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O'Reilly jokes that if 24 "really want[s] big ratings," they'll waterboard Garofalo

May 04, 2009 9:26 pm ET

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    • Author by Brishon (May 04, 2009 9:40 pm ET)
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      They just can't get over the fact that 24 is not reality, a shame really.
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      • Author by Max Credits (May 04, 2009 9:51 pm ET)
           
        Too bad they can't grasp its simple concept that we are our own worst enemy.
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        • Author by tman418 (May 05, 2009 12:02 am ET)
             
          Is that a reference to the other failed TV show on NBC?
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        • Author by dave2150 (May 05, 2009 4:33 am ET)
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          too bad "they" can and are saying the same thing about ....us
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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 05, 2009 7:48 am ET)
               
            The sentiment is nothing new.

            Walt Kelly said the same thing years ago in Pogo: "We have met the enemy and he is us."

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    • Author by captfoster2 (May 04, 2009 9:52 pm ET)
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      Hey Billy...

      While your at it... perhaps you can get '24' to water-board Sean Hannity??

      Were all still waiting for the big pu$$y to make good on his promise to Charles Grodin that he would be happy to be water boarded for charity!!

      Olbermann offered $1000 per second that Sean can handle being tortured... I've made my legal declaration in a thread a couple weeks ago to give $10 per second to a charity as well!

      How about Bill? Any chance you can be ballsy enough to prod Sean into being a man... or are you all just what we all figure you are?
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (May 05, 2009 7:36 am ET)
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        $10 per second? Wow! How can Hannity resist?

        You'll probably spend 20-30 dollars...fifty at the most. Nice gesture but let's get real here. You ain't coaxing Hannity out of his hole sir....even with all that big money you're willing to spend.
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        • Author by captfoster2 (May 05, 2009 10:07 am ET)
             
          "$10 per second? Wow! How can Hannity resist?

          You'll probably spend 20-30 dollars...fifty at the most. Nice gesture but let's get real here. You ain't coaxing Hannity out of his hole sir....even with all that big money you're willing to spend."


          Believe me... if I could offer a $1000 per second or more I most assuredly would!

          Heck, I'd be willing to sacrifice Bill O'Reilly's family to watch Sean Hannity crumble like the b!t<h he is!

          Okay... I would not actually sacrifice Billy's family... but since Sean and quite frankly all right-wing lunatics want to attempt to mock water-boarding or any other type of torture...

          My $10 (as paltry as it is) and the $1000 from Olbermann and the other thousands or more people that would be willing to put up enough money to make it worth it so that Sean can finally prove himself to be either a man... or the fraudulent creep we know him to be!!

          For what its worth achrispage6992 ... since Sean will never be water boarded because he's a pathetic bug... your right that no amount of money will get him to put up because he is not capable of shutting up!
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          • Author by achrispage6992 (May 06, 2009 7:28 am ET)
               
            I wasn't trying to degrade you in anyway. After re-reading my post I can see where it could look that way and for that I apologize. You make excellent points concerning Hannity.
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      • Author by John G (May 05, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
           
        The little torture fantasies that seem to be running rampant in your mind are more revealing than you suspect. Let me guess, It's not the idea of water boarding you find so appalling, its that it should be those conservative Americans that you really should be tortured. Do you get a little tingle up your leg just thinking about it? You would pay money to see it, huh? Unbelievable, hypocrite.
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    • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (May 04, 2009 10:36 pm ET)
         
      "Bauer reminds me of me."

      You're only a character who does his thing for the sake of entertainment, and anybody who takes what you say seriously is out of their mind?

      Or you just yell a lot?
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    • Author by Leftym0m79 (May 04, 2009 10:55 pm ET)
         
      Oh, Billy...Hasn't anyone told you that Jack Bauer is a fictional character? You might as well compare yourself to the energizer bunny. Come to think of it, that would be an apt comparison. You and all your comrades over at Fixed News just keep going and going and going on about the most inane things.
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    • Author by dmhack (May 04, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
         
      Since Bill can't separate reality from fiction, here's a reality check. Kiefer (or Jack in Bill's mixed up world) is the son of two shameless liberals and the grandson of the the man considered to be the father of socialized healthcare in Canada.
      You can't want to waterboard Garofalo and not buy into Jack/Kiefer's socialist roots.
      Still want to be just like Jack, Bill?
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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (May 04, 2009 11:49 pm ET)
         
      This filthy little punk...

