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Olbermann awards O'Reilly the "Worst Person" "runner-up" for comments about Spain, UPS

March 31, 2009 9:58 pm ET

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    • Author by carlileb5935 (March 31, 2009 10:52 pm ET)
         

      Isn't O' getting a little tedious here?

      And if he claims one more time that BOR defends rapists and kidnappers, or that his reporters "stalked" a woman who actually spoke with them, I'm gonna scream-- this from a guy who repeatedly called good-looking 20-year old girls sl**s.

      (MMFA won't let me quote Olbermann...)

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 31, 2009 10:54 pm ET)
           

        p.s. reference:

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/10/11/olbermann-gets-worst-pers_n_31456.html

        Plus Somerby, et. al.

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      • Author by clams casino (March 31, 2009 11:58 pm ET)
           

        "...this from a guy who repeatedly called good-looking 20-year old girls sl**s."

        As your link shows, that's a lie.

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      • Author by harley (April 01, 2009 12:20 am ET)
           

         

        O'Racist has defended pedophiles....on many accounts.  That's a fact and it's on the record.  O'Racist took the side of pedophiles that were caught in "to catch a predator"...he took the side of the pedophiles because NBC caught these creeps. On another account he claimed that Sean Hornbeck enjoyed his situtation...which was kidnapped and raped by an adult.  These are the facts.

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        • Author by fairliberal (April 01, 2009 12:37 am ET)
             
          Well where is the link?
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          • Author by magnolialover (April 01, 2009 8:52 am ET)
               
            Here are some:

            http://mediamatters.org/items/200701170009?f=s_search

            http://mediamatters.org/items/200702060010?f=s_search

            http://mediamatters.org/items/200702120007?f=s_search

            http://mediamatters.org/items/200608040004?f=s_search
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            • Author by fairliberal (April 01, 2009 9:06 am ET)
                 
              Once again, both the comments and the links are bogus , like most of your arguements.
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              • Author by harley (April 01, 2009 9:51 am ET)
                   

                 

                Reality once again evades faillibrulNo surprise what-so-ever.

                 

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                • Author by harley (April 01, 2009 10:00 am ET)
                     

                   

                  BTW, you forgot to screech, "he was taken of context!!!"

                   

                  Followed by, "his ratings are super awesome!!!!!"

                   

                  You're welcome for the help.

                   

                   

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              • Author by magnolialover (April 01, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
                   
                You asked for links. I gave them.

                Why are they bogus? What is wrong with them? I mean, since they either have a full transcript, or that handy video attached to them, what can you say is wrong with them or how can you call them bogus? I'm interested, because you asked for this, you got them, and then made no argument against them.

                My arguments are almost always backed up by facts, unlike your own.
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                • Author by fairliberal (April 01, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
                     
                  The links I requested were in response to harleys claim that O'Reilly defended pedophiles, there was no evidence of that in the links provided. And as far as the Hornbeck situation is not someone entitled to ask questions and propose opinions about a kidnapping situation. Have you never heard about cases where captives begin to identify with their abductors?

                  O'REILLY: The kidnapping of those two boys should be front-page news in your house if you have kids. I actually hope I'm wrong about Shawn Hornbeck. I hope he did not make a conscious decision to accept his captivity because Devlin made things easy for him. No school, play all day long.

                  What is so terribly wrong with that statement, as always you are brainwashed about O'Reilly and will grasp at anything to criticize him.

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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (April 01, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
               
            You clearly watch O'Reilly's show and you need a link to remind you what he said about Hornbeck?  Are you serious?
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        • Author by bfarmer75 (April 01, 2009 9:14 am ET)
             
          I don't agree with Bill O's comments at all but in no way does he support pedophiles.  That's completely absurd.  He's one of the biggest proponents of Jessica's Law and is constantly scrutinizing judges for letting pedophiles back on the streets. 
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          • Author by harley (April 01, 2009 9:55 am ET)
               

             

            O'Racist went on record and stated pedophiles were set-up and entrappedby NBC and Chris Hanswn.  O'Racist went on record and stated that a victim enjoyed being raped and kidnapped by a pedophile.  O'Racist defends pedophilia.  Fact.

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            • Author by fairliberal (April 01, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
                 
              http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209999,00.html and another http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/2005/08/foxs_bill_oreil.html and another http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,147904,00.html These are just a few of the stories he haas done on the subject, not to mention his work in getting liberal , progressive judges booted from the bench and exposing the soft sentences they hand out to pedophiles. But I know you libs don't believe in punishment for pedophiles.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (April 01, 2009 12:55 pm ET)
                   

                But I know you libs don't believe in punishment for pedophiles.

