Mark Belling called Gloria Steinem a "grizzled old bag," "old witch"
Radio host Mark Belling called Gloria Steinem a "grizzled old bag," "old witch," and "embittered old has-been" and also stated that the "previous generation" of feminists "were so ugly you couldn't stand to look at them."
On the September 4 broadcast of The Mark Belling Late Afternoon Show, radio host Mark Belling called author, activist, and Ms. magazine co-founder Gloria Steinem a "grizzled old bag," and an "old witch." Belling made these remarks while discussing Steinem's September 4 Los Angeles Times op-ed, in which she criticized Sen. John McCain's choice of Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice-presidential running mate. Belling also asserted: "She [Steinem] was the cutting edge feminism. Feminists prior to her were the old bags, the previous generation prior to the [The Feminine Mystique author] Betty Friedans of the world, the women that were so ugly you couldn't stand to look at them. Here came Gloria Steinem wearing the mini skirts and dating the famous people and being the glamorous representation of what American feminism is. Well now Gloria Steinem is just nothing more than a 74-year-old, embittered, old has-been sitting out in Los Angeles."
Belling's show is carried on News/Talk 1130 WISN-AM in Milwaukee, owned by Clear Channel Communications. Talkers magazine includes Belling in its "Heavy Hundred" list, which it describes as a list of the "100 most important radio talk show hosts in America."
From September 4 broadcast of WISN's The Mark Belling Late Afternoon Show:
BELLING: Guess who's weighing in on Sarah Palin. I couldn't be happier -- Gloria Steinem, grizzled old bag that she is. There was one point where Gloria Steinem was the future of the feminist movement in America. She created Ms. magazine, she invented it. She was the cutting edge feminism. Feminists prior to her were the old bags, the previous generation prior to the Betty Friedans of the world, the women that were so ugly you couldn't stand to look at them. Here came Gloria Steinem wearing the miniskirts and dating the famous people and being the glamorous representation of what American feminism is. Well, now Gloria Steinem is just nothing more than a 74-year-old, embittered, old has-been sitting out in Los Angeles. She watched Sarah Palin on TV and she's beside herself. Here's what the old witch has to write.
Op-ed today's Los Angeles Times: "Here's the good news. Women have become so politically powerful that even the anti-feminist right wing, the folks with a headlock on the Republican Party, are trying to appease the gender gap with a first ever female vice president. We owe this to women and many men too who have picketed, gone on hunger strikes, or confronted violence at the polls so women can vote."
OK, that's why this happened, because of the hunger strikes so women could vote.
"We owe it to [former Rep.] Shirley Chisholm [D-NY], who first took the 'white-male-only' sign off the White House, and to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who hung in there through ridicule and misogyny to win 18 million votes.
"But here is even better news. It won't work. This isn't the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need."
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"...sitting out in Los Angeles."
That's my favorite part.
Never heard of the guy but we have someone very similar here in Boston.
Jay Severin.
If all these greater than middle aged to old white guys are not making their living out of affirmative action for radio waves, I do not know how.
If you do not sympathize with above post, please read no further.
I have decided t continue my rant.
It appears to me that all talk radio does is peddle hate ,and whine, all the time. Sean Hannity blames it on hate Bush people. If there are any of them, I can understand their feelings.
May be they lost a loved one in an ill conceived war, may be they lost their job because of his policies, may be they cannot afford health care anymore (though he may not be directly responsible, he is the CEO of the country :) ), may be they are just partisan Democrats. But, they all have a reason.
But what reason do all these hate, fear peddling talk radio hosts have, other than that is the only way they can make their living? Most of them claim to be Conservative and/or Libertarian. They never let out the truth. They are all Republican hacks.
end of rant. Thanks for reading.
You are right of course. Sadly, some of these people even consider themselves to be Christians! They have put many things ahead of the truth and basic principles of decency, honor, and respect. But they do make money. I would like to see a sociological study done of the middle-aged male talk show host. I think the divorce rate in this cohort would be remarkably above average. So many of them seem remarkably childish.
