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Limbaugh continues to repeat falsehood that Obama favors "infanticide"

September 04, 2008 5:59 pm ET

On his radio show, Rush Limbaugh continued to repeat the falsehood that Sen. Barack Obama favors "infanticide," saying that Obama "believes and favors infanticide. Not just abortion, but infanticide." He added: "This guy approves of abortion in the fourth trimester."

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On the September 3 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh falsely claimed that Sen. Barack Obama "believes and favors infanticide. Not just abortion, but infanticide." He continued: "This guy approves of abortion in the fourth trimester." As Media Matters for America has documented, Limbaugh has repeatedly distorted Obama's position on the so-called "born alive" bills during his time as an Illinois state senator by declaring that Obama's opposition to the bills amounted to support for infanticide. In fact, Obama and other opponents said the bills posed a threat to abortion rights and were unnecessary because, they said, Illinois law already prohibited the conduct that these bills purported to address.

Since August 19, Limbaugh has repeatedly called Obama a supporter of "infanticide":

  • On the August 19 broadcast of his show, Limbaugh said Obama "believes in infanticide."
  • On his August 20 program, Limbaugh claimed that "Obama lobbied for infanticide." He later said, "You know, abortion's one thing; infanticide is quite another, and it is now widely known that Obama was all for infanticide. It's the only way you can put it."
  • Discussing the controversy over the number of houses Sen. John McCain owns, Limbaugh said on his August 21 show: "Obama wants to talk about numbers and houses? Talk about how many babies have died because of Obama's support for infanticide."
  • On August 22, Limbaugh said Obama "really admires" China's one-child policy. He went on to say: "[M]ost people want a son. And if they are pregnant with a daughter, what do they do? They abort, and they keep aborting until they get a son. Now that's a policy Obama can support. That's a policy Obama likes. He's for infanticide. It is not an overstatement to say so."
  • On his August 25 show, Limbaugh said Obama is "an infanticide nominee," and claimed Obama is "for infanticide."
  • On his August 26 program, Limbaugh said of the Democratic Party: "So, here's a party trying to present itself as a newly-found faith party -- that they understand people's values -- and their nominee believes in infanticide."
  • On August 28, Limbaugh said of Obama: "What has complicated his mental journey are his political ambitions. His desire to hold high public office has required this confused man to lie about his sometimes bizarre judgments such as supporting infanticide."
  • On his September 2 program, Limbaugh said Obama "supports infanticide" and "supports the killing of babies born alive as the result of botched abortions."

From the September 3 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: What is it with liberals and children? We hear from liberals all the time that we must do this and we must do that for the children, do we not? Yet, they've nominated a guy who believes and favors infanticide. Not just abortion, but infanticide. This guy approves of abortion in the fourth trimester. The drive-by media favors waiting 17 years to destroy pregnant teenagers. Seventeen years is how old Sarah Palin's daughter is. And I guess if you're 17 and you're the daughter of a woman who doesn't fit to what the liberal mold is, then you can destroy that child, too.

What is it? What is it with this "liberals and children -- this is for the children" business? Liberals are child abusers -- partial birth abortion, infanticide, now doing their best to deliver enough deliberate and calculated stress to cause a miscarriage. Has anybody been thinking about that on this 17-year-old little girl? For the children? What part did I miss, ladies and gentlemen?

Oh, and how about this? How about that report we had a couple weeks ago -- 100 university presidents want to lower the drinking age. They say they're for the children. They say they're for this and that. You know they're passing out condoms. They want to pass out condoms in the schools. They want to pass out birth control pills in the schools. The only thing they don't want to pass around is a pack of cigarettes for afterwards.

Dirty little secret: The Democrats have no Sarah Palin on their side, even liberal Democrat men are not her equal. As I say, Barack Obama is half the man Sarah Palin is.

From the September 2 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: But this is not a media anal exam; this is a media uterus exam -- a uterus exam that is taking place here by the drive-by media shamelessly. I know people know this getting into the game. This is what it's about. You don't get in it if you don't expect this to happen, but I hope they keep this up because it's going to backfire on them in a major way.

Stop and think of this. What are we really talking about? What are the drive-bys talking about? We're talking about a woman, Sarah Palin, who gave birth to a Down syndrome child and now they're suggesting that she shouldn't have done that -- and I've got the audio coming up -- and that she shouldn't have flown while she was pregnant with the Down syndrome child. She was being totally irresponsible here.

