On Hardball, Matthews and Shuster critiqued Obama's "weird" beverage selection at Indiana diner
On Hardball, while remarking on Sen. Barack Obama's reported request for orange juice after being offered coffee at an Indiana diner, David Shuster asserted: "[I]t's just one of those sort of weird things. You know, when the owner of the diner says, 'Here, have some coffee,' you say, 'Yes, thank you,' and, 'Oh, can I also please have some orange juice, in addition to this?' You don't just say, 'No, I'll take orange juice,' and then turn away and start shaking hands." Host Chris Matthews agreed, "You don't ask for a substitute on the menu."
On the April 10 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, after reporting that Sen. Barack Obama "campaigned today in northern Indiana, shaking hands and chatting with people at a diner near South Bend," MSNBC correspondent David Shuster stated to host Chris Matthews: "Well, here's the other thing that we saw on the tape, Chris, is that, when Obama went in, he was offered coffee, and he said, 'I'll have orange juice.' " Matthews replied, "No," to which Shuster responded: "He did." Shuster continued: "And it's just one of those sort of weird things. You know, when the owner of the diner says, 'Here, have some coffee,' you say, 'Yes, thank you,' and, 'Oh, can I also please have some orange juice, in addition to this?' You don't just say, 'No, I'll take orange juice,' and then turn away and start shaking hands." Matthews added, "You don't ask for a substitute on the menu," and then said: "David, what a regular guy. You could do this. ... I mean, go to the diners." Matthews then began an interview with Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA), an Obama supporter, by asking Casey: "Isn't that interesting, Senator Casey, that Barack Obama, your candidate, can walk before 15,000 people with complete calm and assurance, but he seems a little out of place in A) a bowling alley and B) a diner? What is the problem with your guy?"
Earlier in his discussion with Shuster, Matthews asserted that Obama is "not that good at that -- handshaking in a diner," adding: "Barack doesn't seem to know how to do that right." Shuster agreed, stating: "He doesn't do that well." Matthews then asserted: "What's so hard about doing a diner? I don't get it. Why doesn't he go in there and say, 'Did you see the papers today? What do you think about that team? How did we do last night?' Just some regular connection?" Matthews also asked Shuster, referring to Obama's support among college students versus support for Sen. Hillary Clinton: "So you think the college crowd can beat the regular people there, if it comes down to that, in terms of Hillary's support?"
As Media Matters for America noted, Matthews has previously suggested that the Democratic Party does not consist of "regular people," and that African-Americans and college graduates are not "regular people." During the April 8 edition of Hardball, after playing a clip of Clinton bowling on the April 7 edition of the syndicated The Ellen DeGeneres Show, Matthews asserted, "Well, it looks like bowlers won't have a champion in the race at all. I'm actually surprised by the fact that neither Barack or Hillary have bowled much in their lives. Maybe that tells you something about the Democratic Party." During the April 1 edition of Hardball, Matthews referred to Obama's bowling performance at a March 29 campaign stop at Pleasant Valley Lanes in Altoona, Pennsylvania, and asked, "[C]an Obama woo more regular voters -- you know, the ones who actually do know how to bowl?" During a segment on that same program, Matthews asked Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), "Let me ask you about how he -- how's he connect with regular people? Does he? Or does he only appeal to people who come from the African-American community and from the people who have college or advanced degrees?" In addition, during MSNBC's February 5 coverage of that day's primary contests, Matthews suggested to Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean that he should be concerned about the party's lack of broad appeal, noting polls showing a large number of "college graduates" and voters of a "high economic and social echelon" voting in the Democratic primaries. Matthews added, "I just wonder where regular people are in this."
From the April 10 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews:
SHUSTER: As for Barack Obama, he campaigned today in northern Indiana, shaking hands and chatting with people at a diner near South Bend. Then Obama headed to Gary, Indiana, where he spoke in front of a raucous crowd at Roosevelt High School. Obama's theme was the economy. He sharply criticized John McCain's support for extending the Bush tax cuts. And Obama said, McCain's housing plan, announced today, does not go far enough.
[...]
