In WND column, Corsi co-author Craig R. Smith called Obama "our first hip-hop president"
In his August 25 WorldNetDaily column, Craig R. Smith, who co-wrote Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil (WND Books, October 2005) with Obama Nation author and WND staff writer Jerome Corsi, asserted that "the real reason" Sen. Barack Obama's election would be "a moment of historical significance unlike any other" is because Obama "will be our first hip-hop president." Smith continued: "I can only imagine how the world will embrace the leader of the free world when he introduces other foreign leaders with, 'give it up for my man Vladimir.' Giving 'props' for joining us in a treaty. Or the first lady Michelle talking about 'my man' the 'daddy of my babies' when referring to the president. ... The use of ghetto slang during the primaries and even today may be a clear indication just how the Obamas intend to 'roll' if given the privileged seat in the Oval Office." Smith also wrote: "I can see it now. Air Force One decked out with '22s' and spinners. Maybe even a set of hydraulics. Watching the hip-hop president in the Oval Office with his baseball cap on backward coping a gansta lean in the big chair. Should be really pimp, don't you think?"
Smith's column was highlighted by Atlantic Media blogger Andrew Sullivan on August 27.
From Smith's column, headlined "The hip-hop president":
If Barack Obama is to become our 44th president, it will be heralded as a moment of historic significance unlike any other. However, I think many are missing the real reason why.
It's because Barack Obama will be our first hip-hop president.
I can only imagine how the world will embrace the leader of the free world when he introduces other foreign leaders with, "give it up for my man Vladimir." Giving "props" for joining us in a treaty. Or the first lady Michelle talking about "my man" the "daddy of my babies" when referring to the president. That should go over well everywhere from 10 Downing Street right on down to the streets of the Middle East.
The use of ghetto slang during the primaries and even today may be a clear indication just how the Obamas intend to "roll" if given the privileged seat in the Oval Office. Of course, having no sense of decorum and awe is nothing new to Democrats. Bill Clinton did a masterful job of disgracing the office, and I expect no less from Obama if given the chance.
But he will be so fly!
I can see it now. Air Force One decked out with "22s" and spinners. Maybe even a set of hydraulics. Watching the hip-hop president in the Oval Office with his baseball cap on backward coping a gansta lean in the big chair. Should be really pimp, don't you think? Cool man, real cool. Instead of giving away presidential cuff links to guests, as is the custom, he will offer "bling bling."
I imagine a whole group of special advisers to the president sitting around the Oval Office discussing policy. Kanye West, 50 Cent and maybe even Eminem (to keep the diversity thing going), all sharing their life experiences with the prez to assist him in understanding his "peeps."
No more press conferences or State of the Union addresses will be necessary. He will text message any comments he has to his public and his pals in the media. When it comes time for the State of the Union, he can just post it on his blog and cc the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post. The first interactive, full-bandwidth prez. How 21st century.
After a few months on the job, he can refer to his cabinet members as his "bitches." Hey don't get angry at me. Take a listen to any hip-hop song, and that is the type of endearing language you will hear. A group of playas that have no respect for the country. The same country that affords them a lifestyle most people only dream of, and all they can do is endlessly complain about it. Barack is very good at putting America down. Just like his hipster homeboys. Remember that hip-hop is a culture, not a color. It's a mind set and a way of life -- one that is chosen not inherited. It has been slowly infiltrating every class and race in America for years. A culture that has led people to believe they deserve more. That America somehow owes them something. And because they think they have been ripped off in some fashion, they are angry.
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This is insane. This is absolutely assinine. Apparently this guy thinks all black people are a cross between Ludikris and Johnny Cochrane. (While performing I mght add... I'm sure they're not like thier "public selves" all the time!) I wonder what Clarence Thomas, Alan Keys, J.C. Watts and Thomas Sowell would have to say about this moron's comments?
This is why the republicans will lose. Because this is the best they've got. And even within their legions of the ignorant, there are enough that see through this kind of racist nonsense. Why doesn't he just come out with it and call him a nigger? He's done just about everything else in the space of 15 seconds. What made him stop? Does he really think it's not racist as long as he doesn't say the "n-word" or wear a sheet?
What an absolute idiot.
Wait a minute. The "hip hop lifestyle" includes owning guns, calling women "b!tches", driving large gas gusslers, showing off their wealth, using the N-word.
Who are we talking about exactly?
Someone refresh my memory. Was it BET that called Michelle Obama Barack's "baby's mama", or said that Hillary "dissed" Barack? Nope, it was that "hip hop nation" known as Fox News.
John McCain called his wife the c-word in public, so maybe he's the real first "hip-hop" president.
Or maybe the first hip-replacement president...
OK, the words "hip" and "John McCain" should never appear in the same paragraph.
Or maybe the first hip-replacement president...
He'd be tied with Reagan.
