O'Reilly guest host's comment on Chinese Olympic team: "I thought 'baby fat' was one of the Chinese volleyball players"
On the August 22 broadcast of The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly, in reference to allegations that the female gymnasts on the Chinese team did not meet Olympic age requirements, guest host Doug McIntyre aired a song that he said was "courtesy of WBAP, news talk out of Texas, a tribute -- a musical tribute to the Chinese Olympic team." The portion of the song aired by McIntyre includes the lyrics "[t]hey said that you were too young, I thought that was your name." Seconds later, the song asked: "How do you hide your baby fat? You can fake a passport, or do the twist, but you don't seem to know how to drive." McIntyre commented, "I thought 'baby fat' was one of the Chinese volleyball players."
From the August 22 broadcast of Westwood One's Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly:
McINTYRE: The point is, there's always controversy, because the stakes are so high, either for national pride, professional pride, or let's face it -- Olympic gold doesn't end just with a medal. It can end with the Wheaties box cover; Michael Phelps hit the jackpot.
But we also have these little girls in the Chinese Olympic team. You're supposed to be 16 years old in order to compete in the Olympics. That's the rule. And everybody's looking at the gold-medal-winning Chinese gymnastic team, saying, "Are those girls 16? Jeez, they look little tiny -- little tiny girls." It's already become courtesy of WBAP, news talk out of Texas, a tribute -- a musical tribute to the Chinese Olympic team.
[song begins]
McINTYRE: Oh, yeah, everybody sing it out.
[song continues]
MALE: Not even into your teens, up on that beam, your chest no bigger than mine -- you're Chinese, you're beautiful, and you're 9.
CHORUS: You're just 9.
MALE: They said that you were too young, I thought that was your name. Now, imagine my chagrin -- you're Chinese, you're beautiful, and you're 9.
CHORUS: You're just 9, 9, 9.
MALE: You're a baby, you're a tot, even my nephew says that you're not hot. You flip and you flop all around the mat. How do you hide your baby fat? You can fake a passport, or do the twist --
McINTYRE [speaking over music]: I thought "baby fat" was one of the Chinese volleyball players.
MALE: -- but you don't seem to know how to drive.
MALE: You're Chinese, you're beautiful, and you're 9.
CHORUS: Little bitty bed-wetting 9.
MALE: You're Chinese, you're beautiful, and you're 9.
CHORUS: Little bitty nose-picking 9.
[song fades]
McINTYRE: Oh, that is the hit song everybody's singing in the Olympic village, courtesy of very funny guys down at WBAP in Texas. We thank them for that.
So, it's just, you know, part of -- remember when -- speaking of the Cold War, we've been talking a lot about the Cold War, back in the days when there was still East Germany and there were always questions about these East German judges, who would like -- these American divers or gymnasts would have, like, all 10s. And then the East Germans would say, "2.0." They're just -- or the East German female swimmers looked like linebackers, looked like they used to spend their time protecting Brett Favre, and all of a sudden they're in a Speedo.
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Ahhhh,, harrumph...well, uhh, this is......
Lighten up MMFA.
Oh yeah, that's right... justa joke.
Got it.
And if the tables were turned...
And if the tables were turned...
What exactly does that mean? Are you saying if the US Gymnastic Olympic team tried to pass off underage kids as 16 that no one could poke fun?
This song is making fun of the Chinese attempting to present underage kids as 16 year olds. What exactly do you find so offensive?
Too Young? Ever hear of Egg Foo Yong? Baby Fat? Ever watch Hawaii 5-0? Remember Wo Fat? It's probably just a play on those "names".
And the East Germans did try to pass off men as women [remember their state sponsored doping program] back during the Cold War era. And they did look more like men than women.
Please tell me why you find this song so offensive? If I'm missing something, I'm willing to hear what it is.
Exactly.
Jeter seems to think that if someone doesn't find a 'joke' funny then that person must be 'offended'.
For the record... I am not Chinese or Asian for that matter. I have no stake in this whatsoever. It just wasn't funny. It was dumb... along the lines of any so-called 'humor' uttered by rightwingers.
Oh yeah, that's right... justa joke.
Got it.
And if the tables were turned...
