Brzezinski on Palin: "[I]t would be great if she could hit it out of the ballpark tomorrow night"
On the October 1 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, discussing the upcoming vice presidential debate, co-host Mika Brzezinski said of Gov. Sarah Palin: "[I]t would be great if she could hit it out of the ballpark tomorrow night and that people may really like what they're hearing. They just -- we just haven't heard anything more than the fact that she's very likable and very technically competent. Am I being fair?" Earlier in the segment, Brzezinski also said of Palin: "The big issue, though, as [NBC News political director] Chuck [Todd] was talking about earlier, is whether or not she's even gotten to the acceptability bar. And I'm just going to just say, as a woman and a working mother, I would love to see her do well. I'm just not seeing anything in these interviews that are leading me to believe that she's got a deep world view. I'm just -- I'm asking, but I really want to hear more, and I want to be surprised at this point."
From the October 1 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
JOE SCARBOROUGH (co-host): So, Willie, we've got a big debate tomorrow.
WILLIE GEIST (MSNBC correspondent): The debate -- you saw it there with the magic graphic. It is tomorrow night in St. Louis, 9 o'clock.
BRZEZINSKI: This is going to be something.
GEIST: Sarah Palin --
SCARBOROUGH: It's going to be exciting.
GEIST: A lot of people are looking forward to this.
SCARBOROUGH: Oh, yeah.
GEIST: And part of the fuel to that fire has been these Katie Couric interviews for Sarah Palin. They want to see how she's going to stand up in a debate based on what she did with Katie Couric. We've been showing you some clips over the course of the morning. Here's another one now where she sort of goes after Joe Biden's age and then explains it away as her admiration for his experience. Mike, watch this.
MIKE BARNICLE (MSNBC commentator): OK.
[begin video clip]
PALIN [video clip]: I've been hearing about his Senate speeches since I was in, like, second grade.
COURIC: When you have a 72-year-old running mate, is that a kind of a risky thing to say, insinuating that Joe Biden's been around awhile?
PALIN: Oh no, it's nothing negative at all. He's got a lot of experience and just stating the fact there that we've been hearing his speeches for all these years. So, he's got a tremendous amount of experience and, you know, I'm the new energy, the new face, the new ideas, and he's got the experience.
[end video clip]
GEIST: It's about experience, guys.
BRZEZINSKI: Umm --
BARNICLE: Listen, I like --
BRZEZINSKI: -- yeah.
GEIST: She looks up to him.
BARNICLE: I like Governor Palin very, very much, but nobody --
BRZEZINSKI: I do, too.
BARNICLE: -- and I mean, nobody makes fun of Joe Biden as long as I'm around.
SCARBOROUGH: No, this is a no-attack zone.
BARNICLE: Right.
SCARBOROUGH: Apparently --
BRZEZINSKI: Well --
SCARBOROUGH: -- the Pony Express didn't get that message up to Alaska.
BARNICLE: Exactly right. Exactly right.
BRZEZINSKI: -- the big issue, though, as Chuck was talking about earlier, is whether or not she's even gotten to the acceptability bar. And I'm just going to just say, as a woman and a working mother, I would love to see her do well.
SCARBOROUGH: Yeah.
BRZEZINSKI: I'm just not seeing anything in these interviews that are leading me to believe that she's got a deep world view. I'm just -- I'm asking, but I really want to hear more, and I want to be surprised at this point.
BARNICLE: Well, I mean, that's why, obviously, Thursday is going to be huge for Sarah Palin, because I think many people are now looking at the clips that we play, reading what's been written, and they're saying, you know, "Please" --
BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.
BARNICLE: -- "just leave her alone."
BRZEZINSKI: Or is it the -- that the --
BARNICLE: "Leave her alone." But as Chucky T. pointed out to us, more people than not are now focusing on, you know, "Is she credible?"
SCARBOROUGH: Well, experience --
BRZEZINSKI: Looks like we've got an economy in crisis.
BARNICLE: Yeah.
SCARBOROUGH: At the same time, by a large number -- it's almost 2 to 1 -- people think the media's been unfair. And maybe, Willie, it's that Joe Six-pack vote. You know, I like -- I go around calling myself Joe Six-pack.
GEIST: Yeah.
