Cavuto and Beck discuss how "left-wing organizations like Media Matters" are "angry... at us for covering these protests"
April 09, 2009 5:57 pm ET
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Beck hit it.. they are saying somethng right. otherwise MMfA and the other liberal hit squad woudn't have their panties in such a knot. and the point made about the left feeling the need that protests need coordinators and "action committes" is definitely right on the mark. Community organizers playing out their agenda with pot stirring versus a real grass roots movement by every day people who dont' hand in some 'agenda inspired" organization and don't drink the kool aid you people hand out (the drink is free but the tax will kill you) -before I thought it was only bad moonshine that made you go blind.
The comical part is that the majority of the Tea Baggers are actually benefiting under President Obama's tax plan.
The simple fact is that the Tea Bag events are nothing but an extension of the failed bin Palin/McGramps campaign. You whiners are angry because you lost, now you want to have a big corporate sponsored pity party. Pathetic and anti-American. It's going to be a loooooooooong 8 years for you reich-wingers.
Drink a nother long, cool draught of that kkkoolaid, it'sallaboutdee. That popular wave? A rightwing sponsored event:
Despite these attempts to make the “movement” appear organic, the principle organizers of the local events are actually the lobbyist-run think tanks Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works. The two groups are heavily staffed and well funded, and providing all the logistical and public relations work necessary for planning coast-to-coast protests:
This type of corporate ‘astroturfing‘ is nothing new to either organization. While working to promote Social Security privatization, Freedom Works was caught planting one of its operatives as a “single mom” to ask questions to President Bush in a town hall on the subject. Last year, the Wall Street Journal exposed Freedom Works for similarly building “amateur-looking” websites to promote the lobbying interests of Dick Armey, the former Republican Majority Leader who now leads Freedom Works and is a lobbyist for the firm DLA Piper.
Americans for Prosperity is run by Tim Phillips, who was Ralph Reed’s former partner in the lobbying firm Century Strategies. The group is funded by Koch family foundations — a family whose wealth is derived from the oil industry. Indeed Americans for Prosperity has coordinated pro-drilling ‘grassroots‘ events around the country.
But my personal favorite?
But Cavuto’s claim ignores a Fox News poll released last week, which found that only 36 percent of Americans said they would “be willing to join” a “tea party” protest.
36%, which is the same number of people who have professed their hatred of everything Obama. A minority of useful idiots, if you will.
There's a tea party not far from me in New Jersey.
I'm saddened that I already penciled in my dog for his bath that day, I won't be in attendance.
WE ARE ALL TEA DRINKERS!
Tea brewed, while you wait.
Your bag+our boiling water=hot stuff!
Don't worry about the flys, we won't weigh them!
If you wanted to pick up some small cash, you could package coffee grounds as expensive tea. Fair weather revolutionarys could get into expensive teas.
Bring back Brainwash. And Conditioner. Then we can revive BOUNCIN AND BEHAVIN....
It's more likely that MMFA is upset at something that is WRONG.
If I steal your car, I must be doing something right because it'll really upset you.
Cavuto et al have already started their preemptive whining about the media not covering the Tea Bag parties.
Where the flock have they been for the last eight years? Every Bush tax cut resulted in a state and local tax increase. Every one resulted in increases in the sin taxes as well.
I'm not angry at Fox for covering these things. But when a news organization promotes and sponsors these events, they can't be called grassroots events any more than Fox can be called a real news organization or Glenn
Beck can be considered a thoughtful, intelligent human being.
Instead of looking down the road, they should try looking back when Clinton did that same increase, and revenues DID increase and bracket/rate increases DID NOT happen. But of course if you're saying that 10% isn't high enough I'm right behind you.
Like with gun control and the fairness doctrine, the people will be better off if they don't try to predict government policy five years down the line. With today's media, they'll have a hard enough time just getting basic information on the policies currently on the table.
You're saying that people are rising up against future tax increases, which turn out to be your own proposal. You say that high taxes on the rich don't bring in enough revenue, then propose going back to Clinton levels and doing something with the "excess revenue". You seem to think that the government should have money to help people, but you want that money to come from the people who are least able to spare it during the worst of the recession. You want an across-the-board hike on the lower middle class after decrying sin taxes that hurt the lower middle class.
"The national debt was somewhat smaller in 1994 (or thereabouts) than it is today" -- try that "% of GDP" game you like so much and the debt won't seem so bad.
"the 90% marginal rates of the 50s-early 60s did not (as a % of GDP) bring in a ton more revenue to the government" -- that says to me that either there were too many loopholes or that the GDP was just growing too dang quickly. Economies tend to shoot through the roof when income inequality is low.
The rich are as rich now as they were in the 1920s. Raise the rate to 60%, close the loopholes, get new budget projections in a few years, and reevaluate.
"right now, we have to face the problem head on" -- right now is the least appropriate of all times to face the problem head on. The right time was 1992-2006, and we were moving smoothly down that road before something got derailed right around January 2001. Failing that, the right time is after the current recession. The right time is most definitely NOT right now.
"politicians...getting re-elected...have to tax the fewest as much as possible" -- unless you can point to a single politician, anywhere, promoting a tax increase on the rich above Clinton levels, that is 100% wrong. I wish it weren't.
You're deliberately ignoring the elephant in the room in a sorely misplaced "both parties do it" mentality. If you want the deficit gone, don't allow a supply-sider into the white house EVER again.
I'm not angry with Fox for "covering" these events.
I'm angry with Fox for CREATING them.
I'm angry with Fox for passing them off as legitimate protests.
I'm especially angry with Fox for passing itself off as a news organization while engaging in pure, partisan propaganda. How can you create the event, promote it, and then be expected to cover it in a "fair and balanced" way? You can't.
It's really amazing how Cavuto and Beck can "cover" something they are part of organizing and that hasn't even happened yet.
And they even CALL it "FNC TEA PARTIES".
Damn, these people really have no shame.
Not at all. We are just pointing out the hypcoracy and phoniness of a supposed "fair & balanced news agency" creating the news by HOSTING, SPONSORING & PROMOTING what are supposed to be "grassroots" events.
Yes, Fox News & super cons LOVE when they do or say something that makes us upset.
Fact is, though, that the events in Feb & March drew so few participants that they need to have fundraisers with Beck, Limbuagh to tout it and Fox News to host it.
News FLASH: That ain't grass roots. Look it up.
These will become big fat Obama hate fests. Enjoy!!
I wasn't sure how much money the government wasted, but the republicans taught me last election that it's about 1% (excluding defense).