And on the other side, we have Barack Obama who supports infanticide, who supports the killing of babies born alive as the result of botched abortions, and guess where the drive-bys find the controversy.

From the August 28 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Barack Obama, giving him the benefit of the doubt, is confused. He's written two autobiographies by age 47, having not done diddlysquat -- except learn how to be a thug in Chicago. He's written two autobiographies in an attempt to work through his circumstances and his judgments.

What has complicated his mental journey are his political ambitions. His desire to hold high public office has required this confused man to lie about his sometimes bizarre judgments such as supporting infanticide; to lie about his associations with well-known anti-Americans.

From the August 26 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: So, here's a party trying to present itself as a newly-found faith party -- that they understand people's values -- and their nominee believes in infanticide, and their speaker of the House has restated Catholic Church policy.

From the August 25 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Now, also, Biden is 100 percent pro-choice. There is no -- I mean, you've got an infanticide nominee. You've got a guy that's for infanticide, and you've got Biden who has a 100-percent approval rating from Planned Parenthood, from NARAL, the National Abortion Rights Action League.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Anyway, this -- this is not -- sorry to stutter here, folks. I just -- really, I sit here in stunned bewilderment and disbelief over what I consider to be not just stupidity and silliness, but arrogance and hubris, and the ignorance that these people have over how this kind of comment is going to come back and bite her [House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-CA)] presidential nominee. I guess she thinks that she has to provide some sort of Democrat [sic] Party interpretation of Catholicism that permits Obama to get away with infanticide beliefs.

From the August 22 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: One other thing about China -- and this is I'm sure something else Obama really admires: the one-child policy. Chinese couples are allowed one child because they can't feed all of their people. And most people want a son. And if they are pregnant with a daughter, what do they do? They abort, and they keep aborting until they get a son. Now that's a policy Obama can support. That's a policy Obama likes. He's for infanticide. It is not an overstatement to say so.

From the August 21 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Hi, welcome back. Hey, here's another thing that we could do here, folks. Obama wants to talk about numbers and houses? Talk about how many babies have died because of Obama's support for infanticide. They're trying to do anything they can to get away from that, and they're not going to be able to. This is something -- you know, the last thing -- there's a bunch of things that have centered and appeared now in this campaign that the Democrats had no desire to show up, and I tell you, they don't want the abortion debate. They don't want it back. And especially with the candidate they've got.

From the August 20 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Obama has no clue what he's up against. Barack Obama's closest associates hate America, folks: Bill Ayers and [Rev.] Jeremiah Wright. I mean, stop and think of this. To top it all off, Obama lobbied for infanticide and doesn't have the guts to admit when he's wrong.

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LIMBAUGH: By the way, you Democrats and drive-byers, you want to know why he's plummeting in the polls, you just look at this answer right here. You know, abortion's one thing; infanticide is quite another, and it is now widely known that Obama was all for infanticide. It's the only way you can put it.

From the August 19 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: They've got pro-choice in Obama. They've got more than pro-choice. They've got somebody who believes in infanticide running atop of their ticket. They couldn't be happier.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 04, 2008 6:07 pm ET)
         
      It is so unfortunate that this guy represents the 20 million americans that listen to him telling lies. For once i'd like to see a lie turn into a very painful experience for the perpretator. but then again, he has oxycontin, most likely in industrial quantities.
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      • Author by neon desert (September 04, 2008 6:33 pm ET)
           

        Wolf, are you NOT paying attention?

        limpaugh: "Liberals are child abusers -- partial birth abortion, infanticide, now doing their best to deliver enough deliberate and calculated stress to cause a miscarriage."

        Now who do you think is doing those calculations?  That's right, I'm working on the stress calculations right now, and throwing around numbers like 20 million and stuff is really confusing me.  And it's not exactly allowing me to do my best, do you think?

        Now, please.  The sooner you liberals let me crunch these numbers, the sooner we can start the stress procedure.

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        • Author by vysotsky (September 04, 2008 7:03 pm ET)
             
          Attention Rush Limbaugh: DJasper and I were joking.

