Quinn to artist who submitted pro-impeachment Christmas ornament to White House: "Shut up, bitch"
In a discussion of Deborah Lawrence, an artist who submitted an ornament for the White House Christmas tree expressing support for a congressional resolution to impeach President Bush, Rose Tennent read a quote from Lawrence, who said of the attention surrounding her ornament: "It took on a life of its own, obviously. In a way, I'm speechless." Tennent responded: "Good, stay that way. Don't talk," to which co-host Jim Quinn added, "That's right, don't talk. Shut up, bitch."
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On the December 3 broadcast of The War Room, co-host Rose Tennent read from an article about Deborah Lawrence, an artist who submitted an ornament for the White House Christmas tree celebrating, among other things, Rep. Jim McDermott's (D-WA) support for a resolution to impeach President Bush. Tennent read a quote from the article in which Lawrence said of the attention surrounding her ornament: "It took on a life of its own, obviously. In a way, I'm speechless." Tennent responded: "Good, stay that way. Don't talk," to which co-host Jim Quinn added, "That's right, don't talk. Shut up, bitch."
According to The Washington Post, first lady Laura Bush "asked members of Congress to pick local painters" to decorate ornaments for the White House Christmas tree. McDermott "contacted a local arts organization, which asked Lawrence, a collage artist, to create the local entry."
Media Matters for America has documented that Quinn previously introduced a segment on Sen. Hillary Clinton by playing Elton John's "The Bitch is Back." Additionally, on October 7, Quinn asserted that Rep. Nancy Pelosi, whom he referred to as "the Queen Bee," "hated" Clinton "because she didn't want Hillary to be the most important woman in Washington," adding, "I'm sorry, but it seems to be the nature -- I shouldn't say the nature of all women -- but it seems to be a trait that flows through, for whatever reasons, the gender, if you will." Quinn has also stated that to feminists, even "a childless feminist who looks like a Bulgarian weightlifter in drag" can be a "real woman," and has repeatedly referred to the National Organization for Women as "the national organization for whores."
Talkers Magazine lists Quinn & Rose among its "Heavy Hundred," which it describes as the "100 most important radio talk show hosts in America." According to the show's website, it airs on 18 radio stations and XM Satellite Radio.
From the December 3 broadcast of Clear Channel's The War Room with Quinn & Rose:
QUINN: She needs something --
TENNENT: She sounds frightening.
QUINN: -- to become gainfully employed somewhere doing something for her fellow man besides this.
TENNENT: Argh. Yup, that's right. So, anyway, so she thought that she was making a very brave statement -- turns out that the White House has decided that, "You know what, don't think that's appropriate, we're not gonna hang it on the Christmas tree." So, but you know what? They have a luncheon -- I didn't know this -- for all of the artists, then -- a Christmas luncheon. Guess what? She jumped on the plane and flew to D.C. -- D.C. to go to the luncheon.
QUINN: Oh yeah --.
TENNENT: Yeah, she's there.
QUINN: She's there for the free meal.
TENNENT: Can you believe it?
QUINN: She's probably homeless and lives out of a shopping cart.
TENNENT: I just think that's a shame -- that's a shame.
QUINN: Well, you know --
TENNENT: Well, she said -- oh, she said, "An artist doesn't always get this kind of attention." This is the artist speaking.
QUINN: Yeah, 'cause they're hardly ever that stupid.
TENNENT: Plus, like, you're weird. Like, now I'm starting to think that there's something really wrong with you. That's the attention you're getting right now, sweetie. She said, "It took on a life of its own, obviously. In a way, I'm speechless." Good, stay that way. Don't talk.
QUINN: That's right, don't talk. Shut up, bitch.
TENNENT: She said, "It's disappointing that I won't get to see it on the tree." And did you think you would?
QUINN: Yeah, you know, I'll tell you what. There's -- there's always Photoshop. You know, you could take a picture of it and --
TENNENT: She's an artist. She can figure all of that out, right?
QUIINN: Sure. Take a picture of the White House tree, put your little ball on it --
TENNENT: Yeah.
QUIINN: -- put it up on the morning of December 25th -- you know, the winter solstice celebration -- and I'm sure you'll have a great time with it.
I blame the rap music.
You forgot, Winter Solstice is actually on the 21st of December. Isn't that little holiday called Christmas on the 25th? The man can't even get simple facts straight, although I'm sure what he was trying to do here is to portray this woman as some sort of anti Christian zealot simply because she thinks Bush should be impeached. Turns out though, she's not the only person who believes this.