SCARBOROUGH: Joe Biden's --
GEIST: Joe Biden --
SCARBOROUGH: -- a Joe Six-pack.
GEIST: a Joe Six-pack. We've got another Joe Six-pack.
SCARBOROUGH: Really?
BRZEZINSKI: What? Oh, OK.
GEIST: Her name is --
SCARBOROUGH: Who?
BRZEZINSKI: Joe Scarborough.
GEIST: -- Joe Sarah Palin.
SCARBOROUGH and BRZEZINSKI: What?
GEIST: Here's what she said on the radio yesterday.
BARNICLE: What?
[begin audio clip]
HEWITT: Governor, your candidacy has ignited extreme hostility, even some hatred on the left and in some parts of the media. Are you surprised? And what do you attribute this reaction to?
PALIN: Oh, I think they're just not used to someone coming in from the outside, saying, "You know what? It's time that normal Joe Six-pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency," and I think that that's kind of taken some people off guard, and they're out of sorts, and they're ticked off about it. But, you know, it's motivation for John McCain and I to work that much harder to make sure that our ticket is victorious and we put government back on the side of the people of Joe Six-pack like me.
[end audio clip]
BRZEZINSKI: OK. So she's folksy. And I know -- look, the two of you are moaning here, thinking, "ouch, ouch, ouch," but let me tell you something -- that it would be great if she could hit it out of the ballpark --
SCARBOROUGH: Oh, yeah.
BRZEZINSKI: -- tomorrow night and that people may really like what they're hearing. They just -- we just haven't heard anything more than the fact that she's very likable and very technically competent. Am I being fair?
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Mika Brzezinski said of Gov. Sarah Palin: "[I]t would be great if she could hit it out of the ballpark tomorrow night and that people may really like what they're hearing.
Well, I for one am thrilled MMFA was savvy enough to catch this ever so subtle yet egregious conservative misinformation.
Good Job MMFA!
I think you'll be really surprised by Palin no matter what she says tonight. you'll moon over her like a loony sheep, and no ernest and informed policy discussion by Biden will have the slightest sway over your swooniness.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76645
Easier. Sigh I still don't understand how to rename links.
Please provide an Ifill quote pulling for Obama on par w/ Brzezinski's Palin pom poms.
Hey Dex,
Gwen gave a look of disgust and that makes her biased? The looks she gave? There is nothing substantive, the author cites looks as the basis for calling her biased? Are you kidding me? This is the crap you idiots throw out there?
Get real!
It's deceitful of her to not have notified the campaigns of her partisan views in favor of BO. She had to know that writing her book would cause legitimate concern over her objectivity, yet she didn't bother to disclose this info. Considering that the media in general is nothing more than spokesmen/women for the democratic party, it's no surprise that Ifill leans left, but that she's an Obamaniac certainly impinges on her credibility as moderator.
I Object.
Don't worry. Everyone knows that the worst thing Ifill could do to Sarah Palin is to ask her to talk for a few minutes in response to a question. She would have to do that even if she wasn't pro-Obama.
Deceitful?
There has been no deceit whatsoever.
First, let's start with the book itself:
link
So the book is about black politics in this country in general, culminating with a black man as a serious contender for the Presidency. Doesn't sound particularly partisan to me. Unless you think the mere mention of Obama's name makes it partisan...but no, that would be stupid.
Second, the book doesn't even come out until freakin' Inauguration Day! It's absolutly impossible for its contents to influence the election in any way.
Third, the McCain campaign officially agreed to the debate schedule and moderators on August 21. They already knew about Ifill AND her book at that time, and they still green-lit the debate.
link
Object all you want. Ifill's nose is clean. McCain said so.
Dex, I just want you to know that I risk banishment from this site for posting an off-topic comment, but even despite that, this liberal is going to help you with your link problem. Because...I care.
First, pick a word from your text that you want to be the link, and highlight it with your cursor (drag mouse or shift-arrow):
Go to the top of the comment editor box and locate the "link" icon (looks like 3 links of a chain, right next to the blue "up and right" arrow). Click on it.
When the "Insert/edit link" window pops up, paste your link url into the box labeled "Link URL". DO NOT HIT ENTER.
IN THE NEXT BOX DOWN, FROM THE DROP-DOWN LIST, CHOOSE "OPEN LINK IN A NEW WINDOW".