          I recognize that Limbaugh is half-kidding about this liberal conspiracy to psychologically induce a miscarriage, but in doing so he really is exposing the fault line in his position on abortion.

          Even the most strident anti-abortion activists tend to argue that abortion should be criminalized as murder, but
          women who seek abortions should not be punished: doctors who perform abortions and the liberals who support their right to do so, on the other hand, are the murderers and accessories to murder. Meanwhile, if Bristol miscarries, Limbaugh half-jokingly argues that it will be the fault of liberals: not a horrible but foreseeable potential outcome of her having become pregnant.

          The unspoken assumption that makes sense of these otherwise paradoxical positions

          is that women have no agency whatsoever upon becoming pregnant. If abortions are illegal and they seek an abortion, the woman is not responsible. If she has a miscarriage, it's not a personal tragedy, but instead a crime committed by someone else.

          Limbaugh's position on abortion has far less than an ethical commitment to the unconditional protection of human life than it does the subordination of adult women's rights to the lives of the children they bear. Limbaugh and his ilk claim to stand for the rights and freedoms of the individual above all else -- except in the case of a woman at the moment she conceives, at which point her womb practically becomes state housing.
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          • Author by vysotsky (September 04, 2008 7:03 pm ET)
               
            Woops. Sorry about that open hyperlink.
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            • Author by neon desert (September 04, 2008 7:24 pm ET)
                 

              No problem.  I managed to work through it.

              But I do need to know, before I release my final numbers: Will this indict me?  After all, I didn't really "make the bomb", merely provided the material for it, so to speak.  Is there a legal precedent?  Nuremberg?

              I will await legal advisement before publishing the stress calculations.  Sorry, fellow libs.  Our eeville plot may be delayed for some time.

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              • Author by vysotsky (September 04, 2008 7:37 pm ET)
                   
                Well, I think you could no more be indicted for inducing enough psychological stress to cause Bristol's miscarriage than Nurse Ratched could be indicted for inducing enough psychological stress to cause Billy Bibbit's suicide.

                Besides, I hope you're including in your fatal formula every minute of air time that Limbaugh devotes to Bristol Palin. Certainly that must cause a little more stress than an anonymous post on a website. And how much more stress do you think would be caused by your mom running for Vice President when she's under investigation for abuse of power?
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                • Author by carlileb5935 (September 04, 2008 8:39 pm ET)
                     

                  The Fourth trimester!!   The Fourth trimester !

                  That must have been the last term he spent in college.

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                  • Author by snoopy (September 04, 2008 9:10 pm ET)
                       
                    When it comes to limpballs, I'm all for fourth trimester abortions. I'm sure the NRA will fully vet my abortion instruments.
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                    • Author by oscar the grouch (September 04, 2008 9:16 pm ET)
                         
                      Snoop, you're advocating murder? That's so unlike the compassionate you.
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                      • Author by Graydogs (September 04, 2008 9:23 pm ET)
                           
                        No such thing as 4th trimester...so no murder can take place in the 4th trimester. Did you miss the earlier posts?
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                      • Author by snoopy (September 04, 2008 9:31 pm ET)
                           

                        But Oscar, abortion isn't murder, it's abortion! ;)

                        But I'm hurt you'd possibly consider me in the same league as those guys who tried to assassinate Obama last week. :(

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                        • Author by oscar the grouch (September 04, 2008 9:49 pm ET)
                             
                          I guess I was a little misled by your reference to the 4th trimester and the NRA.
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                          • Author by oscar the grouch (September 04, 2008 9:50 pm ET)
                               
                            Oh, and Graydog, get a sense of humor (they are 12 for a $1 at Walmart this week, made in China)
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                          • Author by snoopy (September 04, 2008 11:33 pm ET)
                               

                            Oscar, didn't you know? The NRA has diversified their portfolio. They now have an outstanding line of 4th trimester abortion equipment to compliment their current inventory of hunting and safety weapons and equipment.

                            Take for instance this baby, it's called the aborto 4000, nicknamed the crusher:

                            Crusher Unmanned Combat Vehicle

                            This baby weighs 14,000 pounds fully fueled and can carry a payload of 3000 pounds. This lil' workhorse can roll over the smallest of fetii and with the carrying capacity of 3 doctors and 14 nurses + wash away hose equipment you can be comfortable knowing that no fetii will escape unnoticed.