36-45% of Americans (in 2007) believed Bush should be impeached.
Clinton, only 25% thought that he should be impeached in 1998. Funny, that's about the same approval rating Bush has now. So I guess we know who wanted the impeachment, only the hard core Republican base.
It's funny - they are scared of a Christmas tree bulb.
Oh the hilarity of it all!
My cat loves the Christmas tree ornaments. She climbs the tree every year, tries to nestle in the boughs. She plays with the ornaments, bats them about as if they were her toys. My cat is even braver than these two!
If ever there was a topic that these two know less than nothing about, it's balls.
"That's right, don't talk. Shut up, bitch."
Yea, Quinn...and she's probably a lesbian, too. Maybe she needs a manly man like you to beat some sense into her... ;>)
MEMO TO QUINN: Check your calendar, Jim...I think we're almost into 2009, not 1959.
Do you know what all battered women have in common?
They JUST. DON'T. LISTEN! (slap back of hand to make point)
Think Quinn might appreciate a joke like that? Whatta scumbag.
"That's right, don't talk. Shut up, bitch."
Yea, Quinn...and she's probably a lesbian, too. Maybe she needs a manly man like you to beat some sense into her... ;>)
MEMO TO QUINN: Check your calendar, Jim...I think we're almost into 2009, not 1959.
Oh please, what kind of dippy person sends a Christmas ornament to the White House on impeaching the president? If she didn't want the publicity, good or bad, she shouldn't have done it.
I agree, I would not have said what Quinn called her but this person is hateful. She hates Bush and wants publicity. This is the Christmas season and this disgusting piece of garbage is trying to get publicity by sending an impeachement ornament to a man who will be out of office in 5 weeks. Please like that are scum and vicious partisans. She is a true A hole.
A Christmas tree in the people's house should not be laced with cheap sleazy political statements, as in an ornament.
The woman has no class, or decorum.
I'm not usually one to correct grammar and punctuation Tommy but you have an unnecessary apostrophe.
It should read "A Christmas tree in the peoples house...".
Sorry, i thought you were saying that the "people's" were the president's family, but i see you meant all of us as the people's.
You were correct.
Yeah. How dare we use a public monument as a platform for free speech!
Of course she wanted publicity. She's an ARTIST. Nothing wrong with that, or what she did. I'm sure W. himself got a chuckle out of it. This has been made into WAY to big a deal.
Yeah, she's the true A hole. Not the guy who led his country into a senseless war that cost over 4500 American lives, or abused the power of his office by ignoring existing FISA laws, or incurred the largest national debt in history, or borrowed more foreign money than all previous presidents combined, or imposed domestic spying and torture. The guy who will probably be known as the worst president ever, he's not the A hole. It's artists who send impeachment ornaments - THOSE are the A holes we need to watch out for...
Then tell the President Elect to visit these issues, bring it up with the new leader. Ask the Presdent Elect why he is keeping a friend of the Bush family as Def Secretary.
Yes the artist is the ahole, she is not a artist , she is a lowlife slimeball.
That includes a non-sequitur and makes absolutely no sense.
I will ignore it.
You can ignore what you want, keep your eyes closed in the partisan world you live in. If you do not accept other peoples views we are in for another rough 4 years. I think we will be ok because the President Elect is willing to work with Republicans unlike scum like this so called "artist" and other partisan hate groups.
what if "other people's views" are wrong? as those who support bush's policies have been?
Well exactly, Casey blasts "scum like this so-called 'artist'," without a word about the many high crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush administration. The artist simply voiced her opinion that impeachment hearing were warranted. So waaah.
I was one of a 1000 artists, nationwide, to make a xmas ornament for the White House xmas tree back in 1993. It was a laminated exotic wood candy cane. In retrospect, it should have been a lollipop. I don't know what the rules are now for tree ornaments in the big house but, I think what she did was right-on. She was making a statement and that is what this country is all about. I would have sent a brain sandwich. Pehaps this would improve bush's ability to think.
It was by invitation only and I got a signed xmas card from the Clintons
poor w. sniff sniff, sob sob. how dare anyone criticiize him.
Please be critical , he has made numerous blunders. But there is a difference between being critical and just plain hateful. It also can hurt the President Elect.
i see. so someone who makes an ornament as a protest is "scum", but that's not hateful.
Exactly.
so you can call people "scum" but others are forbidden even a political protest. whatever you say.
What is hateful about calling for the accountability authorized by the Constitution for a Chief Executive who has ignored his oath of office, shredded said Constitution in numerous ways (some of which we don't even know about yet) and knowingly or unknowingly taken the country to war under false pretenses?
