Limbaugh continues to repeat falsehood that Obama favors "infanticide"
On his radio show, Rush Limbaugh continued to repeat the falsehood that Sen. Barack Obama favors "infanticide," saying that Obama "believes and favors infanticide. Not just abortion, but infanticide." He added: "This guy approves of abortion in the fourth trimester."
On the September 3 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh falsely claimed that Sen. Barack Obama "believes and favors infanticide. Not just abortion, but infanticide." He continued: "This guy approves of abortion in the fourth trimester." As Media Matters for America has documented, Limbaugh has repeatedly distorted Obama's position on the so-called "born alive" bills during his time as an Illinois state senator by declaring that Obama's opposition to the bills amounted to support for infanticide. In fact, Obama and other opponents said the bills posed a threat to abortion rights and were unnecessary because, they said, Illinois law already prohibited the conduct that these bills purported to address.
Since August 19, Limbaugh has repeatedly called Obama a supporter of "infanticide":
- On his August 20 program, Limbaugh claimed that "Obama lobbied for infanticide." He later said, "You know, abortion's one thing; infanticide is quite another, and it is now widely known that Obama was all for infanticide. It's the only way you can put it."
- Discussing the controversy over the number of houses Sen. John McCain owns, Limbaugh said on his August 21 show: "Obama wants to talk about numbers and houses? Talk about how many babies have died because of Obama's support for infanticide."
- On August 22, Limbaugh said Obama "really admires" China's one-child policy. He went on to say: "[M]ost people want a son. And if they are pregnant with a daughter, what do they do? They abort, and they keep aborting until they get a son. Now that's a policy Obama can support. That's a policy Obama likes. He's for infanticide. It is not an overstatement to say so."
- On his August 25 show, Limbaugh said Obama is "an infanticide nominee," and claimed Obama is "for infanticide."
- On his August 26 program, Limbaugh said of the Democratic Party: "So, here's a party trying to present itself as a newly-found faith party -- that they understand people's values -- and their nominee believes in infanticide."
- On August 28, Limbaugh said of Obama: "What has complicated his mental journey are his political ambitions. His desire to hold high public office has required this confused man to lie about his sometimes bizarre judgments such as supporting infanticide."
- On his September 2 program, Limbaugh said Obama "supports infanticide" and "supports the killing of babies born alive as the result of botched abortions."
From the September 3 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: What is it with liberals and children? We hear from liberals all the time that we must do this and we must do that for the children, do we not? Yet, they've nominated a guy who believes and favors infanticide. Not just abortion, but infanticide. This guy approves of abortion in the fourth trimester. The drive-by media favors waiting 17 years to destroy pregnant teenagers. Seventeen years is how old Sarah Palin's daughter is. And I guess if you're 17 and you're the daughter of a woman who doesn't fit to what the liberal mold is, then you can destroy that child, too.
What is it? What is it with this "liberals and children -- this is for the children" business? Liberals are child abusers -- partial birth abortion, infanticide, now doing their best to deliver enough deliberate and calculated stress to cause a miscarriage. Has anybody been thinking about that on this 17-year-old little girl? For the children? What part did I miss, ladies and gentlemen?
Oh, and how about this? How about that report we had a couple weeks ago -- 100 university presidents want to lower the drinking age. They say they're for the children. They say they're for this and that. You know they're passing out condoms. They want to pass out condoms in the schools. They want to pass out birth control pills in the schools. The only thing they don't want to pass around is a pack of cigarettes for afterwards.
Dirty little secret: The Democrats have no Sarah Palin on their side, even liberal Democrat men are not her equal. As I say, Barack Obama is half the man Sarah Palin is.
From the September 2 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: But this is not a media anal exam; this is a media uterus exam -- a uterus exam that is taking place here by the drive-by media shamelessly. I know people know this getting into the game. This is what it's about. You don't get in it if you don't expect this to happen, but I hope they keep this up because it's going to backfire on them in a major way.
Stop and think of this. What are we really talking about? What are the drive-bys talking about? We're talking about a woman, Sarah Palin, who gave birth to a Down syndrome child and now they're suggesting that she shouldn't have done that -- and I've got the audio coming up -- and that she shouldn't have flown while she was pregnant with the Down syndrome child. She was being totally irresponsible here.
And on the other side, we have Barack Obama who supports infanticide, who supports the killing of babies born alive as the result of botched abortions, and guess where the drive-bys find the controversy.
