On MSNBC, Feehery claimed attacks on Palin are "kind of attacking motherhood and apple pie and everything good about America"
On the September 11 edition of MSNBC Live, Hill contributor and Republican strategist John Feehery claimed that "when the Obama campaign and when the left bloggers attack [Gov.] Sarah Palin, it's kind of attacking motherhood and apple pie and everything good about America." Feehery also asserted that Palin "represents everyday America, normal America."
From the 1 p.m. ET hour of the September 11 edition of MSNBC Live:
MITCHELL: But John Feehery, what about Sarah Palin? Is she now giving John McCain opportunities in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan -- well, maybe not Pennsylvania. That would be perhaps too big a stretch for the Republicans. But Michigan and Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, some of these states, holding Virginia. Does she appeal to women and to blue-collar voters and fill in that gap on the Republican side?
FEEHERY: Absolutely. She not only energizes the base, she brings in new voters for Republicans. You've seen the polls. White women are flocking to John McCain and Sarah Palin. They love Sarah Palin because she represents everyday America, normal America. And I -- you know, frankly, when the Obama campaign and when the left bloggers attack Sarah Palin, it's kind of attacking motherhood and apple pie and everything good about America. I think it's a big mistake for Obama to do that.
And that's energizing not only the Republican base, but bringing in Reagan Democrats. It's really good for the McCain campaign, and I do think that Pennsylvania is still within striking distance. Maybe I'm crazy. But I do think that she energizes everywhere in between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, in between there, and also in the Pittsburgh suburbs. She's a very appealing candidate.
MITCHELL: And she's campaigned very successfully in some of those areas already in terms of the rallies and crowds that have gathered.
FEEHERY: No doubt about it.
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Here we go again with the polarizing, pitting the 'two Americas' at odds with each other again. We've all seen this movie of the week before, next thing you know the rightwing talkers will be screaming for all the libs to just leave cuz they aren't 'real Americans'. Lay off Sarah! WWWAAAHHH!
And McCain says HE'S the candidate for change??? I dunno, peeps, but this sounds much more like 'business as usual' to yours truly...
Sure. And don't you love it when guys like Feehery tell us what America is all about? As if they'd ever know or ever go there.
It's interesting, too. In their version of regular America, the onus is always on the Democrats or Democratic positions. You'd never know from these guys that Democrats are the majority party in the USA.
Try again. You are pathetically clueless if you think John Edwards has any relevance to this thread.
thumperhumper,
Wasn't John Edwards that first talked about 'two Americas'?
How has Obama, other than going against her policy positions, attacked Palin? The left wing bloggers, well, that could be another matter, but funny how they equate the Obama campaign, and bloggers in the same sentence, as if they were one in the same.
So like Bob on the other thread, can they show us where Palin has been smeared? Methinks not. They're not attacking motherhood.
"the interweb"
Can I get that on dialup?
FEEHERY: They love Sarah Palin because she represents everyday America, normal America.
"Normal America" asks about getting books banned from their local lobrary, lies about supporting the "Bridge to Nowhere", lies about selling a jet on eBay, tries to get their ex-brother-in-law fired, and cuts funding for assistance to unwed mothers (only to find out that their 17-year-old daughter has been knocked up by a redneck).
Caribou Barbie represents eveything that's WRONG with America - just like the GOP in general.
Referring to this person as a "dolt" just because you don't agree with his opinion is just like attacking feeble old grandparents and ice cream.
I denounce you for denigrating a perfectly innocent and sweet dessert product.
I can see your point, Tommy, but since we are all working, I like the updates on what the talking points of the day are.
I'm curious as to what they will be when she flunks the debate tests... and she will. Of course, the rabidly insane Right will deny it - no surprise as they are quite adept at denying reality period.
In my view, there is no defense of McCain, his VP pick, his campaign, his ideas, his tactics or a vote for him. I can't do it, perhaps others can. I never really considered voting for him anyway when it became clear Obama was the nominee.
For me, it has gone from a look-elsewhere away from McCain to a look-of-disgust towards McCain.
I never really considered voting for him anyway when it became clear Obama was the nominee.
Tommy welcome to my Team ;-)
Don't underestimate her. She is deadly dangerous.
She's 'polished' only when she has the teleprompters.
Hell, I heard that she needed them for her Alaska 'homecoming' even!
