Olbermann named NPR's Rudin "Worst Person" for comparing Clinton to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction
On Countdown, Keith Olbermann named Ken Rudin the "winner" of his nightly "Worst Person in the World" segment for asserting: "[F]irst of all, let's be honest here, [Sen.] Hillary Clinton is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. She's going to keep coming back, and they're not going to stop her." Olbermann commented: "[A]fter comparing Senator Clinton to the insane, murderous, kidnapping, stalking, knife-wielding, suicidal, bunny-boiling character of Alex Forrest, who has to be drowned and shot to be finally stopped in Fatal Attraction, even the harshest critic of Senator Clinton is probably beginning to think, you know, that might be a little harsh. Maybe an apology is in order."
During the April 28 edition of MSNBC's Countdown, host Keith Olbermann named National Public Radio political editor Ken Rudin the "winner" of his nightly "Worst Person in the World" segment for asserting, as Media Matters for America documented, "[F]irst of all, let's be honest here, [Sen.] Hillary Clinton is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. She's going to keep coming back, and they're not going to stop her." Olbermann observed: "On CNN yesterday, he broke a new bar. 'First of all,' he said, thus forgetting rule one, any time your statement begins with 'first of all,' stop immediately. It's a bad idea whatever it is. 'First of all, let's be honest here,' he said. 'Hillary Clinton is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. She's going to keep coming back, and they're not going to stop her,' unquote." Olbermann continued: "[A]fter comparing Senator Clinton to the insane, murderous, kidnapping, stalking, knife-wielding, suicidal, bunny-boiling character of Alex Forrest, who has to be drowned and shot to be finally stopped in Fatal Attraction, even the harshest critic of Senator Clinton is probably beginning to think, you know, that might be a little harsh. Maybe an apology is in order." He concluded: "Instead, a full minute later, Mr. Rudin wrapped up his guest appearance by adding, quote, 'She'll say, look I'm in it until the end. And I expect her to be in it until the end, as Glenn Close was.' OK, I'm not seeing any contrition here."
Additionally, Olbermann awarded Tim Graham, director of media analysis for the Media Research Center, the "silver" for writing that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "show[ed] she's more of a shallow politician than a devout Christian" when she called the Dalai Lama "His Holiness," without mentioning that President Bush has done the same, as Media Matters also noted. Olbermann stated: "Graham apparently was unaware that when the pope was in Washington two weeks ago, another politician addressed him as 'Holy Father,' and when the Dalai Lama was there last autumn, the same politician addressed him as 'Your Holiness' and referred to him three times as 'His Holiness.' That other politician who Graham might observe matches Pelosi's, quote, 'promiscuous definitions of holiness' and shows he too is 'more of a shallow politician than a devout Christian'? That guy would be President Bush."
From the April 28 edition of MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann:
OLBERMANN: Our silver winner tonight, Tim Graham, part of the little Brent Bozell witch's kitchen known as the Media Research Center and NewsBusters. Graham, identified as the director of media analysis, blogged about how House Speaker Nancy Pelosi referred to both Pope Benedict and the Dalai Lama as "His Holiness." "At best," writes Graham, "Pelosi's promiscuous definitions of holiness just show she's more of a shallow politician than a devout Christian."
Graham apparently was unaware that when the pope was in Washington two weeks ago, another politician addressed him as "Holy Father," and when the Dalai Lama was there last autumn, the same politician addressed him as "Your Holiness" and referred to him three times as "His Holiness." That other politician who Graham might observe matches Pelosi's, quote, "promiscuous definitions of holiness" and shows he too is "more of a shallow politician than a devout Christian"? That guy would be President Bush.
The nice thing about being on the opposite side of the war with the Media Research-NewsBusters crowd is they're really stupid.
But our winner, NPR political reporter Ken Rudin. On CNN yesterday, he broke a new bar. "First of all," he said, thus forgetting rule one, any time your statement begins with "first of all," stop immediately. It's a bad idea whatever it is. "First of all, let's be honest here," he said. "Hillary Clinton is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. She's going to keep coming back, and they're not going to stop her," unquote.
Greeted by a disbelieving, "What, Ken?" He added, "Well, we'll figure that out, there's a lot of ways to imagine that."