                            Next up is the M-107, aptly nicknamed the 2,000 meter fetii keeler.

                            M-107 Sniper Rifle

                            This two man team abortion tool uses a hot 50 caliber spent nuclear tipped round. When your doctor/nurse team equips this with night optics you can garantee they will not only cover any abortion in their hospital, they can provide home delivery services without ever leaving the clinic!

                            But, you ask, what do you do if you live in a state that only allows 1 abortion clinic? Well my friend, the Paladin is the abortion tool for you!

                            Army Paldins

                            "This baby can be on the move, get a call to abort and be ready to respond in a few minutes", explained Doc Holliday. It carries enough ammo to do 32 conventional abortions, two laser guided abortions and enough propellant to keep Bristol from becoming pregnant in Alaska.

                            Now if you live in a small town, you don't necessarily want fancy. You want something simple that can be easily serviced yet provide the high quality abortion you feel your patients are entitled to. For you we offer the .44 magnum, affectionately named the "dirty harry":

                            dirty harry

                            An abortion provider can't help but get up close and personal with this baby! At 6 abortions per load it requires one operator to provide the experience of a lifetime. A bit of a kick, but you can pretty much garantee that a clean hit won't require a follow up shot!

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                            • Author by neon desert (September 05, 2008 1:02 am ET)
                                 

                              I was definitely looking for something "portable".  See, often we here at St. Coulter end up chasing fetuses around the delivery room, and can't deal with the bulk and unwieldy nature of traditional abortion equipment.

                              I'm sort of leaning toward your Dirty Harry model.  The only problem is that sometimes in all the excitement of a multiple abortion, I lose track, thinking "did I abort 5 babies, or 6?"  I need that fetus' head to come clean off, and I can't work with confidence if I'm asking myself "Do I feel lucky?".

                              Do you offer one with a built-in counter?  That would make my day!

                               

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                            • Author by oscar the grouch (September 05, 2008 9:16 am ET)
                                 

                              As Graydog pointed out above, there is no "fourth trimester", so it can't be abortion, so it would be the murder of a living being, right?  A little over the top on this one, oh Great Beagle. Or we could include those other weapons of destruction (approved by AAA and ABA), vehicles propelled down our roads and byways by impaired or inattentive operators.

                              Ah, well, we have done little to change the situation, but we have added fuel to the fact(?) that RashL is even more over the top than items in our discusssion.

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                      • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 05, 2008 2:29 pm ET)
                           
                        I can't hardly blame him.  I have to admit that if I had a DEATH NOTE, 'Rush Limbaugh' would probably be the first name I'd write in it.
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                    • Author by vysotsky (September 05, 2008 12:54 am ET)
                         

                      Remember when Dennis Miller wasn't shilling for Fox News? He once offered this in response to a clinic bombing:

                      "The right-to-life movement killed a doctor. Let me use their own terminology against them: They 'aborted a child in the 200th trimester'. People in the right-to-life movement should get a life before they tell other people what to do theirs."--Dennis Miller

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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 04, 2008 10:10 pm ET)
             
          Youi want to borrow my slide rule ? I have a ll3 scale.
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      • Author by Max Dharma (September 04, 2008 6:54 pm ET)
           

        Let me put it in terms you MMFA goldfish can understand. Obama favors allowing a baby to die over giving it emergency aid to save its life as the result of a botched abortion. There is no spin to get him (or you) out of this mess.

        You say potato, I say infanticide.

        It’s so wonderful when our #2 on the ticket trumps your #1

        Palin > Obama
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        • Author by neon desert (September 04, 2008 7:08 pm ET)
             

          Oh, I get it now...

          I WAS thinking your handle "Max Dharma" was picked as kind of a badge, an emblem of higher learning and clear universal perspective.  NOW I recognize that it's irony.

          Good one!

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          • Author by mary59 (September 04, 2008 7:23 pm ET)
               
            He is certainly unaware that any baby, whether born from abortion of not, is protected by Illinois law and always has been.
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            • Author by neon desert (September 04, 2008 7:30 pm ET)
                 

              Oh, Mary...Tell me you're not implying that "Max Dharma" comes not from irony, but from ignorance?

              Surely with the education system we have and the glut of available information resources, there is no one in America that could fall into that trap.

