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Fox News military analyst says Obama and Chavez were "fist bumping and making lovey dovey"

April 20, 2009 9:34 am ET

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    • Author by magnolialover (April 20, 2009 9:36 am ET)
         
      I knew that this crap was coming... God forbid our President meets a leader from another country and is civil to them.
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      • Author by fairliberal (April 20, 2009 11:06 am ET)
           
        Yes, Carter and Clinton showed how effective that can be with their treatment of Yasser Arafat.
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        • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 20, 2009 11:18 am ET)
             
          And Bush could see into Putin's soul.
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          • Author by fairliberal (April 20, 2009 11:48 am ET)
               
            No argument from me, Bush was dead wrong on Putin.
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            • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 20, 2009 2:05 pm ET)
                 
              Are you saying that diplomacy is a bad idea here?  What would you suggest?  Do you agree with the story as it was reported?  Do you not see the overwhelming bias in his comment?
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        • Author by mk3872 (April 20, 2009 11:28 am ET)
             
          Carter and Clinton showed how effective handshakes are?? Huh??
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        • Author by harley (April 20, 2009 12:04 pm ET)
             

           

          Carter and  Clinton have nothing to do with this thread, you obsessive terrorist anti-American scum.

           

           

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          • Author by fairliberal (April 20, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
               
            Once again you display your ignorance. Our presidents interaction with foreign leaders is a topic of this thread. So bringing up Bubba and the peanut man is legitimate, in case you have forgotten, they were presidents.
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            • Author by Max Credits (April 20, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
                 
              Thanks for the information.  Past US Presidents is a tough nut to crack.  You must be part wizard.
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            • Author by harley (April 20, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
                 

               

              Once again you display your ignorance.  This thread doesn't have to do with Carter or Clinton, you subhuman scumbag terrorist.  Keep obsessing you inbred hick.

               

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            • Author by magnolialover (April 20, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
                 
              What about Rummy representing the US shaking hands and THEN selling massive amounts of weapons to Saddam Hussein? I'd say that was pretty bad as well.
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              • Author by jonesjax2374 (April 20, 2009 9:22 pm ET)
                   
                SNAP to Magnolia.  LOL!  Didn't Reagan negotiate w/terrorists?  More than a fist-bump were arms for hostages, right?  Or am I hallucinating as he's now a saint...?
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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (April 21, 2009 9:14 am ET)
                 

              "Once again you display your ignorance."

              Once again you display your disposition toward projecting your faults upon those who (correctly) disagree with you.

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        • Author by wookie (April 20, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
             
          Carter's treatment of Egypt and Israel was pretty effective.
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        • Author by magnolialover (April 20, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
             
          And please, tell me, what did the PLO ever do to America? Nothing...
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          • Author by diogenie27611 (April 21, 2009 9:15 am ET)
               
            Not exactly true.  One of their earliest terrorist acts was to kill an American during a hijacking (a handicapped one at that)
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          • Author by fairliberal (April 21, 2009 9:56 am ET)
               

            As the other poster has noted they did kill an American. And they were so brave that they picked a handicapped one at that. And perhaps you were not aware of their attacks on our ally Israel. Keep defending them.

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        • Author by mescal (April 20, 2009 8:06 pm ET)
             

          DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!

          Fauxliberal is a representative of the Faux News Channel, and is here merely to deny their lies and deliberate distortions of the news. Notice how Fauxliberal rarely comments on threads that DON'T concern Faux News. Fauxliberal has been sent strictly for the purpose of upending and and misdirecting these threads.

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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (April 20, 2009 9:23 pm ET)
               
            I think you are correct.  I am come to believe the same thing.  It may be Mrs. O'Reilly.  Or Flava Flav's ex.  Whichever way you want to say it.
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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (April 21, 2009 9:15 am ET)
                 
              No, if it were Mrs O'Reilly the handle would be "falafeliberal."
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          • Author by fairliberal (April 21, 2009 10:00 am ET)
               
            Did you ever consider that is because most of the threads here concern Fox.  You are laughable. I absolutely love to get the olbermann twins into the discussion but MMFA doesn't mention their misinformation and one sided broadcasts.
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    • Author by chamay0 (April 20, 2009 9:43 am ET)
         

      This is some what sad and utterly pathetic.  This is the best the conservatives can do?  Imply that there is an elicit affair between the two?

      I'm sorry but if this is the best they can do, then they should close up shop now.  The only thing that was accomplished here was to show that they are a bunch of sick perverts. 