Click the "Insert" button on the lower left.
And there you are.
You have created a nice, tidy link that will open in a new window or tab. Note that neither the validity nor topicality of your link is guaranteed by this method, so don't expect your links to "little green footballs" to be accepted with enthusiasm.
Dex wrote:
>> If she was a debate moderator like this lady, it might be a bigger deal.
When you link to a real news source, let us know. You really take the worldnet seriously? I mean, really, Dex?
Once again confusing reportage about Obama with reportage for Obama. But I was swayed by the expertise of "PBS viewer Brian Meyers of Granby, Conn.," as well as the remarks of complaints received by PBS's Ombudsman.
Does WorldNetDaily have an Ombudsman?
Brzezinski on Palin: "[I]t would be great if she could hit it out of the ballpark tomorrow night"
I would consider it a minor miracle if Caribou Barbie doesn't stumble through the debate sounding like Miss Teen South Carolina 2007, Caitlin Upton:
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our [children].
Good god, that sounded just like the Katie Couric interview!
I've never heard that Pailn is "very technically competent." Where in hell did she get that?
Digital field moose dressing is all the rage with today's technogeek.
I've never heard that Pailn is "very technically competent." Where in hell did she get that?
Probably on the premise that since she's a governor, she must know what she's doing. Big deal - George W. Bush was a governor, and he's dumber than dirt. And the country will pay the price for his stupidity for years to come.
Yes, WZ, he was governor of my state and I knew that he'd make a crappy president. No big surprise for me. (do you live in TX?)
And now the poser is gonna get the go ahead for his presidential library and contaminate the campus at SMU. I think they may rue the day that decision was finalized. But I guess we'll see.
(do you live in TX?)
Yes - since 2006. And I can proudly say that I NEVER voted for George W. Bush.
I never heard of Palin until August 29.
She can see a computer on her assistant's desk, and when her cellphone rears it's head and invades her personal space she has to be ever vigilant against dropping bits...
It was a cold December night when she got the call: Santa's snow machine had broken down, and the likelihood of presents being delivered to all the children was in doubt.
Sarah Palin quickly hung up the phone, threw on her toque and mukluks, and dashed out the door. A quick whistle, and the dogs were lined up. Swinging the harness over her head, she gave it a toss and placed it perfectly over the pack, and with another whistle, the dogs towed her out into the darkness of the raging blizzard.
She entered the clearing a mere 90 minutes later, and immediately spied a dejected Kris Kringle and 8 dejected reindeer, their pessimism growing with each passing second. Without even slowing down, Sarah leapt from the speeding sled and dashed to the disabled snow machine. Flipping open the engine cover, she grabbed the starter cord and gave a mighty pull. The machine sputtered a couple of times, but wouldn't start. Turning her ear toward the engine, she gave another mighty pull of the cord. Suddenly, a twinkle came to her eye, and laying a finger aside of her nose, she gave Santa a wink. Pulling the engine control computer module from it's mount, she pried open the cover to expose its components. With her knife, she popped out a capacitor, then grabbing a bobby pin from her hair, some nail polish, and some whale bone from the clasps on her parka, proceeded to install her makeshift device into the module. Replacing the box, she again gave the starting cord a pull, and the machine shuddered to life like a bowl of jelly, the exhaust circling her head like a wreath. "Bad cap" was all she said, and giving a whistle, hopped back onto her dogsled, and was gone like the down of a Yukon thistle...
Christmas came again that year, as it had so many years before, with nary a hint of the near disaster avoided by the quick action and technical expertise wielded by a then-unkown college undergrad named Sarah Palin.
Even yours!
You've got a bit of a rut going y'self.
It's interesting that no matter what the topic, all the comments remain the same.
The world is filled with constants. Like Caribou Barbie's incompetance, Gramps McCain's bad temper, and the stupidity of far too many conservatives.
Yes,
I been searching for some insight or possibly words of wisdom from old fmbanker87. I can't seem to find anything but the same old stupid comment.
Am I missing something?
OT, but no way is this guy a registered democrat!
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=2048
Trust me, you ain't gonna believe this!
Well, I personally thought Obama was made of fine linen, but muslin will have to do!
The type of fabric is immaterial.