And if Obama does what I think he may do... then she will DEFINITELY lose big-time. Not gonna let the secret out but if it comes to pass, all this 'sexism' garbage will be null and void.
I'm worried that this campaign will not learn from the losing lessons of the past. I'm worried they will not attack the bs for what it is until it has festered and spread it's odor everywhere.
Aaahh, yes, it's good to see that my homeboy Roundhouse is still the progressive warrior and truth-teller per excellence that I've known him to be. I agree with you wholeheartedly!
Matt Stoller made a smiliar point today at Open Left.
I'm glad you dropped in. I miss you.
This is what I've been looking at lately, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/what-obama-needs-to-do-in_b_125051.html
Pit,
Let the debates be the debates and judge them for what actually happens rather than preconceive the outcome.
May the best team win.
It is unfortunate that "rabidly insane Right" will turn up to vote no matter who their candidate is.
The traditional media is once again trying to force the wrong President on us by doing the same thing they did before. Turn this election into 'vote for whoever you want have beer with' rather than how would you feel the next morning, or eight years later.
Well, looks like those 'Republicans' need to read that memo that states that there is more, much more, to America than motherhood, apple pie, etc. America is quite diverse actually and not everyone is into motherhood, apple pie, hunting moose, waving the flag, drinking beer, watching NASCAR, yelling 'USA! USA! USA!', etc.
I know that may disturb the precious 'narrative' the Right has set up but then again... reality does tend to have a liberal bias.
You forgot a few...
Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and Chevrolet, They Go Together in the Good ‘Ole USA…*
*For those too young to remember this was from a tv commercial a long long time ago
British car myself. That's why I'm voting Labor Party this election.
A number of years ago, I was real close to getting an Aston. But after looking at them, checking the engineering and the reliability reports, comparing them to the TVR's, Porsches, and Ferraris, and finally test driving one, I decided that I was about $150,000 short, so I went with a used '76 Pacer instead.
But, why am I wasting my valuable time away from the beautiful people telling you this?
Good day, sir.
I think the idea here too is that Mitchell didn't rebut him in any way.
Wierd thing about Mitchell-- one day she's good, the next she isn't. One day she defends dems, the next day she helps skewer them.
She too must be getting that morning memo. She's also pretty clear proof that there is one. And it always seems to debut on Morning Joe-- that crowd there gets positively schizophrenic when viewed day-by-day.
Tommy,
"it's kind of attacking motherhood and apple pie and everything good about America. I think it's a big mistake for Obama to do that."
When did Obama do that?
I wasn't quoting you, I was quoting Feehery.
And it doesn't sound like opinion to me, it sounds like made-up, accusatory bull**** (i.e. misinformation).
"accuracy, reliability and credibility of commentary"
Forgive me if I don't depend on MMFA to gauge the accuracy, reliability and credibility of information put forth by the media that they wholeheartedly disagree with, with regard to partisan opinion. If they want to correct facts for all three benchmarks, that is valuable. Whining about opinion they disagree is well, whining.
It's the part about that it forwards the conservative agenda that Tommy is purposely missing.
Opinions that are based upon lies, myths, distortions that further the conservative agenda of making conservatives look better than they deserve to look or by making liberals look worse than they deserve to look, are conservative misinformation.
Tommy hasn't had a leg to stand on the 9 months or so I've been posting here when he's made his WITH statements. Not once. And I've explained this to him countless times. He has not defense for not understanding this, and anyone who ever gives him a pass because he pretends to be a moderate is only fooling themselves.
Tommy,
I think what MMFA is objecting to here, & I suppose you could call it mis-information, is that Feehery is suggesting Palin represents everyday normal Americans...and then defining what everyday normal Americans are. In this case, he seems to be saying that everyday normal Americans were the type depicted in the sitcoms Leave it to Beaver, Dick Van Dyke Show, Ozzie & Harriet etc. Now that's just my guess, or opinion.
Of course it's his opinion. But I'm just thinking this has to be the objection to it.
J,
You're probably right, but it's still strictly opinion. I don't agree with his opinion either but it isn't being put forth as some fact by a reporter, the source of the opinion is clearly identified as a Republican. It's no different, really, than any Republican analyst on any show offering their campaign spin or opinion, it's done ad nauseum all day long, and normally countered by a Democrat doing the same thing. No biggie though......
It's just Palin, Palin, Palin 24/7 - it's all you hear, the media has gone berserk over her, she is wearing thin, if she wasn't already.
