Pat Robertson suggests "ultimate conclusion" of legal same-sex marriage is legal polygamy, bestiality, child molestation, pedophilia

I recall Hitchens once describing Robertson as "smarmy, crinkly eyed and sinister." I think it sums him up perfectly.

I love this section in his biography:

"At a young age, MARION GORDON ROBERTSON was given the nickname of PAT by his 6 YEAR OLD BROTHER, Willis Robertson, Jr., who ENJOYED PATTING HIM ON THE BUTT CHEEKS WHEN HE WAS A BABY while saying "pat, pat, pat". As "Pat" got older, he thought about which first name he would like people to use. He considered "Marion" to be EFFEMINATE, and "M. Gordon" to be affected, so he opted for his childhood nickname "Pat". His STRONG AWARENESS for the importance of names in the creation of a PUBLIC IMAGE showed itself..."

Wow ... interesting - HOMOPHOBIA, INCEST, and PEDOPHILIA in one paragraph!

I'd like to apologize as a "religious persons" and say that just because a figurehead comes out and says these things does not mean that he speaks for everyone in the christian community. I am a born-again Christian and don't agree with his statements. More than anything God promotes love. I don't believe any sin to be worse than another so for them to say that homosexual sex is worse than any other thing makes me very upset. Sin is sin. God loves us all and he is the only one who is allowed to be our judge - we need to worry about ourselves and not everyone else. There is a story in the bible about a man with a plank in his eye pointing out another man with a speck in his eye and how the man with the plank in his eye doesn't even realize it's there. People need to focus on their own sins. This judgmental crap has to end.

You are exactly right. I believe it was Alan Keyes who described homosexuality as "selfish hedonism". Which pretty clearly means he would like to go down on some dude, but he has more self control than that. Almost as if he never considered the possiblity that he is gay and that some of us are actually not gay (not because we feel it is a sin) but because we just happen to be attracted to the opposite sex. I often feel pity for these people who must live their entire lives hating themselves.

Ok, don't talke this to personally, it's not meant as an attack, but these guys ask all the time, "Where are all these moderate, peaceful muslims that are supposed to condemn all the violence of the terrorists?"

So I'm going to ask you: "Where are all these moderate christians that are supposed to condemn all the bigotry of these guys?"

If they give christians a bad name, its because for too few christians are willing to stand up and tell these guys, and their followers, clearly and on no uncertain terms, to go to hell.

Well, you have to remember that these same people truly believe that nobody thought of outlawing murder until Charleton Heston came down from the mountain with those stone tablets.

Pat,

Please go away.

You've disgraced Jesus. You've disgraced yourself. You've become a laughingstock--yet again.

Just retire. Leave the day to day operation of your business to others.

I honestly think that some people just throw all sorts of things into a mental bin labeled "things I don't like", and if one thing starts to gain approval, then they think something else in the bin must be next.

People who are capable of nuanced thought, on the other hand, can identify a principle and recognize the scope of it. "Two consenting adults" is that principle here. Pedophilia? One person isn't an adult. Polygamy? More than two adults. Bestiality? "Adult" would dictate we're talking about humans. The principle at hand here simply does not apply to any of these concepts.

One has nothing to do with the other. However, I must say that I am all for decriminalizing polygamy as long as it is between consenting adults.

That's the point. 2 consenting adults cannot participate in beastiality, because the animal cannot consent. Nor can the child involved in pedophilia or child molestation. And polygamy is more than 2 adults.

not jumpin on you but what you were refering to most gay couples claim for insurance is for domestic partners and it is also available for straight couples hence the name domestic partners instead of gay couple or straight couple

sumac,
your thoughts on this subject would be much more influential if you could spell properly.
perhaps English is not your first language. however, all computers have spell check software these days.
i'm just trying to help you out and hope that my advice will help you in your future writings.
michaela

best comment ever!

Appreciate your honesty. Next time, keep it between you and God. You need to pray more.

I'm pretty sure you're not upset at all. And I'm also pretty sure you've never read the U.S. Constitution...or taken a high school-level health class on STDs...or a class studying demographics and economics.

I am SO sorry you're so ignorant.

i think that one thing that people like you seem to forget is that we live in a country where i dont have to believe in God if i choose not to. i have the freedom to believe in nothing and my being able to take care of the person i love has nothing to do with answering to your God. not angry at all, just confused about what year this is and why homosexuality is even still an issue... An animal cannot vocalize whether he wants to be fondled by some lunatic, a child cannot fathom why grass is green and not purple let alone consent to marriage.

"Do you really think homosexuality is ALLOWED in any religion? That God - whoever he may to each one of you - is HAPPY with it?"

This has nothing to do with legal gay marriage. As has been pointed out, I'm not required to believe in God. Even more importantly, I'm not required to believe in your portrayal of God.