I'm more interested in the fabric of a man's character. I'm drawn to this man's yarn. I'm going to send a textile message to the Obama campaign to complain. I too am tired of the bobbing and weaving by both candidates. Neither will pull the wool over my eyes.
Obama should tailor his message and try to knit the loose ends together if he wants to reach more voters.
Oh quilt it...
Brilliant!
I just hope that no one comes along and pulls at the loose ends and unravels this thread.
No worries, Worrier. I think you have it sewed (sewn?) up. :-)
His macrame moment?
Lettus not forget that though the warp and weft on the loom of life show us their dyeing strength, it needs a comb to keep everything straight.
He must have taken spelling and sign-making lessons from THIS guy:
"Look what he's doin' to Paul Lynde."
What did Obama do to Paul Lynde? Evict him out of Center Square? Damn Muslin.
Jeter, I never watch Morning Joe, but if you do then I would absolutely take your word for it regarding who Mika is for.
That is the inherent stickler in many of these threads regarding pundits who blabber every day, much of their stuff MMFA probably cheers for, but let them say one thing they don't like and Bam, it's up here and that pundit is labeled right wing trash by one post after another. Best to take it in totality and perspective as you do to get a much fairer sense, thank you.
Tommy wrote:
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Jeter, I never watch Morning Joe, but if you do then I would absolutely take your word for it.
MM. Kiss kiss. Tommy absolutely takes Jeter's word for things. He doesn't have to find out himself when a fellow conservative tells him otherwise!
Call it whatever you'd like, since Jeter is fair I take him at his word. Sorry if you're a tad jealous of that, otherwise your silly post makes no sense. Try and be more like him on these boards and you may get a kiss kiss yourself.
Absolutly, Tommy. He's almost as fair as you, which makes him VERY fair. For me, it's easy to get confused by these partisan parsers with their partisan sniping whines. For instance, when someone talks about a very likable and very technically competent person and they hope out loud that that person would step to the plate and knock it out of the ballpark, I almost think they're rooting for that person, if you know what I mean. But, thankfully, we have Jeter2 to explain otherwise.
Tommy wrote:
>>Call it whatever you'd like, since Jeter is fair I take him at his word. Sorry if you're a tad jealous of that, otherwise your silly post makes no sense. Try and be more like him on these boards and you may get a kiss kiss yourself.
Really? That is your defense? You think I am *jealous* of you and want to get a kiss?
Defense? My defense? You were the one who yelped at the compliment I gave to Jeter, why else would you care unless you were looking for a little of your own?
Don't hold your breath, I don't give away kisses that easily, sorry to disappoint you.
Tommy, I agree Jeter is the fairest poster of them all. We all know this! :-0) Especially me.
In truth, I think they're both dumber than a bag of hammers. :-0)
Who? Tommy and Mika? Tommy and Jeter? Jeter and Mika?
I hope you're not calling my Jeter a dummie. I may have to hurt ya for that remark. Besides, he's handsome! :-0)
A handsome bruise? That could be fair....
I hope you're not calling my Jeter a dummie. I may have to hurt ya for that remark. Besides, he's handsome! :-0)
Gov, trust me this is fair warning from my Miz Julia. She doesn't take kindly to anyone insulting her man. And yeah Gov, her man would be me!
Thanks darlin Julia. You are my angel :-)
Governor, I would choose to live in a bag of hammers for the rest of my MMFA adult life if it meant furthering the intellectual divide between you and I.......thanks for the ultimate compliment.
Tommy,
Thanks bud, but we both know only Libs are allowed to agree with each other or compliment one another's posts. When Cons do it can only be for ass kissing. Also you & I know it's pointless to debate certain idiots here with heads up their arses. They don't want to hear anything if it goes against their partisan beliefs.
"but we both know only Libs are allowed to agree with each other or compliment one another's posts."
Typical emotional conservative response.
Not to argue, because I love Jeter, (in a manly way, but not the kind of manly you may be thinking), but does he have a mirror that tells him he's the fairest poster?
does he have a mirror that tells him he's the fairest poster?
No he uses a body of water :-0)
A Boeotian hero whose archaic myth was a cautionary tale warning boys against being cruel to their lovers.
Julia darlin thanks for posting that picture of me :-)
And you know better than anyone I am never cruel to my lover...