From the August 28 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Barack Obama, giving him the benefit of the doubt, is confused. He's written two autobiographies by age 47, having not done diddlysquat -- except learn how to be a thug in Chicago. He's written two autobiographies in an attempt to work through his circumstances and his judgments.
What has complicated his mental journey are his political ambitions. His desire to hold high public office has required this confused man to lie about his sometimes bizarre judgments such as supporting infanticide; to lie about his associations with well-known anti-Americans.
From the August 26 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: So, here's a party trying to present itself as a newly-found faith party -- that they understand people's values -- and their nominee believes in infanticide, and their speaker of the House has restated Catholic Church policy.
From the August 25 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Now, also, Biden is 100 percent pro-choice. There is no -- I mean, you've got an infanticide nominee. You've got a guy that's for infanticide, and you've got Biden who has a 100-percent approval rating from Planned Parenthood, from NARAL, the National Abortion Rights Action League.
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LIMBAUGH: Anyway, this -- this is not -- sorry to stutter here, folks. I just -- really, I sit here in stunned bewilderment and disbelief over what I consider to be not just stupidity and silliness, but arrogance and hubris, and the ignorance that these people have over how this kind of comment is going to come back and bite her [House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-CA)] presidential nominee. I guess she thinks that she has to provide some sort of Democrat [sic] Party interpretation of Catholicism that permits Obama to get away with infanticide beliefs.
From the August 22 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: One other thing about China -- and this is I'm sure something else Obama really admires: the one-child policy. Chinese couples are allowed one child because they can't feed all of their people. And most people want a son. And if they are pregnant with a daughter, what do they do? They abort, and they keep aborting until they get a son. Now that's a policy Obama can support. That's a policy Obama likes. He's for infanticide. It is not an overstatement to say so.
From the August 21 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Hi, welcome back. Hey, here's another thing that we could do here, folks. Obama wants to talk about numbers and houses? Talk about how many babies have died because of Obama's support for infanticide. They're trying to do anything they can to get away from that, and they're not going to be able to. This is something -- you know, the last thing -- there's a bunch of things that have centered and appeared now in this campaign that the Democrats had no desire to show up, and I tell you, they don't want the abortion debate. They don't want it back. And especially with the candidate they've got.
From the August 20 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Obama has no clue what he's up against. Barack Obama's closest associates hate America, folks: Bill Ayers and [Rev.] Jeremiah Wright. I mean, stop and think of this. To top it all off, Obama lobbied for infanticide and doesn't have the guts to admit when he's wrong.
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LIMBAUGH: By the way, you Democrats and drive-byers, you want to know why he's plummeting in the polls, you just look at this answer right here. You know, abortion's one thing; infanticide is quite another, and it is now widely known that Obama was all for infanticide. It's the only way you can put it.
From the August 19 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: They've got pro-choice in Obama. They've got more than pro-choice. They've got somebody who believes in infanticide running atop of their ticket. They couldn't be happier.











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Wolf, are you NOT paying attention?
limpaugh: "Liberals are child abusers -- partial birth abortion, infanticide, now doing their best to deliver enough deliberate and calculated stress to cause a miscarriage."
Now who do you think is doing those calculations? That's right, I'm working on the stress calculations right now, and throwing around numbers like 20 million and stuff is really confusing me. And it's not exactly allowing me to do my best, do you think?
Now, please. The sooner you liberals let me crunch these numbers, the sooner we can start the stress procedure.
I recognize that Limbaugh is half-kidding about this liberal conspiracy to psychologically induce a miscarriage, but in doing so he really is exposing the fault line in his position on abortion.
Even the most strident anti-abortion activists tend to argue that abortion should be criminalized as murder, but women who seek abortions should not be punished: doctors who perform abortions and the liberals who support their right to do so, on the other hand, are the murderers and accessories to murder. Meanwhile, if Bristol miscarries, Limbaugh half-jokingly argues that it will be the fault of liberals: not a horrible but foreseeable potential outcome of her having become pregnant.
The unspoken assumption that makes sense of these otherwise paradoxical positions
is that women have no agency whatsoever upon becoming pregnant. If abortions are illegal and they seek an abortion, the woman is not responsible. If she has a miscarriage, it's not a personal tragedy, but instead a crime committed by someone else.
Limbaugh's position on abortion has far less than an ethical commitment to the unconditional protection of human life than it does the subordination of adult women's rights to the lives of the children they bear. Limbaugh and his ilk claim to stand for the rights and freedoms of the individual above all else -- except in the case of a woman at the moment she conceives, at which point her womb practically becomes state housing.
No problem. I managed to work through it.
