After railing against gay marriage, Savage said "the spiritual side of the downturn on Wall Street was directly related to the moral downturn"
On his radio show, Michael Savage said: "[Y]ou may say, 'Why should we care about homosexuals trying to destroy families through the mock marriage that they perform in order to mock God, the church, the family, children, the fetus, the DNA of the human species? Why should we care about it while we have a financial meltdown?' Because the spiritual side of the downturn on Wall Street is directly related to the moral downturn in the United States of America."
During the October 1 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Michael Savage said: "[Y]ou may say, 'Why should we care about homosexuals trying to destroy families through the mock marriage that they perform in order to mock God, the church, the family, children, the fetus, the DNA of the human species? Why should we care about it while we have a financial meltdown?' Because the spiritual side of the downturn on Wall Street is directly related to the moral downturn in the United States of America." Savage also said: "[T]he government has no right to force people to accept homosexual marriage. It is why the West is dying. It is why we're melting down as a nation. It is why there is no -- why we have almost negative childbirth rate except amongst illegal aliens."
Savage later said of San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom: "Today it's the gays, tomorrow it'll be a man marrying a horse. If he could get elected saying that a man should be allowed to marry a mule -- a donkey or a mule, he would do that, too, saying it's a civil right to marry a mule -- that any man should have the right to have sex with an animal, because that's his right and the animal isn't complaining about it."
Savage also said: "Take a look at the parade here in this city over the weekend -- they hid it from you. Why did they hide it from you? Why did they not show you men naked in the streets, beating each other up in cages with whips? If you saw the disgusting behavior that Nancy Pelosi permits, that 'Any-Twosome' Newsom permits, that no sane mayor in the world would permit. Dungeon behavior in the streets held up as a norm. Makes the Weimar Republic look like Alice in Wonderland." On the September 29 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, while discussing the Folsom Street Fair, a leather-themed adult-entertainment event in San Francisco, Savage stated: "This country today is far beyond the excesses of the Weimar Republic that led to Adolf Hitler. God forbid that should ever happen here. But the German people, who were not all Nazis prior to Hitler's arrival on the scene, were shocked by the degenerates of Berlin. They were sickened by the perverts, sickened by the artistes, they were sickened by the leather fetishists, they were sickened by the degeneracy, and they couldn't handle it."
During the October 1 show, Savage also referred to the "gay mafia." As Media Matters for America has documented, Savage has repeatedly referred to "the homosexual mafia" in the past.
As Media Matters has also documented, Savage formerly hosted a television program on MSNBC but was fired after he described a caller as a "sodomite" and told him to "get AIDS and die." Savage has also claimed that "the homosexual dance of death" is the "seminal issue of our time," compared gays to "drug addicts," and repeatedly called gay parenting "child abuse."
Talk Radio Network, which syndicates Savage's show, claims that Savage is heard on more than 350 radio stations. The Savage Nation reaches at least 8.25 million listeners each week, according to Talkers Magazine, making it one of the most listened-to talk radio shows in the nation.
From the October 1 broadcast of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:
SAVAGE: Apparently, Gavin "Any-twosome" Newsom, the mayor of "San Fransifo," is in love again. He's in love again with the gay mafia. And he's trying to impose this attack upon families on the entire state. Can you raise the volume? I can't even hear it. All right, there it is. Now, you may say -- you may say, "Why should we care about homosexuals trying to destroy families through the mock marriage that they perform in order to mock God, the church, the family, children, the fetus, the DNA of the human species? Why should we care about it while we have a financial meltdown?" Because the spiritual side of the downturn on Wall Street is directly related to the moral downturn in the United States of America. That is why we have a corrupt Congress. That is why we have a corrupt Wall Street. Because they have been corrupted from top to bottom.
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SAVAGE: African-Americans suffered because of their race, not because of their behavior. Do you understand what I just said to you? "Oooh! Are you implying that it's a bad behavior?" Yes, yes I am implying that it's a bad behavior, and the government has no right to force people to accept homosexual marriage. It is why the West is dying. It is why we're melting down as a nation. It is why there is no -- why we have almost negative childbirth rate except amongst illegal aliens. Because they have not yet been twisted to believe that this is a healthy lifestyle. Everything in you knows that I'm right. But you'll fight with me. You'll argue with me. You'll post it as bigotry, when, in fact, the opposite is true. I'm struggling every day to save this country from people like you, who have destroyed it already.
