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O'Reilly says NY Times and MSNBC execs, Soros, ACLU's Romero are "America-haters" for depicting America as a "torture nation"

April 27, 2009 8:59 pm ET

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    • Author by DAWUSS (April 27, 2009 9:03 pm ET)
         

      "MSNBC execs?"

       

      Can't he just call Keith-O by name?

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    • Author by mescal (April 27, 2009 9:11 pm ET)
         

      O'Lielly should be prosecuted for torturing logic and the facts. He is beyond dishonest and is simply a sociopathic liar. His own seething hatred for America and our liberties is palpable.

      What a freakin' putz.

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    • Author by jonesjax2374 (April 27, 2009 9:16 pm ET)
         
      This "America haters" is so 2000. 
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    • Author by dangrady (April 27, 2009 9:21 pm ET)
         

      Conservative Boogy Man George Soros has nothing to do with Media Matters, he is a founding member, board member of the Center for American Progress. CAP has never wavered, and has unabashedly stated their agenda of progressive policies. 

      George Soros has as much or more money than many of the most prolific idealogues in the media, like say Rich Ailles! The guy that without any reasonable proof called the  2000 Election for his shills Bush / Cheney.

      No need to look for a boogy man on their side, the list long enough!

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      • Author by fairliberal (April 27, 2009 10:32 pm ET)
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        Really ? 

        “Media Matters for America, the group headed by conservative turned liberal writer David Brock, has changed course on its stated association with billionaire liberal financier George Soros.

        After initially claiming on Dec. 1, 2004 that “neither Media Matters nor its president and CEO David Brock has received any money from Soros or from any organization with which he is affiliated,” the group is no longer disavowing any connection with groups “affiliated” with Soros.

        The Media Matters shift came after Cybercast News Service questioned the group’s financial ties and demonstrated that there were numerous and extensive links between Media Matters and several Soros “affiliates” like MoveOn.org, the Center for American Progress and Soros ally Peter Lewis.

        Media Matters for America (MMA) spokeswoman Sally Aman responded to Cybercast News Service’s questions with an e-mail. “In response to your query regarding donor funding Media Matters for America has never received funding directly from George Soros,” Aman stated, no longer denying any relationship with organizations affiliated with Soros.

        She went on to reference the “early support from Moveon.org, and the New Democrat Network,” that Media Matters had received.

        In its role as a liberal media watchdog, Media Matters for America takes on some of the biggest names in media. Brock also authored the 2002 book, “Blinded by the Right, The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative,” in which he denounced the conservative movement where he first gained fame and disclosed his homosexuality.”

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        • Author by eweston8542983 (April 27, 2009 11:11 pm ET)
             

          Media Matters for America has never received funding directly from George Soros,” Aman stated, no longer denying any relationship with organizations affiliated with Soros.

          Soros had no control over where the money ended up, this is a relationship?

          Scaife, Murdoch and a few of thier peers amount to a couple powers of ten more in monies paid out in support of conservative media. They also prefer a hands on approach.

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          • Author by fairliberal (April 28, 2009 12:00 am ET)
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            No, they receive it indirectly, and have acknowledged that. The dems just have more of a tradition of deceit to uphold. It is the same as the claim that acorn does not receive any government funds. It is just political money laundering.
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            • Author by tman418 (April 28, 2009 12:50 am ET)
                 
              Media Matters as an organization has never acknowledged receiving funds indirectly from Soros. Read this...

              "O'Reilly purported to chart an intricate web leading to "vile propaganda outfit" Media Matters"

              http://mediamatters.org/items/200704240003

              They even try to solicit donations from Soros in that article.

              "As previously indicated, Soros has never given money to Media Matters, either directly or through another organization. If he wanted to fund Media Matters, he or Open Society Institute (OSI), a grant-making foundation he established in 1993 to conduct his philanthropy, could simply write a check directly to Media Matters, as he and OSI do to numerous entities."

              Just because that one spokeswoman says "We don't receive money DIRECTLY from Soros", it does not mean she was refuting anything Media Matters said in the past and she was "admitting" to receiving Soros money.