He almost sounds like the parody of Bill Cosby / Cliff Huxtable that they did on the Simpsons...
"Y'see, the kids, they listen to the rap music, which gives them the brain damage. With their hippin' and their hoppin', and their bippin', and their boppin'...so they don't know what the jazz is all about!"
Except that he's acting like he's making a legitimate point, instead of doing self-parody, or just being dopey on purpose.
Don't get me wrong now, I'm with you... but what's a P*****?
Maybe I'm just getting old and unhio, but I honestly have no idea what the "P-Word" is.
LOL. :)
The once was a man from BrunsWICK...
Who constantly played with his...
(You can prick your finger, but DON'T FINGER YOUR .... George Carlin)
[I apologize. Apparently I'm feeling immature today.]
Question though... Why do we [and by 'we' I mean people who are comfortable discussing race and who does believe that discrimination or racial stereotypes are the least bit defensible] insist on saying "n-word"? It seems to me that if you're not calling someone one, or referreing to someone (or a group of people) by that term, that there's not may not really be any racist context. And context is key - if I WERE calling someone an "n-word" am I really of the hook? I don't think so! If I were to (for example) say "I agree with a lot of what Obama says, but I just can't see myself voting for an n-word" is that really any better than just coming out and saying what everyone knows I mean? (Looking at it, it almost sounds WORSE!) It seems that someone [less enlightened] might think they can be let off the hook for spouting racist nonsense if they say "n-word" instead of "nigger." But it's not the WORD that's the problem - it's the context, and the intent of the speaker.
And I'm not making the argument here that because SOME black people use it casually, that it's suddenly OK for white people to say it casually. That absurd. But in a discussion of racist language and stereotypes, it just seems... I don't know... silly somehow to say "Why doesn't he just come out call him an n-word?" Which is why I didn't say it that way, I guess. And somehow I can't see anyone calling me a racist just because I said "nigger" instead of "n-word." (Again, IN THE CONTEXT, that I used it.)
Now... as to the profanity aspect... I'm not completely heartless here, I understand that part of it... But again it comes down to CONTEXT. I can't think of any context off hand that in anyway sanitizes F---, S--- or C---. But for my part I can't see anything wrong with what I said in this post or my earlier one.
Any thoughts? It's a little bit off a thread-jack, but not completely off-topic.
Whoa. We REALLY NEED an edit function here!
I hope it's obious to all that the above passage should have read:
[and by 'we' I mean people who are comfortable discussing race and who believe that discrimination and/or racial stereotypes aren't the least bit defensible]
Wow. That's a pretty serious typo on my part! Hope that didn't trip anyone up!
As to why black people use it so much, I can't say. Maybe it's their way of stealing its power, much like the Mexicans with that holiday when they make fun of death.
I'm just guessing.
Oh yeah. (Not that I have any right to an opinion here but) that's they way I always interpreted younger, black people casual use of the word: as a way to rob it of its power. And while I'm OK with that (me and a fellow Italian-American friend of mine called each other 'wop' and 'guinea' all the time back in school) it's also a generational thing. Young people of all races treat language this way - to take all the teeth out of the 'bad' or 'oppressive' or 'hateful' words. (Kind of a sticks-and-stones thing.) At the same time I can see why the older set, who grew up with that word when it REALLY had teeth and was used quite commonly, would hang on to the notion that its taboo should be respected.
"as a way to rob it of its power."
Such words will ALWAYS have power as long as they elicit an emotional response from the hearer. I'm not insensitive to the power of such words to hurt...but they will only hurt as long as you allow them to. No one can completely control the reasons people use derogatory words...but we ALL *can* control our own response to them.
When the speaker no longer gets the response wanted from the hearer...THEN the words will lose their power, and not before.
" As to why black people use it[nigger] so much, I can't say. Maybe it's their way of stealing its power..."
thats absurd. I don't think that all blacks gathered somewhere and unanimously decided they were going to rob the word if its power (among other things).
More likely that it has become part of black culture as a result of them being labeled thus for such a long time. And now it is simply being perpetuated throughout the generations.
Eddie-
It has nothing to do with the N-word. The point is to not 'appear' to be racist, while spreading a racist message. It helps mainstream folks and leaners feel better about that racism they've had bottled up for so long.
It's kind of like when someone says to you "I'm not a racist, but..." followed by some extremely racist thought or statement. The qualifier is used to make you think they're just like you. Trust me, they're not.
The qualifier is used to make you think they're just like you. Trust me, they're not,
bless their hearts. ;)
I'm with you... but what's a P*****?
I got here too late. I was going to post, "It's another word for P****."
This is a developing headline over at raw story:
Did McCain ad intend to show 'HANG' over Obama image?: Soon...And then we have good ol' halliburton engaging in human trafficking. Talk about perpetuating slavery...Here's the ad. What do y'all think, was the editing deliberate?