Look, you can choose a bad analogy. You can really screw it up. You can even say something innocent and clichéd and it comes out sounding utterly inappropriate. Trust me, I did the latter. But after comparing Senator Clinton to the insane, murderous, kidnapping, stalking, knife-wielding, suicidal, bunny-boiling character of Alex Forrest, who has to be drowned and shot to be finally stopped in Fatal Attraction, even the harshest critic of Senator Clinton is probably beginning to think, you know, that might be a little harsh. Maybe an apology is in order.
Instead, a full minute later, Mr. Rudin wrapped up his guest appearance by adding, quote, "She'll say, look I'm in it until the end. And I expect her to be in it until the end, as Glenn Close was." OK, I'm not seeing any contrition here. Ken Rudin of NPR, at the movies, so to speak, today's "Worst Person in the World."











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Save your phony indignation Keithy, nobody is buying it [except the usual lemmings]. After your bashing of Hillary for months you are hardly the one to call out others or award them with one of your silly awards.
Frigin hypocrite.
Grow a pair and name "the usual lemmings".
Oh Jeter, an anonymous website poster has just called you out!......tread lightly, the boogeman is after you.
HaHa
tread lightly, the boogeman is after you.
Ha! Nah it's only harmless little Gov. He just needs a nap.
Tommy and Jeter,
I think the request by Gov is legit...... you seem to want to bash KO for his appearent Hillary bashing and that that somehow means that KO loses his right to call out others..... Ko isn't perfect but he is the closest we have to a real newsman and certainly has made his fair share of mistakes.....
But that does not, by any means mean that KO loses his rights to opinions...... But like Gov asked..... prove your opinion on this matter to back up your thoughts? It's the least you should do.
Capt,
Speaking for me, not Jeter, Keith has the right to call out whomever he wants too, as do the rest of us in labeling him one-sided, and a hypocrite - that is our right. And Keith is hardly a "newsman", he is a demogogue, a partisan hack, who only has guests on his show that agree with him and reinforce his opinions. He is the left's mirrored answer to Sean Hannity, and others like him........sorry, that is my opinion.
And Keith has every right to his opinion, it's his show and he can share those opinions as freely as the rest of us do. I applaud his freedoms, just as I do ours.
Hey Gov do you know how to read? Good.
Then just read this thread as the day goes along. Those that defend St. Keith are the lemmings. They never have an unkind word to say about their boy, even when he's dead wrong.
In fact go back through the archives & read any Keithy thread. There be your lemmings.
See how easy that was? Bet you could have figured it out for yourself. Or am I giving you too much credit? Ha!
In fact go back through the archives & read any Keithy thread. There be your lemmings.
Wrong, Jeter. The lemmings are the ones who vote Republican, even though the GOP works AGAINST their best interests.
I knew you could follow simple directions.
It must be time for your nap. Here's your binky. Now into your crib.
Sleep tight, little Gov.
That should read COULDN'T follow simple directions.
Yeah my sweet Julia I'm causing trouble again ;-)
Olbermann has spent months bashing Hillary so for him to call someone out for insulting her seems just a tad hypocritical. Maybe if he gave himself one of his WPITW awards for knocking Hillary non-stop I'd be less critical.
BTW, did you notice our limericks on the other thread got removed? Wonder who flagged us? Party poopers!
Well, our limericks were way off topic. But there are some party poopers on this site that want everything to be serious all the time. So much of this stuff is so repetitive (not saying it shouldn't be here), but it gets boring. I'll admit to getting a little carried away with the fun. That's why I usually try to stay on topic with my limericks, but they aren't as fun sometimes.
Billo is certainly someone who deserves to be derided any time, so I take my shots just the same. Ah, I'm OT again. Flag me, please. But not until J2 reads it!
Jeter,
Your presumption that anyone that watches KO is a lemming is very disheartening..... that you think that gives me pause.... I'm an avid watcher of KO and can tell when he is wrong and have said as much in the past..... but I think that your post is wrong that those that watch and defend him are lemmings..... very unfortunate.
Ahh but Capt, Jeter could say the same thing if he listens to Rush to many of the people here (not necessarily you.) Saying all Rush listeners are mindless or what have you is doing the same thing. It's an easy way to characterize a group of people through insult and dismiss their opinion as irrelevant. It's why I don't engage in that type of labelling.
On a side note, I watch KO most nights, and I find him refreshing in the face of most of what Fox News has to offer, or CNN, or much of the rest of MSNBC. Him and Abrams. Though I'd venture to say Abrams is more balanced.