              O'Reilly and the right offer no evidence to back up these claims. Care to back up your claims that there are organizations laundering money to ACORN? Name them, and then show me hard evidence to where the money is going.
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        • Author by TheDayV (April 28, 2009 8:37 am ET)
             
          Source it, or you made it up.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (April 28, 2009 6:55 pm ET)
             

          I noticed you didn't provide a link - therefore by your logic none of what you wrote exists.

          But, mostly - SO WHAT?  Even though your article (or whatever it is) actually seems to refute your point that Soros funds Media Matters. 

          So what?  And Ailes runs Fox News.  The difference is that Media Matters admits they are out to show how biased conservative media is and uses facts to support their beliefs.  Fox News pretends to be fair and balanced and bases most of their "stories" and shows on propaganda. 

          And who cares what Soros does fund?  Why does he not have the right to do the same things that Murdoch or Ailes or anybody else does?  Typical right-wing smear merchant - two sets of rules.

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    • Author by mk3872 (April 27, 2009 9:24 pm ET)
         

      YEAH!! THAT'S RIGHT!! YOU GUY, BILL-O!!

      American TORTURES!! We will waterboard you, your mamma and your uncle, so don't mess with the U.S.!!

      Woo-Hoo!! The REAL AMERICA loves guns, hates gays, waterboards them arabs and LUVS Bill O'Reilly!

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      • Author by franky (April 27, 2009 11:48 pm ET)
           

        ...LUVS Bill O'Reilly!

        I doubt if they love him, but you might be right.  My guess is they despise him the way his boss does but prefer him as the face of the conservatives,...well for various political reasons.

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    • Author by fawltylogic (April 27, 2009 10:00 pm ET)
         

      I don't get it. Is he saying it's BAD to call America a "torture nation"... but torture itself is GOOD?

      What does he actually believe (I was gonna say "think", but I doubt he thinks).

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    • Author by fawltylogic (April 27, 2009 10:00 pm ET)
         

      I don't get it. Is he saying it's BAD to call America a "torture nation"... but torture itself is GOOD?

      What does he actually believe (I was gonna say "think", but I doubt he thinks).

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    • Author by MickD (April 27, 2009 11:43 pm ET)
         
      Here we go. Billo goes after the NYT, and the NYT publishes a favorable profile of Becksie or Fox equivalent to MSNBC or whatever. The beaten Gray Lady, and by freakin' Rupert Murdoch. Grow a pair, NYT.
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    • Author by fairliberal (April 28, 2009 12:04 am ET)
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      Any comments on the cartoon? I seem to recall quite a few comments about other cartoons, why the silence now?
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      • Author by tman418 (April 28, 2009 12:52 am ET)
           
        Maybe the cartoon represents what the previous administration turned America into? Sure, it ain't politically correct. That doesn't meant the cartoonist and its publishers are anti-American, the right's favorite term to describe liberals and their ideals, not that the NYT is liberal.
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      • Author by TheDayV (April 28, 2009 9:01 am ET)
           

        Bill's point that the cartoon will wreck America's image all over the world is silly. First of all, images like it will only convince the world that the US is getting closer to giving in to reason. Second of all, it won't convince the 'world' of anything; O'Reilly grossly overestimates how many people care about his opinion. The same can be said about his estimation of the world's population that pay attention to American news media. Believing anything he has to say about 'popular' opinion at any level of population is wrong.

        Fairliberal, you seem to agree with O'Reilly that what is popular is true. The analogy has been made before; by that logic, McDonalds' food is the healthiest thing for you and Playboy has more intellectual merit than the average academic journal.

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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (April 28, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
           
        Any comments about the fact that Bill O'Reilly says torture (water boarding) is not a bad yet those that talk about us torturing (water boarding) "hate" America?  Please twist yourself into your logic pretzel and explain how both of those things can be true.
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    • Author by MrBrown (April 28, 2009 11:44 am ET)
         

      The base of the statue says "bring me your huddled masses."

      Not, "bring me your captured enemy combatants to torture"

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