Notwithstanding your hateful remarks about her, right?
You're right, Tommy. A non-dippy person would have sent the more appropriate "impeachment advent calendar", with a sour grape in one of the windows.
I thought that MMFA was about conservitive misinformation, not conservitive potty mouths.
Only to the anal-retentive.
also to the copraphagichebraphrenics
I'm guessing sh*t for brains Monty.
big headed sh*t eaters
That scans well.
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Its something you can say easily, it flows. Where as mine doesn't.
"also to the" sh*t for brains, versis, "also to the bigheaded sh*t eaters." Brainers could've worked better for mine, but it is still a little strained to my sensibilities.
mghamma,
You're barking up the wrong tree. mmfa frequently stretches its mission statement and just quotes people on its sh!t list regardless of whether the quote furthers conservative misinformation. Once mmfa concludes that a media figure is conservative, it seems to believe that every comment by that individual is designed to further conservative ideology. . . . Thus, in mmfa's view, calling this self-aggrandizing 'artist' the B-word furthers conservative misinformation
It's ridiculous. MMFA has an issue with the "B" word, but apparently none with someone sending such an ornament to hang on the White House Christmas tree.
This is one thread where priorities are way out of whack.
God forbid if President Elect Obama gets in some sort of issue and a Conservative group rallys for his impeachment and a conservative nut wants to hang an impeachment ornament on the White house christmas tree in 2011. Then Keith Olbermann or some partisan jerk on the left says to shut up "B" to the conservative. Would MMFA have an issue with that ? No. It has nothing to do with conservative misinformation , it has to do with this low life person and MMFA and hateful far left liberal groups trying to embarrass President Bush with 5 weeks left in office. These people are disgusting. Outright disgusting.
Thankfully President Elect Obama is not listening to these scum, he is being a genuine leader and saying the right things to stop the partisan nonsense.
i agree the white house has every right to refuse this. but where does mmfa say they have to hang the ornament. guess i missed that.
I think I missed that too, i was not aware I was even implying that.
you seemed to be agreeing with tommy and he was clearly saying mmfa should have come down on the person sending it. if you disagree with tommy, then say so.
I do not agree with Tommy , MMFA should not be critical of the nutjob that sent the ornament, she thankfully is not a member of the media, she is just a hateful excuse for a person.
why is she "hateful"? she made a statement. you're far more concerned about her little bit of nothing than the damage bush inflicted on this country. maybe you need to reexamine your priorities.
She is hateful because with 5 weeks left whe wants to impeach Bush and damaage the Presidency. We have too much work to do in the upcoming Obama administration to be dealing with partisans who want to stop the nations business and divide us even more.
i don't think she really expected he would get impeached. it's a statement. get a grip.
And Quinn responded with a statement. get a grip.
yes, a statement that she's a bitch because she has an opinion and you called her scum. looks like the nonpartisanship you're calling for only extends to what you believe.
I think Bush is a terrible President but I think this lady is a lowlife . It is not a political issue but a mental one.
what maes her a low life? The fact that she had an opportunity to make a statement or the fact she is an artist? Pehaps she should have sent a dingleberry pie with some plastic forks.
somehow, this lady is a lowlife, scum, and bitch, because she had the audacity to make a protest by saying impeach bush. my, let's write miss manners. and here's her response:
gentle poster, surely you can not be so naive as to see that the artist meant this as a protest. perhaps your ire would be better aimed at the president, who continues to lie, even doing it this week, about the fact that he claimed saddam would not let the inspectors in, so he had to invade.
This woman is a "low life" in the same way that the right was all about Cindy Sheehan being a low life, for, you know, wanting accountability for her son's death.
From what I have read about the ornament, it was commissioned to show things about home state. Her representative had supported a move for impeachment (I believe it was some time ago - not with 5 weeks left) and she wished to recognize that with this - "America cannot regain its moral leadership in the world if America cannot hold its leaders accountable for their actions at home," the text reads. "Without accountability, a Democracy will fail.". She also had lots of other things on there including a nod to the 1919 general strike in Seattle.
And that quote was lifted from an actual resolution to impeach...
she evidently thought this thru. This does NOT make her a low life, scumbag or nutjob. If I were commisioned to do this, I would hae to say: Kentucky: the home of fast women and beautiful horses. and The Blue Grass state. Sold by the joint, Oz. or pound.
Thankfully President Elect Obama is not listening to these scum
Thankfully, indeed. Right wing radio is a total waste of time.