America's balance hangs like a loose -- America's future hangs like a loose tooth. It hangs like a loose tooth right now. So, here in San Francisco, we got a wack-job as a mayor -- "Any-twosome" Newsom. Today it's the gays, tomorrow it'll be a man marrying a horse. If he could get elected saying that a man should be allowed to marry a mule -- a donkey or a mule, he would do that, too, saying it's a civil right to marry a mule -- that any man should have the right to have sex with an animal, because that's his right and the animal isn't complaining about it. Well, I would say that would be true in Enumclaw, Washington, where it's a national -- where it's a pastime in that city -- they have whole farms up there for that kind of stuff. But it doesn't mean that the government should honor that. I mean, you can puke and look at it and say, "OK -- that behavior -- but don't teach it to my children."
Take a look at the parade here in this city over the weekend -- they hid it from you. Why did they hide it from you? Why did they not show you men naked in the streets, beating each other up in cages with whips? If you saw the disgusting behavior that Nancy Pelosi permits, that "Any-Twosome" Newsom permits, that no sane mayor in the world would permit. Dungeon behavior in the streets held up as a norm. Makes the Weimar Republic look like Alice in Wonderland. Makes ancient Rome's bacchanals look like a tea party, what goes on in this city. And if you let a society run this way, it eventually dies, and that's why we're dead.
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He sounds apocalyptic
He sounds insane, as usual.
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After seeing the Baker item and this today, I expect at least one wingnut to post here explaining that these guys are "just yanking MMFA's chain" and they see it as a victory being mentioned here.
Congratulations. Let the untalented moron derby continue.We're all very proud of you guys for being the most ridiculous idiots imaginable.
But you'll have to admit that Michael Savage' rhetoric towards homosexuals is exactly identical to Fred Phelps' rhetoric. The only difference that The Nightmare on Westboro Street didn't smooch Allen Ginsberg in the 70's, though.
Sorry, Colonel, but it takes talent to be an untalented moron. Maybe not by the untalented moron but his listeners must be untalented in everything they do to become a listeners and supporters of his advertisers. I say that with a wink of my eye and a Cheshire Cat (or Moose) smile on my face.
I beg to differ, POW. It doesn't require much talent at all...
Give them some credit Snoop. They did spell one out three signs right.
.333 isn't that bad an average.
Maybe they think "socialest" is what they're trying to be, the most social people in the neighborhood. You know like the "dumbest".
Nothing wrong with making an effort to be socialer. I do admire their efficiency, in streamlining "Mavrick" to "Mavrik". If we could eliminate waste in Washington the way these dynamos are doing, the country might get back on the right track.
Imagine all the savings you can generate! Heck, they could reduce the white house archives down to 30 Gig or less!
I think you guys are misinterpreting that sign. The red circle with a line through it obviously indicates "anti-socialest", and taken in context - next to the "anti-obama" sign - would mean that they are against the most social Obama. Of course, this is where they display their ignorance, because as any public gradeschooler knows, in a comparitive situation when there are only two choices (as can be presumed here by the presence of the "McCain/Palin" sticker), there is no "-est" superlative, only the "-er". Thus, the correct signage would be "anti more socialer".
Ignorant Bumpkins.
Or is it? If we are discussing conditional statements, the signs read
if not statement 1, then if not statement two
which then makes the statement
if not a socialest, then not obama, or Obama is a socialist.
But I notice the signs overlap, which suggests this is an "and" statement. In this case it says
!statement & !Obama, or in laymans terms, not a socialist and not Obama. In this example they are just telling their neighbors they aren't socialists and Obama doesn't live there.
I will concede that perhaps the signs were uncompiled unix script, rather than the output of machine language. However my conclusion was based on the presence of the confederate flag indicating a likelihood of adherence to natively embedded instructions while maintaining an aversion to open source architecture.