If you weren't offended [because it sounded like you were by what you wrote] then what was your point? What do you mean about tables being turned? If the joke didn't tickle your funny bone, then why not just say so.
I know Rabbit, my point was why not just say the joke isn't funny, instead of asking : what if the tables were turned? You obviously found it offensive, my question is why?
Jeter,
It's offensive because The O'Reilly Factor is supposed to be looking out for me. They failed to look out for me here. I feel swindled.
It's not that it's offensive (even though it is), it's that it's not funny.
Mag,
It wasn't roll on the floor laughing funny, but it wasn't unfunny. And please tell me why you think it's offensive, because I just don't see it that way.
Put it this way...
If a Chinese journalist went on TV and said something like "I'm surprised Americans can run or swim or do anything physical since they're all so overweight and unhealthy," would that be OK?
Frankly, I'm not remotely surprised this happened on O'Reilly.
The rightwing would be outraged. I can hear it now...
'Oh, how DARE those ****** attack US red-blooded Americans!'
Rabbit,
Like finding yourself in quicksand, the more you defend a toss away line like you gave above, the more you sink.
Listen, dummy, the only people in the quicksand right now are McCain and his idiot supporters, including you. Christ, the man cannot even air a SINGLE ad promoting HIS agenda! Nope... just nothing but ads attacking Obama/Biden and now... scummy as it is... using Hillary to troll for votes. Can we say desperate?
Your man and your side have NOTHING. NOTHING to offer this country. All you can do is scrape the bottom of the barrel. That's it.
Now pull yourself out of that one.
Actually, it's "couldn't". Why?
If you "could" care less, that means you actually have space left to "care" about whatever it is you're talking about.
If you "couldn't" care less, that means you have no space left to care about whatever it is you're talking about.
Sorry, it's one of my pet peeves that people get wrong all of the time.
And how do you know how much "space" I have left to care about this? I was correct the first time. If you couldn't care less, it's all good...
(I can't believe we are even arguing over this)
Agreed: the phrase is, "I couldn't care less". It's a pet peeve of mine too, when people don't get it right. Same with there/they're/their, your/you're and to/two/too.
Saying that you could care less means just that - you care some, but you could care even less. It makes no sense.
I'm not sure this has so much to do with thickness of skin as it does with color.
So.... this is rightwing humor?
Oh? I was meant to laugh?
Guess my ass isnt tight enough to see it!
ha...... ha.......... ha
Looks like this subject is from the prelims of this week. This is an exhibition round. Lots of action will be flying around. I expect some posters to connect this to abortion before page 2.
Prince,
You just did.
I am not to be confused with the other POW who was known as the TORTURED POW John McCain by the jerks Quinn and Rose this morning...It was always the "Tortured" POW.
Sorry, off topic.....but you will hear it more as the days go by...
A descriptive adjective and then a POW
If FNC is a blog, that would make MMFA a BOG.. lots of swamp, plenty of stink...
*sniff*sniff*
Who stepped in MISSDEE?
Sorry, I did. I got her all over my shoes.
Yeah... I get it know...
Jokes based on racial stereotypes, even fairly clumsily constructed ones = FUNNY
Jokes demonstrating conservative hypocrisy or religiuous lunacy in a satirical, witty and yet logically consiustent manner = SACRILIGE
YOU guys on the right need to lighten up, and pick up some wit while you're at it. You are so out of touch, that it's NOT FUNNY at all. That you would seek to govern would be laughable if your ideas weren't so dangerous.
But "cha-grine"?
I realize that there are hardly ANY words rhyme with "nine" and all, but really, somebody should lose their FCC license for that one.
I'm feelin' frisky!
King Glut (King Glut)
Now when he was a young man,
He never thought he’d see
A black man blocking him, from the Presi-den-cy
(King Glut) How’d you get your money?
(Lucky Glut) Was it your blond honey?
Lives in Arizona,
Lost his maverick persona (King Glut).