Of course it's his opinion. But I'm just thinking this has to be the objection to it.
How could anybody possibly object to the Beaver? WITH MMFA? :-0)
Irrespective of the baloney he is throwing out about Obama and the "attacks" on Palin, WITH? Feehery is a Republican strategist, as evidenced very clearly by the graphic under his picture, he is giving his opinion. MMFA isn't complaining about Mitchell being "uncritical", their favorite word, so it must be because they just don't like the opinion that Feehery offers. I don't particulary like it either,but it's placement here is puzzling.
You play the part of a dunce so well.
Why is this here? Because it forwards the conservative agenda. How is that? By pretending that we're a nation of small towns. We're a nation of cities and suburbs now. How? By pretending that small town values, mom, apple pie, are 'owned' by Sarah Palin, and not owned by Barack Obama. The fact is that 'small town values' are getting married, then getting pregnant. That's Obama, not Palin. Small town values are working at a regular job like being a doctor, or lawyer, or teacher, like Obama and his wife, not like being an oilfield worker and a snowmobile racer like her husband. Small town values like helping one another out, but not being too greedy - that's Obama, and that's not Republicans.
It's not that they don't 'like' his opinion. It's that it's conservative misinformation, because it's not reliable and it furthers the conservative agenda.
How is it that you still can't get that simple concept through your thick skull, Tommy? Or is it that you do understand it, but you do your darnest to derail some threads with your WITH nonsense, so people talk about that instead of the actual topic? I think it's the latter, because you're a hypocrite and a Republican troll.
This is way off topic, but the Bush Administration is now doing exactly what they ridiculed Obama for doing...again.
First it was negotiating with the evil enemy - Iran.
Second, it was "surrendering" in Iraq with a timetable similar to Obama's.
Now, it turns out the Bush Administration has been "invading" Pakistan!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080911/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_pakistan
I wouldn't be surprised, not at all, if McCain turns this around and says something like, "Obama tells you that I'm just another George W. Bush. Well, he's wrong, and here's why. The Bush administration has been making moves lately that closely follow the policy positions of the Obama administration. Why is more like George W. Bush now?"
Count on it.
If banning books is everyday America, than Palin is your girl.
That Sarah's America. She is deadly dangerous.
That Sarah's America. She is deadly dangerous.
Roundhouse, both of them are dangerous to women:
In 1994, John McCain voted against legislation -- pushed through Congress by Joe Biden that helped put an end to the practice of charging rape victims for sexual assault exams.
While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.
In 2000, then-Governor Tony Knowles signed a bill in Alaska that ensured law enforcement around the state would pay for the processing of "Rape Kits" - forensics evidence collected in rape cases. Seemed common sense enough. Knowles noted, correctly, that we don't charge robbery victims the cost of dusting for prints, so why would be charge rape victims the cost of gathering evidence to apprehend their assailant?
Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams
Palin then served two terms (1996–2002) as mayor of Wasilla,
But you know how conservatives look at rape as well as I do. They think no woman is raped who doesn't ask for it. It's their own fault, they say, they didn't have to wear that dress. So why should the good citizens of Wasila be forced to pay for anything those sluts brought on themselves? Of course it's different when it's one of their own daughters because they aren't one of those sluts, they are righteous, this is a real emergency. We ain't like them. We're better.
Does that about sum it up?
But ain't it just so typical of those bulllshit cons to put their love of money above care and empathy for people?
Roundhouse, since the 60's, I've had a low opinion of the Republican party and every election simply confirms my low opinion.
There are three words Republicans understand, money, power and do anything to hold on to money and power. "Empathy for people" is not in their vocabulary. This country is experiencing the worst housing crisis in it's history and now Republicans want to stop folks from voting AFTER they've lost their home.
The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.
“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.
The Macomb County party’s plans to challenge voters who have defaulted on their house payments is likely to disproportionately affect African-Americans who are overwhelmingly Democratic voters. More than 60 percent of all sub-prime loans — the most likely kind of loan to go into default — were made to African-Americans in Michigan, according to a report issued last year by the state’s Department of Labor and Economic Growth.
In Ohio, Doug Preisse, director of elections in Franklin County (around the city of Columbus) and the chair of the local GOP, told The Columbus Dispatch that he has not ruled out challenging voters before the election due to foreclosure-related address issues.
http://www.michiganmessenger.com/4076/lose-your-house-lose-your-vote
Now, all those folks they were courting who got burned by the you're on your own society are being purged from the voting rolls. Perfect.