The cut-out is definite an odd shape. To me it looks deliberate, and like it was intended to be somewhat subliminal, despite it's clumsy execution.
It's definitely not racist though. [/sarcasm]
AA....This is what.
The C and the E are removed from the letters that spell CHANGE in the photo, so on the Anti-Obama ad it leaves the letters HANG.
The photo is positioned to the far right removing the E, and the letter C is blotted out by an oddly misshapen black shadow.....the remaining black format focuses attention on the remaining letters: HANG.
SNOOPY: This is a developing headline over at raw story:
Did McCain ad intend to show 'HANG' over Obama image?: Soon...And then we have good ol' halliburton engaging in human trafficking. Talk about perpetuating slavery...Sorry Gray. I got it from the pic. I was just being silly.
Also, the part that is not blurred out seems to be in a noose shape. hmmm.
and obama is black too....
maybe this is all tied together!
The right is hate. Own it.
Barack is very good at putting America down.
So, in other words, George W. Bush's incompetence, Dick Cheney's mendacity, and Republican greed are sacred American institutions that cannot be criticized?
And, regarding Smith's racially inflammatory comments, I agree with the poster above...why don't these cowards just come out and call Barack the "N" word and get it over with? Then they can pretend to be the victims when all hell breaks loose.
Bingo. Remember when they proclaimed that you could not criticize a President as long as we have troops in harm's way? Any bets on how quickly that restriction will evaporate if Obama is elected?
Was that ever the case when Bill Clinton was president and we had troops in Bosnia and Somalia? No - that rule only applies to Republicans.
Double Bingo.
"Was that ever the case when Bill Clinton was president and we had troops in Bosnia and Somalia? No - that rule only applies to Republicans."
Wait, are you saying that Clinton was actually criticized for bombing Serbia?? I find that difficult to believe.
And by the way, I personally believe we should be able to criticize whomever is in the white house, no matter the circumstances.
And by the way, señor Bush has been criticized much despite the war.
I'm not saying we can or can't critisicze, or that Bush or Clinton were or weren't. That's not thepoint.
The point is this: The Right Wings mouthpieces routinely question the patriotism of those who have critisised Bush, despite the fact that they had no problem critising Clinton. The say it's because we have troops fighting. But they attached Clinton foreign policy plenty (and YEAH - Clinton DID get a lot of resistance from Republicans in Congress as well as on talk radio over his policies twoards Serbia & Milosovich) despite the fact that he had troops in the field. It is Republican hypocrisy and double standards thats at issue here.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/stories/2005/08/17/heresWhatRepublicansSaidAboutClintonAndKosovo.html
Wait a minute...wait a minute.... Did I just read, amongst all the prejudiced stereotyping and cultural ignorance, the following:
"Of course, having no sense of decorum and awe is nothing new to Democrats."
I honestly don't think that humans - without divine intervention - could ever devise a more dead-solid-perfect description of the Karl Rove conservative strategy of pre-emptive projection than this column.
Barnie, you were having trouble with that word "projection" a few days ago. Are you paying attention?
I notice you have your head up your azz.
But hang in there, I am donating money to medical science in the hope to find the cure. Together we can do it! :)
I imagine a whole group of special advisers to the president sitting around the Oval Office discussing policy. Kanye West, 50 Cent and maybe even Eminem (to keep the diversity thing going), all sharing their life experiences with the prez to assist him in understanding his "peeps."
I would imagine this as a slight improvement over our current situation, where the President's special advisors are Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Condoleeza Rice (to keep the diversity thing going).
Now, Barack Obama, and his advisors would be a HUGE improvement, and may even be able to get this great country back on track!!
God, I hate these bastards. I hope the Democrats bury them in November.
Nerzog,
Why can't we all just get along?
After Unfit for Command was published, and it became known what a bigoted nutcase Corsi was, John O'Neill denied Corsi was the co-author of the book.
Who knows, maybe Corsi will now deny Smith is his co-author.
Doug Reese
PS. I was in the Hanoi Hilton the other day (the prison, not the hotel -- believe it or not, there IS a Hilton in Hanoi). I couldn't help but think of several posters here when I saw, oh, perhaps 4-5 photos of your favorite POW.
The point of it ...no matter how sick, ridiculous or preposterous it sounds to us, is to make the racists run for their white sheets......it's all imagery; crazy, far fetched, or subtle.
You shoot the ideas into the ozone, and somewhere between there and earth, you will grab the attention of those who will latch on to something that was thrown out.....most will reject the most far fetched statements, but others will latch on to some parts of it.
This past weekend there was a guest on a morning show, discussing how to present yourself or ideas to succeed in life....sit like the person who is interviewing you, mimic their tone/actions, etc. The discussion that I found interesting was about imagery and word use to get others "to think" what you want them to without using obvious coercion.