But I do need to know, before I release my final numbers: Will this indict me? After all, I didn't really "make the bomb", merely provided the material for it, so to speak. Is there a legal precedent? Nuremberg?
I will await legal advisement before publishing the stress calculations. Sorry, fellow libs. Our eeville plot may be delayed for some time.
Besides, I hope you're including in your fatal formula every minute of air time that Limbaugh devotes to Bristol Palin. Certainly that must cause a little more stress than an anonymous post on a website. And how much more stress do you think would be caused by your mom running for Vice President when she's under investigation for abuse of power?
The Fourth trimester!! The Fourth trimester !
That must have been the last term he spent in college.
But Oscar, abortion isn't murder, it's abortion! ;)
But I'm hurt you'd possibly consider me in the same league as those guys who tried to assassinate Obama last week. :(
Oscar, didn't you know? The NRA has diversified their portfolio. They now have an outstanding line of 4th trimester abortion equipment to compliment their current inventory of hunting and safety weapons and equipment.
Take for instance this baby, it's called the aborto 4000, nicknamed the crusher:
This baby weighs 14,000 pounds fully fueled and can carry a payload of 3000 pounds. This lil' workhorse can roll over the smallest of fetii and with the carrying capacity of 3 doctors and 14 nurses + wash away hose equipment you can be comfortable knowing that no fetii will escape unnoticed.
Next up is the M-107, aptly nicknamed the 2,000 meter fetii keeler.
This two man team abortion tool uses a hot 50 caliber spent nuclear tipped round. When your doctor/nurse team equips this with night optics you can garantee they will not only cover any abortion in their hospital, they can provide home delivery services without ever leaving the clinic!
But, you ask, what do you do if you live in a state that only allows 1 abortion clinic? Well my friend, the Paladin is the abortion tool for you!
"This baby can be on the move, get a call to abort and be ready to respond in a few minutes", explained Doc Holliday. It carries enough ammo to do 32 conventional abortions, two laser guided abortions and enough propellant to keep Bristol from becoming pregnant in Alaska.
Now if you live in a small town, you don't necessarily want fancy. You want something simple that can be easily serviced yet provide the high quality abortion you feel your patients are entitled to. For you we offer the .44 magnum, affectionately named the "dirty harry":
An abortion provider can't help but get up close and personal with this baby! At 6 abortions per load it requires one operator to provide the experience of a lifetime. A bit of a kick, but you can pretty much garantee that a clean hit won't require a follow up shot!
I was definitely looking for something "portable". See, often we here at St. Coulter end up chasing fetuses around the delivery room, and can't deal with the bulk and unwieldy nature of traditional abortion equipment.
I'm sort of leaning toward your Dirty Harry model. The only problem is that sometimes in all the excitement of a multiple abortion, I lose track, thinking "did I abort 5 babies, or 6?" I need that fetus' head to come clean off, and I can't work with confidence if I'm asking myself "Do I feel lucky?".
Do you offer one with a built-in counter? That would make my day!
As Graydog pointed out above, there is no "fourth trimester", so it can't be abortion, so it would be the murder of a living being, right? A little over the top on this one, oh Great Beagle. Or we could include those other weapons of destruction (approved by AAA and ABA), vehicles propelled down our roads and byways by impaired or inattentive operators.
Ah, well, we have done little to change the situation, but we have added fuel to the fact(?) that RashL is even more over the top than items in our discusssion.
Remember when Dennis Miller wasn't shilling for Fox News? He once offered this in response to a clinic bombing:
"The right-to-life movement killed a doctor. Let me use their own terminology against them: They 'aborted a child in the 200th trimester'. People in the right-to-life movement should get a life before they tell other people what to do theirs."--Dennis Miller
Let me put it in terms you MMFA goldfish can understand. Obama favors allowing a baby to die over giving it emergency aid to save its life as the result of a botched abortion. There is no spin to get him (or you) out of this mess.
You say potato, I say infanticide.
It’s so wonderful when our #2 on the ticket trumps your #1
Palin > ObamaOh, I get it now...
I WAS thinking your handle "Max Dharma" was picked as kind of a badge, an emblem of higher learning and clear universal perspective. NOW I recognize that it's irony.
Good one!
Oh, Mary...Tell me you're not implying that "Max Dharma" comes not from irony, but from ignorance?
Surely with the education system we have and the glut of available information resources, there is no one in America that could fall into that trap.