SHUSTER: Well, look, Chris, seriously, though, keep an eye on these college towns in Indiana, because I was just talking a few minutes ago, there are -- in a close primary, especially in a conservative state --
MATTHEWS: Right.
SHUSTER: -- you have a lot of people in -- who may be Democrats in a place like Indiana. Watch turnout in places like Bloomington, Terre Haute --
MATTHEWS: So you think the college crowd can beat the regular people there, if it comes down to that, in terms of Hillary's support?
SHUSTER: In a state like Indiana, if Obama can turn out the large crowds in the college towns --
MATTHEWS: Did you see him there?
SHUSTER: -- but that's --
MATTHEWS: He's not that good at that -- handshaking in a diner.
SHUSTER: No --
MATTHEWS: Barack doesn't seem to know how to do that right.
SHUSTER: -- he doesn't do that well. But then you see him in front of 15,000 people in some of these college towns, and that's why, Chris, we've seen Chelsea Clinton and Bill Clinton in Bloomington and South Bend and Terre Haute. I mean --
MATTHEWS: What's so hard about doing a diner? I don't get it. Why doesn't he go in there and say, "Did you see the papers today? What do you think about that team? How did we do last night?" Just some regular connection?
SHUSTER: Well, here's the other thing that we saw on the tape, Chris, is that, when Obama went in, he was offered coffee, and he said, "I'll have orange juice."
MATTHEWS: No.
SHUSTER: He did.
And it's just one of those sort of weird things. You know, when the owner of the diner says, "Here, have some coffee," you say, "Yes, thank you," and, "Oh, can I also please have some orange juice, in addition to this?" You don't just say, "No, I'll take orange juice," and then turn away and start shaking hands. That's what happens [unintelligible] --
MATTHEWS: You don't ask for a substitute on the menu.
SHUSTER: Exactly.
MATTHEWS: David, what a regular guy. You could do this. Anyway, thank you, David Shuster. I mean, go to the diners.
Here you have a guy that can do it. Senator Bob Casey of Pennsylvania is out on campaign. He campaigned all throughout the state lately for Barack Obama.
Isn't that interesting, Senator Casey, that Barack Obama, your candidate, can walk before 15,000 people with complete calm and assurance, but he seems a little out of place in A) a bowling alley and B) a diner? What is the problem with your guy?
CASEY: Chris, he was fine in the bowling alley. His score was a little low. But I was able -- it was the only thing I was able to beat him at during our bus tour. But he had a great response.











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Host Chris Matthews agreed, "You don't ask for a substitute on the menu."
Is Tweety THIS desperate for "news"????
At least he didn't ask for a mother f'n orange juice Oh wait, that's a different idiotic talking head.
LOL!
I can't top that.
I can't believe that a diner would have orange juice! I mean, what was Obama thinking?
What's next, some kind of wierd cheese on his Philly steak sand? Boy these Dems!
Host Chris Matthews agreed, "You don't ask for a substitute on the menu."
Uh, Chris, isn't that the whole point of a menu? It gives you a choice of things to order.
Here's another thought. Some people cannot drink coffee, because of the caffein. For example, I know that if my wife has even one cup of regular coffee in teh morning, she has trouble sleeping that night.
Perhaps Barack Obama is one of theose people who either cannot drink coffee, or - heven forbid - doesn't LIKE coffee. Did Tweety think of THAT?????
Maybe the guy doesn't like coffee. Maybe since he's trying to be an ex-smoker he associates coffee with a cigarette and would rather avoid them both until he's got the habit kicked.
And why wasn't this idiot putting his journalistic foot into GW's ass in 2004 instead of admiring his package?
Who the hell bowls these days, anyway? What is this, Ralph Kramden time or something?
If you took the top off of Matthews head, worms would crawl out. In actuality, this wierd, hackneyed imagery of his is just bigotry, plain and simple.
How is this "news?" It doesn't inform anyone about anything.
In addition to that, there's precious little of an actual event for Matthews and company to "report" on or analyze. Since there's no "there there," the entire discussion revolves around suppositions and inferences. In short, there's no substance.