      Sitting on his corporate stool, smirking like a two-bit moron...

      Billy's on TV!!
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    • Author by DAWUSS (May 04, 2009 11:58 pm ET)
         
      He does understand the waterboarding would totally be faked, right?
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    • Author by FNC Liberal (May 05, 2009 1:15 am ET)
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      I'm in favor of waterboarding Bill to get the truth about him and Andrea Mackris.
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    • Author by Trentdaddy (May 05, 2009 2:47 am ET)
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      I love how its perfectly fine to wish torture upon an American citizen, but lord knows If the president makes a slight giggle on the silliness of the situation he's in and OH MY GOD! OBAMA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND HE LAUGHS AT THEM! I don't remember them making a huge deal about Bush's gaff's, but I'm not going to jump on the blame Bush bandwagon....for now.
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    • Author by NJgirl (May 05, 2009 3:20 am ET)
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      I would volunteer for "waterboarding" too, if I was promised that I would receive the same level of care that were given the terrorists.
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (May 05, 2009 7:59 am ET)
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        Yeah right. I've seen some pretty awful things in my life but never torture. That being said, I don't believe any of you (NJgirl, O'Reilly, Hannity) who signal that you would be willing to subject yourself to trauma as long as it was the nice and easy way just like terrorists received. Are you saying that the level of care given is an indication of whether or not something is torture? Just because there were doctors there doesn't make it "nice." There were doctors present when John McCain and other POW's were TORTURED in Hanoi. According to your logic, since that was the case, Sen. McCain wasn't really tortured.

        Anyway, the waterboarding you would subject yourself to could not be the "same" if you knew it was being done in a controlled situation by "friendlies." Secondly, all you chickenhawks have this Hollywood inspired idea about situations like this. You have no clue about such realities but will readily indicate that you would submit yourself to realities you have no understanding of. It's not different than saying "I would have gladly stormed the beach at Normandy if I knew I wouldn't have gotten killed." That is either called hypocrisy or stupidity...(I'll go with the latter.)

        The reality about you chickenhawks is this: You miss a couple of meals and proclaim to know what its like to be hungry; you read a few books, watch a few movies, listen to people, and proclaim to know about war; you are born to a relatively good middle income homes, have vacations each summer and meat for every meal, go to school grow up and get jobs and you proclaim that you "pulled yourself up by your bootstraps" without ever understanding what that really means; you buy a used car instead of a new one shop at Wal-Mart instead of Belks and proclaim to know about poverty; you watch a stupid television show about terrorists and hero's and proclaim to understand torture. Amazing and so utterly sad at the same time.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 05, 2009 8:58 am ET)
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        Are all girls from NJ this dumb, or just you?
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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 10:01 am ET)
           
        Here's the differences: You would know it was just waterboarding and know you're not going to drown. You would know that you were not in the hands of the enemy, but your own country. You would know that you were going to get good care.
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      • Author by captfoster2 (May 05, 2009 10:15 am ET)
           
        That's pretty tough words coming from a person who knows perfectly well he/she will never be water-boarded!

        If you really want to prove your a tough guy/girl... why not go to your local media outlet and have them get in contact with pro's who know what they are doing and have them video tape your breaking like the little weasel you are, submit it here to MMfA and shows us your abilities!!

        Or... stop coming in here and acting like your hot stuff!!!

