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Rush Limbaugh: Who's really calling the shots?

January 29, 2009 3:30 pm ET

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When you make a $10 contribution to Media Matters for America, we'll send you a "Rush Limbaugh Doesn't Speak for Me" bumper sticker. We'll use your contribution to fight against Rush Limbaugh and other conservative smear merchants.

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    • Author by chucko (January 29, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
         

      Gloria Borger said on CNN last night that 30 House republicans were mildly considering voting for the Recovery package but House minority leaders got them to change their minds - and none of them voted for the legislation,

      Point is, Republican leaders like Boehner and Cantor got the Republicans to vote 100% against the Recovery bill, NOT Rush Limbaugh. They don't need and MM has no proof that his input and wishes for Obama and Congress's legislation to fail had a major affect on the Republicans that voted against what those extremely conservative members see as a bloated $800 billion bill that has too little Bush-like tax cuts and too much spending - even if Phil Gingrey does kiss Rush's ass and let's the whole world know.  

      You guys at Media Matters do great work, but cut-and-pasted the Rush clip to make it look like he said he hoped Obama fails as president when he was simply speaking out against the House democratic-written bill by saying "I don't want this to work."  The "I hope he fails" remark means Rush hopes Obama's attempt at pushing the Economic Recovery bill fails, not that he wishes Obama to fail as president.  You guys should know better.

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      • Author by harley (January 30, 2009 8:39 am ET)
           
        Drugbaugh wants Obama and"liberalism" to fail because 1) it would prove he's been wrong his entire life, and 2) because he has utter contempt for America.    If Obama's so-called "liberal" plan(s) actually make America bigger, better, and stronger, Drugbaugh rather see America fail because his entire life would be proved to be a failure.  Drugbaugh rather score political points then see America succeed.  There is nothing more anti-American than stating you hope a president fails.  This is utterly disgusting, no matter how you spin it.  
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      • Author by RABBITLUVR (January 30, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
           

        Hey Chucko, you want to explain why Rep. Gingrey smooched Limpy's ass so heavily after his 'back off' remark? Think that it didn't have anything to do with the dittohead army melting the Rep's phone lines with outrage over that remark by any stretch, would it?

        Limpy not having any influence? Please... just pull your head out of your ass, all right? Limpy is the leader of the Republican party, period.

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        • Author by chucko (January 30, 2009 11:24 pm ET)
             

          Since your head is apparently up your butt that you can't read straight, let me spell it out for you. 177 already deeply conservative Republican House members don't need to think about Rush when deciding whether or not to vote against a huge democratic spending bill!  And there's no proof they did get marching orders from Rush, even if losers like Phil Gingrey consider him a leader of the conservative movement.  (Saying so is a bit like saying/assuming the 244 House dems voting yes on the stimulus bill took marching orders from top liberal-leaning talk radio hosts like Rachel Maddow or talking heads like Keith Olbermann).

          The House leadership was the deciding factor for those 177 Republican sheep, not Rush Limbaugh. From the AP 1/27/08: "[A]ccording to officials who were present at a GOP meeting, none of the Republicans in attendance spoke up in disagreement when urged to oppose the legislation by their leaders. Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, the party's leader, and Eric Cantor of Virginia, the second in command, said they wanted "100 percent" opposition to the measure, which they argue includes billions in wasteful spending, these officials said."

          Again, unless you can prove Rush influenced Cantor and Boehner to get 100% opposition against the Recovery bill, you're wrong.  None of the 177 said, "Gee Rush, I'm up in the air on this. What should we do, vote for the democrats' $800 billion spending bill or against?"  They are already loyal partisans in that part of the House. And they proved it with their 100% opposition vote.  Rush is probably thrilled but in no way is taking credit, nor should he.

          Rush will always be against what he sees as liberal policies and hope they fail and then hope that Republican/free market principles get a chance again to solve our problems. That's his logic, folks, as delusional as it sounds given that the dems are in charge and that the stimulus bill the Republicans voted against had some Republican input and Reagan-like provisions (ie. the Earned Income Tax Credit). This is how Rush and his ilk think and will always think, no matter what the economic circumstances and truth of legislations are.

          Rush is so delusional right now that he doesn't think the current economy is as bad as it was in 1982! So naturally he thinks that in a year or two, Obama's supposed liberal policies will fail - which is what he meant by saying "I hope he fails" - so badly that the midterm elections will punish congressional democrats enough to force Obama to govern to the center or right (like Clinton after 1994's midterms), meaning more Bush/Reagan-ish policies. Again, that's not logical thinking, it's just Rush Limbaugh logic.   Deal with it (with logic and accuracy) and move on. Let him howl into the wind all he wants. Him and his delusional BS won't matter in the end.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (January 29, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
         
      I don't know about the sticker... I have dittoheads in my family
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      • Author by worrierking (January 30, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
           

        I think we all have friends and family with differing views on every subject imaginable.

        The trick is to be able to defend your views in  discussions and to be respectful of their views and hopefully, they'll give you the same respect. 

        You'll be surprised. In fact you might even be able to influence them and bring them over to your side.

         

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (January 29, 2009 5:19 pm ET)
         
      Chuko envisions a world where the failure of the stimulus package wouldn't affect Obama in a terminal way. Where the media noise machine would just say too bad about that, better luck with your next idea.
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      • Author by chucko (January 29, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
           

        Actually, I envision a world where a mix of fiscal responsibility, pragmatic economical and liberal-leaning ideas help fix this economy. Will that happen? It's anybody's guess. 