A very astute point indeed, professor. I think you have a stronger case than you think! Observe that not only is there a confederate flag, what isn't there is an american flag thus indicating your thesis indeed does have a basis in fact. In addition, regardless of the conditional tense or script, the first sign clearly claims they are not socialests, yet you can clearly see a socialesque gathering on the front porch. And I also notice the lady in blue is holding something white - perhaps a hood?
There is clearly more research to be done my good professor, but I say! Good stuff, man!
But Colonel, Weiner did extensive research for this piece.
I believe its in the Book of Weiner 2:33
"And low there will be a time when gays and lesbians will ask for equal rights. And god like a tired 4 year old in a tantrum will rain ruin on America's street of walls."
Of course most bibles don't contain this book, because the evil liberals passed legislation in order to push thier communist/fascist (can't remember which it is this week) agenda.
Communist indeed.
Listen to the savage weiner's explanation of the economy, then read this:
Capital
Marx didn't even consider teh gay factor. Conclusive evidence that communism has no morals.
This mans rantings and ravings and hate are astounding. It is astounding that in 2008 this still goes on and stations like WOR in NY allow it.
His sponsors must be so proud. Everybody should call them and tell them how special it is for them to finance this poignant social theorist.
As a single person I find it disgusting that anyone (hetero- or homosexual) would want to get married and cheat this country out of its hard earned tax money... It's a total scam no matter the sexes of the couple getting hitched and our country should not allow these vile "lovers," these co-dependent swines, these married people to keep their money anymore. What if EVERYONE got married??? How would we bomb 3rd world countries into oblivion if we can't afford the bombs?
You're not thinking this thing all the way through.
Let's say I pay $10k in taxes, and my girlfriend pays $10k in taxes. After we get married, we get a tax break, and combined only pay $17k. Then we have a kid, and the deductions bring us down to $14k.
BUT - that kid grows up and gets a job, and begins to pay taxes to the tune of $5k and is no longer a dependent, taking our deduction away and returning us to $17k. That's a combined $22k in revenue from the three of us. Cut our taxes (we all know that cutting taxes increases revenue), and suddenly the govt. is getting $30k from the three of us, effectively buying enough bombs to obliterate Iran AND Venezuela, and maybe even have enough left over to do a little damage to Spain, too.
And that's why we can't let teh gays get married - after their tax break as a married couple reduces revenue beyond what tax reductions would overcome, they won't even have any kids, and we'll fall into economic ruin.
Please, God, don't let California vote yes on Prop 8. Last week a gay friend of mine got married. Can you imagine what it would be like to get married and two months later have your state vote on taking it away from you?
I know a few couples that, after several years of marriage, are thinking that doesn't sound so bad...
This is a test.....
Weiner
I had a great post ready, very funny....and than MMFA said to use less profanity. I knew he was bad, but I didn't know his real name was considered profanity now?
I had a post rejected for profanity yesterday even though I used an asterick.
I don't understand the censor feature either. A few months back, it wouldn't allow me to post the name Richard Simmons.
I can't believe it allowed you to post that just now! Geeze your such a potty mouth! Children may log onto this site.
The "spiritual side of the downturn on Wall Street"? It's called "greed". Was the Great Depression caused by Gay Pride parades in San Francisco?
Seriously, does this man blame potholes on gay people as well?
The credit crunch is definitely a spiritual issue. Remember - it's "Jesus Saves", "not "Jesus Invests".
Savage has hit the nail on the head, once again......darn tootin'
I know that any financial mess I ever find myself in is not my fault. It's the fault of those reckless parade marchers in San Francisco and that morally reprehensible lifestyle they choose to live in after that parade is over. Well, I am headed up I-5 right now and tell them to stop, so I can stop worrying about this looming financial crisis.
By the way tommy. I never mentioned how hot you looked in leather. Not hot in a sexual way, but temperature wise.
And if you must know. I wore feathers. and feathers are as annoying as leather when the temperature rises.
Try wearing leather and feathers while marching shoulder to shoulder down a crowded street and see how you like it. By the end of the parade I was like a drenched chicken dragging around a 50# cow.