The example was that if you want to suggest that someone be selected for a position, you simply talk about that person positively over and over (Maverick?)....such as wouldn't Bob make a wonderful department head, Did you see what Bob did, isn't he a great team leader?, Can't you just see Bob doing that, he seems to be a natural. It's all about planting seeds (in a positive or negative way) as MMFA has shown hundreds of times over the past years.
The right wing is obviously using this technique, but they start with mutant seeds, and add way too much manure when they plant them.
Graydogs,
You make a good point. The real insidiousness of this piece is its subtle messages of advancing stereotypes and imagery "uncomfortable" to some white people. Undoubtedly there will be some who will just not vote for Barack Obama because he is black, no examining of his message or his character or his vision, his skin color is a dealbreaker and that's that. Their racism permeates their sense of fairness and objectivity, are they a lost cause? Probably.
But articles such as this don't have much affect on those "lost causers", they are slyly aimed at those who just aren't sure, who perhaps are impressed by Obama's message, even agree with much of it perhaps, and see his family as "normal", and "one of us", but old stereotypes and deeply held fears may just, maybe, keep them pulling that lever and it's better to go with the "white" guy, McCain, safe, less risk.
This hideous, contemptible piece by this slime merchant Smith is for those people. If it can feed into those fears, shake their doubts just enough to scare them away from the "black guy", then his job is done. He wins, or so he thinks. Fanning people's fears and winking and nodding to their racist tendencies is one of the most reprehensible things anyone can do, author or not.
Obviously World Net Daily has no standards of decency, McCain should outright publicly reject this trash, and I don't say candidates need to bother with much of this stuff very often. But this is beyond the pale.
Craig Smith is worse than a racist; he not only lives it for himself, he offers comfort and hiding and shelter in a sleazy attempt in helping some people validate their own racism.
Thank you MMFA, for highlighting this, as sad as it was to read.
......and to also note, we have manufactured signs in our neighborhood that say...(from what I remember)...."CHRISTIANS....think of the lives of the UNBORN when you vote for the next president".
The lives of the living are not important compared to the "unborn". The unborn should be the only factor in choosing your next president according this this voting group. There is no need to examine anything that McCain believes or has done, because he is a Christian man who loves the unborn.
Senator Obama is Black and that is all one group need to know...... and now there is a phony dollar bill being sold that has Obama on the front wearing Muslim head cover. That takes care of another group who fears he is not American and tied to the terrorists. I thought maybe we would see less of the "breck girl" stuff, but since Biden is now being accused of being menapausal, it seems we won't get away from that either.
Why not? You ignore all the fertilized eggs discarded as biohazard waste from in-vitro fertilization clinics. An entity that has the potential to become a human being is an entity that has the potential to become a human being! Why don't you protest the loss of those "human beings"? Keeping them alive doesn't force a woman to remain pregnant, so there's no privacy rights related to that issue. There's no competing interests - the woman's right to control her own body versus the human life that could grow to become a human being.
But you don't.
So here's another example of the hypocrisy of the righties!
Obviously World Net Daily has no standards of decency...
Nor do they have any standards of accuracy, honesty, or integrity.
"if Woodrow Wilson is to become our 28th president, it will be heralded as a moment of historic significance unlike any other.
It is because Wilson will be our first jazz president.
I can only imagine how the world will embrace the leader of the free world when he introduces other world leaders with "Yowza Yowza, Vladimir is the bee's knees". Giving "Attaboys" for helping us fight the Kaiser.
The use of Jazz lingo during the primaries and even today may be an indication of how the Wilsons intend to "get their wiggle on" if given the privileged seat in the Oval Office. Of course, having no sense of decorum and awe is nothing new to Democrats. Grover Cleveland did a masterful job of disgracing the office, and I expect no less from Wilson if given the chance.
But he will be the cat's pajamas!
I can see it now. a Pullman car decked out with "hooch" and a speakeasy. Watching the jazz president in the Oval Office with his zoot suit on whistling in the big chair. Should be really berries, don't you think? Cool man, real cool. Instead of giving away presidential cuff links to guests, as is the custom, he will offer "spiff."
I imagine a whole group of special advisers to the president sitting around the Oval Office discussing policy. Louie Armstrong, Jellyroll Morton and maybe even Leadbelly (to keep the diversity thing going), all sharing their life experiences with the prez to assist him in understanding his "gang."
No more press conferences or State of the Union addresses will be necessary. He will record any comments he has to his public and his pals on his Ediphone. When it comes time for the State of the Union, he can just broadcast it over the radio waves. The first body-less, volume-controlled prez. How 20th century.