Not to argue, because I love Jeter, (in a manly way, but not the kind of manly you may be thinking), but does he have a mirror that tells him he's the fairest poster?
King, I love you too man [in a manly way, but not the kind of manly you may be thinking].
I do in fact own such a mirror. I bought it at a yard sale. Apparently it had belonged to some *Queen in some fairytale.
*The female type of Queen for those who will now accuse me of smearing gays & being homophobic ;-)
I'm not sure you can trust someone who claims to be able to stomach Morning Joe every day.
BTW, "every day" is a phrase meaning each day, whereas "everyday" is an adjective meaning ordinary, humdrum, dull. It's just a personal pet peeve.
I'm not sure you can trust someone who claims to be able to stomach Morning Joe every day..
Yes, that gives me some pause too. Quite a dichotomy there - fairest poster and watches Morning Joe. Hmmn
The man is one of those riddles, wrapped up in an enigma :-0)
Thanks, Jeter, you're a very fair poster and you've confirmed for me that I was reading this correctly. Thanks!
Jeter, you make a good point, MSNBC has been in the tank for anyone other than McCain. Watch Olbermann and Maddow and you get the real MSNBC.
I disagree. I think Olbermann and Maddow are the fake MSNBC, and all their conservative hacks are real. Whoa. I just blew your mind!
Interesting spin on things.
Who at MSNBC apart of Olbermann and Maddow are "in the tank for anyone other than McCain"?
It's basically irrelevant. Considering Maddow and Olbermann make up the three hour prime time block (Olbermann's rerun airs one hour later after Maddow), and anyone with a lick of sense knows that is when most people watch, then they are the face of MSNBC, a very liberal pro-Obama, anti-McCain face. Get over it Governor, it is what it is.
Do the viewers and ratings dictate the primetime "face of MSNBC"? Is it a political bias on the part of MSNBC that determines the programming?
It is poliitcal bias considering that Olbermann can not even beat the sleezy Nancy Grace.
Do the viewers and ratings dictate the primetime "face of Fox News"? Is it political bias on the part of Fox that determines the programming?
Tommy If FOX News were the pulse of the nation than Bush should be very popular. The most popular cable news outlet in America, yet the most unpopular President since NIxon. How does this happen?
Bush's approval ratings are lower than Nixon's were during Watergate.
As bad as we thought he was at the time, this guy has him beat in the un-popularity contest.
Tommy: Fox News is 100% GOP TV. MSNBC as to anti-GOPers - Olbermann and Maddow, and scores of others who are varying degrees right, middle, and left.
But back to my question: Do YOU think MSNBC's programming choices are driven more by ratings or political bias?
You were the one who dodged the question Governor, so apparently you believe that Fox is driven by political bias and MSNBC is driven by ratings. And that is ridiculous, considering Fox is the #1 cable channel in terms of viewer ratings. So it appears that Fox is driven by ratings, and MSNBC by ideology.
Never mind, you don't need to answer, the facts speak for themselves.
You dodged my question, reworded it as you own, and asked me the same question.
Huh? I just answered it. MSNBC is obviously willing to take a ratings hit to Fox to get their ideology out there, to tap into the anti-Bush, anti-McCain sentiment and be the anti-Fox. So their programming is driven by both, most likely. However, if their ratings never improve and they are always trailing, they will change and their programming will reflect a more moderate, both sides approach, we will see.
As for Fox, they have their core loyal audience, they are sanctioned by their owner and driven by ratings, they are #1, why would or should they change? If their ratings tanked, they would probably shift left too, but that doesn't appear to be happening.
So we are left with Fox, MSNBC, and CNN - which in my opinion is the most fair and balanced, which is why I watch them over the other two, when I watch cable news.
MSNBC is obviously willing to take a ratings hit to Fox to get their ideology out there, to tap into the anti-Bush, anti-McCain sentiment and be the anti-Fox.
And I think they are giving their viewers what they want, just like Fox News.
On that we agree, let them try. I like Maddow, she is smart and reasonable and has contrary opinions on her show, the few times I have tuned in. I hope she sticks around.
MSNBC is going to have to try harding, though. Fox News is sooooo good at their craft...
http://vodpod.com/watch/1047914-fox-news-cant-count-votes?pod=buzzflash
...try harder...
FOX gives the viewers what they want? Please explain?