Tommy & King,
I know I sent you folks the newsletter - didn't you read it? The zoophile parade is NEXT week. Did neither of you notice that is was our "holding-up-a-bank-with-vibrators" float instead of our "sheep-smashing-cash-register" float?
Dry out those costumes, and I'll see you both Saturday...
& if you guys get hungry, I'll be "manning" the grill at the Rick Santorum Man I could get on a Dog! frankfurter stand.
That is just gross.
Have you seen what they put into those things?
That's the rub Shaggles, nobody has ever been able to explain that to me as well.....many dance around it with all sorts of end of the world scenarios, but to answer your simple question with something that makes sense is incredibly elusive.
That's because the arguements are not logical. And that is what causes anyone who uses logic such headaches (even republicans, unless they are part of the "brain washed" masses).
There are two paths these people use.
1. Answer each question with a new statement, but don't answer the question (example: "Why do you think gay marriage will destroy 'traditional' marriage?" "Gay relationships are not natural")
2. Because GOD says so. (These people, I believe are the truly lost. Because they will not debate, and are taught that any other interperation of the bible other than what they have been instructed to believe is the work of satan. So anyone who tries to show them the faults in their belief system, works for Satan (you can tell by double checking that person's W2's))
Remember these are the same type of people who believe Government is evil and wants to restrict their rights. That government should 100% stay out of thier lives. But plead to that same government to help them when thier houses are destroyed in a flood and/or live on the wellfare/social security checks they get every month.
The "natural" argument cracks me up. Of course it's easy to point out that homosexuality occurs in nature. And there's also a very strong argument to be made that all of the people who have gone through divorce, disinheritance, beatings, public mockery etc. because they are gay have a pretty good reason to choose heterosexuality, if there is some choice involved.
At that point the argument becomes about procreation. There can't be any furthering of the species from it, so that becomes the new definition of "natural". Of course, one thing has nothing to do with the other, and you can go back to the previous argument about gay penguins. That doesn't further the species either, yet it occurs in nature.
What's more, marriage itself may not be natural. Some animals are monogamous for life, others aren't. With a 50% divorce rate, maybe humans are in the latter category.
I only vaguely remember this from college but I seem to remember an argument that homosexual activity is a natural result of reproductive behavior. Basically any animals need to reproduce is manifested as sexual desire. If there are no available females the males need some way to get there rocks off. Lowering sexual desire would mean the end of the species so homosexual behavior is actually related to furthering the species.
to Shaggles:
"Cause it does. Stop asking questions or you'll do to hell!
A short story.
This past week my campus was infested with a number of "religious" individuals (you can guess which faith and no they were not Buddists :) who set up in one of the many "forums" on campus and proceeded to preach. To make it short, we are all going to hell, being liberal, drinking, being gay, etc, etc
It was interesting because when asked, several things were discovered.
Not one of them ever went to college, they based everything on sterotypes of college students.
They had a HIGHLY edited versions of the bible. Which they have not read, because when questioned there were whole sections they did not know about or would not admitt exsisted.
They believed god was lying about that whole "judging others" thing, because they judged everyone and used some very nasty language to do so.
When they took questions they were easily confused and would revert to thier prepared text when they didn't or couldn't answer.
And finally like watching the Palin Biden debate last night, if something was pointed out that they couldn't answer, they changed the subject.
(But they did do a little good on campus. It provided entertainment between classes. And also, one of the sororities was holding a fund raiser for cancer research, they had never had so many people donate before (i.e. so many students gathered in one place)
If you're ever in Vegas, go down to the "Fremont Street Experience", the Downtown area where casinos like the "Four Queens" are. You might find somone with an "Intelligence test" on a big sign. Of course the intelligence test is easy, but it leads you into this religious dialogue about how you can't be a good person unless you follow the Commandments.
I destroyed the guy, and that was even after I drank a rum and coke about as tall as Danny Devito. I think you would enjoy yourself immensely.
I'll have to check that out. Although I'm a little sad I just heard they showed up again Thursday and I missed it.
After a long day of writting essays on Madison and Oren, it would have been a nice break to go stump the under-educated by using high school level logical arguements.