      I'm sure they would be shocked to know that some men use the rest room for more than just tapping their feet.

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      • Author by robrob (April 21, 2009 12:14 am ET)
           

        "Is this the best conservatives can do?"

        As a matter of fact, yes. They've run out of flag pins and DVDs to whine over.

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    • Author by breno3414301 (April 20, 2009 9:53 am ET)
         
      Needlessly antagonizing a nation that poses no military threat to us but a huge economic one was SUCH a better strategy than treating them civilly.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (April 20, 2009 10:21 am ET)
         
      They're now resisting calls to collaberate on a Rap, golden oldy's CD.
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    • Author by mk3872 (April 20, 2009 10:37 am ET)
         
      Making Lovey Dovey??? Is Fox News really supposed to be a news channel or this just an outlet for the craziest of the crazies to say any right-wing nonsense without being challenged?
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    • Author by Dem02020 (April 20, 2009 10:44 am ET)
         

      These guys are straining a bit, even telling lies, by trying to imply Venezuala is an enemy to the United States: the American People know better, they're not stupid... and these Fux know that too, and so notice how fine a line they walk in implying this enemy crap, without actually saying it in most cases: "flat out anti-American"... that's a strain... it may also be strange, seeing as Venezuala is in America, South America.

      Of course, these Fux really meant that "Chavez called Bush the devil, and has also bedeviled the oil industry (Exxon) by resisting all efforts to privatize or otherwise seize his nation's oil... and yeah, he's some kind of socialist, and you know how we Fux feel about that."

      It'll be a cold day in Caracas when I or anyone I know, lets Fux News Channel tell us who our enemies are.

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (April 20, 2009 11:23 am ET)
           
        I personally like Venezuela - gave me the chance to enjoy Omar Vizquel and Victor Martinez.
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        • Author by Dem02020 (April 20, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
             

          I'm a big fan of that "F Bomb" guy, Ozzie Guillen: he talks superfast and sometimes with a very heavy accent, but I usually understand and agree with him, especially when he sprinkles his words with many "F Bombs"...

          Otherwise, I always think of Orlando Cabrera and for some reason not Carlos, but Victor Zambrano, because he threw such rockets but just couldn't stay away from walking about half of the guys he pitched to.

          There's a lot of Venezuelans in MLB: are they our enemies too?

          Oh yeah, that's right!  Ozzie stiffed George W. Bush when the White Sox went to the White House!  I almost forgot about that... he had something better to do that day (like maybe mow the lawn)... I knew there was more than just "F Bombs" that endeared Ozzie to me!

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      • Author by jonesjax2374 (April 20, 2009 9:26 pm ET)
           
        Bush is the Devil.  Well, okay just the marionette. Cheney was the Devil!  Why do they hate America!!!
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    • Author by danadevin851481 (April 20, 2009 10:48 am ET)
         

      was President Obama supposed to challenge Chavez to a duel?

      he was civil towards him

      thats the way an adult should act

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    • Author by wookie (April 20, 2009 10:56 am ET)
         
      I thought the fist bump was a terrorist thing? Did they steal it from the socialists?
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    • Author by Dem02020 (April 20, 2009 11:02 am ET)
         
      And I just had to see what these Fux are passing off as a "military analyst" these days... so I Wikipedia'd this guy Ralph Peters for his bio: no, I don't see it admitted that he's in the defense contracting businees, or that he's otherwise a paid spokesperson for the defense industry lobby (that is, paid by anyone other than these Fux)... I see a dull and brief military career... it's of interest that he's one of these "boot-strap" Officers, who apply for Officer Candidate School as an enlisted man, and in Peters' case, then spends a brief eight years as an Officer, all of it in Intel it seems... but what's of great and special interest is this: he's the guy who came forward on the Internet (if I'm reading this right) to point out that the George W. Bush Texas ANG "memo" was apparently written with an electric typewriter, or some other machine that was unlikely to ever have been used in the days that the memo was supposedly written... I won't bore you with the details of that memo crap (other than to point out the thing was a clever sheme meant to distract you and the honest press from Bush's failure to complete his Alabama ANG service, maybe he never even reported!), but I'll mention that as a former enlisted man given the golden opportunity to join the Officer Corps, and then being assigned to Intel duties, that just about any slimy trick or scheme might fall to such an underling as that: and that's what the guy's military bio shows, that he was merely an underling for just eight years.
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      • Author by Dem02020 (April 20, 2009 11:08 am ET)
           

        ...and he was FOR IRAQ, a big cheerleader of it, before he was AGAINST IRAQ.