Tommy you did dodge the question
What question did I dodge?
Actually you did not , i read your answer, sorry. Governor has confused me today he is all over the place.
Because it is not true, MMFA only bans people who deserve it.
I forgot , I am not allowed to ever joke on here.
Chris Matthews, Dan Abrams (Olbermann had him removed though), David Schuster, , Brezenski, Pundints and guests like Barnacle, Eugene Robinson, Howard Fineman, Jonathan Alter, Chris Hayes, Howard Ford Jr, Chris Cillizza, John Talbott, Shannyn Moore.
No one can deny that the way Hillary Clinton was treated by MSNBC was disgraceful.
Oh, so MSNBC is 'in the tank for anyone other than McCain... and Hillary.' We'll, at least they're bipartisan.
Where did I bring up bi partisan? I was one of the few yelling about Hillary Clintons treatment on MSNBC the past spring and all the MSNBC apologist like that idiot Bottleblonde were yelling at me.
Those are pundits
Yes they are . But also because MSNBC gives them airtime.
Of course Sarah won't hit anything out of the ballpark. She's a hockey mom. Mika mixed her metaphors. The only hat-trick she can pull off by tomorrow is by donning a bunny costume, disappearing and being replaced by another Republican VP candidate.
The narrative in the MSM is in the bar setting. The last gasp for SP will be the over indulged back-patting she will get Friday morning. "Didn't she do great!" (she showed up and formed talking points). "Sarah was tough and decisive." (she answered a question and formed a complete thesis – articulated through her handlers – and even got in a self-satisfied moose hunter smirk at the end). "She looked presidential." (Her flag lapel button glimmered).
Given Biden's proclivity for "foot.. er.. 'hoof' in-mout-gaffs", he should just show up wearing a set of bullwinkle antlers and let her gut him on stage. :D
Hey, Musty... why is "conservative humor" always based on the concept of doing violence to liberals?
Is it just for the snickers that you get when you talk about your committment to "the sanctity of life"?
Hey, Musty... why is "conservative humor" always based on the concept of doing violence to liberals?
Because it's the only concept their feeble little minds can grasp. Miss Dee Boat is a prime example.
Yeah, I suppose it would be "great" for Republicans if Palin "hit it out of the ballpark" during the debate. Jebus knows they desperately need something positive at this point.
But I think we all know it's not gonna happen.
I agree. With Sarah Palin, the old adage applies: "Stupid is as stupid does."
This program is one of several I happen to catch in the morning. Not that I want to; I usually go to my trusty lap-top for the truth. The crap on these "news" shows is truly disgusting. It continues to amaze me that ANYONE could have a positive opinion about Sarah Palin. Everything about this slimy woman give me the creeps. There is nothing sincere or real about her. Her lack of awareness or even curiosity about the world is appalling! Her air-head persona is terrifying, if only that so many people think she is just wonderful. She is the perfect example of anti-intellectualism in this country. Oh, yeah, let's "vote the dummy in! Why, just look at her; she's one of US!"
Nothing personal against you DMD, but I fear a dismissiveness of the so-called "dumb" voter. John Fund, the conversative Wall Street Journal editoralist, was on Bill Maher and BM was doing the same thing. Dismissing Palin, calling her supporters (and Americans in general) dumb. And Fund came back and said, keep doing it and we'll have a McCain administration. The idea this time is for the typical GWB voter to stay home and think they are losing. The polls are indicating this. Let's not motivate them by calling them dumb.
Thanks, MickD. You are right, of course. No sense in giving "them" any more motivation. I sometimes (often) let my emotions get ahead of my brain. Feel free to pinch me when I do it again.
Palin will do great as long as she's not asked for specifics about foreign policy, economics or her own record. Oh, and social issues are a disaster as well, since she believes homosexuality is a choice, victims of rape and incest should be forced to give birth, and emergency rape kits should be paid for by rape victims because of the emergency contraception included (not explicitly stated, but the only reasonable conclusion).
This is a journalism major who can't name a single publication she reads, while she supposedly reads a whole bunch of them. How on earth is she going to keep her wits about her against a Senate veteran when she falls apart against the likes of Katie Couric?
The only plausible way I see her being capable is if all of her interviews have been a ploy in order to lower expectations. Considering the amount of mockery that has come from these pathetic displays, that seems like a risky trade-off for an uncertain result.