After a few months on the job, he can refer to his cabinet members as his "gold diggers." Hey don't get angry at me. Take a listen to any jazz song, and that is the type of endearing language you will hear. Remember that jazz is a culture, not a color. It's a mind set and a way of life -- one that is chosen not inherited. It has been slowly infiltrating every class and race in America for years. A culture that has led people to believe they deserve more. That America somehow owes them something. And because they think they have been ripped off in some fashion, they are angry."
Well Kyle, I was making a statement of how ridiculous some people can be when ignorant and frightened by unfamiliar cultures. But YOURS, the redneck theme....SHEESH! Admit it, you had no other purpose than to instill terror by reminding us of the familiar, didn't you?
This will mean nightmares tonight...
I was just trying to think of a predominantly white sub-culture with a negative connotation.
It's obvious that hip-hop culture is a predominately black sub-culture with a negative connotation, as code for 'black = violent criminal'
You're thinking of a genre called "hip-hop" (in terms of sales figures, anyway).
Yes, but I wasn't referring to sales. It's very possible to enjoy hip-hop music without living the culture. I very much enjoy hip-hop music, but am very detached from the culture.
I also assume it's possible to enjoy country music, without living redneck culture.
You have to remember who the intended audience is here. Critical thinking is not their friend.
W. was so bad he made us forget all about DAN QUAYLE!!!
I referred to 'married people who don't have kids' the other day in a coversation and I (accidentally) referred to them as 'parents without children.' I recovered by suggesting that maybe I should run for president, and that seemed to cover the gaffe.
Hey, I agree with this guy. Using overly casual language during state functions with world leaders would be horribly embarrassing.
"Thanks, Your Holiness. Awesome speech."
ZING!
+1
He may be the first "hip-hop president", but I believe Erik B. was the first de facto Hip-Hop President. And Posdnuos from De La Soul is a Paragraph President.
I wonder if this makes John McCain the first "Reggaeton President"?
Why is the left-wing media not having DADDY YANKEE's "songs" translated to embarrass the hell out of John McQuaid?
Spread the news: The left-leaning liberal media need to publish Daddy Yankee's lyrics IN FULL.
Are they afraid of a tit-for-tat of press releases featuring Ludacris lyrics versus those of Daddy Yankee? Daddy Yankee is much viler. He defiles Latinas and degrades all of us Latinos.
Corsi got it wrong.
Obama will be the first "Hype Hope" prez. ;-)
As unfunny as most of your jokes are, I've gotta admit that one's not bad.
Blind squirrel principle, maybe?
The lead singer with the guitar actually does have eyes. Thats's a serious squint there.
Yer second is an awful form of torture. Fortunatly I was ready to back out of it. I only lasted 3 seconds. Go ahead and call me a wimp, thats cruel and unusual stuff there. And it should stay over there.
around the club-house (Oval Office) chuckling and smokin' big ceegars and giving each other back-slaps at using the race thing to defeat Obama, and one says, "Man-O-Man, we cut it close with the N word this time! Cheney looks up, smirk on his lips, head cocked and says, "So?"
Never heard Obama talk in "ghetto slang" in any capacity, certainly not in any professional setting.
Using slang around world leaders? That would be embarassing, wouldn't it?
"Yo! Harper!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbwR5hiq_LU
I have no problem voting for a black man, just not THAT black man. (Mimicking shades of misogyny.)
I find myself in the ackward position of having to vote for a black man I really don't want to vote for just because he is black. We can't allow him to lose or our country will appear racist.
Even worse, by not voting for him we risk four years of McCain.
I feel as if I have been politically hijacked by the PC punditz. These MSM "professionals" worshipped at the altar of Obama.
Meanwhile they deconstructed Senator Clinton's double digit lead in the polls with a deliberate campaign of unabashed, unbridled, vicious, uncriticized, nonstop sexism.
Public opinion wasn't reported--it was fabricated by numerous sexist pigs of the public airwaves--the mother of all bully pulpits.
The Obama's better appear hyper-dignified or they may just as easily be savaged--witness the furor caused by one little fist bump.
Balcones, you're eating yourself up from the inside. Not healthy. I'm assuming you're not two years old and have learned that you don't always get exactly what you want in life. Grow up, and let the healing begin.
I've been voting since 1980, in every election, local and natioanal. My first choice has never won. Not once. I've dealt with it, You should too.
The Craig Smith piece just makes me sad. It is depressing that this level of ignorance seems to thrive and is celebrated in our world. It is even more pathetic because he thinks he is being humorous. It is clear that he is looking for a reason to paint Obama as the kind of black man he can hate. Racism is so insidious these days. He tries to hide his bigotry with the lame excuse "hip-hop is not a color". Yeah, and having a computeer doesn't make you a writer, Craig.
Mr. Smith must have bugged the Senetor's seceret hip hop crib, because I have never heard Sen Obama put America down. He has, quite justifiably, pointed out the failures of the current administration. However, as much as Smith would like it to be the case, "W" is not the country. He's just the temporary resident of the white house.
