O'Reilly jokes that if 24 "really want[s] big ratings," they'll waterboard Garofalo
May 04, 2009 9:26 pm ET
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Walt Kelly said the same thing years ago in Pogo: "We have met the enemy and he is us."
While your at it... perhaps you can get '24' to water-board Sean Hannity??
Were all still waiting for the big pu$$y to make good on his promise to Charles Grodin that he would be happy to be water boarded for charity!!
Olbermann offered $1000 per second that Sean can handle being tortured... I've made my legal declaration in a thread a couple weeks ago to give $10 per second to a charity as well!
How about Bill? Any chance you can be ballsy enough to prod Sean into being a man... or are you all just what we all figure you are?
You'll probably spend 20-30 dollars...fifty at the most. Nice gesture but let's get real here. You ain't coaxing Hannity out of his hole sir....even with all that big money you're willing to spend.
You'll probably spend 20-30 dollars...fifty at the most. Nice gesture but let's get real here. You ain't coaxing Hannity out of his hole sir....even with all that big money you're willing to spend."
Believe me... if I could offer a $1000 per second or more I most assuredly would!
Heck, I'd be willing to sacrifice Bill O'Reilly's family to watch Sean Hannity crumble like the b!t<h he is!
Okay... I would not actually sacrifice Billy's family... but since Sean and quite frankly all right-wing lunatics want to attempt to mock water-boarding or any other type of torture...
My $10 (as paltry as it is) and the $1000 from Olbermann and the other thousands or more people that would be willing to put up enough money to make it worth it so that Sean can finally prove himself to be either a man... or the fraudulent creep we know him to be!!
For what its worth achrispage6992 ... since Sean will never be water boarded because he's a pathetic bug... your right that no amount of money will get him to put up because he is not capable of shutting up!
You're only a character who does his thing for the sake of entertainment, and anybody who takes what you say seriously is out of their mind?
Or you just yell a lot?
You can't want to waterboard Garofalo and not buy into Jack/Kiefer's socialist roots.
Still want to be just like Jack, Bill?
Sitting on his corporate stool, smirking like a two-bit moron...
Billy's on TV!!
Anyway, the waterboarding you would subject yourself to could not be the "same" if you knew it was being done in a controlled situation by "friendlies." Secondly, all you chickenhawks have this Hollywood inspired idea about situations like this. You have no clue about such realities but will readily indicate that you would submit yourself to realities you have no understanding of. It's not different than saying "I would have gladly stormed the beach at Normandy if I knew I wouldn't have gotten killed." That is either called hypocrisy or stupidity...(I'll go with the latter.)
The reality about you chickenhawks is this: You miss a couple of meals and proclaim to know what its like to be hungry; you read a few books, watch a few movies, listen to people, and proclaim to know about war; you are born to a relatively good middle income homes, have vacations each summer and meat for every meal, go to school grow up and get jobs and you proclaim that you "pulled yourself up by your bootstraps" without ever understanding what that really means; you buy a used car instead of a new one shop at Wal-Mart instead of Belks and proclaim to know about poverty; you watch a stupid television show about terrorists and hero's and proclaim to understand torture. Amazing and so utterly sad at the same time.
If you really want to prove your a tough guy/girl... why not go to your local media outlet and have them get in contact with pro's who know what they are doing and have them video tape your breaking like the little weasel you are, submit it here to MMfA and shows us your abilities!!
Or... stop coming in here and acting like your hot stuff!!!
Water-boarding is NOT a laughing matter and people like you are pathetic for thinking it is!
You've described the KARL ROVE strategy to a tee. Well done.
You are correct, teabaggers are actually properly designated as anti-American, inbred, hick, terrorist, low-life, racist, subhuman filth.
What does Olbermann have to do with this thread? Why are you reich-wingers SO obsessed with him?
By the way, Japanese were convicted of torturing US troops following WWII for using waterboarding, dolt. Don't let facts and reality stand in the way of your stupidity.
So your premise here is that the water-boarding done by Americans against alleged terrorists was/is not as intense or as inhumane as that done by the Japanese to US soldiers?
Are you stupid or something? Or just plain ignorant?
If I hold you against your will and put hundreds of paper cuts all over your body (yes, there too)... doing so until you admit to something you didn't actually do... would that not be a form of torture?
It's not as intense as water-boarding to be sure... but how many paper cuts until you finally break? Over time, you would... anyone would!
The point I'm trying to make is... water-boarding done against anyone at anytime... IS TORTURE you jerk!
I'm guessing you haven't seen any of the numerous episodes where he criticizes Obama on civil liberties issues, usually with Jonathan Turley. Yeah, it's happened. Here's a start:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30254776/
Does "Mr. President, you are wrong" count as mentioning ANY missteps by ANYONE remotely left leaning?
"The military agency that provided advice on harsh interrogation techniques for use against terrorism suspects referred to the application of extreme duress as "torture" in a July 2002 document sent to the Pentagon's chief lawyer and warned that it would produce "unreliable information."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/24/AR2009042403171.html?hpid=topnews
"There was no actionable intelligence gained from using enhanced interrogation techniques on Abu Zubaydah that wasn’t, or couldn’t have been, gained from regular tactics. In addition, I saw that using these alternative methods on other terrorists backfired on more than a few occasions — all of which are still classified. The short sightedness behind the use of these techniques ignored the unreliability of the methods, the nature of the threat, the mentality and modus operandi of the terrorists, and due process."
That's from one of the interrogators of Abu Zubaydah. He even saw the tactics backfire if you read his editorial:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/opinion/23soufan.html?_r=1
So, yes, if war were to break out because you on the right hate America so much that you will resort to committing war crimes, torture and violate international law, go ahead. Remember though, that you are violating everything that makes this country great if you engage in those tactics and prepare for bad information.
I am trying to have a civil debate with you on the merits of torture. Can you do that or not?
If there are war criminals to be dealt with, don't you think we should use the principles that have guided our country for the past 200+ years?
I laid out the reasons the Pentagon gave and what an interrogator gave, people who are authorities on this subject and who have been advising those in charge. My cousin's fiancee is headed out there. Both are beside the point. Torture is illegal and it doesn't work.
Apologists for torture are disgusting and un-American.
Sheesh, the brainwashing by hate radio has apparently done its job.
"Liberty is not to be enjoyed, indeed it cannot exist, without the habits of just subordination; it consists, not so much in removing all restraint from the orderly, as in imposing it on the violent."-
Fisher Ames, Essay on Equality, December 15, 1801
"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."- Winston Churchill
Etc
From Col. Robin Stephens, one of Churchill's top interrogators:
"Never strike a man. It is unintelligent, for the spy will give an answer to please, an answer to escape punishment. And having given a false answer, all else depends upon the false premise.”...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/churchill-vs-cheney.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6201378.ece
Jack Bauer - is that you? If so, please call the home office.