        Water-boarding is NOT a laughing matter and people like you are pathetic for thinking it is!
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 06, 2009 11:35 am ET)
           
        Really? You would rather be tortured and put in Gitmo than live in NJ? What the hell does that say about New Jersey?
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    • Author by dave2150 (May 05, 2009 4:30 am ET)
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      well you gotta admit Garofalo is kinda annoying (;
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    • Author by John G (May 05, 2009 5:20 am ET)
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      This lady deserves any lampooning she gets. Open mouth wide, and shove in left foot. I doubt if she has the slightest idea about America's Tarp program, implications of Federal Reserve Rescue Action, fiscal policy, and other macro economic issues. Just an idiot that understands that labeling the average American concerned about the future of this country as a red neck racist will push the buttons of clueless, mindless, left-wing, big brother wards who are nothing more than pc cowards.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 05, 2009 7:51 am ET)
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        A lot of name-calling there. Facts? Not so much.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 05, 2009 9:00 am ET)
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        Just an idiot that understands that labeling the average American concerned about the future of this country as a red neck racist will push the buttons of clueless, mindless, left-wing, big brother wards who are nothing more than pc cowards.

        You've described the KARL ROVE strategy to a tee. Well done.
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      • Author by harley (May 05, 2009 9:06 am ET)
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        Just an idiot that understands that labeling the average American concerned about the future of this country as a red neck racist will .

        You are correct, teabaggers are actually properly designated as anti-American, inbred, hick, terrorist, low-life, racist, subhuman filth.
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        • Author by John G (May 05, 2009 10:07 am ET)
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          Let me guess, a flaming white liberal champion of the poor and downtrodden. Savior of those po lil gangstas from da hood being denied access to da good life in suburban America and good jobs such as global corporate accountants and investment bankers. Oh, what ever would they do with out you left wing social engineers to save them from their oppression and despair?
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 10:43 am ET)
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            Well, they'd have to deal with racists like you who probably think they are Christians. I'd rather champion people who haven't had a chance over those who are afraid of people who don't dress and talk like them.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 06, 2009 11:37 am ET)
               
            I'm sorry that a black kid in your neighborhood used to beat you up and make you cry. But, you're an adult now - it's probably time to let it go and grow up.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 05, 2009 7:52 am ET)
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      I don't think anyone has been waterboarded in any episode of 24 ever.
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    • Author by mrnick19866 (May 05, 2009 9:18 am ET)
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      Kieth olberman...now THERE'S the real joke...he wasnt even a good sports broadcaster so he thought he'd try his hand at "real" journalism??? Keep in mind i most certainly didnt vote for W, considering my idea of a federal goverment would take up all of 3 buildings in DC, but it seems that between dreaming about performing falatio on obama, and snickering, his only mission in life is to report and rant when W doesnt flush a toilet in a public restroom. I'm still waiting for the day when he'll mention ANY missteps by ANYONE remotely left leaning. That being said, I'd pay to see pelosi water-boarded....keeping in mind that if you want to see real torture, research what the japanese did to G.I.s during WW II.
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      • Author by harley (May 05, 2009 9:51 am ET)
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        What does Olbermann have to do with this thread? Why are you reich-wingers SO obsessed with him?

        By the way, Japanese were convicted of torturing US troops following WWII for using waterboarding, dolt. Don't let facts and reality stand in the way of your stupidity.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 05, 2009 11:39 am ET)
             
          The Japanese weren't merely convicted for waterboarding. They were executed for waterboarding.
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      • Author by captfoster2 (May 05, 2009 10:24 am ET)
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        "That being said, I'd pay to see Pelosi water-boarded....keeping in mind that if you want to see real torture, research what the Japanese did to G.I.s during WW II."

        So your premise here is that the water-boarding done by Americans against alleged terrorists was/is not as intense or as inhumane as that done by the Japanese to US soldiers?

        Are you stupid or something? Or just plain ignorant?

        If I hold you against your will and put hundreds of paper cuts all over your body (yes, there too)... doing so until you admit to something you didn't actually do... would that not be a form of torture?

        It's not as intense as water-boarding to be sure... but how many paper cuts until you finally break? Over time, you would... anyone would!

        The point I'm trying to make is... water-boarding done against anyone at anytime... IS TORTURE you jerk!
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 05, 2009 10:43 am ET)
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        You RW'ers obsession with KO reveals is effectiveness. I don;t blame you, I'd hate someone who called me out on all of my BS and revealed my hyposacy as well... at least I would if I relied on those things as the basis of my emplyment and political power.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 05, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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          I know it's a typo, but "hyposacy" is a great word.
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      • Author by Jurgan (May 05, 2009 10:46 am ET)
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        "I'm still waiting for the day when he'll mention ANY missteps by ANYONE remotely left leaning."