Dbeden,
While I applaud you for not labeling all Limbaugh listeners as ditto heads, most of your Liberal compatriots here do.
While I usually try to refrain from labeling folks, IMO, anyone that defends either Rush or Limbaugh--no matter what they say--are lemmings.
That was my point.
For Keith to call out others for knocking Hillary is a joke as that's all he's done for months.
Even Keith fans should be able to agree with that. If they don't...they are lemmings.
Jeter, like I said below, he has portrayed Obama more favorably more often than not. But he's defended Hillary too these past few months, and on occasion does say something nice about her. And no, I'm not apologizing for the man, but I do watch him regularly so I believe I have a fairly accurate portrait of his news casts over-all.
And to further your point, anyone who blindly follows anyone or anything without question is a lemming. In truth, I haven't really seen anyone on here who thinks KO is always right, and everything he says is true. There are shades of gray in everything.
Those who defend Keith no matter what he says or does are lemmings in my opinion. I could say the same about Rush Limbaugh defenders.
In this instance Keith calling someone out for insulting Hillary is laughable as Keith has spent months bashing her.
B I N G O!!
You're all over the map. I think Olbermann is a Clinton basher yet you tagged me as being lemming. You both brand people here are blind partisans, lemmings, and hypocrites as you post your junk here from your fun house of mirrors. Get a freakin' clue already and look up once in a while.
Sorry, can't look up. I am far too busy branding and tagging.
Whoa..........look at my looooooong neck in that cool mirror over there, this is fun..
Jeter I have to ask...do you regularly watch him? More often than not, he will portray Obama more favorably, but he has defended Hillary too on numerous occasions.
I watch him enough to have only seen him bashing Hillary. I can't recall anytime recently that he's had a kind word for her. Could I have missed it? Sure. But I find it hard to believe he's had much to say--in a positive way--if I missed them all.
And quite frankly there are some here who stick up for Keith no matter what he says or does. Just like some Cons think Rush walks on water.
And quite frankly there are some here who stick up for Keith no matter what he says or does.
Who?
JETER,
Calling someone out when they reference another person using Glen Close's charactor in Fatal Attraction is nothing what so ever by which KO calls out Hillary for whatever...... at no time what so ever has KO come close to the same stereotype about Hillary as this clown did using a rabbit boiling vengeful woman. KO is not a fan of Hillary to be sure, but I don't for a second believe that he thinks of her in those terms and your argument seems to be attempting to make that connection.
If you think that its the same or if I'm wrong and you can point that out.....I'm all bunny ears! :)
Save your phony indignation Keithy, nobody is buying it [except the usual lemmings].
Excuse Me?
Ha! Sorry Pearlene but when it comes to Keith....
Hey don't be insulted. We Cons are always referred to as Ditto Heads.
Hey don't be insulted. We Cons are always referred to as Ditto Heads.
Don't be insulted because you called me a "lemmings"? Have I EVER referred to you as a "ditto head"?
Jeter, you're not in the dog house you're not even in the yard with the dog.
Aw Pearlene :-/
Sorry but when it comes to Keith some here are lemmings. If you think I meant you...then I guess I did :-O
Keith deserved to be called out here.
I will now leave the yard...
But I'll be back!
Sorry but when it comes to Keith some here are lemmings. If you think I meant you...then I guess I did :-O
She may have gotten the idea after you told her you were sorry and then told her not to be insulted.
Obviously you twit.
Pearlene is a Keith lover, everyone knows that. She knew I meant her, I knew I meant her. YOU are the only one who is clueless here.
There are many Keith lemmings here. See if you can find them. It's like Where's Waldo? Have fun little Gov.
Kids!
"the so-called lemmings"
Check your name tag.
WHAT IS Hillary's side of the story besides winning at any cost?
I see you got all the talking points down.
Who the hell cares?
We're supposed to be talking about the sh*thead over at NPR.
Instead of wasting our time with Jeter's featherbrained slop.
"the sh*thead over at NPR".
Hey Jeter, serve me up a bowl of that featherbrained slop, will ya?
You've had enough Timmy...
Try something else.
Super job here by Olbermann...
It's tough for Jeter and Timmy to see NPR exposed as the right-wing hacks they are,
...hence, the silly posts we're getting from them now.
No Audit, we're sick of Keith being treated like some kind of saint here when he has spent months bashing Hillary & then turns around and calls out someone else for doing the same thing.