Those of us who recall the "news" analysis about John Kerry ordering cheesesteak in 2004 will easily recognize what's going on here -- the marginalizing of Obama by a media determined to sabotage all Democratic candidates.
What a colossal waste of time, money, effort and broadcast time.
"Those of us who recall the "news" analysis about John Kerry ordering cheesesteak in 2004 will easily recognize what's going on here -- the marginalizing of Obama by a media determined to sabotage all Democratic candidates. "
That's exactly it.
"Hey Matthews and the rest of your MSNBC hating crew, go to hell!!!"--Sueeld [Bold-mine]
Some might interpret that as a "Pot/Kettle" type of statement. :-)
MSNBC is by far the worst network on cable news.
Why did the network of Imus not replace him with a African American? Even Imus now has 2 African Americans on his radio program, Instead we get smart a** remarks from Scarborugh, matthews, Olberhater and Abrams. Disgusting network.
Wow the things one learns about campaigning from Chrissie. Who knew you couldn't ask for an O.J instead of coffee?
What other important diner rules can Matthews clear up for us? How about when to ask for margerine or butter? Jelly or jam? Toast or bagels? Eggs, scrambled or over easy?
"What's so great about me is that I get ordinary waitresses like you... Did you see the papers today? What do you think about that team, you know, the one you like? How did we do last night?"
I wonder if he prefers white, whole wheat, or rye toast ? I'm certain Tweety could spin that into a negative regardless of which he prefers.
Your vitriol against wheat gluten is obvious. I don't think you realize how partisan you are.You make my point by resorting to your hatred-filled rants. Why don't we discuss the issues?
(Are my impressions getting better? Guess who that was.)
My contempt for wheat gluten aside, it's either one of two posters. Or maybe a composite of the two. I will give you artistic license O' Clever One.
It can't be me since I entered Hateful Ageists Anonymous.
I'm on the step where I have to make amends. I have to apologize to that rancid, old...
I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time. I might have to go back to step one.
Chris Matthews also asks in the video, "you think the college crowd can beat the regular people there?"
If you're in college, you're not a "regular" person, to Chris Matthews.
Oh your pore liver.
I usually get up, get trapped in the clamshell, then someone pours flaming squid ink on my head, while an elephant in my pajamas on the tv drinks vodka.
He frowns real good.
But not as good as Ming!!
Note to campaigning Dems...
Since there is no correct way to tip or order a beverage at diners, they should be avoided altogether.
Hell, now I must return to every diner I've been to and apologize for not accepting coffee. Adios, see you in about a year.
I wonder how Tweety got through life just doing what was acceptable to everyone. Diabolical, that man.
"You don't ask for a substitute on the menu."
Good grief!
oh noes! a candidate asked for juice instead of coffee...the apocalypse must be upon us.
Dear god, except for those all-too rare and all-too-brief episodes wherein he is not fluffing republican daddy figures, Tweety Matthews is beyond useless
What IS the problem with you. I saw the edition of Hardball, and watched the clip here. Matthews is practically in LOVE with Obama. That was his take, and I can see where he's coming from. But it wasn't meant as a putdown. Obama is better with a crowd, or one on one, than with a smaller group.
So WHAT!?!? He's going to make the best President any of us have ever SEEN!!!!
John Cheney 88
jeez I believe a person still has the right to decline a coffee. I don't drink coffee myself, someday maybe I'll get fined or have to spend jail time for saying no thank to a coffee offer. I hope a certain political party doesn't, expend too much effort trying to limit a persons rights, like the right to say no, even to coffee. One of the republican platform: lazzi faire. Just imagine if we spent this time and energy, studying important matters like if those aluminum tube could really work in a centrefuge. I must be dreaming, maybe I need to start drinking coffee, STRONG
This is truly unbelievable.
The President of the United States admits in public that he actively supported and endorsed actions that rise to the level of International War crimes
(http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/11/bush-approved-of-top-advisers-talks-on-interrogation/
and the Media (specifically Matthews) focus on something like this.
I can think of nothing that more clearly symbolizes the professional and moral bankruptcy of our News Media than this.
How do these people manage to sleep at night???
Are they so completely lacking in any piece of moral sensibility?