I listen to public radio myself almost completely these days, in small doses at a time. I hope the rest of the public tires of these earsores soon. I don't know if boycotting advertisers would make any difference, but it probably wouldn't hurt to try!
I agree with Belling. By the time you're 74 years old, you're just too grizzled and old to be effective at anything. Seventy-somethings are just bitter about the fact that they're old, and they need to be put in their place! How dare these old people try and re-live the memories of their glory days, which are so far behind them they probably can't even remember them!!!
Yes, old people are horrible.
How can this me MISINFORMATION when it's TRUE
I wonder the same thing every time I read your posts. BTW, she stated a fact.
I think he's just unsupervised. Folks probably locked the cellar door after leaving a plate of food, and headed to Frisco for the weekend.
He'll get sleepy soon. Things will get back to normal.
I'm pretty sure that's not his real hair - though, one must admit, it doesn't look like he got enough time to pose and try and look either happy or serious... half way between is not a good place to be.
Also, all due respect to the numerous supportive contemporary men who are here, but I've yet to meet the man who could talk to me about any aspect of the women's movement and not make me either cringe or want to slap him. Professional radio personalities usually fall into the latter category. This one didn't break the mold.
I think I've resigned myself to the fact that the right wing media and Republican politicians don't pay a price for doing or saying stupid and embarrassing and truly offensive things. Like this clown, who probably GAINED a few listeners after this absurd rant.
Like the Walter Reed backdrop screwup. Not only do the people who are going to vote for McCain not care that he put Walter Reed Middle School (I still canot believe the depth of the f-up on that one) on his big TV there, but they actually think that people who go to the trouble of pointing that out are nitpicking and gay and probably want to take away everyone's guns and penises.
You see, old-school feminism was all about making it in the world on your own, *without* a man. The traditional role of a wife and mother was frowned upon by the feminist of yesterday.
Gloria Steinem is all hissy because Gov Sarah Palin breaks that old-school feminism mold and shows women that they can have it all .. looks, a handsome husband, lots of adorable kids and any gosh darn position in government they want.
Gov Sarah Palin proves that women don’t need to be man’ish to succeed, they only need to be talented.
Men today are less repressive and sexist, so women can bloom and grow on their own without a girl’s club support system.
Societies not yet perfect in this regard, but it’s getting better every year.
I guess the days are gone when you can debate on wisdom alone.
"I guess the days are gone when you can debate on wisdom alone."
After reading your posts here l have to ask, just when the f*** did you START debating on wisdom?
Ignore that request, Max.
You've already done way more than enough to prove we can add this to the list of subjects with which you're unfamiliar. Newsmax links, FrontPageMag links, even limpaugh links are unnecessary.
Time to move on and start dreaming stuff up for another subject.
By the way, just heard where the principal of Walter Reed middle school has written a letter to the McCain campaign saying she never gave permission to use the picture of the school as a backdrop last night.
sorry if there are errors above, but I can't proofread any of it because of the tears in my eyes...
Most counties in Nevada, that's true.
Plus, they get a free AIDS check every month.
The non-female parts are sold over-the-counter, but usually they're overpriced and don't include batteries.
I don't recall ever hearing of any female counter parts - but I'm sure you can get them online.
I do believe that this is changing rapidly though and that we will see it vanish entirely within a short number of years.
Something worth noting when recounting this societal blemish is that this inequity is only in certain segments of our society. In other segments of our society this inequity is virtually non-existent.
In the last 20 years, I’ve had probably 3 female bosses. They were very well compensated (on par with their male peers) and were in no way discriminated against.
We have a ways to go, but we can get there without removing or somehow degrading being a wife and mother. A woman can be anything she wants to be without giving up on some of the most precious aspects of life.
In many counties in Nevada, women work in dens of inequity.
No mam. Most men in society today are secure enough and don’t need to resort to either physical or mental misogyny to feel empowered.
The feminists movements of the 60s hastened this awareness, but it was going to happen anyway.
Right, and Iraq would have come along just fine without the surge, as well?
the two cannot be likened; sorry, but it is a retarded analogy.
No salaries were secret.