This story had it's own thread YESTERDAY. So Keith is the focus today....
Hey Gov I found another lemming!
Hunting for Keith lemmings is easy pickins here :-)
There's a difference between criticizing someone...
And producing the filth that the NPR chap Rudin did yesterday.
You're chest pounding is very unconvincing.
Wow Jeter
Whatever happened to respectful discourse, you don't see us calling you names, I'm surprised
As for the Olbermann bashing do you have any examples of him attacking Hills thighs or voice, or just that she's running a despicable campaign that has its last stop on O'Reilly for Christs sakes tommorow night
Thats because you all never provide proof
Olby is right to criticize her disgusting campaign tactics, again she had Obama and Osama in the same commercial, are you F'n kidding me right now. And yes she is going on O'Reilly, seems ever sinking that low isn'ty low enough for Clintons whatever it takes campaign
Wasn't Olberman the one who was going to take her out back and beat the snot out of her last week? Ah well, see how times change for him. Someone equates her to Glenn Close and Fatal Attraction and they're the bad people?
Keith, I somtimes enjoy your show, but this was just a dumb call... Especially in light of what you had said previous to this (even though you apologized and all), still, silly...
Is that what Olbermann said Magnolia?
"I'm going to beat the snot out of her?"
Or is this just something you imagined he said, and you wanted to practice your typing, so you made a post?
Mags
I agree with every criticism Olby lays at Hills campaign door
She's earned it, she had Obama and Osama in the same commercial last week and this week she is going on the O'Reilly factor
For Olby to silently accept what she is doing while slamming Republicans for doing the same would be the real hypocrisy
nein?
I have zero problems with him criticizing Senator Clinton, I'm voting for Obama in my primary next week just for the record. I don't agree with a lot of the things that she's said, and or done, and or stands for in her campaign. But he did say something about someone taking her into a back room, and only one person comes out.
Do I really think that Olbermann wants to beat up Hillary physically? No. Was it a stupid comment? Yes. Was the Fatal Attraction comment stupid as well? Yes. Maybe if he had called himself out for his stupid comment, I would lend an ear to this one in his WPITW segment, but in this case, when he said something as bad, or maybe worse than the comment he featured, it just rings, hollow. It stinks of WPITW segment jumping the shark so to speak.
Maybe he should just stop doing it, and move on, and do some real reporting as I know that he can.
I can think of an example where he called himself out and I can name two examples where he called out his own station, that he doesn't do both all the time isn't the point, it's that he ever does it at all
Righties want the WPITW segment to go away and so they banter at us day and night about how infantile and prejudicial it all is...we cannot buy into that, Keiths about the only friend we have left on TV
I was paraphrasing what he said.
Wasn't it something about taking her out back or into a back room, with the intention that she was to get a beat down from someone?
"Right. Somebody who can take her into a room and only he comes out." When they were talking about super delegates and all. Now was his comment mis-construed, or something like that? Maybe, but hey, he, of the WPITW should know better, since he normally takes people to task for comments such as he made, such as what he did about someone comparing Senator Clinton to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.
There wasn't or isn't much difference between the 2. Maybe what he should have done, as others have suggested, would be to give HIMSELF the WPITW award for making such a stupid comment. That would have endeared him even more to the folks that love him so.
Magnolia,
I have absolutely zero faith in what you're saying about Olbermann.
If he made an objectionable comment then give us some proof. It sounds like you're remembering, or you might remember, or you heard something when Michael Weiner Savage took a dump.......or you fell over and hit your head on the toilet and had a dream.
Give us a quote, have the balls to stand behind it, and then maybe someone here can research it to see if you know what the hell your talking about.
Otherwise, please stop typing.
What's worse, being compared to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, or to Nurse Ratched (as she's portrayed in the book)? I know this is rehashed everytime mmfa heaps praise on St. Keith, but did he ever name matthews wpitw when he on numerous occasions compared HC to the diabolical, torturing nurse? (rhetorical question of course)
RELEASE THE LEMMINGS!
There they go now.
Meep, meep, meep, mEep, meep.
You know, its hard to read a lemming's name tag.
I never said all Republicans are Rushbots, however, it may be that all Rushbots are Republicans. This clearly answers the sheep question.
Wait, we've got controversy here. The Sprint for the Edge has split in two. One group then managed to run into a cliff. Unamed sources identify the cliff as a Wright. They are forming comittees even as we speak.