Drillin’ in your backyard (Oil Glut)
Playin’ the race card (Right-wing Glut)
Even Bush thinks he’s a retard (Iraqi Glut)
Now, when I’m rich,
Now don’t think I’m a nut,
Just want some fancy houses,
Like those owned by King Glut (King Glut)
He really is a Dummy,
Older than a mummy,
Lives in Arizona, lost his maverick persona,
Can’t use a cell phon-ia, his TWELVE Condos are a boner,
King Glut!
tommy,
I'll say it...it was falling down funny...along with being a big WITH.
Wes, you have no wit.
Tommy - racial stereotypes are misinformation that support the conservative agenda by feeding their xenophopbia and fears of anything remotely different from themselves. They are lies told by conservatives, to conservatives. THAT'S why it's here.
I wish you people would stop asking WITH so often. I've asked it myself ONCE or TWICE, but you once-or-twice-a-weekers (sometimes every day!) are the ones getting ridiculous.
I came to the conclusion long ago that the reason "why this is here" is often precisely because people like TOMMY and SUEELD would ask.
MMFA is providing a service. And it looks like some of our resident wingnuts are in dire need of that service.
Deez,
MMFA is pushing is simply pushing it's agenda undercover. When the threads don't match the "mission statement" then you see the WITH pop ups.
What is the stereotype here? That Chinese people are actually fat? That "Fat" is a Chinese last name? Or that the Chinese gymnastics team pushed underage girls into the competition?
The first I don't see at all, the second is true, and the third is a valid criticism. I think there's too much WITH here, but this is a bad joke at worst as far as I'm seeing.
Right wing talkers are always yammering about how their critics unfairly accuse them of racism. You don't think this post might be here to document that Bill O'Reilly's radio show was given to a man who thought it would be funny to play a song that had no point other than to play on stereotypes about Chinese people?
The next time Bill O'Reilly claims that he doesn't traffic in racism and that he doesn't tolerate racism, remember how he handed his microphone over to this jackass.
Tommy's following in Jeter's footsteps on this one, I see.
I just love how righties think they can speak for our side. I mean, just amazing that psychic ability they must possess! ;)
I'm not offended, and I wouldn't call this a 'shining example' of racism. But it's worth documenting an example of a flagrantly racist joke on a show that claims to have higher standards than it actually does.
Silly? You bet. And that's exactly the point, because O'Reilly and company claim to be above this sort of cheap racist humor.
I know, I know, it violates every tenet of left wing political correctness; the real time 24/7 monitoring and "gotcha", finger wagging, schoolmarm mentality that exists today.
How did we as a country ever live without it?
What's so hard about acknowledging that the guest host of Bill O'Reilly's show went out of his way to mock Chinese names? It's not even very offensive -- it's just mocking Chinese names. What's so hard about recognizing that, Tommy?
You're acting as if there's some reason that one might not want to acknowledge racist jokes when people make them. Now what would that reason be?
If your subtly trying to accuse me of being a racist because my panties are not in a bunch over this harmless silly radio blather, be my guest Vy. You look foolish if that's the case.
Oh, and I couldn't care less.
How about answering the questions asked of you for a change?
Obviously you're 'impressed', otherwise you wouldn't be responding.
Anyway... once again, you are true to form. Dodging as always. :)
And you claim that your skin isn't so thin, huh? Sheesh.
Let me be absolutely clear. We have here a case of a national radio show that claims to be above racism giving audience to a man who plays a song that does nothing other than mock a people for names that sound funny in English. And yet you take issue not with that hypocrisy, but with people who point out that hypocrisy.
Tommy, I don't think you're racist and I have no reason to believe that this guest host is racist. I just think that I've got pretty solid grounds for arguing that this song and this host's comments mocked Chinese people for their names, and that Bill O'Reilly claims that he and his show are above cheap racist jokes.
(Stop me when I've said something with which you disagree.)
I called the host a jackass, and that's because he's a grown man acting like a child for making jokes about how people from other places and cultures have names that sound strange.
I genuinely don't understand why you've taken issue with anything I've said.
You are entitled to your opinion. Mine is that I don't find this offensive, I don't find it racist, I don't find it anything but a silly irrelevant mildly humorous dumb joke by a radio talker. It pokes fun at a Chinese name, so what. It pokes fun at their alleged underage gymnasts, so what. It's a play on words that is harmless and totally unworthy of over 100+ posts about it. I accept my responsibility in furthering this thread discussion on something so absolutely idiotic as highlighting this throwaway line, as AA aptly put it. I have said my piece, if you don't agree or accept it, so be it.