        I wish Rush (and leading democrats, regarding fiscal responsibility) would realize center-left policies are the way to go but he never will, so he's free to say liberalism and too much government intervention will fail all he wants, since this is a free country. Most of the time Rush is indefensible, but this time, let's not cut his words off to say or imply he hopes Obama fails at his job entirely.  All that does is give legitimacy to right-wing critics who believe MMFA is a spin machine. If you STILL don't believe Rush's "hope" about Obama was philosphically-oriented as opposed to personal, read Rush's flawed but still worth reading (so-called "bi-partisan") approach to getting out a recession here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123318906638926749.html

         

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        • Author by Disputed Zone (January 29, 2009 6:42 pm ET)
             

          Right, Limbaugh wants Obama to fail for philosophical, not personal reasons. If Obama were to govern as a far right loon, the way we’ve been governed for the last several years with disastrous results, the way that voters have thoroughly rejected, Limbaugh wouldn’t have a problem.

          That’s quite a distinction you’ve made there, Chucko.

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        • Author by magnolialover (January 29, 2009 7:37 pm ET)
             
          Mr. Limbaugh (by his own words) is an entertainer first, and a conservative second. I don't see economist in there. He has no valid ideas for how to get us out of a recession. Essentially, Limbaugh wants the recession to fix itself, that whole free market gee whiz thing.
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          • Author by DAWUSS (January 29, 2009 7:56 pm ET)
               

            Limbaugh asked this question back when Tom Daschle called him "a big entertainer":

            If he's simply a "big entertainer," why is everyone in the media coming after only him and not the other "big entertainers?"

             

            I seriously don't see Limbaugh as a "big entertainer" -- too many people take him too seriously for that.

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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 29, 2009 9:49 pm ET)
                 
              Exactly.  Why is MMfA devoting bandwidth to Rush if he is "just an entertainer"?  
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (January 30, 2009 12:01 am ET)
         
      Well as the defacto head of the republican party he does deserve attention. Even if it is a group of clowns, these clowns have teeth and a hunger to feast on democratic blood.
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    • Author by drlava (January 30, 2009 6:38 am ET)
         
      To put Limbaughs name on a bumper  sticker is playing right into his grand scheme.His narcissism is total.His listeners are old and dying off.  If no one in the "liberal" media said one word about him for a year he would be a distant memory.  At this point the "liberal" media WORKS for Limbaugh.
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    • Author by habodabi (January 30, 2009 6:41 am ET)
         
      Rush is a total blowhard mouthpeice of the republican smear machine. I think he's blubbering and talks over himself too much. He starts to spout then jumps to a different train of thought before he finishes his sentence. It makes me crazy to listen to him for any length of time.
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    • Author by vitodanelli8774 (January 30, 2009 8:52 am ET)
         
      There may be "blowback" to this effort by MediaMatters. Rush may counter with a bumper sticker campaign of his own against the "liberal media".

      MediaMatters should do video/audio clips of Rush carrying water for Bush and the GOP. Highlight some of the more ridiculous things he said about the wonders and glories of the Bush Tax Cuts. I remember one show when he was gushing about all the revenue the fabled Tax Cuts provided the Treasury: "They have so much money; they don't know what to do with it."

      MediaMatters may want to consider having a special section devoted to highlighting the inaccuracies and inconsistencies Rush says, especially the free passes he gave Bush for eight years.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (January 30, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
         

      So this is what the Republican party has been reduced to...

      Um... all you people that come in here that consider yourselves Republican or conservative...

      I think it may be time for you guys and girls to come to terms with the obvious fact that your party has been taken over by a group of ideological zealots!

      I wish you all luck on trying to fix the party... but it most definitly won't happen as long as Rush is left on this pedesta...

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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 31, 2009 12:29 pm ET)
           

        Unlike the Dim party that has long been run by ideologues and demagogues...

        Will you wake up to that fact?  

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    • Author by zamfir273114 (January 30, 2009 9:57 pm ET)
         
      I think a lot of people hope socialism will fail. A lot of people still believe in free-enterprise, capitalism, hard work and the right to earn substantial amounts of money without having to pay more than our fair share in taxes.
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    • Author by canaanxing9025 (January 31, 2009 2:06 pm ET)
         

      A hypothetical:

      Chris Mattews (or insert your own cable news commentator) proclaims:

      "I hope the President fails. I will never agree with his policy to go to war with Iraq. I know this President, I have watched him. His goal is to set up  Republican rule for the next fifty years. He is doing so  by appealing to our worst instincts: fear and revenge. By appealling to our worst, he will dismantle the freedoms all Americans have come to cherish, and that are revered throughout the world

      Could you Imagine the fall out from that!

       My apology to Chris Matthews, who has shown himself to be a true patriot.

       

       

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    • Author by sigtek44bc1345 (January 31, 2009 8:30 pm ET)
         
      I'm simply amazed at the level of fear of Rush Limbaugh expressed by MMFA and it's followers. If what he says is of such consequence, then dispel what he says instead of holding him up to ridicule about his appearance or his personal life. MMFA and it's loyal minions are exhibiting the same behaviour that they deride Limbaugh for. If MMFA can't counter the opinions expressed by Limbaugh and MMFA sheeple can't do anything other than call him names and attack him personally, then limbaugh has won and will continue to thrive until then.
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    • Author by sigtek44bc1345 (January 31, 2009 8:40 pm ET)
         
      ..............and simply stating he is the defacto leader of the republican party is the same, tired rhetorical strawman the dems have been hoisting since Rush came on the scene in'88. He's an entertainer with a strong opinion and nothing more. To suggest he can bend or shape public ploicy is giving him far more credit than he deserves. "Don't fear the Rushman" as Buck Dharma would say.  
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