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              • Author by mary59 (September 04, 2008 7:39 pm ET)
                   
                Yes, Neon of the Desert, he comes fresh from a wholesome school called Newsmax, where he finds out all kinds of stuff and creates much irony for the reality based community.
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              • Author by annes10 (September 04, 2008 9:30 pm ET)
                   
                Glad to have you back, oh most noble of gases...
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        • Author by vysotsky (September 04, 2008 7:22 pm ET)
             
          "Obama favors allowing a baby to die over giving it emergency aid to save its life as the result of a botched abortion."

          You're so close to being accurate, Max, but you're leaving one little tiny detail out: the baby in question isn't a baby, but a fetus in the process of being aborted legally. Obama's position is if a woman has the legal right to seek an abortion, she has the legal right to see that the procedure is carried out successfully and doesn't result in the exact opposite outcome. Why does it make any sense to you to give emergency aid to save a fetus once a decision has been made to abort that fetus legally?
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          • Author by carlileb5935 (September 04, 2008 8:42 pm ET)
               
            Oh, I get it. Obama's against a 'salvation birth.'  (shouldn't give these people any new  ideas....)
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        • Author by paleocon (September 04, 2008 7:23 pm ET)
             
          as far as i'm concerned a botched abortion should be finished up, but it should be written into law that it should be done 'by the mother with a hammer'  ... who want homicidal women to be mothers anyway?  they will just finish the job with a car in a river three or four years later.
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          • Author by snoopy (September 04, 2008 9:19 pm ET)
               
            You must be refering to Susan Smith, another icon of right wing christian values, who drove her car with her two sons into the river, killing them, and then went on national TV asking for God's prayers and any help to find the black man she claimed carjacked the car with her two children inside. She and Palin have lots in common.
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            • Author by jawill11 (September 04, 2008 9:33 pm ET)
                 

              By next week, the right will be saying that it was Obama who kidnapped Smith's kids. 

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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 04, 2008 11:54 pm ET)
               
            For the record, Paleocon, you're in favor of killing babies with hammers?
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            • Author by paleocon (September 05, 2008 6:03 pm ET)
                 
              remember- they are not babies, they are 'viable fetuses'! sure use a hammer, but only if the egg donor does it herself.  why does it matter, dead is dead, right? not only that, after we drain them of stem cell juice we should turn them over to taco bell for their new line of fetus fajitas... are we gonna get serious about recycling or not???  
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        • Author by mrhebert74 (September 04, 2008 7:28 pm ET)
             

          Let me put it in terms YOU can understand, Max. Obama voted against the bills because Illinois state law ALREADY prohibited the same practice those bills sought to prohibit; NOT because he favored infanticide.

          If that's confusing, read it again, paying careful attention to the words I put in all-capitals.

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          • Author by carlileb5935 (September 04, 2008 8:45 pm ET)
               

            brain....don't....work....me....don't.....

            hear....you....you...want....babies....

            killed....you.....socialist....

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        • Author by snoopy (September 04, 2008 9:14 pm ET)
             
          Awww, Agent 66 thinks he's smart! Your #2 couldn't pose her way through a debate though. I do rather enjoy watching people like you flail like whales caught on a sandbar. In fact, it's gonna be rather funny to watch the realization set in your eyes when you learn that Gidget and Geezer completed the final implosion and 40 year hiatus of what's left of the reich wing GOP party.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (September 04, 2008 6:08 pm ET)
         
      So now Limbaugh separates abortion and infanticide?
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      • Author by wzwriter (September 04, 2008 6:11 pm ET)
           

        So now Limbaugh separates abortion and infanticide?

        As he should.  Infants are born, and can't be aborted.  Fetuses can be aborted, but they aren't infants.

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        • Author by paleocon (September 04, 2008 7:05 pm ET)
             

          but a 'viable fetus' (lawyers speak for 'infant') can be born and aborted... like ecclesiastes  says, 'a time to be born, a time to die...'  which could be the same time in obamaland. 

          btw, wz, are you a limbaugh look-alike named jeff christie with a guilty conscience, or are you a male prostitute from the 70's with a score to settle? 

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          • Author by worrierking (September 04, 2008 7:15 pm ET)
               
            Jeff Christie is just shorthand for scum sucking, draft dodging, cowardly pill popper, Rush Limbaugh.