                Lying troll.

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              • Author by magnolialover (April 01, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
                   
                You're a moron. There is not one single person that I have ever met in my entire lifetime that would condone pedophiles. This is why you consistently lose debates on here, putting out great little tid bits of information like this. Because for some reason, we don't like O'Reilly, so we must really like pedophiles because he's against them (WOW! Way to take a stand on something Bill!! It's not as if being a pedophile is a "popular thing, but I digress).

                So by your insane efforts at reasoning, you must be FOR sexual harassment because O'Reilly has perpetrated that.
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                • Author by fairliberal (April 01, 2009 4:32 pm ET)
                     
                  No , you are the moron, the left consistently supports judges who are soft on pedophiles and O'Reilly has done much to publicize that and even assisted in getting sentences increased. And I don't lose debates, you debate with your mind and eyes closed .
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                  • Author by deeznuts (April 01, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
                       

                    Yes, yes. You're absolutely right. We liberals (and our judges) just love pedophiles. After we exonerate them of their charges, we have them over for tea and dumplings.

                    Don't be a troll.

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                    • Author by fairliberal (April 01, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
                         
                      Well , would you classify the judges in question as liberal or conservative judges.? And why is it acceptable for lefties to claim that O'Reilly defends pedophiles when he has clearly worked against them but not OK for someone like me to suggest that the left is soft on pedophiles when the evidence says that is true. Do you support the ACLU and their defense of NAMBLA for instance. Where did the opposition to Jessica's law come from, the right or the left? O'Reilly championed Jessica's law and exposed those who resisted it, is that not true? But still most of you will say he defends pedophiles.
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    • Author by Dem02020 (April 01, 2009 1:48 am ET)
         

      I'm not really following this nonsense, but from what little I'm seeing of it, is UPS an element of the story because they withdrew sponsorship from o'reilly's Fox show?

      If so, then that strikes me on two fronts:

      One, it sure is power, the power of the sponsor, isn't it? And that power descends to us, as the lifeblood of all businesses, our consumer dollars being the lifeblood of their revenues and profits.

      And two, it sure is a dose of this guy o'reilly's own medicine, isn't it? I mean, isn't this the Boycott Guy, who wants to boycott France and Spain and who knows who else that he opposes, for whatever craven reason?

      I mean, if UPS withdrew their sponsorship from his show, aren't they simply boycotting him?

       Again, I don't know if I'm understanding this correctly, because I don't really care.

      But if if the UPS element to the story is as I just described it, then it's kind of funny, and interesting too: the power of the boycott, and how the Great Boycotter got a taste of his own medicine!

      And if I'm misunderstanding the UPS element to the story, then good, because as I said I really don't care.

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    • Author by bfarmer75 (April 01, 2009 9:01 am ET)
         

      Olbermann will never be credible as long as he keeps attacking OReilly.  4 of 5 nights Bill O is on the list of 'Worst person' and occasionally will dedicate a full segment on attacking him just as he did earlier this week as his #1 story after Bill made a big deal about his show being #1 for 100 months. 

      KO is obsessed with this guy and it's getting old.  He makes himself look jealous and whiney.  When will he move on and report real news.  He is even still hung up on Bush with his segment 'Still Bushed.'

      KO has the ability to be relevant but I don't think it will happen until he stops trying to elicit comments from Bill. He's wasting his time.  Please stop and be relevant. Grow up and quit acting like a buffoon.

      And try voting next time, maybe people will take you more seriously.

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      • Author by TheDayV (April 01, 2009 9:45 am ET)
           

        Olbermann's 'obsession' with O'Reilly is not poorly placed. O'Reilly represents an inability amoungst his viewers to see the world in any measure of sophistication. Part of his appeal is that he boils everything down to black or white, up or down, or good or bad. At the same time, he's a strong user of peer pressure. He says "C'mon" a lot when he's speaking with someone who disagrees with him in order to diminish the worth of their position in, at least, the eyes of his viewers. His "Talking Points Memos" aren't news: they're instructions.

        Those of you that would say that O'Reilly's a tool of the Republicans, or some conservative bunch mixed in with Fox News, should remember that O'Reilly's ego takes primacy of place. And his ego dictates that his position is the right one. His ego is supported only by the fact that people listen to him. That's why he became a journalist.

