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McCain: "I'm very pleased with the relationship that I've had with the media over many years"

April 16, 2008 3:37 pm ET

On the April 16 edition of MSNBC Live, Andrea Mitchell asked Sen. John McCain, "What question would you like to see asked" of Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama at that night's Democratic presidential debate. McCain replied: "I'll leave that up to the media. And, frankly, I'm very pleased with the relationship that I've had with the media over many years."

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On the April 16 edition of MSNBC Live, NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent and host Andrea Mitchell told Sen. John McCain, "[T]onight, there's a big Democratic debate," and asked McCain, "What question would you like to see asked" of Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. In response, McCain stated: "I'll leave that up to the media. And, frankly, I'm very pleased with the relationship that I've had with the media over many years. And of course we've had differences, and I haven't liked every story. But I think the media plays a key and vital role. And I'll let them ask those questions. We'll have plenty of time when one of them becomes the candidate of the Democrat Party -- Democratic Party."

In an April 15 "Washington Sketch" column, Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank reported that at the Associated Press Annual Meeting and Luncheon, "McCain got a standing ovation -- an honor Obama did not receive when his turn came two hours later." From Milbank's column:

McCain's moderators, the AP's Ron Fournier and Liz Sidoti, greeted McCain with a box of Dunkin' Donuts. "We spend quite a bit of time with you on the back of the Straight Talk Express asking you questions, and what we've decided to do today was invite everyone else along on the ride," Sidoti explained. "We even brought you your favorite treat."

McCain opened the offering. "Oh, yes, with sprinkles!" he said.

Sidoti passed him a cup. "A little coffee with a little cream and a little sugar," she said.

[...]

McCain was indeed in high spirits as he entered the ballroom and invited the editors' "questions, comments or insults." Reading from a teleprompter, McCain said he was among friends. "I made a decision to be as accessible to the press as the press would prefer me to be, and perhaps even more than they would prefer."

As Media Matters for America noted, on the September 10, 2006, edition of The Chris Matthews Show, host Chris Matthews asserted: "The press loves McCain. We're his base."

From the 1 p.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on April 16:

MITCHELL: Senator, tonight, there's a big Democratic debate and I know, you know, you've had some differences with the way the press has covered things over the years. Put yourself in the role of questioner. What question would you like to see asked of Hillary Clinton? What question would you ask Barack Obama?

McCAIN: I'll leave that up to the media. And, frankly, I'm very pleased with the relationship that I've had with the media over many years. And of course we've had differences, and I haven't liked every story. But I think the media plays a key and vital role. And I'll let them ask those questions. We'll have plenty of time when one of them becomes the candidate of the Democrat Party -- Democratic Party.

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    • Author by werner (April 16, 2008 3:45 pm ET)
         

      Will SNL do a skit about this?

       

      I doubt it. 

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    • Author by tommy (April 16, 2008 3:50 pm ET)
         

      WITH?  I thought it wasn't in the mission statement to correct, or even critique what politicians say about anything, but rather the way the media covers it?

      That inconvenient "about us" page, whoever thought that up? 

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      • Author by pete592 (April 16, 2008 3:52 pm ET)
           
        It's another rare WITH for me as well.  McCain's not a member of the media.
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        • Author by dbeden4153 (April 16, 2008 3:57 pm ET)
             

          No but he was on MSNBC, which I'm guessing qualifies

           

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          • Author by deeznuts (April 16, 2008 4:17 pm ET)
               
            And he's talking about the media, which, as we all know, LOVES McCain and would give him a pass if he brutally murdered his own daughter on live TV. At the very least, they'd find some way to blame Obama...
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      • Author by wesley (April 16, 2008 4:41 pm ET)
           

        WITH? Easy to figure out. With 12 articles on McCain in the last two days you can see that Brock is taking is new duty seriously...chairman of Prgressive Media USA.