Good summary, brabantio. Palin MAY come out of this "ordeal" by depending on her cute personality to disarm, not Biden, but the public. Joe Biden will be severely hampered by the need to be a gentleman and not seen as attacking her remarks. Palin will consistently refer to him as "Joe" in order to deflate his stature as "Senator" Biden. He, on the other hand, will have to refer to her as "Ms." or "Governor" Palin in order to show "respect". You can be damn sure she will be coached with tiny "bytes" to his record, "truthiness" or whatever weaknesses he might have in his past performances or remarks. She is also an expert at sarcasm, a powerful weapon. Her lack of substance will be viewed as "refreshing" and "honest". I wouldn't want to be in his shoes tomorrow night.
I think Biden knows what to do. Even though he has had some issues in the past with his gaffes and whatnot, I believe he is a gentleman at heart - and a smart one too. Biden is gonna clean Palin's clock.
This isn't the time for people to scream about sexism in the debates. It distracts attention during one of the most important presidential elections in history. IMHO, Biden should treat Palin as he would any other opponent during a debate. Why should he treat Palin with kid gloves? World leaders won't - especially world leaders from countries where female politicians are abhorred (witness: Afghanistan and Pakistan). Palin is a light-weight. She's unqualified, ignorant and probably the worst candidate for vice-president. Hell, she's even worse than Dan Quayle!
Palin is a light-weight. She's unqualified, ignorant and probably the worst candidate for vice-president. Hell, she's even worse than Dan Quayle!
I know in my lifetime I never thought we would see a VP Candidate worse than Dan Quayle, but she makes Dan Quayle look like FDR.
Brabantio: Your last paragraph says a great deal. I agree with this scenario 100%. Most of my friends share this belief and have made any comments to that affect. Gov. Palin and her handlers have "set it up" perfectly. Like the guy who sits down at a poker game and says, "Gee, fellas, I don't know anything about this game. Ya hafta be patient with little ol' me.", and begins to clean everybody's clock.
Governor Palin is eligible and qualified to be President based on the requirements set forth in the Constitution (35 or older, natural born citizen and been in the country 14 years...). All the other talk about who's most "qualified" is merely opinion. And talking about Palin's relative inexperience opens up Senator Obama to the same criticism. The downside for Obama is that he's the top of the ticket. Lloyd Bensten was clearly more experienced than Dan Quayle at their VP debate yet Dukakis/Bentsen still lost to Bush/Quayle.
I think Mika was sincere in her wish for Gov. Palin to do well; it's on a personal level as opposed to political. Both women are successful working moms in the national spotlight. It is obvious that Gov. Palin has much to learn about national and international affairs. Yet her status as a "clean slate" is also a plus when Congress and the President (most of whom are career Washington politicians) have the lowest approval ratings in recent memory. Part of Gov. Palin's problem stems from her having to be "on board" with McCain's worldview and not say something that differs significantly from the top of the ticket. That hamstrings Palin and the look on her face during interviews reminds me of someone who has to come up with an answer she really doesn't want to give. That has backfired for McCain thus far; hopefully the "handlers" will let Palin be Palin at the debates and let the public decide.
Mika Brzezinski is one of the worst characters on Cable ever. I think it is only because the ego of Joe Scarborough is so strong that they need someone to feed it constantly and there aren't many people with a brain who would tolerate him. She sits there day after day...chirping her approval or disapproval of every word uttered as if we were all waiting to hear if Mika endorsed each part of every sentence. She is like a caricature! Ever since Sarah Palin came on the scene she has been overtly fawning and she's never stopped. One can only assume from her worship of Sarah Palin that Mika can't keep her own life together as a working mom and now believes that anyone who can become Governor and have 5 kids is automatically worth your vote to run the country. I'm amazed it took MM this long to come up with a story about Mika's unerring devotion to Sarah Palin. It's been there every morning since the convention.
Morning Joe ran the Couric clip of Palin talking about her "best friend" of 30 years who happens to be gay. Palin said that wouldn't be a choice she would make for herself. That totally went over Mika's head, didn't even register on her face... homosexuality is NOT a choice!
Reading through yesterday's show transcript, they all sound like a bunch of jokers or idiots. Mika needs to snap out of it!