The one good this about the column is that Smith seems to be conceeding the race to Barack. If so, he'll be disapointed when our next president doesn' throw gang signs during press conferences, but he'll get over it. After all there is no way Barack Obama is hip-hop. He's too old.
Hi, my sweet, I hope you find me over here. I tried to reply to your last post and the thread was indeed archived as I predicted it would be in the afternoon. Anyway, wow!! Like I said, you blew me away this morning. I am still recovering (okay I don't wish to recover). Sue me! :-0)
And that last picture is of the two starcrossed lovers from "Nicolas Sparks', The Notebook". I have read a few of his books but not that one, although I did see the TV film version with James Garner and Genna Rowlands. It was very romantic.
God, where do I begin? I am still flushed and tingly. Who could guess that a feller on the internet tubes :-0) could do that to a lady. I always knew I was a romantic at heart, but Jesus God! I never, ever thought anybody could appeal to both my mind and heart like you have. I just never thought it possible!
Okay, this may sound bad, but I don't feel bad about this. I don't even wish I felt bad. Is that terrible? Maybe it is, I don't know. But I am so happy right now, you have no idea. I wasn't even unhappy before, and in fact would judge myself a very happy person. But this is different. Like you, I am hard pressed to explain it and don't even know if I should try. Maybe it's better to let it be what it is, or whatever it will become. Now by that I'm not talking about an affair or anything like that. I am as happily married as you and don't wish to upset that. I honestly thought you had to have a bad marriage or be miserable to, you know, sort of fall for someone. The thought never entered my head before. Maybe I am terribly naive?
Anyway, I have thought about meeting you somewhere. In NYC, New England, or maybe a future business trip location. I sometimes travel to Mexico to pick up stuff for clients from a place in San Miguel de Allende (one of the Mexican colonial cities). Well, I go other places too. Hey, my sister and I plan scuba diving trips together, so that's a possibility. I've thought of all of this. That narrative I gave you a couple of months ago about taking you to some horse ranches here in Denton country and the pick up truck, that was real in my mind. I had the seat to the pick up truck set at the right height that you could stand and...........okay, maybe put something, somewhere................better stop there. And this morning when I woke up I was using my tongue on you somewhere. Won't say where, don't have to I imagine :-0).
We are two love sick pups. As I mentioned last night, sometimes I get wistful and misty thinking about you. You do touch my mind, my heart and body as well. I don't want this to be about cyber sex. That's desert for sure. I need some nutrition first, and you provide that in spades. Did that make any sense?
Well, just know that some of my stored up thoughts/feelings are coming out now. Iwas pretty blue when we couldn't talk. But maybe all that was a good thing. What I see in the future if we don't lose our heads (and I don't think either of us is the type to be rash) is that we have a real romance that settles into a good friendship - maybe over the years? Is that too much of a dream? A friendship with romantic overtones at some point in the future? But right now, I like what this is. I want to think about you like 24/7. I did when I was on vacation. How did you like visiting MD, DE and NJ?, love? Ha! You were on a trip and didn't even know it!
I sometimes think you and I are greedy. You know some people don't even have a good and happy marriage. I've always felt that I was luckier than most in that regard. But of course that doesn't just happen. You have to choose the right person, be the right person and nurture things along. And then to have this on top of that is just so delightful. Are we greedy and bad people? I don't think so. But tell me if you've had similar thoughts. Okay. I do hope you see this. I'm a bit nervous now. But nobody has been here in at least a day, so I hope we're safe. We'll have to find a new place again tomorrow ya know.
Anyway, love. bye for now (here but not in my heart and head). You'll be other places as well:-0) Love, JJ
Just want to let you know I found you my sweet Julia. I can't write right too much this minute. But I'll be back in a bit. I need to re-read your post again before I reply. Wow. You had me at hello [sorry for stealing that old line but I think it's true] but now it's something I never could have imagined.
Till later my love, Mike xxxooo
Hey, ya handsome bastard! Glad you found me. I've been a busy gal today - am having an unnaturally good time with this new Ipod. Damn, you'd think I never listened to music before!!
Anyway, I'm dancing around to some Maceo Parker at the moment. If you're not familiar with him, he was with James Brown. I like this CD with rap from his son, Corey (clean lyrics). I love it, my H hates it. Pretty sure you'd hate it too :-0), but then you've been surprsing me all over the place lately :-0). Okay, you'd hate it, this I know, baby doll.