        And he did his flip-flopping on IRAQ as a writer (again, his military career was brief), and so he flip-flopped on IRAQ from behind a typewriter, an electric typrewriter I guess.

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      • Author by Dem02020 (April 20, 2009 11:10 am ET)
           

        ...and oh yeah, I forgot to mention: this guy Ralph Peters' voice? 

        He needs to root around in his sock drawer, and see if he can't find a pair.

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      • Author by mk3872 (April 20, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
           

        Shocking! Shocking, I tell you!

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      • Author by fairliberal (April 20, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
           
        It seems you cannot read very well, I looked at Wiki and found he had a 22 year career in the Army and 18 of those years was as an officer, and retired with the rank of LT Col. Maybe we should compare his military service with Bill Clinton's or Barack Obama's.
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        • Author by Dem02020 (April 20, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
             

          Thanks for that help, I misread his end-date as 1988, when in fact it was 1998.

          Twenty-two years, and the guy retired as a LIGHT COLONEL!

          Wow, he must have some awfully bad fitness reports behind him, I can guarantee you that... 22 years, 18 as an Officer, and he couldn't crack Lt. Colonel?

          There's something called the "dregs" of the Officer Corps, and this guy, he might just be that... wait, he's a Fux News Channel "military analyst"?

          Did I say he might be the "dregs"?

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          • Author by fairliberal (April 20, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
               
            It's a shame that you take the time to denegrate the military service of an individual that you know little or nothing about.  Especially since we have to go back 20 years to find a democratic president who even served.
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            • Author by Dem02020 (April 20, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
                 

              What do mean I know little or nothing about the guy? 

              From seeing him here as a Fux News Channel "military analyst" (and isn't that a proud thing to be) and from reading his Wikipedia bio (where among the strange even bizarre things about the guy, is his fantastic imagined whimsical plan to redraw all the national boundries of the Middel East! Look at the maps of it on that guy's Wiki bio page, and read the other stuff about the guy: he's a nut!), that's all I need to know, that's plenty.

              But I say that these days all you need to know about a guy is that he's a "military analyst" on Fux News Channel, to safely say he's a sneaky manipulative hack.

              Look at the video clip... are you blind?

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            • Author by jonesjax2374 (April 20, 2009 9:36 pm ET)
                 
              Well we WOULD have had another military man, Kerry, but apparently his career wasn't patriotic enough.  Against "national guard" winner.
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              • Author by fairliberal (April 20, 2009 10:26 pm ET)
                   
                Could of, but didn't. This is the best you could do   http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
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                • Author by friedbergboy1422 (April 20, 2009 11:11 pm ET)
                     
                  Glass houses, buddy, you guys voted twice for a man, but disparaged a decorated vet.  At least Clinton didn't run his campaign mocking Dole's service.  Gimme a break!
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                  • Author by fairliberal (April 21, 2009 10:53 am ET)
                       
                    First off, I never denegrated Kerry's service. Secondly, Clinton was a draft dodger, how could he say anything about Dole. That is a pretty weak arguement. http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
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                    • Author by mescal (April 22, 2009 3:17 am ET)
                         

                      Draft dodgers such as Darth Cheney, Rush Limpbaugh, Sean Insanity, Bill O'Lielly, et al, never had any problems with denigrating the military service of Al Gore and John Kerry, now did they? In fact, at the 2004 Republican Convention, I seem to recall hundreds of Republican delegates despicably wearing little purple -heart band aids on their smug, obnoxious faces as a means of mocking Kerry's heroic actions during the Viet Nam war. You, of course, were OUTRAGED by this vile act, and thundered away against it.

                      Yeah. Sure thing, troll. 

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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (April 20, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
         
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (April 20, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
         
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXcroVjBqNU
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (April 20, 2009 5:06 pm ET)
         
      "We had this debate throughout the campaign, and the whole notion was, is that somehow if we showed courtesy or opened up dialogue with governments that had previously been hostile to us, that that somehow would be a sign of weakness. The American people didn't buy it. And there's a good reason the American people didn't buy it, because it doesn't make sense."

      -- President Obama, responding to Republican criticisms about him greeting Venezuela's Hugo Chavez.
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    • Author by shaggles (April 20, 2009 6:07 pm ET)
         
      Well that's certainly fair and balanced.
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