McDonalds, Google, Pepsi, all leading the charge to the apocalypse!
I'm sure murdering millions of people worldwide has nothing to do with it. Well actually I know it has nothing to do with it since there's no fairy tale voodoo, which he refers to as 'morals'.
Hail satan!
Every time Michael Savage mentions the "gay mafia," I am reminded of the Simpsons episodes where Homer gets drunk with several gay guys and later remarks:
"Sorry I'm late, but the Velvet Mafia made me a margarita I couldn't refuse!"
You forget the fact that for most of human history, polygamy was the standard. Even in the Bible, most of the marriages are polygamous. One Man, One woman is a relatively recent development. So when people say "what's next, polygamy?" all aghast, I have to rmind them that its in the Bible. I also chuckle when I hear "one man, one woman just like its always been". Sorry, its not always been.
actually in the Bible God condemned that activity. It is in the Bible because it is a historical fact that people lived that way.
Take Solomon for instance, he was king of Jerusalem, he got prideful and took mulitple wives (as his father did) and God ultimately judged his actions.
polgyamy is NOT condemned in the bible. Not in either the Old or New Testaments. You are wrong on that one. And Solomon was judged, but NOT for being polygamous, but for OTHER reasons.
There are legal reasons to keep polygamy illegal, primarily regarding rights of the spouses. Are insurance companies expected to cover a man's five wives, or just the first one? If he dies without a will, how do you divide the assets? In conflicts between wives, you would have to have an established order of dominance, presumably starting from the first wife on down. This creates a system of second-class citizens, third-class citizens, etc. It complicates things where not necessary, since anyone wanting to involve themselves in that sort of situation can do it through mere cohabitation. It can also be argued that it is inherently abusive and encourages cult-like atmospheres.
Gay marriage creates no such complications or psychological issues. The principle is that any two consenting adults should be able to get married. Gay marriage and straight marriage have the exact same dynamic. Once you get into polygamy, bestiality, and pedophilia (the slippery-slope scare tactics used against gay marriage), that dynamic changes. It's not two consenting adults anymore, and with bestiality and pedophilia you have two undeniably abusive scenarios. So there is no reason for anyone who supports gay marriage to support any other type of "alternative" union.
Oh, I agree. If we permit teh gays to marry, next we'll be allowing two women to marry one man, like, John McCain. And we can all see what a travesty that "marriage" to that man is!
So, you and I are on the same side, CPA5. And the Klan is on our side too! And the Aryan Brotherhood! Even Bin Laden and his buddies! So, we're not alone.
In that respect, Michael Savageweiner is equal to braille on a drive-up ATM.
Huh? What? When?
Did he steal it from some one? Next you will try to tell me that 9/11 was the fault of liberals and gay men.
"Incredibly wise"? Then explain to me why Savage quoted "the latest scientific studies" when he claimed that "90% of the FIVE-MAN Nobel Committee were into child pornography and molestation".
Michael Savage thinks that his listeners are retards with zero IQ, so he feels that he has to preach and lecture to them. And he lies all the time, and bashes homosexuals in a Westboro Bastard Church-style fashion. And just like the WBC, he has no respect for the American soldiers dying in Iraq, as he puts up pictures of their bloody dead bodies up on his site.
For anyone to say that Savage is "wise" - I'm sorry, but we're not the one's with mental disorders here.
I know I shouldn't be terribly surprised at him, but I kind of am. And part of me wants to laugh. Gay marriage = economic defeat? Did California bring the rest of the United States down to RUINS?! I hate Californian's anyway. <sarcasm>
Am I the only one finding his fallable logic sickeningly amusing? If I never heard any statements previous to this, I'd almost suggest he should do comedy on his radio show.
I liked the "mocking fetuses" part. It's so difficult to fit the fetus mocking into the wedding ceremony itself. My partner and I chose to have the fetus mocking station in the receiving line, between his parents and mine. "so nice of you to come to the wedding... would you like to mock the fetus?" "Apparently the boys are planning on bringing about the destruction of the global economy, right after they get back from their honeymoon." "Really? I heard they were just planning on painting the den."