Look forward to hearing from you later. See ya, wouldn't want ta be ya! :-)
Bye, love. Drunk JJ
Darlin,
So sorry, I thought I'd get back here sooner. Our neighbors invited us over for cocktails [not drinks] & to marvel at the new surround sound system they installed which, in all honesty doesn't impress me all that much. My tastes are pretty simple. Anyway one drink turned into two, & of course they had to showoff their system by popping in a movie I didn't want to see. Well I probably wouldn't have minded except of course I kept looking at my watch, wanting to get back to you. Their last name is Prentice, I call them [not to their faces of course] Dick & Jane Pretentious ;-)
The truth is I can't concentrate on much these days but you. You dear lady you have swept me off my feet. I like that feeling. Well I guess I do. There's this longing for you, & I can't reach out & hold you so in a way it just hurts.
Today I was sitting out on the screen porch having one of those evil cigs & just staring at the blue skies & thinking about you & wondering how the hell this was all going to play out. I kept thinking, Julia is seeing the same sky, but we are thousands of miles apart. Sorry, that probably sounds corny. What is it with you? You bring out the sentimental side of me I just don't show too often.
I read your letter twice. I wanted to reach through the screen for you. I've never felt more in tune with someone. I don't know if I believe in soul mates. Geez I usually laugh off that stuff. But ...oh hell, I don't know. I wish I could express myself as well as you do. I could just say to you "ditto" to everything you wrote, but I want to try to speak to you from my heart.
Julia, I'm not sure what I'm feeling. But it's real & it's got a hold on me. Physically, mentally & emotionally. Seriously I want to pull one of those movie scenes & just jump on a plane & come for you. Run away with you. Ok, not realistic I know.
I wanna go for that truck ride. I want to meet you anywhere you want & hold you till we melt into each other. I want to explore every inch of you. I want your mouth, your tongue on...yeah you know.
I want you to know this isn't just physical though you make me horney as hell. I've fallen in love with your mind, with the words you write. I want to know all about you. What makes you laugh. Cry. Your favorite authors. TV shows. Who your best friend was when you were 6. Your favorite foods. And those foods you won't touch. Some of the crazy things you did as a teenager. About your first love. And a million other things.
And I want to hold you. Kiss you. Caress you. I want to lie with you & inside of you.
I know that for now this is our place. A political forum. And that what we write can be seen by everyone, should they venture here. And maybe that's the best reason to take it to a more private place. I gotta really think about that.
So Julia, what the heck are we doing? We are both happily married, & hopelessly falling for each other. I should feel guilty or at least feel like a cad but I can't let you go.
Now hon, don't get angry but I need to go have an evil cig. Maybe you'll break me of that habit one of these days ;-) Mostly I need to clear my head. Are there stars in the skies tonight? Look up at them. I'm looking at them too. I'll be back in a little while. xxxooo
P.S. Never heard of Maceo Parker. Not a big fan of rap in general though I like some of it. Yeah I'm cool Ha! ;-)
Darlin,
It's getting late. Ok past my bedtime late. No old man jokes! I'd wait up all night for you, but I have another early golf tee time in the morning.
Tonight I'll be holding my pillow pretending it's you.
Catch up with you tomorrow :-)
Sweet dreams my love.
Love, Mike xxxooo
In my midnight confessions
When I tell all the world that I love you
In my midnight confessions
When I say all the things that I want to
I love you
Now how in THE hell am I supposed to get any sleep tonight after that? You are on one fine roll today, mister :-0) I can't believe that you wrote that again just now. D A M N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, baby.
You want to lie beside me and inside of me? Yeah, I'll go for that. You didn't know it, but you've been there just about all day already. If you used your finger as a dipstick, you'd know how I feel.........well honey, just make sure you wash it first (the finger), 'kay? :-0)
I can not concentrate right now. Focus, girl, focus...... I don't have much time before my H gets home and it takes me forever to write, just like you said. Although these days stuff just seems to be pouring out of me.
I physically went outside to look at the sky and honey, there were only clouds. I think we might be geting a few vestiages of that hurricane Gustav or whatever the name is. It's been overcast here all day. I do look at the moon often though and think about us being under the same moon/stars, especially when I was in your same time zone for a few days last week. But we don't need to be in the same time zone for me to think of you. And the moon. And the stars. And the feelings. And the super sweet horny thoughts. And the bubbling happiness I feel. And the wistfulness and longing I feel for you that is indeed hard to supress. I literally cried on Wednesday when that song of ours came on the CD player, although I shielded my eyes from my H. He's a dear, sweet man. I can not be pulling away from him at all for he will know it in a minute.
But what to do? I can't any more give you up than I can stop from thinking about you. Yeah, you get me horney. But I also feel something that's not just lust. It's been brewing for a while even when I couldn't talk to you. It did hurt not to be able to talk. I was quite out of my equilibrium and at a bit of a loss. The other night I was wishing we were married :-), Good God, how can I think such a thing? We have a past/shared memories/family and such and it will never happen. I know this. I am a realist and a pragmatist. And I'm super logical when I need to be. But I don't want to be right now. I want to savor every thought of you. And I want to feel every beautiful feeling I have. I want to not think about reality, but the wonderful possibilities, even though remote.