You're so close to being accurate, Max, but you're leaving one little tiny detail out: the baby in question isn't a baby, but a fetus in the process of being aborted legally. Obama's position is if a woman has the legal right to seek an abortion, she has the legal right to see that the procedure is carried out successfully and doesn't result in the exact opposite outcome. Why does it make any sense to you to give emergency aid to save a fetus once a decision has been made to abort that fetus legally?
By next week, the right will be saying that it was Obama who kidnapped Smith's kids.
Let me put it in terms YOU can understand, Max. Obama voted against the bills because Illinois state law ALREADY prohibited the same practice those bills sought to prohibit; NOT because he favored infanticide.
If that's confusing, read it again, paying careful attention to the words I put in all-capitals.
brain....don't....work....me....don't.....
hear....you....you...want....babies....
killed....you.....socialist....
So now Limbaugh separates abortion and infanticide?
As he should. Infants are born, and can't be aborted. Fetuses can be aborted, but they aren't infants.
but a 'viable fetus' (lawyers speak for 'infant') can be born and aborted... like ecclesiastes says, 'a time to be born, a time to die...' which could be the same time in obamaland.
btw, wz, are you a limbaugh look-alike named jeff christie with a guilty conscience, or are you a male prostitute from the 70's with a score to settle?
It's a whole lot easier to say.
I am still waiting for the photo of Obama, in his white shirt and tie, covered in the blood of baby infants.
What is it with conservatives and their obsession with the fetus. They could care less about the countless future generations threatened by the possibility of global warming but certainly the status of the fetus is all that matters...
Plummeting in the polls? Last time I checked, Obama hit 50% while McCain dropped one point down to 42%. MN and IA are solidly in Obama's column, Ohio is turning around for Obama, and even ND is in play.
Rush is delusional as always.
Rush is delusional as always.
Residual effects from all that OxyContin.....
Obama got a "Palin bounce."
(h/t John Amato)
Yes, Obama wants babies murdered.
Now that the evangelical base of the Republican party has been put back in the front row center of their focus, with their newly discovered Sarah Palin, they see new hope, when they thought a McCain victory would only leave them in the bleachers.
So it will be an all out assault kitchen-sink strategy aimed squarely at Obama, for another politician with God in her hip pocket is ascending to the heights of power, and the Limbaughs of the world are armed and ready.
Obama, prepare yourself.
The National Enquirer released a teaser that next week they will reveal the news that Palin had an affair with her husband's business partner. McCain's camp has threatened to file a law suit and is calling it a vicious lie.....of course the right wing media recently praised the National Enquirer for knowing about Senator Edward's affair before the MSM, and wondered why the media didn't go after the story sooner.
( Bostonherald.com 9-4-08 and CBS news 9-3-08)Repubican Calculus: If you repeat a lie an infinte # of times it becomes truthy.Using Limbaugh logic, Palin committed attempt infanticide by not properly taking care of herself after her water leaked.
This cannot be stressed enough. If a fetus, no matter its stage of development, is entitled to the rights and protections of a legal person, then the law can consider any injury to that person the criminal responsibility of the pregnant mother. Limbaugh's subordination of women's rights to fetal rights opens the door to the prosecution and punishment of women for late miscarriages and birth defects. This isn't a slippery slope, it's a logical consequence.
Possible McCain campaign ad:
"If elected, Obama will murder Palin's unborn grandchild. Barack Obama: He enjoys killing babies." "I'm John McCain, and I approve this message."
That's just "collateral damage."
Speaking of those pesky and expensive wars, Mary, did you notice how the US invaded Pakistan while our attention was diverted by the beauteous but poison-tongued Mrs. Palin?
Taking a lead from BHO supporters some time back, this would hardly be classified as an Invasion of Pakistan.
But Colonel, Princess Palin has really given a pick-me-up to the Reepublican Party..she is the Viagra of the Cons.
But you physical description is correct...just like her speech. Sounds good on paper but nothing there.
We have to remind ourselves: Rush is not a journalist. He is an entertainer. I don't believe HE believes some of the lies he tells. He is paid--and well paid--to stir up controversy and get reactions from intelligent liberals like us.
Ignore Rush. It's the only way. WVaMomma
I put lipstick on my pit bull Rocco (glossy ruby red) and I have to say, he looks a lot like Rush Limbaugh.
