Beck: "You can't convince me that the founding fathers wouldn't allow you to secede"

I doubt anyone could convince him that the earth revolves around the sun either.

I WILL PAY YOU TO SECEDE GLENN. YOU CAN START YOUR OWN PARANOID RIGHT WING WHITE CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. AND TAKE HEIL HANNITY,PALIN,GINGRICH,BACHMANN ET AL WITH YOU. 

Crockett? What he fails to mention is that he left Washington for Texas to uphold the right to keep slaves. (They left that out of the Disney version)

Someone declare Fox Studios it's own country, then deny all it's citizens  access into ours.

GLENN BECK IS NOT ONLY CRAZY HE IS FACTUALLY WRONG MOST OF THE TIME. HE MUST HAVE MISSED MANY HISTORY CLASSES. HE ONCE TOLD A PANEL,INCLUDING DAVID GEREN AND ROLAND MARTIN,WHILE DEFENDING PRESIDENT BUSH'S LACK OF ORATORY SKILLS  THAT PRESIDENT LINCOLN WAS NOT A GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER.

He sure does love his country, doesn't he?  Only a true partiot would talk about seceding from the union because he doesn't like the new president's policies.  Or because he doesn't like what policies he thinks the new president my propose some day.

The founding fathers wouldn't allow you to secede.

The government of Massachusetts used force to put down Shays' Rebellion.

George Washington took the field at the head of soldiers in order to end the Whiskey Rebellion -- by force if necessary.

The federal government imprisoned and tried Aaron Burr, a former Vice President of the United States, for TREASON, allegedly for trying to separate several states from the United States and form them into a new nation, with himself at the head. (Burr's real plan remains an object of speculation and he was acquitted, but the Jefferson administration took action it said it thought was necessary to prevent the secession of several states, so obviously Jefferson, a founding father, DID NOT think states could secede.)

I could go on, but it should be clear that Beck is clearly deranged, ignorant, and uninformed.

 

Brilliant points  Beck; our founding fathers creating a country so that states could secede.  Perfect "logic".....if you're a raving lunatic.

 

 

Perhaps. But since over 500K Americans died in the CIVIL WAR, I'd say that we're a country that has since decided to become a whole UNION.

They should all go to Somalia.  No Socialism or taxes over there.  It's a Right Wing paradise!

Important to note that Crockett didn't try to secede, he left the country. Wingnutters are welcome to follow Davey's lead.

Also, Crockett was not a Senator (he was in the House), so I doubt that he made any such comments from the "well of the Senate."

Is there any non-Texan who would oppose Texas leaving the US though? Talk about moving a huge step forward in creating a more perfect union. ;)

I kid!

Although Beck is clearly a nutcase, and I'm quite glad we won the civil war, I don't think Beck's views are completely off base here. Many of the founding fathers were skeptical of the idea of a powerful central government and wanted states to retain sovereignty, including the right to secede.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States

At least one legal theorist, Lysander Spooner, who was also an abolitionist, did believe that the southern states had the right to secede.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysander_Spooner

I think a correct reading of the constitution as it is currently understood is that it does not allow for secession, but I don't think Beck is completely coming out of left field.

Apparently Beck hates America.  I think this is a great platform for Repubs in 2012.  Don't let the teabag hit you on the way out.

Beck, the Founding Fathers, were they alive today, would line up for the pleasure of kicking you repeatedly in the tenders.  With buckled shoes.

Beck is living in another world, or perhaps more acurately, Beck is living in another time.

 

No Glenn.  I guess we can't. 

And I dearly wish you were not doing your gay little tea party in the city of my birth, on hallowed ground, and with that racist idiot Ted Nugent performing the national anthem.   

The mock immolation is probably the craziest Beck stunt thus far, but he's showing remarkable consistency here. What does the future hold for him? A bestselling book? "B" The Magazine? A major motion picture, in which Beck portrays Jefferson, Churchill, and St. Ronnie? I know: Senator Beck!

 

 

What's this guy's education level? I seen two of his shows and he speaks no sense at all. I also believe this guy is going to get someone seroiusly hurt. He's really crazy. 

Wow, this Glenn Beck is a contradictory speaker and and a exploiter of the american people .nothing ever comes out of his mouth that isn't proved wrong by simple logic or common sense.

Faux conservatives like Beck actually seem to believe that they alone understand what the founding fathers thought. It's beyond absurd and makes you wonder whether it's a conscious strategy to promote their agenda, or whether they're just that unhinged.

Well, it's about time that SOMEONE stood up to that notorious fascist radical communist Abraham Lincoln. Good thing that Beck's here to do the job.      ;0)

Drop the references to Thomas Paine. Paine was notorious for arguing against Christian doctrines. 

Just have a look at his book The Age of Reason (1793–94).

 

This guy must think we are stupid or something, didn't the south threaten to secede and that was one of the reasons we had the civil war.

The ratings for Beck and O'reily may be high. Murdoch should realize that Obama has nearly a 70% approval rating at home and with our allies.

So when Beck,O'reily and Hannity spew their divisive and hate filled rhetoric most of your audience supports the PRESIDENT and not the views your sick anchors.

Most of the FOX audience is not only far right individuals but people who care about their newly elected leader and only  want to keep an eye on his enemies.

keep talking Beck, O'reily and Hannity. You are helping the Democratic enrollment each night you are on the air.

If we required certain education levels of everyone in news, media and government, I doubt that it would lead to the average person giving them more credibility. Instead of disparaging the person lets look to what they are saying and debate that on the merits. Anyone who thinks that the Civil War was fought over slavery and slavery alone is mistaken.

While I am not for secession, i do think that the points made by the Texas governor are valid and worthy of debate.