            It's a whole lot easier to say.
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    • Author by wzwriter (September 04, 2008 6:09 pm ET)
         
      And we're STILL waiting for Jeff Christie to come clean about the time he was arrested with that male prostitute in Pittsburgh back in the '70s.....
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      • Author by Cheney2012 (September 04, 2008 8:51 pm ET)
           
        And we're still waiting for YOU or anyone else to provide some PROOF.  Like a police report.  A news article.  Oh, wait..you don't have any
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        • Author by eb (September 04, 2008 9:10 pm ET)
             

          I am still waiting for the photo of Obama, in his white shirt and tie, covered in the blood of baby infants.

          What is it with conservatives and their obsession with the fetus.  They could care less about the countless future generations threatened by the possibility of global warming but certainly the status of the fetus is all that matters...

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    • Author by RABBITLUVR (September 04, 2008 6:13 pm ET)
         

      Plummeting in the polls? Last time I checked, Obama hit 50% while McCain dropped one point down to 42%. MN and IA are solidly in Obama's column, Ohio is turning around for Obama, and even ND is in play.

      Rush is delusional as always.

       

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    • Author by tommy (September 04, 2008 6:17 pm ET)
         

      Yes, Obama wants babies murdered. 

      Now that the evangelical base of the Republican party has been put back in the front row center of their focus, with their newly discovered Sarah Palin, they see new hope, when they thought a McCain victory would only leave them in the bleachers. 

      So it will be an all out assault kitchen-sink strategy aimed squarely at Obama, for another politician with God in her hip pocket is ascending to the heights of power, and the Limbaughs of the world are armed and ready.

      Obama, prepare yourself. 

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      • Author by ukobserver (September 04, 2008 6:31 pm ET)
           
        Tommy l heartly agree. The last 24 hours have shown that the religious right have found a new focus in Palin and have gone back tpo what they do best, smear and innuendo. This is no surprise since McCain has sold what little left of his soul to try to win the election by hiring the man in charge of smearing him in South Carolina eight years ago.
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      • Author by Graydogs (September 04, 2008 7:37 pm ET)
           

        The National Enquirer released a teaser that next week they will reveal the news that Palin had an affair with her husband's business partner. McCain's camp has threatened to file a law suit and is calling it a vicious lie.....of course the right wing media recently praised the National Enquirer for knowing about Senator Edward's affair before the MSM, and wondered why the media didn't go after the story sooner.

        ( Bostonherald.com 9-4-08 and CBS news 9-3-08)
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    • Author by RobertSeattle (September 04, 2008 6:33 pm ET)
         

      Repubican Calculus: If you repeat a lie an infinte # of times it becomes truthy.Using Limbaugh logic, Palin committed attempt infanticide by not properly taking care of herself after her water leaked.

       

       

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      • Author by vysotsky (September 04, 2008 7:28 pm ET)
           
        Megadittos.

        This cannot be stressed enough. If a fetus, no matter its stage of development, is entitled to the rights and protections of a legal person, then the law can consider any injury to that person the criminal responsibility of the pregnant mother. Limbaugh's subordination of women's rights to fetal rights opens the door to the prosecution and punishment of women for late miscarriages and birth defects. This isn't a slippery slope, it's a logical consequence.
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    • Author by onionhead (September 04, 2008 6:47 pm ET)
         

      Possible McCain campaign ad:

      "If elected, Obama will murder Palin's unborn grandchild.  Barack Obama: He enjoys killing babies." "I'm John McCain, and I approve this message."   

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    • Author by shaggles (September 04, 2008 7:13 pm ET)
         
      Fortunately no sane person takes Limpy seariously.
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    • Author by edenscape246494 (September 04, 2008 7:18 pm ET)
         
      Unfortunately we sane are in the minority
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    • Author by mary59 (September 04, 2008 7:21 pm ET)
         
      Neo-cons approve of abortion if it occurs amidst Iraqi women that get accidentally mowed down by bullets or bombs from "operation Iraqi freedom."

      That's just "collateral damage."
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      • Author by annes10 (September 04, 2008 9:41 pm ET)
           

        Speaking of those pesky and expensive wars, Mary, did you notice how the US invaded Pakistan while our attention was diverted by the beauteous but poison-tongued Mrs. Palin?