Right wing radio is a waste of time, i was talking about the left wing radical groups who want Bush impeached with 5 weeks left.
Is it possible to retroactively impeach him? If so, wait 6 weeks. If Cinton can be dragged thru the mud so can babybush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Better late than never.
Is Olbermann in the habit of calling women "bitches" on his show.
I don't recall that he has, but i could be wrong.
Not that I am aware of, I could of used Rachel Maddow also as an example.
Rachel Maddow likewise never calls women "bitches" on her show. Not sure where you're going with that.
('I could "HAVE" used...')
Of course she doesnt. I could have used any left wing name was my point. Not sure what your point is other than more bombthrowing?
The point is that it's right wing blowhards in the media who call women the b word. So your hypothetical does not work.
Right wing blowhards, left wing haters they are all the same. But only partisans refuse to accept that.
"Right wing blowhards, left wing haters they are all the same."
No, Casey, they're not even close to being the same. A blowhard is easily recognized and defined by what he does, namely express him or herself in an hyperbolic manner. Motivation is irrelevant.
A hater, on the other hand, must be self-identified as such, by either statements or actions which leave no other interpretation, because hatred is a motivation. You are judging the artist to be a "hater" because... well I don't really know, because that goes to your motivation. It doesn't seem logical to me, because there are a number of possible motivations for her actions that have nothing to do with hate. She might have thought it was funny. It might have been meant to praise her local politician. She might have been trying to see if she could sneak someting rather outrageous past Laura. Or, she might have been motivated by Patriotism, and a commitment to our Constitution and rule of law. How do you know it wasn't any of the above?
Speaking of Olbermann, I read on the internet (so it's pretty much irrefutable) that KO doesn't vote because he thinks it will affect his objectivity. Is that true? That guy's really a closed book . . . so hard to tell who he was pulling for last election.
I Bush isn't embarassed by now I don't think this ornament is going to make much of a difference.
RE "God forbid if President Elect Obama gets in some sort of issue and a Conservative group rallys for his impeachment and a conservative nut wants to hang an impeachment ornament on the White house christmas tree in 2011"
Are you INSANE? Some cons have been pushing for an obama assasination! And it's not "The white house" christmas tree. It belongs to US, and I bet that more than a third of us support IMPEACHMENT.
Were you talking like this when clinton was impeached? Something tells me you weren't.
Also, what would you know about art anyway?
how the F do you know what I was talking about in regard to President Clintons impeachment? for your f'en information, I believe that President Clinton was targeted by a hateful right wing , which i detest. Just because I think this lady is wrong does not mean I support Bush. Grow up people, why so partisan? I love my country first before a partisan cause. God you are an idiot.
Springs, unwind a little... How many ornaments were sent in 1000? And one is singled-out because it displeases some radicals for Bush. How many were put on this tree that were in favor our beloved President, 999? Before these two jagoffs have any comments why don't they do some research..WHY don't they, because they hate too much to even think about fairness.
And who the hell are you to berate this woman...you don't even know her name or the exact contents of the ornament..Once again, unwind, it is the Xmas season.
P.S. Radio Rosie, you are still a phony Christian..and Quinn, you humped around with Jeff Christie a little too much.
gosh buddy, here's a big ol' towel to wipe away those crocodile tears! it just breaks my heart to see you so hurt. ok, i lied, i don't give two nanny goat sh*ts.
bush is a putz. worse, he's a lying putz, who's lying putzery has cost untold lives. he should consider himself fortunate that the ornament only said he should be impeached, rather than tarred, feathered and run out of DC on a rail.
Well, this just strikes me as tabloid journalism, and really doesn't belong here. Stick with exposing the conservitive lies. It's not like there's any shortage.
As usual the right supports free speech only when they agree with it. When Rose & Quinn start calling for Obama's impeachment (which will probably be around February) they should expect a chorus of 'Shut up, bitch."
In that case, since mmfa seems to be in the business of monitoring abrasive language on the airways, as distinguished from conservative misinformation, I guess we'll be seeing the "chorus" reported on here as well
I've seen at least two posters claim that MMFA "has a problem with the 'B'word". It says "bitch" right in the headlne, so it's obviously not just the word. Go a little deeper, to the idea behind the sentence containing that word.
Well I was actually thinking of the chorus coming from listeners (including those who listen via the internet.)
You first, Jimbo.
When are these guys going to remember??? Their side lost the election!!!!! Maybe they should think of why. It's a lot more than having a lousy top of the ticket!!!