        From the Politico:

         -- Wealthy Democrats are preparing a four-month, $40 million media campaign centered on attacks on Sen. John McCain. And it will be led by David Brock... The planned campaign is the product of a shakeup in the top ranks of the struggling independent Democratic groups...to be the main vehicle for independent Democratic attacks on McCain, now called Progressive Media USA...

        after a dinner Tuesday night at the Manhattan apartment of liberal megadonor George Soros, at which Brock and consultant Paul Begala laid out the group's plans...

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        • Author by tommy (April 16, 2008 4:49 pm ET)
             

          Yes, and how the moniker "Mcsame" focused group so darn well.  

          Lest we forget those nasty swiftboaters back in 2004.   Boys, meet your match.

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          • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 5:12 pm ET)
               
            Is there actual evidence that McCain got a Purple Heart after suffering from a self inflicted wound?  Won't matter, if enough people say it loudly and often.
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            • Author by tommy (April 16, 2008 5:22 pm ET)
                 
              Score one for your side.  Ok, other side, let's see what you've got.
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 5:13 pm ET)
               

            Hi Tommy,

            I hope, unlike the Swift Boats, their campaign sticks to the truth.  If they don't, I'm outta here :).

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            • Author by tommy (April 16, 2008 5:21 pm ET)
                 

              Fried, 

              I am skeptical of any political advocacy group that sets out as a negative in the first place.......a group that focus tests names like "Mcsame" for affect.

              It isn't about the truth or setting the record straight with integrity and honesty, it's about smears, innuendoes, and slime and slur and twist the truth to avoid the candidate you don't like from getting elected, at pretty much any cost.

              It doesn't sit too well with my stomach, from anyone, toward anyone.

              Tell me about your candidate and how good he or she is......and leave the crap out.  If you can't, I am not impressed. 

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              • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 5:26 pm ET)
                   
                Even after the lies, the smears, the Swiftboater for some reason, you still vote for the Republican.  Sorry Tommy, but it kinda makes that statement a bit hollow.
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              • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 5:29 pm ET)
                   

                Tommy,

                I completely agree, I wish we could make that happen!

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              • Author by NiceguyEddie (April 17, 2008 11:58 am ET)
                   

                It isn't about the truth or setting the record straight with integrity and honesty, it's about smears, innuendoes, and slime and slur and twist the truth to avoid the candidate you don't like from getting elected, at pretty much any cost.

                So... it's about politics then? ;) 

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        • Author by jeter2 (April 16, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
             

          WITH? Easy to figure out. With 12 articles on McCain in the last two days you can see that Brock is taking is new duty seriously...chairman of Prgressive Media USA.

          Geez, I hope Brock doesn't use this site to do his dirty work, McCain is boring...endless McCain threads are boring. What we don't need is 500 threads between now & the election about how someone else in the media called McCain a Maverick. Yawn.

          Come on Brock, there must be other Cons out there up to no good ;-)

           

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        • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 5:21 pm ET)
             

          Hi Wesley,

          I remember we talked about the GI Bill on a previous thread, I thought I would share my latest find on the issue and offer it up to you for your perusal:

          http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=4652517&page=1

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 16, 2008 11:37 pm ET)
             
          Nice gumshoe work, Wesley. Aside from the matter of this being a site about media pushing the conservative agenda, and this item being about the GOP nominee gushing about his snuggly relationship with the media, I think you've really hit the nail on the head.
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    • Author by shoes89 (April 16, 2008 3:51 pm ET)
         

      Two responses:

      1. McCain: "I'm very pleased with the relationship that I've had with the media over many years."

      That will change in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

      2. Obama must be very pleased, also. Has any candidate ever gotten a bigger pass, more adulation, more cheerleading than Barack Obama has? No way.