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        • Author by oscar the grouch (September 04, 2008 9:53 pm ET)
             

          Taking a lead from BHO supporters some time back, this would hardly be classified as an Invasion of Pakistan.

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        • Author by mary59 (September 04, 2008 11:06 pm ET)
             
          The idea that Palin is good looking is a stretch, IMO.  But she does suck all the air out of the press so they forget to report the news.  Annes, have you read "Three Cups of Tea?"  Greg Mortenson builds schools in Pakistan instead of bombing the place...the subtitle is fighting terrorism one school at  a time.
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 04, 2008 11:59 pm ET)
               
            Hi Mary, I haven't said it too much, trying not to be sexist or coming off as bagging on Palin because she's over 40. It's not that, she's physically decent looking, but she's just horribly unattractive.
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            • Author by mary59 (September 05, 2008 12:31 am ET)
                 
              She kind of reminds me of this looney guy around here who tries to shout at the local peace vigil group through a megaphone; same rather crazed look in their eyes.  I find that very unattractive.
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            • Author by princeofwheels (September 05, 2008 1:37 am ET)
                 

              But Colonel, Princess Palin has really given a pick-me-up to the Reepublican Party..she is the Viagra of the Cons.

              But you physical description is correct...just like her speech. Sounds good on paper but nothing there.

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          • Author by annes10 (September 05, 2008 12:06 am ET)
               
            No, Mary, I haven't but thanks for the tip. I've just ordered it.
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    • Author by noracook4983 (September 04, 2008 11:34 pm ET)
         

      We have to remind ourselves:  Rush is not a journalist.  He is an entertainer.  I don't believe HE believes some of the lies he tells.  He is paid--and well paid--to stir up controversy and get reactions from intelligent liberals like us.  

       Ignore Rush.  It's the only way.  WVaMomma

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    • Author by catfish1968 (September 05, 2008 2:18 am ET)
         
      Today, I was listening to Limbaugh and he said that the Tampa Bay Devil Rays (or Rays) dropped the word "devil" because of the "politically correct crowd." Now, I don't speak for all of the PC people, but I really didn't have a problem with the word "Devil," especially when it is used in conjunction with the word, "Ray." The animal is called a "devil ray." However, I do believe that the Christians on the team had a problem with the word devil, and that they objected to it, saying that the team wouldn't be good if they are associated with a devil. Sounds silly, doesn't it? However, when I heard that, I wondered if Rush just throws "facts" out without any thought at all. 100 million dollars for a guy who also doesn't get it. He's not one of us. I make $10,000 a year.
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    • Author by catfish1968 (September 05, 2008 2:19 am ET)
         
      the regressive party only cares about the baby until it is born and then the baby is on it's own.
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    • Author by moe (September 05, 2008 4:43 am ET)
         
      Palin got it wrong.

      I put lipstick on my pit bull Rocco (glossy ruby red) and I have to say, he looks a lot like Rush Limbaugh.
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    • Author by ImpeachBushNow (September 05, 2008 11:24 am ET)
         

      "A disturbing fact continues to surface in sex abuse research. The first best predictor of abuse is alcohol or drug addiction in the father. But the second best predictor is conservative religiosity, accompanied by parental belief in traditional male-female roles. This means that if you want to know which children are most likely to be sexually abused by their
      father, the second most significant clue is *whether or not the parents belong to a conservative religious group with traditional role beliefs and rigid sexual attitudes*. (Brown and Bohn, 1989; Finkelhor, 1986; Fortune, 1983; Goldstein et al, 1973; Van Leeuwen, 1990). (emphasis in original)
      ["Sexual Abuse in Christian Homes and Churches", by Carolyn
      Holderread Heggen, Herald Press, Scotdale, PA, 1993 p. 73]

       

      ·  "The worst child abuse is that which most subtly implants future emotional problems.

      ·  Teaching children to fear imaginary things is child abuse.

      ·  Teaching children to think about gruesome forms of death is child abuse.

      ·  Teaching children that someone is always watching them is child abuse."

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    • Author by jmh (September 05, 2008 12:51 pm ET)
         
      No offense intended,to the folks here, but the fact that the Limbaugh's, Hannity's and Roves of our political landscape face no real accountability speaks to the ineffectiveness of the "Blog-o-Sphere" and the efforts of MMFA.