Unless they're conservatives- then they deserve less, right??? I love how two faced liberals are about this stuff. It's llike the NOW- they're for all women UNLESS those women oppose abortion and other stuff that's principle based and outside of their ideology.. then they somehow become fair game for all the stuff they would oppose being applied to their cliquish little groups. Get over it- the worst misogynists of the past week ARE liberal women.
Yah, thats why this particular man calls old women names right?
Must be only the young nubile ones they respect....right?
Oh no, they want those barefoot and bearing children and not have a choice in the matter.
However a sour, resentful personality like yours will like be shunned in any environment.
Max -- I have a feeling you are a teacher, right? That would explain the "matrix, blah, whatever" and the public access to salaries. I am a teacher and I understand that ALL teachers at the same "step" and with the same educational level earn the ame salary. How is this proof of income equity across the professional spectrum?
One more thing: do you know the meaning of the the word "sanctimonious"?
How is this proof of income equity across the professional spectrum?
I never said any such thing and did in fact say something quite different.
PS. And yes, I know the work sanctimonious, it means holier-than-thou.
It's really quite a lot of work to not sound holier-than-thou when speaking to liberals/secular progressives. :P
Oh, brother.
My reading comprehension is fine. Also, my ability to infer and generalize. You, however, might want to work a little harder on the sanctimonious thing.
Not at all .. but yours is a typical liberal style retort.
The fact that politics has been dominated by men "an old-boys club" is a demonstration of sexism in politics, however calling it an "an old-boys club" is not at all sexist; it simply is what it is.
"You see, old-school feminism was all about making it in the world on your own, *without* a man. The traditional role of a wife and mother was frowned upon by the feminist of yesterday."
Wrong on both counts. True, it was corrupted to the by a few odd-balls...but mainstream feminism was, and is, about equal rights, and equal opportunity, for both men AND women.
Or someone that is more informed is trying to enlighten you.
You decide.
"Or someone that is more informed is trying to enlighten you.
You decide."
You bet. I have decided. You don't have a clue that what you say has no basis in reality.
Yes, for today's feminists, no for those of the 60's.
We will just have to disagree.
Gov Sarah Palin proves that women don’t need to be man’ish to succeed, they only need to be talented.
All she's proven is that you've got to have good looks and catch the eye of an old geezer with the power to promote you.
oogling his "soul-mate"
If I was Ms McCain I would be more than a little pissed.
But yeah, if it were only you huh?
(Don't be such a goldfish)
Max,
You seem to neglect the fact that she is the protege of Senator Stevens. Turns out she did have a man in her life that got her where she is now.
(And in doing so has achieved 3x the experience as Obama.)
It's really weak to try to attribute all her success as a mayor and governor to some 3rd party .. really weak. Read up man, then we'll talk.
Gloria was and is her own woman. This guy's bought and paid for.
Class does not depend on looks. Lack off class can use good looks as a crutch. Somehow the lack of class here shines though his mug.
Think he's had any nip tuck done?
If the resentment affects her life then she isn't her own woman.
Try again.
"a 74-year-old, embittered, old has-been "
Wait a minute. Is he talking about McCain?
Well well.
I live an hour's drive north of Milwaukee, and know of Belling all too well.
I laughed my head off, when ACT-UP threw just about the entire vegetable stand at Belling, for his hateful AIDS comments.
(I saw an egg hit him in one ear, I swear I saw it come out his other ear.) (grin)
Why would you think that? Put my coment in context, rate it, and show examples and numbers that support your thesis.
I can't recall tha last really creative insult directed at Shrub.
Steinam has been mch better for this country than WPE Bush has been.
Well, really just the fringe cult of Republicans that have ruled for the last decade.
What is amazing is how they face so little accountability for their
perpetual disdain of, hmm, well: People, America and its form of government, and yes, the Constitution.
They do, however, love the Flag, oh, and Guns, it seems, and, oddly enough, destroying the advances we have made, and the values that our ancestors fought, sacrificed and died for... did I forget to mention they love the Flag?... just not the nation for which it stands.
Lol, that's classic .. I should make that my signature line. Do you mind?