        I'm guessing you haven't seen any of the numerous episodes where he criticizes Obama on civil liberties issues, usually with Jonathan Turley. Yeah, it's happened. Here's a start:

        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30254776/

        Does "Mr. President, you are wrong" count as mentioning ANY missteps by ANYONE remotely left leaning?
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    • Author by John G (May 05, 2009 10:44 am ET)
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      So let me get this straight. If revolution comes to America, those on the left will not hold any right wing detainees without insuring they receive benefit of due process and they will absolutely assure me right wing terrorists will be treated with understanding and respect, while those on the right will wrestle any necessary information out of left wing detainees with water boarding and other less gentle means of persuasion. Okaaaaay! If you're sure thats a good idea.
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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 11:09 am ET)
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        Why do you hate America, John? Revolution? Do you hate America that much to want to start an insurrection? Can your side not win in the civil discourse battle anymore? Yes, if your scenario broke out, I would hope those on the left would uphold those values that make America the greatest country in the world. I know I believe in due process, even in cases of treason. Torture only leads to giving you what you want to hear. Bush's Pentagon doubted that torture would work:

        "The military agency that provided advice on harsh interrogation techniques for use against terrorism suspects referred to the application of extreme duress as "torture" in a July 2002 document sent to the Pentagon's chief lawyer and warned that it would produce "unreliable information."

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/24/AR2009042403171.html?hpid=topnews

        "There was no actionable intelligence gained from using enhanced interrogation techniques on Abu Zubaydah that wasn’t, or couldn’t have been, gained from regular tactics. In addition, I saw that using these alternative methods on other terrorists backfired on more than a few occasions — all of which are still classified. The short sightedness behind the use of these techniques ignored the unreliability of the methods, the nature of the threat, the mentality and modus operandi of the terrorists, and due process."

        That's from one of the interrogators of Abu Zubaydah. He even saw the tactics backfire if you read his editorial:

        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/opinion/23soufan.html?_r=1

        So, yes, if war were to break out because you on the right hate America so much that you will resort to committing war crimes, torture and violate international law, go ahead. Remember though, that you are violating everything that makes this country great if you engage in those tactics and prepare for bad information.

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        • Author by John G (May 05, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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          Oh, please accept my apology. I feel so humiliated and ashamed for what I said. Thank you so very much for enlightening me. Rest assured, from this point on I will be one of the "good guys" and be as gentle a a little kitten, and the world will be a better place, and we will all live in the land of milk and honey in complete harmony with one another. Oh, if only someone would have shown me the errors of ways early in life. Thank you, thank you oh wise and gentle soul who would govern with such justice.
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 11:56 am ET)
               
            I provided facts, not emotion, to support my point of view, can you do the same?
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            • Author by John G (May 05, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
                 
              Oh, yet another gem of wisdom. Oh tell me wise and venerable master, how do I purge these emotions that torment my soul and lead me to such a dark and troubled life? Please show me the way to attainment of peace, and love and spiritual enlightenment. Let us sing the praises of the age of Aquarius.
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              • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 12:27 pm ET)
                   
                Guess not.
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                  • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
                       
                    John,
                    I am trying to have a civil debate with you on the merits of torture. Can you do that or not?

                    If there are war criminals to be dealt with, don't you think we should use the principles that have guided our country for the past 200+ years?
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                    • Author by John G (May 05, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
                         
                      What I think about it is beside the point. I don't really know what your story is so I'm going to assume you feel you have good reason and experience to layout the rules of conduct for war. Maybe you or someone close to you is serving time in the middle east and you think harsh interrogation techniques puts them in harms way. This isn't a matter for armchair analytic s in the comfort of one's living room, but if you are concerned by waterboarding because you think it is counterproductive and putting you or a loved one in harms way, I can respect that.
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                      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
                           
                        John,
                        I laid out the reasons the Pentagon gave and what an interrogator gave, people who are authorities on this subject and who have been advising those in charge. My cousin's fiancee is headed out there. Both are beside the point. Torture is illegal and it doesn't work.
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                        • Author by foghornleghorn (May 05, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
                             
                          You must understand that john g is just another scared little bedwetter who need us to be torturing the "bad" guys so he can feel all warm and safe in his bed at night.