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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 4:06 pm ET)
           
        To answer your second question, yes: John McCain :).  Think of your outrage, Shoes, if Obama had a BBQ for the press!  Think of your outrage of the media portrayed Obama as someone who often went against the Democratic Party when he had little history of that.
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      • Author by deeznuts (April 16, 2008 4:19 pm ET)
           

        Has any candidate ever gotten a bigger pass, more adulation, more cheerleading than Barack Obama has?

        You must be joking. Please, do inform us all which channels and shows you've been watching. Is it cold on your planet? What's the gravity like?

        (To answer your question: Yes. And that candidate's name is John McCain. Perhaps Obama should invite the press corps to a barbecue at his house...)

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        • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 4:27 pm ET)
             
          The press loves McCain almost as much as Ron Raygun
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          • Author by tommy (April 16, 2008 5:46 pm ET)
               

            The only time, and the only way, the press really loves John McCain is when he has stood up to and bucked his own party.  The press loved the ole' maverick then, whatta guy, you go Johnny!

            Wait until the fall when he embraces his party, he'll be mainstream media toast. 

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            • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 5:54 pm ET)
                 
              We can only hope.  Wait, you're teasing me aren't you?
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              • Author by tommy (April 16, 2008 5:57 pm ET)
                   
                Why do you think he got the "maverick" label in the first place?  Not from walking lockstep with his own party.  He was affectionately coined as such because the liberal media ate up his little tantrums and party "nose-thumbing" like chocolate cake.
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                • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 7:19 pm ET)
                     
                  Until about 2000, I would agree with you Tommy.  Since then, I think he's changed dramatically.
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                  • Author by wesley (April 16, 2008 10:55 pm ET)
                       

                    berg,

                    The American Conservative Union would disagree. Their ratings have shown that McCain has become steadily less conservative since 1990...I'll repost his conservative rating from the ACU...

                    1990 - 94 = 87   

                    1995 - 99 = 82

                    2000 - 04 = 75

                    2005 - 06 = 73

                    His 2006 rating was 65...which ranked 46 republican senators more conservative than McCain. We can agree on his change...and it has been less and less supportive of conservative values. 

                     

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                    • Author by solon (April 17, 2008 12:01 am ET)
                         

                      The ACU rating for McCain in 06 was 88 his lifetime rating is 83 which puts him close to Bill Frist

                      http://www.conservative.org/archive2/2008potus.asp

                      Perhaps or perhaps the GOP has been leaving the traditional conservative values as they embrace the radical statism of the Bush type Republicans and McCain hasnt. The man is my Senator and he is a conservative

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                      • Author by solon (April 17, 2008 12:02 am ET)
                           
                        That should have read 80 ;not 88
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                        • Author by wesley (April 17, 2008 9:31 am ET)
                             

                          You're still wrong...read your own link to the ACU...McCain's ratings:

                          2005 - 80

                          2006 - 65

                           

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                          • Author by solon (April 17, 2008 10:36 am ET)
                               
                            No I am NOT wrong. Do you know how to READ? 2005 rating 80 lifetime rating 83. That is what I posted that is what the site says. Try to keep up.
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                            • Author by solon (April 17, 2008 10:39 am ET)
                                 
                              OOPS typo. I DID write 06 I mean to type 05 so I might have been wrong. I didnt see nor look for the 06 rating. It still makes the point. In 05 his lifetime rating was still near Bill Frist.
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                    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 17, 2008 12:14 am ET)
                         

                      Hi Wesley,

                      Interesting ratings.  Did you see my link about McCain not supporting the new GI Bill?

                      Anyway, on the main policy questions for me, McCain has become more supportive of Bush/conservatives:

                      1) The Iraq War, maybe the war isn't conservative, but he has been in lockstep with the Republicans here.

                      2) Taxes-his flip on this as well as his rationales for his flips have certainly toed the conservative line.

                      3) Gay Marriage/Religious Right/Abortion-complete flip-flop to the extreme right. Spoke at Liberty and Bob Jones recently.

                      4) Immigration-the way he voted is not, supposedly, the way he feels.