Pearlene, have I told you today how much I can't stand those Republican jerks?
Pearlene, have I told you today how much I can't stand those Republican jerks?
Roundhouse, you didn't have to. I'm muting my television and not reading anything McCain, Plain or any other Republican says. I need to keep my blood pressure down.
that was a different America pre Iraq war
NO IT WASN'T! He was the only consistent voice AGAINST the war. And he was silenced. Makes you wonder...
There's no wondering GE owns NBC that is that. A company that profits on war is not going to allow critique of it. That's is like the Blackwater Pacifist club. Does not Johnny Mac have a connection to Blackwater lobbists -- why yes he does -- imagine that
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Top_McCain_defenders_firm_prepped_Blackwater_0222.html
Obermann and who?
Feehery is, I think projecting.
Who gives a crap what they think of her in Alaska? Seriously. What do they have in common with most regular Americans? I can't field-dress a moose and I don't care that I don't know how.
I'll tell you exactly why her presence has bumped the ticket. Because the Obama campaign let the GOP set the narrative. From day one of her nomination the Obama campaign failed to emphasize her negatives.
Why is her approval rating in Alaska 80%?
All Alaskan residents receive a yearly dividend from the oil drilled there. Palin raised the rate that the oil companies had to pay towards that dividend so everybody in the state got a bigger check.
Now, what part of that vote buying scheme is fiscal conservatism and which part is windfall profit taxes combined with socialism?
What this guy feehery said on MSNBC, what he did and who he is: you of course can read for yourself the transcript, to know what he said, but as for who he is... MSNBC (and MMFA in their citation) refer to feehery as a "Republican strategist"
"Republican strategist"
Without trying to discover a bio on this guy feehery, I'm going to define what he is, what a "Republican strategist" is, in this particular case, on MSNBC:
He (feehery) is a lobbyist of sorts: he is lobbying the American People, by way of the media (cable television's MSNBC in this particular instance), on behalf the Republican Party in general, and the McCain-Palin campaign in particular... and as far as his lobbying pitch goes, well as I said, you can read (or hear) it for yourself.
I say I just accurately defined who this guy feehery is, in this particular matter at least: he is a lobbyist for the McCain campaign, appearing on MSNBC, to influence and manipulate the American People's political opinions (or least those Americans who watch MSNBC, and watched him, feehery)...
That's it: that's what feehery is (in this case): that's what a "Republican strategist" is, when they appear on cable television, with those words under their televised faces...
A lobbyist, lobbying the American People, in and on the media (MSNBC), for the McCain campaign.
Call it what it is... define it specifically, exactly, accurately... it helps to know the better words, the truer words... that's what a "Republican strategist" is on cable television.
Motherhood and apple pie – give me a break. It was Palin herself that described herself as a “Pit bull with lipstick”. Well, if that is the image she wants to portray, then the gloves should come off and she should be attacked relentlessly when she lies and lies and lies, which seems to be every time she opens her mouth.
However, Obama needs to keep attacking McSame by linking him to Bushy boy constantly, and not get sidetracked by Caribou Barbie.
I am failing to see the conservative media bias from MSNBC as a result of words spoken by a Republican strategist. Why is MMFA's point?
I'm so tired of this old-boy beltway crap.
On the other hand, if the Dems would stand up for themselves, attack instead of defend, stop apologizing and start impeaching, and stand up for the bloggers who are mostly right, they wouldn't be in this mess.
John McCain is legendary; John McCain is a hero; I respect and admire John McCain.
How about skipping those parts and saying:
John McCain is wrong; John McCain is a war-monger; The Bush, Gramm, McCain, lobbyist economic policies are pushing us towards another depression.
jimdissin,
That's what we need more of! The left and their leftist candidate coming out and fighting! That will make the left's ideology clearer to the American voter. Then they can compare that to motherhood, apple pie, baseball, chevrolet, and decide who to vote for. Stand up for yourselves guys!!!
"And I -- you know, frankly, when the Obama campaign and when the left bloggers attack Sarah Palin, it's kind of attacking motherhood and apple pie and everything good about America."
Really?Did he really go there?This is the kind of statement that truly disrespects the intelligence of the average voter.It's so clichéd its cartoon like.Its utterly absurd.