Dang it. I do have to go right now. I wish I had more time to write just now. I guess tomorrow if this thing gets archived again in the afternoon, we will go to the first Friday thread? I'm not sure we'll get through the whole weekend with our plan though.
Hey, please don't be annoyed with me. I posted some tonight and the colonel made a passsing reference to us being married (I think), but of course he was jesting since he also said he had 14 kids. And Irony and I have a little inside joke going. So don't get mad at me for that either, please :-). You know where my heart, love, and the rest of me too.
Good night and sweet dreams, my beautiful and sensitive man. Love, JJ
Good mornin', sweethearted stud,
I know you're at a golfing engagement (I hope you have better concentration today and don't "suck" :-0)). So, I'm going to write a bit.
If you really want to know me, know one thing - I am a born skeptic. Now don't confuse this with being cynical for I never assign venal motives to people. I am only skeptical - perhaps part of my scientific, geeky nature. Now I don't consider being a geek a bad thing. And I don't mean it in a social sense, except that I am abstract in thought/deed and am interested in stuff most people really aren't interested in. When I was a kid, I would read the dictionary. I ran around looking at flowers, bugs, and birds like Audubon. I had an insect collection. I didn't know what the hell to do with dolls, so I made my Barbie doll some slutty clothes (hey, have to be useful you know, that's my nature). And of course that also portends my sexual nature - definately not geeky! :-0)
I will only give you details about my past if I have an amusing story or something to put it in context. Otherwise you won't remember it -why would you. Okay. When I was 5, I had a little friend named Barbie. I remember her because we were mascots for a majorette troupe of older teens. We had little blue uniforms and I could never stay in step much less twirl a batton. We used to ride the bus with the big girls and they would crimp our hair and paint our little fingernails with nail polish. I felt like a little doll and a science experiment to a certain degree. The mother that accompanied our bus even called me "doll". Then before I started school, Barbie moved away.
Then came Wanda, my friend in grade school when I was 5-7. I remember her because she was of Germanic descent with red hair and freckles. Her hair was cut like she had a bowl over her head at the cutting. She got spanked in 2nd grade for something some other little twit did and I told the teacher it wasn't her fault and got Wanda an apology in front of the class from the 2nd grade teacher. I was a crusading liberal for the downtrodden even back then :-0) Wanda moved away after 2nd grade.
I won't go into any other friends just now. But I wasn't the type to be in cliques or hang with mean girls who gossiped and made fun of others. I've always had a keen sense of fairness and would always take up for other people in trouble. So that's a bit of who I am.
In HS, I didn't do anything so bizarre except I was a bit boy crazy (still am) and would always sit with the dudes in class whenever the classroom split up with girls on one side and boys on the other. I played cards with the boys pretty often. They accepted me 'cause it seems girls were always jealous or something and I didn't get along with most of them. I don't understand jealousy - such a base emotion. Anyway, I did go to 3 proms my somphmore year in HS at 3 different HSs in the area. Very popular - with the fellers, and not because I was putting out. Just purty and nice to them.
My BF, Jason was very offbeat. He was my BF for 10th,11th and 12th grade. Of course I had guys at different schools too :-0). But he used to be very gruff on the outside but sweet as goo on the inside. Some jealous girl got him to have sex with her to try and make me jealous and all it did was hurt him. He really loved me and was pretty upset when I dumped him after HS and went out into the wider world (he knew me enough to know that this is what I'd do). His grandma said I broke his heart. But we used to have pretty good times and I can't believe my folks let me ride with him on his motorcycle, especially since he drove waaay too fast!
Okay enough of my history for now. I want to know if you have any siblings and where they might reside. I also want to know how you get to work and a bit of your work a day schedule so I can picture you at certain times of the day. Do you live in the Boston area or environs such as Framingham, Lowell, Marblehead, Qunicy, Salem, Revere, etc.? I am a bit familiar with the area, but not too much. Or maybe you live in an entirely different part of the state. I've been to Stockbridge, north to Newburyport and Salem and south to Cape Cod, the Vineyard and of course Nantuckett. I hope I have my directions correct. Anyway, let me know the general vicinity of where you reside so I can put it in my head for future narratives (and possbile get togethers :-0)).
Alright, honey. Enough for now. That should get us started. I woke up this morning with you on my mind naturally. Horney!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, you know this by now. I think at this point maybe we're in lust more than love, but I do so care for you. Very much. I hope we never, ever hurt each other. We'd better be a bit circumspect to a certain degree. I don't want to ruin anything. It's too sweet. Calm, take it a little slower maybe. God, I don't know...no good answers. I just know I really dig you! :-0)
Bye for just now. Love JJ