                      5) Campaign Finance reform-sponsored a measure that he is trying to get out from under.

                      6) Interrogation techniques-spoken out against waterboarding, voted for a measure allowing what Bush wanted.

                      7) He seems to be in favor of privatizing social security now as well.

                      8) Ethics reform-he supported accountability in fund raising then changed his mind on it. (Meet the Press clip): http://mccain.bravenewfilms.org/blog/576-john-mccain-flip-flops-on-ethics-reform

                      9) I do agree with him on climate change, but that's about it.  The above are in no particular order of my priorities, but show where I really disagree with McCain

                      These are the issues that McCain has changed to the right that are important to me.  The ACU rating doesn't mean much

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                    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 17, 2008 11:39 am ET)
                         

                      Wesley,

                      Do those ratings correct for the changes in position that McCain has demonstrated over the past year and a half?  His rhetoric and his voting record have been two different things lately (i.e. immigration, taxes, etc.).

                       

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                • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 17, 2008 1:55 am ET)
                     
                  What's that Tommy? The liberal media is responsible for the "maverick" label? o...................................k, thanks.
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                  • Author by tommy (April 17, 2008 11:11 am ET)
                       
                    Congratulations Colonel!!  You got one, hang around some of us more and you might get a smack on the ole' kisser, you cute little thing you!
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        • Author by shoes89 (April 16, 2008 5:41 pm ET)
             

          Deeznuts, let me answer your question this way:

          1. Which candidate was incessantly called a "rock star" even long before he announced his candidacy? (Here's one from the Los Angeles Times in 2005: link )

          2. About which candidate did Chris Matthews say he got "a thrill up his leg" after hearing his speech?

          3. Which candidate have MSM folks compared to Abraham Lincoln? (here and here)

          4. About which candidate was an NBC reporter so enthralled he said, "It's hard to stay objective about this guy"? (link w/ video)

          The answer to all of them, of course, is Barack Obama. The list could go on and on ... (example)

          As far as bias goes, it's not even close. The MSM is absolutely head-over-heels in love with Barack Obama!

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          • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 5:48 pm ET)
               

            They may be "in love" with Obama, but they're sleeping with McCain.

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          • Author by steve k (April 16, 2008 6:02 pm ET)
               

            They love Obama, because they hate Hillary Clinton, and the made-for-Hollywood narrative of a young, charismatic, biracial "Washington outsider" coming along and toppling her is too juicy to pass up.

            And in any case their love for Obama didn't stop them from circulating smears about his attending a madrassa (completely false, as this site has pointed out).

            Nor did it stop them from praising Obama's famed speech on race in one breath, then in the next re-running clips of Rev. Wright's inflammatory sermon over and over again. I mean, you'd think if the media felt that Obama's speech had adequately addressed the issue, they'd stop playing the clip and regard the issue as settled. But apparently not--all they care about is titillation.

            Once Obama is nominated, the knives will come out. Already of McCain's people have started to put together Youtube clips attacking Obama, including footage of Wright. As with Kerry and the SBVT, we'll suddenly see groups of "concerned citizens" running smear ads on TV, resorting to the filthiest kind of race-baiting. 

            And the media will smile and give "equal time" to lies and truth, while praising McCain as a nonpartisan "maverick".

            Nothing has changed.

             

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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 6:10 pm ET)
               

            How about this one, Shoes?  Whose voting record is more skewed towards "mainstream" by the media?

            "The likely Republican presidential nominee is much more conservative than voters appear to realize."

            "People see him as a centrist. They don't see him as a conservative," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press."

            "In fact, they put him pretty close to themselves, in terms of ideology, and put President Bush way to the right of themselves," Kohut said.

            "In a national Pew survey earlier this year, voters placed McCain in the middle, where they placed themselves, when asked to judge the ideology of Bush and the presidential candidates. They placed Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama far to the left."