The other group acclaimed a mule named Darlene as their spirtual leader. They expect to quickly disapear from history,"But at least we'll still be alive!", said a spokesperson, for the Mule.
At some point in the extraordinaryly busy Inauguration day of January 20, 2008, the newly Sworn 44th President of the United States will find time to sit down with Joint Chiefs of Staff... and as Commander in Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces, the new President will want to hear the various Chiefs of Staff's comprehensive opinions, on the present position of those more than 100,000 U.S. Troops occupying the nation of Iraq, and of their mission there (of what their mission is, and of what it should be, from that day forward)...
And as the newly Sworn 44th U.S. President settles in, to hear what the Chiefs of Staff think (and before he or she pronounces his or her Policy opinion, or Command, as Commander in Chief), and as the new Commander in Chief begins by recognizing first the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and asks his opinion first, by saying
"OK then men, Mr. Chairman I'll start with you, what is your professional opinion of the specific situation in..."
"Whoa whoa whoa!" Says the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. "Hold on there New Guy (or Gal) On The Job, be you Boss or whoever I don't care... there's a few important things need clearing up first: like, what about your Reverend? What's that incendiary fool's opinion about all things, most of all about America?
What about flag pins, and strange middle names and first names that sound like a terrorist's name, and did I or did I not see a picture of you on the news, wearing a bedsheet and a towel on your head and what was that all about anyway?
We'll get to the lesser matter of Iraq soon enough, but first thing's first, and what's really important is really important: Are you as crazy as they say you are, Madam President, as crazy as they say you are on cable television? And would you now or have you ever, boiled alive a bunny rabbit?"
Inquiring Minds Want To Know.
Gimme a break!!!!
Hillary Clinton is so hungry for the Oval Office she was willing to be publicly humiliated by her philandering husband and do nothing about it. Anyone who wants that kind of power above anything and everything else in the world should never be given the chance to wield it.
Comparing HC to the Glenn Close character is an insult to the Close character.
Umm, hey dunderhead.
Do you know anyone that was running for President who didn't really want it (aside from Thompson of course)?
Don't you think they all "really want it" when they start campaigning for the head office up there in DC?
That's so tired, the whole "she'll do anything to get to be President". Ah, so would McCain. So would Obama. So would anyone who has run a serious campaign this past year and a half.
You think that maybe, just possibly, she stayed with her philandering husband because she did see something good in her marriage that she wanted to save? I mean, get over yourself, isn't that a possibility? I'm assuming that you're a republican, and republicans are ALL about family values. She and Bill have showed the actual true meaning of family values if you ask me. They went through a severe rough patch, one that given the nature of their exposure to the public limelight made it even harder I would assume, and they came out the far end of it a-OK, and STILL married.
Ah, yes... start a debate with an insult. So typical of wingnuts of both the Left and Right.
But since you insist... anyone who cannot see that the "hunger for power" -- the willingness to do or say anything or pay any cost to win -- by both Bill and Hillary is far greater than for most self-serving politicians is either blind or stupid.
As for "saving her marriage," any number of politicans have had to face that decision -- most withdraw or minimize their public life to do so. Not Hill & Bill... they instead attack anyone who has the temerity to treat their adult daughter like a grown-up political operative by daring to ask about Bill's "issues." They have the ultimate marriage of convenience.
I don't particularly like Obama or McCain, but you can count me among those who make up that large "strong negative opinion" group about Hillary Clinton ... and would absolutely vote AGAINST her.
No, I'm not a Republican, nor am I Democrat ... I'm a realist looking for the best future for America among a group of. once again, mediocre candidates. And I think "family values" are something to keep within the family -- not the government.
So, how's that "checks and balances" thing worked out for you the last seven years? Did it work well about the war in Iraq? Prisoner torture? Domestic wiretapping?
Think those checks and balances have prevented the rise of a unitary executive, do you?
Holy cow!! 83 posts about Olbermann and Sueeld hasn't chimed in yet? I'm still a little confused though. Since this website is funded by Soros and was created by Hillary, shouldn't she be able to put a stop to the Olbermann bashing threads about her?
"[F]irst of all, let's be honest here, [Sen.] Hillary Clinton is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.
You know, whenever I hear someone start off by saying, "Let's be honest here...", I expect either something dishonest or exaggerated.
Just be glad we live in a country that doesn't imprison people who say bad things about politicians.