And if I unjustly accused you of accusing me of racism, I apologize.
I think that's exactly my point, Tommy. It's silly. It's juvenile. The joke boils down to, "Those people sure are different! Even their names sound weird! Ha!" It's not a horribly offensive slur, and I don't claim that it is.
But Bill O'Reilly claims that his show isn't a forum for racism. And yet when MMFA documents that it is, MMFA is greeted by people who argue, "Hey, he's just having a little fun! Why so thin skinned?"
Let me say again for the record: I don't think you're racist. And I agree -- this is nothing more than a bad joke that "pok[es] fun at a Chinese name." But that is the very definition of mocking a people for nothing other than being different. I don't even think there's anything wrong with doing that in some contexts, but in this case, this is a show that claims to have higher standards and claims that its critics falsely accuse it of catering to racial and ethnic stereotypes.
(Apology gratefully accepted, by the way. Thank you.)
After all, old age is a universal.
"Old' jokes have been funny for a long time. There is a time and place for offensive type humor, and I personally enjoy it sometimes, but O'Reilly's radio show, probably not the place for it. And, see my other post above. This "song" wasn't even really funny. This sort of thing belongs more on a morning drive time type radio show.
heh. Old people.
, but O'Reilly's radio show, probably not the place for it. - MagLover
You know, the more I think about it, the more I think maybe O'Really's show IS the place for it. I mean, when I think underage asian girls, I think O'Really. Now, your first reaction might be to say "Limpaugh", but from what we know about his Dominican trip... No, I think O'Really is the authority here.
The racist xenophobes that populate the heart of the Conservative "Movement" have grown "fat".
So, now you're saying they've become chinese?
Those people are idiots.... period.
Or a socialist. If people would actually read his books they'd get a much better sense of his political leanings.
And btw, this billboard is by the Minneapolis airport.
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/35700/thumbs/s-BILLBOARD-large.jpg
Now that's comedy!
Magnolia,
There are too many who think that he's Muslim (as if that matters) despite all evidence to the contrary, you're right. Even otherwise intellgent, well-educated people claim this; I have relatives with advanced degrees who have sent me email claiming that Obama is a "stealth muslim" and on the same day have forwarded me email about how his ties to his "black power Christian pastor" should keep him out of office. I don't even know how to respond anymore.
Mags,
There are still 80% of liberals here who believe that is true. :-)
And he says I'm in the quicksand?
Talk about 'throwaway lines'... god...
Nerzog,
Again you are creating your own argument and assigning it to Republicans. Some call that "projection".
I heard the term Marxist about 14 times this morning on the radio....
Marxist this, marxism that everywhere a Marx Marx, ei, I, ei I oh....
Every time I hear a wingnut use the words "Marxist" or "socialist," I am reminded of the words of Inigo Montoya in The Princess Bride:
You keep using that word...I do not think it means what you think it means.
Oh, and it was referring to Obama and Biden
?
Lor,
Were you listening to Air America?
Marx himself said:
"revolutionary phrase-mongering"
But, I think the righties just phrase monger, has nothing to do with revolutionary.
Excellent ad. Obama is finally beginning to 'get it'. I hope he keeps it up. THIS is what we need... we need to hammer hard back at Gramps.
Now the Repubs will complain that it isn't fair.
I hear that McCains response was "I resemble that remark".
So, I guess nine year olds kicking a$$ and getting gold is just too much for the good ol' media muckies.
Actually, I was thinking that the US and EVERYONE else ought to be ashamed that nine year olds kicked their butts.
Other than that....whats the point again of this story other than crude song?
A funnier comment would have been:
"So, which Chinese gymnast was Tew Young? Oh, all of them were!"
Randy
Time to check that mission statement here at MMfA: "...dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."
Misinformation? Hey, it was a JOKE. It doesn't matter if you find it funny or not. I hate to say it, but WHY IS THIS HERE?
"The misinformation here is that racist humor is funny" ETRW
That sentence does not make any sense. It is a non-sequitor.
When did Andy Warhol's long-lost love child surface?