                          Apologists for torture are disgusting and un-American.
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      • Author by peebs755 (May 05, 2009 11:11 am ET)
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        Well that's how its played out so far. Liberals want to follow the rule of law. Conservatives, not so much.
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    • Author by mrnick19866 (May 05, 2009 11:17 am ET)
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      first of all....I dont recall ever saying I was a republican....If I ever registered as a repub or dem, just shoot me...I'd already be brain dead....second, my olberman comment was based on my occasional viewing of him as I channel surf...so If on a 10 to 1 basis he does criticize the love of his life, forgive me. Lastly, comparing waterboarding to genital mutilation, tongues cut out, etc, is a disservice to our soldiers that suffered at the hands of the japanese...the japanese performed greater acts of cruelty against their own soldiers for minor infractions than we do against terrorists. Lastly, if you cry and cave over a few dozen papercuts....well...you have my sympathy
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (May 05, 2009 6:24 pm ET)
           
        Yet another apologist for torture, which as you should know is ILLEGAL and DOESN'T WORK.

        Sheesh, the brainwashing by hate radio has apparently done its job.
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    • Author by mrnick19866 (May 05, 2009 11:18 am ET)
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      true torture is having to watch nancy pilosi and ann coulter still breathing
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      • Author by John G (May 05, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
           
        Well said Mr Nick. I'm as sick of these little democrat and republican cheerleaders as you are.
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    • Author by Thorgrim (May 05, 2009 11:26 am ET)
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      The world is not made a safer place for law abiding, peace loving people by being Mr Nice guy to the scumbag killers of the world.

      "Liberty is not to be enjoyed, indeed it cannot exist, without the habits of just subordination; it consists, not so much in removing all restraint from the orderly, as in imposing it on the violent."-
      Fisher Ames, Essay on Equality, December 15, 1801

      "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."- Winston Churchill

      Etc
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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 11:32 am ET)
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        You sure you want to quote Churchill?

        From Col. Robin Stephens, one of Churchill's top interrogators:

        "Never strike a man. It is unintelligent, for the spy will give an answer to please, an answer to escape punishment. And having given a false answer, all else depends upon the false premise.”...

        http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/churchill-vs-cheney.html

        http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6201378.ece
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        • Author by Thorgrim (May 05, 2009 11:41 am ET)
             
          I'm not arguing, just stating my point of view. I'll never win over the likes of you. I'll just let you know I'm here and be content. I'd waterboard you, if I thought you were going to kill innocent Americans. Sorry pal.
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 11:46 am ET)
               
            And I'm just saying that using Churchill to support a pro-torture stance is historically incorrect. So, as an American, if you only "thought" I would kill my fellow Americans you would waterboard me? Wow, I am very thankful you're not a cop.
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            • Author by Thorgrim (May 05, 2009 11:57 am ET)
                 
              Churchill said it, so it is correct to use that particular quote I'm afraid. If we KNEW, we wouldn't need harsh tactics to find out for sure in order to save lives. I'll defend you, the one I disagree with until my dying breath. I'll die under my flag so you can burn it and protest me. Never mind my profession though you are close to the mark, just be thankful that I'm here protecting your right to disdain me freely.
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              • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 12:03 pm ET)
                   
                I do appreciate that. Churchill said that, no doubting that, but, under much more imminent danger than we face every day, he opposed the very tactics you are supporting, so he doesn't support your views.
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              • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 05, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
                   
                Let me make this clear, I don't disdain you, however, if you are engaging in lawbreaking, I disdain that behavior.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (May 05, 2009 6:27 pm ET)
               
            waterboard you, if I thought you were going to kill innocent Americans.

            Jack Bauer - is that you? If so, please call the home office.
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