn't really write that, did you?
Oh, I guess you did, since I read it. DOH!
Sorry, rick, I was in character as BilldO, I should have made that clear.
I think a more than likely possibility here would be cheap bus tours down to Branson, complete with tickets to some of the more obnoxiously pathetic displays of "nutritious patriotism" in music-show form as panders all the more to Mr. No-Spin Zone's target audience.
Butt pirate! Funny.
"Bend over, I'm driving!"
Just asking: What part of the mission statement for MMFA does this topic relate to?
Nothing that I can see. Bill O.'s show had nothing to do with politics, "progressive" candidates or any of the other items usually mentioned.
"Is the media celebrating gay culture?"
Billdo says yes, that's conservative misinformation. That and idea that there is a "gay culture." Just like the rest of America the gay community doesn't have a single culture that defines the entire group.
Not just celebrating, but, as I heard BilldO say tonight "glorifying" the gay lifestyle.
"Glorifying" meaning not making something a felony.