"A disturbing fact continues to surface in sex abuse research. The first best predictor of abuse is alcohol or drug addiction in the father. But the second best predictor is conservative religiosity, accompanied by parental belief in traditional male-female roles. This means that if you want to know which children are most likely to be sexually abused by their
father, the second most significant clue is *whether or not the parents belong to a conservative religious group with traditional role beliefs and rigid sexual attitudes*. (Brown and Bohn, 1989; Finkelhor, 1986; Fortune, 1983; Goldstein et al, 1973; Van Leeuwen, 1990). (emphasis in original)
["Sexual Abuse in Christian Homes and Churches", by Carolyn
Holderread Heggen, Herald Press, Scotdale, PA, 1993 p. 73]
· "The worst child abuse is that which most subtly implants future emotional problems.
· Teaching children to fear imaginary things is child abuse.
· Teaching children to think about gruesome forms of death is child abuse.
· Teaching children that someone is always watching them is child abuse."
The fact that Republicans can still run on the faux-issue of lowering taxes, smears of anti-patriotism, and the like says that it is, as always, business as usual.
The fact that Obama can be called a piece of fecal matter by a broadcaster and not have this comment disavowed and condemned by whole of American News Media, and especially the Republican nominee, speaks to the ever abysmal state of political discourse in this country and the shameful character flaws of this cycle's Republican nominee... hero status notwithstanding.
Media Matters asserts, "In fact, Obama and other opponents said the bills posed a threat to abortion rights and were unnecessary because, they said, Illinois law already prohibited the conduct that these bills purported to address." The "conduct that these bills purported to address" was credible testimony that humans were being born alive after abortions, and were being placed in a hospital's "soiled utility room" and otherwise neglected during the time it took them to die. The Born-Alive Infants Protection Act was a simple, three-sentence proposal designed to ensure protection and care for these babies. From 2001-2003, Obama led the opposition to this legislation purely on grounds that under his concept of Roe v. Wade and abortion rights, legal status may not be conferred on what he called the "previable fetus" who is the target of an abortion -- and that is what the bill would have done, but only in cases in which such a human had achieved "complete explusion or extraction" from the mother, and was alive.
These statements by Obama -- and they are multiple -- are revealing about the scope of his thinking on "abortion rights." That is why he has tried so hard to deflect attention away from them. The statements are quoted verbatim in a White Paper issued by National Right to Life on August 28 and posted at www.nrlc.org
The Illinois law that Obama now (this is claim is recently minted) asserts made the bill unnecessary (720 ILCS 510.6) covered only situations where an abortionist declared before the abortion that there was “a reasonable likelihood of sustained survival of the fetus outside the womb.” Humans are often born alive a month or more before they reach the point where such “sustained survival” – that is, long-term survival – is likely or possible (which is often called the point of “viability”). The old Illinois law has no bearing on many of the induced-labor abortions about which nurses testified before the committees in Congress and the Illinois state legislature, because many of them were performed on humans who were capable of being born alive, and who often were born alive, but who were not old enough to have a “reasonable likelihood of sustained survival . . . outside the womb.”
Beginning with his 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, Obama recognized that his actual articulated reason for opposing the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act -- that a living, squirming baby entirely outside the mother cannot be regarded as a legal person under his vision of Roe v. Wade, if that baby is "previable" and was born during an abortion -- would be impossible to defend. That is when he started the "cover story," a fabricated distinction between the state and federal bills, and even claimed that NRLC was "lying" when we asserted that as committee chairman, he had killed a bill virtually identical to the federal bill. Regarding this, a report issued by Annenberg's FactCheck.org on August 25 concluded, "Obama's claim is wrong . . . The documents from NRLC support the group's claims that Obama is misrepresenting the contents of SB 1082 [the 2003 Illinois BAIPA]."
Here is the ENTIRE TEXT of the bill that Obama voted against and killed in the committee he chaired on March 13, 2003:
< AN ACT concerning infants who are born alive. Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois, represented in the General Assembly:
Section 5. The Statute on Statutes is amended by adding Section 1.36 as follows: (5 ILCS 70/1.36 new)
Sec. 1.36. Born-alive infant.
(a) In determining the meaning of any statute or of any rule, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative agencies of this State, the words "person", "human being", "child", and "individual" include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
(b) As used in this Section, the term "born alive", with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from its mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after that expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
(c) Nothing in this Section [the bill] shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this Section.
Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon becoming law. >
Douglas Johnson
Legislative Director
National Right to Life Committee
Washington, D.C. 20004
www.nrlc.org
Legfederal // at // aol-dot-com
Lymphbug and the republicans are the big fluoridation
autism and SIDS pandemic engineers. There is no issue
with their 'right to life' disguises. Its just something they
reflexively b.s. about because they have nothing else to say
to a public they want to slow-poison and an America they
want to tear down any way they can, even with oil.