            See how many errors you can find in this AP article, its staggering!

            http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24107084/

             

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      • Author by nerzog (April 16, 2008 5:21 pm ET)
           
        George Bush has gotten the biggest free ride from the press in modern history. Oh, yeah, the comedians make fun of him a lot, but if he had gotten the same scrutiny Bill Clinton did, he and Dickless Cheney would be in Federal Prison by now.
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    • Author by jeter2 (April 16, 2008 3:56 pm ET)
         

      And? So? What's the gripe here?

      McCain said: And, frankly, I'm very pleased with the relationship that I've had with the media over many years. And of course we've had differences, and I haven't liked every story. But I think the media plays a key and vital role...

      Obama has had a pretty smooth ride with the media for the most part. So have other politicans past & present.

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      • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 4:28 pm ET)
           
        I agree with the Obama thing, and although I would certainly vote for him, Hillary has been trashed by the media.
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        • Author by jeter2 (April 16, 2008 4:30 pm ET)
             
          Thank you for your honesty Rick. Maybe you could get Werner & Deez to be as honest.
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    • Author by werner (April 16, 2008 4:00 pm ET)
         

      "Obama has had a pretty smooth ride with the media"

       

      Jeter, are you out of touch with reality or just not following the news reports recently? 

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 16, 2008 4:13 pm ET)
           

        "out of touch with reality" is pretty harsh. I just call Jeter a reality maverick.

         

        [hey Jeter ------------------->  ;0) ]

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      • Author by jeter2 (April 16, 2008 4:15 pm ET)
           

        Werner,

        Please don't even go there. Obama has been the teflon candidate up until Wright & this latest controversy. And even then he skated by without too much damage where others would have been crushed by the media. 

        And he's basically been untouched by the MSM. Oh sure FOX might not treat him with kid gloves, but the rest of the media has been pretty kind.

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        • Author by deeznuts (April 16, 2008 4:22 pm ET)
             

          Just because the Wright thing (and that "elitism" nonsense) didn't do much damage doesn't mean the MSM ("Media Supporting McCain") didn't do their damnedest to try and bring Obama down.

          You're out of your frickin' mind if you think Obama is getting a pass of any kind.

          McCain can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. It's a fact. 

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          • Author by jeter2 (April 16, 2008 4:28 pm ET)
               

            Deez,

            The media has been gushing over Obama & had it not been for Wright & this latest dustup, I think even you'd be hard pressed to name another example of Obama being treated as anything but a rock star by the media.

            I don't deny the media has been kind to McCain for the most part, but the SAME can be said of Obama.

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            • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 5:19 pm ET)
                 

              I generally agree, Jeter, but there has been the dust-up over Wright and the "eliteism."  Maybe I am forgetting something, but has there been a McCain dust up?

              It came out yesterday that McCain is against the new GI Bill (he apparently is coming up with something else): http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=4652517&page=1

              He also doesn't seem to know what Petraeus's role is:

              http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/04/military_mccain_petraeus_041408w/

              but I have not heard these stories on TV (entirely possible they have been).

              To me, these are far bigger stories than "elitism" or a preacher, but no dustups and hardly and mentions of these "incidents" (is misstep a better term here?).

              Any idea why?

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              • Author by mary59 (April 17, 2008 10:20 am ET)
                   

                Of course they are bigger stories but the mainstream media doesn't care about that.

                I'm glad that some people in the army know that McCain is out to lunch and ignorant about the military as shown by your link to the Army Times.  It's mind boggling.  He preens and postures but votes against veteran's benefits, and doesn't even know what Gen. Paetraeus' role is.

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          • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 4:33 pm ET)
               

            I don't think Obama has been dragged through the mud the way Hillary has.  He's don an excellent job deflecting the few incidents he's had to weather.

            McCain ?  No argument here.  He doesn't have to be teflon if there's nothing thown at him.  The press has been giving him a free ride, complete with chauffer, in a Rolls Royce.