      The fact that Republicans can still run on the faux-issue of lowering taxes, smears of anti-patriotism, and the like says that it is, as always, business as usual.

      The fact that Obama can be called a piece of fecal matter by a broadcaster and not have this comment disavowed and condemned by whole of American News Media, and especially the Republican nominee, speaks to the ever abysmal state of political discourse in this country and the shameful character flaws of this cycle's Republican nominee... hero status notwithstanding.
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    • Author by legfederalNRLC (September 05, 2008 4:17 pm ET)
         

      Media Matters asserts, "In fact, Obama and other opponents said the bills posed a threat to abortion rights and were unnecessary because, they said, Illinois law already prohibited the conduct that these bills purported to address."  The "conduct that these bills purported to address" was credible testimony that humans were being born alive after abortions, and were being placed in a hospital's "soiled utility room" and otherwise neglected during the time it took them to die.  The Born-Alive Infants Protection Act was a simple, three-sentence proposal designed to ensure protection and care for these babies.  From 2001-2003, Obama led the opposition to this legislation purely on grounds that under his concept of Roe v. Wade and abortion rights, legal status may not be conferred on what he called the "previable fetus" who is the target of an abortion -- and that is what the bill would have done, but only in cases in which such a human had achieved "complete explusion or extraction" from the mother, and was alive. 

      These statements by Obama -- and they are multiple -- are revealing about the scope of his thinking on "abortion rights."  That is why he has tried so hard to deflect attention away from them.  The statements are quoted verbatim in a White Paper issued by National Right to Life on August 28 and posted at www.nrlc.org

      The Illinois law that Obama now (this is claim is recently minted) asserts made the bill unnecessary (720 ILCS 510.6) covered only situations where an abortionist declared before the abortion that there was “a reasonable likelihood of sustained survival of the fetus outside the womb.”  Humans are often born alive a month or more before they reach the point where such “sustained survival” – that is, long-term survival – is likely or possible (which is often called the point of “viability”).   The old Illinois law has no bearing on many of the induced-labor abortions about which nurses testified before the committees in Congress and the Illinois state legislature, because many of them were performed on humans who were capable of being born alive, and who often were born alive, but who were not old enough to have a “reasonable likelihood of sustained survival . . . outside the womb.”

      Beginning with his 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, Obama recognized that his actual articulated reason for opposing the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act -- that a living, squirming baby entirely outside the mother cannot be regarded as a legal person under his vision of Roe v. Wade, if that baby is "previable" and was born during an abortion -- would be impossible to defend.  That is when he started the "cover story," a fabricated distinction between the state and federal bills, and even claimed that NRLC was "lying" when we asserted that as committee chairman, he had killed a bill virtually identical to the federal bill.  Regarding this, a report issued by Annenberg's FactCheck.org on August 25 concluded, "Obama's claim is wrong . . . The documents from NRLC support the group's claims that Obama is misrepresenting the contents of SB 1082 [the 2003 Illinois BAIPA]." 

      Here is the ENTIRE TEXT of the bill that Obama voted against and killed in the committee he chaired on March 13, 2003:

      < AN ACT concerning infants who are born alive.  Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois, represented in the General Assembly:
       
      Section 5. The Statute on Statutes is amended by adding Section 1.36 as follows: (5 ILCS 70/1.36 new)

      Sec. 1.36. Born-alive infant.

      (a) In determining the meaning of any statute or of any rule, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative agencies of this State, the words "person", "human being", "child", and "individual" include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.

      (b) As used in this Section, the term "born alive", with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from its mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after that expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.

      (c) Nothing in this Section [the bill] shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this Section.

      Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon becoming law. >

      Douglas Johnson
      Legislative Director
      National Right to Life Committee
      Washington, D.C.  20004
      www.nrlc.org
      Legfederal // at // aol-dot-com

       

       

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    • Author by writingindependence (September 05, 2008 7:49 pm ET)
         

      Lymphbug and the republicans are the big fluoridation

      autism and SIDS pandemic engineers.  There is no issue

      with their 'right to life' disguises.  Its just something they

      reflexively b.s. about because they have nothing else to say

      to a public they want to slow-poison and an America they

      want to tear down any way they can, even with oil.

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