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Krugman squashes GOP stimulus talking points; asks of "completely crazy" GOP alternative package: "[H]ow much bipartisan outreach can you have when 36 out of 41 Republican Senators take their marching orders from Rush Limbaugh?"

February 06, 2009 11:45 am ET

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    • Author by ufleirx (February 06, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
         

      Again, if the GOP is so against spending to help the US they can do two things

      1) Don't take any money for their districts. Put your election where your mouth is -- but I am betting the situation is not going to approve on its own.

      2) Tell me where they were during the Bush administration, 12 billion just vanished in Iraq and they where all business as usual. I have no problem with someone be tight-fisted even if they are strangling the country's economy to prove a point. But to be so because you are the captain of the team anymore is childish.

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (February 06, 2009 1:59 pm ET)
           

        Don't take any money for their districts

        They can't go down that road.  Red states get proportionally more government aid then blue states.  They also have higher divorce rates, lower graduation rates, and higher Limbaugh-listening rates,

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    • Author by LuvLuLu (February 06, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
         

      The most egregious lie is said by those who say that this is a spending bill, like that's a bad thing, or an unworkable solution.

       

      What this economy needs is a government spending program. Krugman says that it needs to be even bigger than it is now.

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      • Author by shaggles (February 06, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
           
        I think Obama addressed that pretty well today when he said "What do you think a stimulus bill?"
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        • Author by carlileb5935 (February 07, 2009 10:20 pm ET)
             
          Yes but he was speaking to Congressional dems. He needs to take that speech and those jokes TO THE PEOPLE ! So why won't he?
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    • Author by Cannonball (February 06, 2009 1:41 pm ET)
         
      This is a great segment.  Joe Scarborough may be a GOP shill most of the time, but he let's Krugman talk.  By the time the rest of Joe's group have theri say and ask their slanted questions, Krugman has calmly and efficiently dismantled their entire premise and shown, with facts, how Obama's stimulus plan must be passed immediately, the several billion is "pork" notwithstanding.  The Dems won the election and the GOP needs to suck it up and let them have their programs.
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      • Author by harley (February 06, 2009 1:49 pm ET)
           
        I don't remember the exact quote, but Scarborough was ranting a few months ago about Krugman being a shrill, hateful, little man...or something to that effect.  
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        • Author by juliajayne (February 06, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
             

           Scarborough was ranting a few months ago about Krugman being a shrill, hateful, little man...or something to that effect.  

          That coming from a petulent, strident and shrill mouthpiece like Joe? I think he hates Krugman's intelligence is all.

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    • Author by harley (February 06, 2009 1:47 pm ET)
         

       

      The adults are in charge now.  The Democratic Party needs to focus on repairing 8 years of Republican failures while the GOP should just focus on flag pins, Oval Office dress codes, placating Drugbaugh, Obama's middle name, and keeping Joe-the-tax-evading-plumber in the spotlight.  Bi-partisanship with the radical right-wing will never work as long as they remain the tiny tent party that is too afraid to stand up to a fat, bloated, anti-American "entertainer" that wants America to fail.

       

       

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      • Author by peebs755 (February 06, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
           
        Don't say "the adults are in charge now". ;) Cheney said that in 2000, and it turned my stomach. They sure didn't act like adults for the next eight years. Nothing was ever their fault. they couldn't help it. A five year old takes more responsibility than the b bush administration did.
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      • Author by Dem02020 (February 06, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
           

        Republicans in the House and Senate right now, they need to either LEAD, FOLLOW, or GET OUT OF THE WAY on the stimulus spending.

        And seeing as the American People already deprived them of their wasted on Bush turn at leadership, they need to either really just FOLLOW or GET OUT OF THE WAY: there is no third option.

        I personally would prefer to see them GET OUT OF THE WAY, as I don't see how we really need their help much, putting out fires that they and Bush lit.

        LEAD, FOLLOW, or GET OUT OF THE WAY... or be investigated and maybe Indicted, and maybe go to jail: or just golden-parachute out of Congress... Republicans in Congress should GET OUT OF THE WAY.

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    • Author by peebs755 (February 06, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
         
      A spending bill IS a stimulus bill. That's how you get the stimulus. the government goes out and SPENDS money to STIMULATE the economy.The right wing is just being ridiculous. I have a friend whose a conservative. He's always railing about "earmarks". I try to explain to him that its not "earmarks" themselves that are bad. Its what the earmarks are for. He read that some Democratic Senator wanted to "earmark" some money for a program, and my friend went ballistic, beacause it was an "earmark". Once he found out what the moeny was for he was OK with it. I'll I could do was shake my head.
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    • Author by SMTDL (February 06, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
         

      Amen Brother ..finally somebody on a show doing a real counterpoint with some facts ..Thank You Mister Krugman.

      People actually believe tax cuts create jobs despite no evidence of that what so ever..even when the recent history under Bush is pointed put they say it changed when Democrats took over Congress in 2006 ..which was really only the House.Of course Bush found his veto pen at the bottom of the drawer under the rubber stamp so nothing changed in 2007 and Bush kept saying the Economy was stong until there was no choice(near the end of 2008).

      What is left other than spending since taxcuts haven't worked in better economic times.?

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      • Author by Jurgan (February 06, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
           
        Tax cuts can create jobs in certain circumstances, and they probably would in this case, but during an economic crisis direct government spending does more.  Also, it's easier to turn off when the economy recovers and we have to tackle the deficit- eventually, the spending programs are completed and we can stop spending, whereas re-raising taxes is much more difficult, politically speaking.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (February 06, 2009 10:11 pm ET)
             
          Can you name just ONE government spending bill that was stopped other than a party change in the White House?  
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