             

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        • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 17, 2008 12:43 pm ET)
             

          Jeter,

          What about McCain's non-support for the GI Bill and not actually knowing Petraeus's role?  Why aren't those stories yet?  Personally, I want to see if he comes up with an alternative for the GI Bill before judging, but time is running out on that end.

          I am still waiting for the MSM to adorn McCain with the flip-flop label he so richly deserves.  I am waiting for them to ask him about his role in the Keating 5 scandal and cheating on his wife only to marry a much younger rich heiress.  I am waiting for the MSM to ask him if he has figured out the differences in the sects of Islam.  Since Obama's faith has been such an issue, maybe someone in the MSM will ask McCain why he switched religions at the end of the 20th century.

          I think McCain has gotten a free ride on the war too.  His rhetoric at the start was similar to Cheney's:

           Script of Video:

              "Day at the Beach"

              http://youtube.com/watch?v=h-a5T0HsJpw

              August 2006: "We had not told the American people how tough and
          difficult this could be. It has contributed enormously to the frustration
          that Americans feel today because they were led to believe this could be
          some kind of day at the beach." [McCain in Columbus Ohio, Press Conference,
          aired on CNN, 8/22/2006, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14475828/ ]

          McCain: "And I believe that the success will be fairly easy." [CNN,
          Larry King Live, 9/24/02]

          2007: Russert: "Go back, Senator, to 2002 - the administration saying
          we'd be greeted as liberators." [MSNBC, 1/10/2007]

          2003: McCain: "There's no doubt in my mind that once these people are
          gone that we will be welcomed as liberators." [MSNBC, Hardball,
          3/24/03]

              McCain: "I believe that we can win an overwhelming victory in a very
          short period of time." [CNN Late Edition, 9/29/02]

          How is the media not asking him any of this?

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    • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 4:42 pm ET)
         
      "I'm very pleased with the relationship that I've had with the media over many years.  How would you like your steak?"
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    • Author by werner (April 16, 2008 4:49 pm ET)
         
      The media seems to be treating McCain just like they treated Bush in 2000.
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      • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 4:56 pm ET)
           
        The only reason they treated Bush so well in 2000, was the realization that the man was actually mentally retarded, and incapable of verbally defending himself.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (April 16, 2008 5:18 pm ET)
         
      The thought of having a beer with him was so special though.
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      • Author by therick (April 16, 2008 7:12 pm ET)
           
        Yeah, that was special, Ed.
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (April 16, 2008 8:37 pm ET)
             
          One of my coworkers went by Special Ed, I always figured his name translated from Portuguese was Irony.
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    • Author by thomp.steve9098 (April 16, 2008 5:22 pm ET)
         
      So the media loves the democratic candidate as well as the republican candidate. its a wash . . . Some, not I, may say that the media overstates the straight- talkers' qualifications, but the media also treats Obama with a veneration that borders on idolatry
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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 5:39 pm ET)
           

        Thomp,

        I agree for the most part, but the magnitude of this "elitism" controversey is amazing to me.  Wouldn't you think they would ask McCain why he does not plan to support the new GI Bill?

        As far as the issues go, I would love to see the media do its job and press all three of the candidates much harder and not worry about the stuff that only tars a candidate's reputation.  I want to hear proposed solutions and media scrutiny as to their viability.

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        • Author by worrierking (April 16, 2008 6:02 pm ET)
             
          I think the media would have a field day if Obama or Clinton was against increasing educational benefits for those who we've sent to fight.

          McCain seem to be doing the impossible.

          If I'm a unpatriotic for supporting the troops but not this war, then what would you call someone who supports the war but not those fighting it?
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          • Author by dazedandconfused26 (April 16, 2008 6:33 pm ET)
               
            A Republican
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 16, 2008 6:40 pm ET)
               

            Better yet, what do you call a physically fit, able-bodied, pro-war, surge cheerleading under-42 male who doesn't enlist?

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