        Pay attention to his commentaries. Pay attention to his interviews. Watch the Glick video. Watch the Geraldo-and-immigration video. Everything he says is designed create a sense that if you don't agree with him, you're an idiot AND you're a loser. Now, the design is poor, granted. However, his simplified version of the day's events attracts an audience that is simple enough to fall victim to his peer pressure.

        Remember the kids at school that hung around with the bully for reasons you couldn't understand? That's Bill O'Reilly's audience. Someone like Olbermann should be around to knock O'Reilly on his ass and let the kids that hang around with him know that he's not so tough or smart as he says.

        That being said, Olbermann's performance here is still something with which anyone could (and maybe should) take issue. Olbermann, along with anyone else that did, was right to point out the ethical mess that is O'Reilly's involvement in the Foundation. However, the line between 'keeping the pressure on' and 'milking it' is a fine one.

        Olbermann's donation to the foundation should never have made it out of his mouth on air. It smacks of abuse. Olbermann came dangerously close to sounding like he was using a donation to a rape-victim foundation to further his own feud with O'Reilly. It was unprofessional at least and he should clear the air and apologize for it.

        O'Reilly wouldn't.

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        • Author by bfarmer75 (April 01, 2009 10:26 am ET)
             

          It's nice to have someone state their points without attacking. 

          I do agree with several of your points.  I do agree that he does fly off the handle should you not agree with his pov.  That drives me nuts sometimes and feels it takes away from the interview or debate.  That said, I really like BO and I like his passion. It's absurd to think anyone would agree 100% with someone like him.  I don't trust anyone who thinks their favorite media personality or political affiliation is infallible.  That's intellectual dishonesty.

          Great point about KO's disclosure of his charity donation.  Completely tasteless.  I hope his donation was an honest one and not driven for his own personal gain, otherwise, why boast about it?  I'd like to know when he made his donation.

          This isn't even a debate, KO vs. BO or liberals vs. Fox news.  It's become nonsense, namecalling, lying, strawman tactics, and ad hominems.  On both sides.

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          • Author by TheDayV (April 01, 2009 11:41 am ET)
               

            Hang on.

            Bill O'Reilly's passion is for himself. It's not for truth or justice or fairness. That's why he flaunts his ratings.

            Remember, I said he represents an inability amongst his audience to see the world through anything but the most simple of lenses. He ignores context, prevents debate and maintains simplicity at the cost of truth. He attracts a less-sophisticated audience and has to maintain that simplicity, if not focus it, in order to keep them around. He represents an inherent problem of the mass media: The people will consume that which makes them feel better rather than that which will be better for them. Today's world cannot allow for the kind of ignorance off of which he thrives. If he's going to make a (good) living off of encouraging stupidity, then he'd better be prepared for people like Olbermann heaping the injustice of it on him.

            Also, Olbermann's constant picking at O'Reilly is not that with which I took issue. I took issue with his latest performance. It was a sloppy play that could have caused collateral damage and better should be expected of him.

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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (April 01, 2009 12:10 pm ET)
           
        STILL hung up on Bush?  Is that a joke?  As if G-Dub and the aftermath of his many messes are no longer relevant?  Wow.  I find that kind of belief two months into the new presidency remarkable.
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    • Author by bfarmer75 (April 01, 2009 9:33 am ET)
         
      Keith Olbermann really has no substance at all.  When you click on his name under 'media personalities' on this website, the majority of the entries are his 'Worst Person' segment.  That's all he has.  It's amazing all the hate filled comments towards Bill O yet the majority of these people love KO...it doesn't make sense.
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      • Author by Übermensch (April 01, 2009 9:42 am ET)
           
        which proves that by MMFA standards, he isn't spreading conservative lies and misinformation. Therefore he must be saying SOMEthing right
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      • Author by harley (April 01, 2009 9:54 am ET)
           
        Bill O'Racist really has no substance at all. When you click on his name under 'media personalities' on this website, the all of the entries are attacking and smearing the Left.  That's all he has.  It's amazing all the hate filled comments towards Left and democracy yet the ALL the people that love O'Racist hate America...it doesn't make sense.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (April 01, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
           
        Olbermann has not substance, but you like O'Reilly?
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (April 01, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
           
        I have to ask.  Which segments do you find particularly substantive (and more so than say Olbermann's special comments)?  The constant segments with Dennis Miller or the body language "expert"?
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        • Author by JamesCraven8209 (April 01, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
             
          Or was it the ones with bikini babes?  Fixed Noise is too much Pirate Rupert and Jabba the Hutt covering their ears and saying "Lalalalalalalalalalalalalala" to understand the real story.
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