I think this impeachment ornament was totally appropriate and tasteful. I love peaches, and they are a real treat at Christmas.
Mmmmmmm...
Love your visuals, Col. Now isn't that sweet? Much lovelier than that b*tch talk.
Yum!
My hate horse loves peaches.
I try to eat a peach everytime I go over to my girlfiends house. Not so fond of the cream though.
you have a girlfiend? Does she scream at you? A steep price to pay for peaches.
Just kiddin ya.
hi mary. sometimes she screams at me just because I am a man. no real reason. she can be a beoche sometimes but I have never told her to shut up or yelled at her or hit her. I am the perfect man. I treat her like a customer: she is always right.
I've had a few girlfiends- best typo since "goof food", yesterday I think.
I just realized what I did. My keyboard is in the dark. I have had some of those as well:girlfiends
The level of vulgarity from these individuals is beyond imagination. I don't know if I should thank MMFA for introducing me to this kind of low-class bar-room tripe or curse them for it. Just to be aware of all the hateful talk-radio maniacs makes me weep for my fellow human beings. There are obviously millions of Americans who get their "information" from these screaming low-lifes and Faux "News" and that forms a base that can influence opinions and therefore elections. When is Sarah Palin getting her own show?
OB,
I could care less about the ornament or what it said. I rank it right down there with celebrity gossip. What a waste of space.
The coarsening of language in (un)civil discourse.It has been going down for quite some time now and not just here. Frankly, I think that is a barometer of our culture. The vitriol, as you well know, seems to be in every other post on this webstie.
However the First Amendment protects it. In my opion vitriol lowers the level of conversation. To me it is synonymous with shouting. It is boorish. Discussion boards should be places to discuss ideas and not places where people, emboldened by their anonymity, spew childlike insults.
Unfortunately we live in such a world. It is up to each of us to raise the level of communication. It is far more interesting to discuss ideas surrounding events and personalities. The best discussions are when people of good will disagree. The rest is simply drivel.
Thanks AA I agree with you on that.
Oh F you! =>
I may not have been clear, I don't have a knee jerk reaction to foul language, it just seems on this thread it's dispropportionate to the topic at hand. In some cases scum and a-hole work. I have a problem with bitch as that tends to be used in a sexist manner.
cRAP "music" is partially to blame. Blow back from right wing dogma and propaganda is another and the fact that sometimes it is a good way to make a point.
I don't hear a lot of conservative talk, but I have occasionally happened onto Quinn and Rose via my satellite radio. They are more heinous and hate-filled than I ever imagined anyone being.
This is why you shouldn't allow religious props on public property. God forbid we ever really elect a muslim or a jew, imagine the rage from the right if they don't get their cherished x-mas tree in the white house because a president of a different religion decides to use his traditional trappings...
I've hated this since the 70's, when Don Imus was this foul-mouthed nasty DJ, and Howard Stern was interviewing hookers on the radio and going on and on about bl*w jobs. I just about stopped listening to AM radio in New York.
Completely independent of politics, I am so sick of rrradio becoming a cesspool I can't stand it.
How have our public airwaves become a place where the host of a radio show can say 'shut up. bitch" about somebody?
Who on earth gave this stupid, arrogant vulgarian the license to spew filth on the airwaves? What does it say about our society that he's allowed to make a vicious personal attack on another person with impunity?
I don't care whether it's about Linsey lohan, Jose Canseco, or Rose Tennent. This is behavior I would deck someone for If i heard it in a restaurant or a bar--and yet it's OK on our airwaves.
Radio has simply become a cesspool. Right-wing talk is not the only source, but it's the biggest. I'm sick of what the medium has turned into, and I'm not alone.
pbg,
It's not just talk radio. Take a look at what spills forth in these forums.
Meh, the profanity filters keep out anything PG. We all have our own sensitive spots, AA.
While you seem to get the vapors at a little mild name-calling (even if well-deserved) included in a comment, I'm more offended at dishonesty (lying, plagiarizing, promoting propaganda through feigned-innocence and passive aggressive "jokes").
But we don't know anybody with a history of engaging in those things, do we? ;0)
(you've got something in your eye)
vulgarity is killing people and getting people killed with lies. bush is one of the most vulgar people in existence over the last 8 years. Pol bushpot
or potbush. take your pick. I think the shoe fits
I really don't know what this schmuck Quinn's problem is, but he sure seems to be a misogynist of the first order. From what I've observed, men like this are simply terrified of strong women -- got a little castration anxiety, sir?