"There is no doubt that this act i.e. homosexuality, which goes against the pure human nature, by making men content with men and women with women, destroying families, adversely affecting the birth rate, causing the spread of killer diseases, and generally spreading corruption on earth, should be uprooted and stamped out."

I'm curious what you think the cause of homosexuality is. It's been around since Biblical times, and even with all the efforts to stamp it out, it's still around. Why? If it's really unnatural and just a question of chosen behavior, wouldn't it have been virtually eradicated a couple thousand years ago? Perhaps you think it's the work of the devil or something. It wouldn't destroy families if people were allowed to do it, because then nobody would be compelled to marry someone of the opposite sex out of a desire to be accepted. Heterosexual sex spreads disease as well, and the birth rate is doing just fine. And since homosexuality has been around since Biblical times, and we have six billion people on the planet today, obviously that's never been a concern at all.

"Nowadays the society/media and the governments claim that man should be able to do whatever he wants, no matter how perverse. They support lesbians, homosexuals and bisexuals, and religious deviance. They regard it as a human right to disbelieve in whatever religions one wants and to express one’s opinion, without any fear or shame."

Religious deviance? Do you really disagree with the notion that people have the right to disbelieve in any or all religion?

"Look at little 12 year old boys committing suicide because they were thought of as gay or were gay and ridiculed ... look at what the media has done."

Maybe if you accepted homosexuality they wouldn't be killing themselves. It would seem your attitude is the entire problem. Besides, if they're such a blight on society and such Godless trash anyway, why do you care if they're dead?

"There is nothing moral about homosexuality. It is a sinful deed. We can laugh and make fun of people who are still living in the "ancient" times and people who believe that God hates this deed, but at the end of the day, wake up and THINK. For once in your lives, think about yourself and wonder how you will face your creator. You dont have to answer to anyone now, your sexuality choice is between you and God."

Again, that's your personal view and you're welcome to it. It has no bearing on what society accepts, though, since the general population is not required to believe in Biblical morality. You could believe that it's immoral to eat shellfish as well, but without some secular justification a law to that effect would be a joke.

"What Robertson said was true, now that we are allowing homo marriages, what will we allow next? Bestiality? 10 years from now there will be new media uproars and people will want to "marry" their animal partner."

Liberals won't embrace it. It's animal cruelty. There's no slippery slope to be had here. Any two consenting adults should be able to marry. It was the principle fought for with interracial marriage, and it's the principle being fought for today. There's no basis for claiming some bizarre mutation of that principle is going to gain any traction.

Not angry - just sad that your understanding of human adult spirituality and sexuality is so willfully twisted.

Your comments display great bigotry and ignorance - and repeat already discounted fear mongering.

Gay / Bi / Straight adult human sexuality is a beautiful thing that we can share.

To bring animals or children into the conversation is childish and manipulative .... the worst part would be that you take no responsiblity for the pain and suicides your public message make lead to.

I love the part in the Bible where it says "We are not fit for communion with God until we examine our hearts whether we harbor anger against any person. If we are the offended one we are to make short work of it, "And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses," - MAR 11:25.

And you know what the bible says about divorce, so why isn't Pat demanding the end of divorced people being remarried??? This is a much bigger reason marriage is so worthless now a days. Matthew 19:9

So then you are for polygamy, right? Oh, you have just never read the Bible. Got it.

Really? Detrimental in what way, exactly?

It's hard to imagine polygamy becoming legal either. The only group that would even be expected to rally behind that are Mormons, and it's been grounds for excommunication within that church for well over a century. I just don't know who's going to make that push.

Polygamy is a problem mostly because it's inherently abusive to women (as that's the typical arrangement, multiple wives). It's an unequal pairing. As if that wasn't bad enough, some wives would have to have higher legal standing than others. What if some guy dies with no will and four wives? Or even worse, a power of attorney situation if he's in a coma? My understanding is that the first wife typically has dominion over all following wives, the second wife has dominion over the wives that followed her, etc. That would become cemented in law for these purposes, making for societal recognition of lower-class citizens.

What I find to be the main reason it will never be legal is that it's absolutely unnecessary. Like you said, adults can do what they want with other adults. Two people can get married, and then have as many unofficial added partners as they like. If the first one leaves, he or she can marry the next in line. So they can have their arrangement if they like, but the state doesn't need to go through the trouble of legally recognizing it. That's a huge difference between polygamy and gay marriage, since there is no alternate solution for gay partners seeking full legal recognition and equality.

In fact, I believe that the Biblical Jesus was silent on the matter of homosexuality, but specifically condemned divorce.

I'm with you Bradshaw Matthew 19:9

ok hypocrite... you're calling us the hateful mongers yet you are agreeing with the complete BS coming out of this man's mouth and calling perez hilton a "whiny ass, gay bitch."

"It's horrible what's happening to Ms. California"

What you mean you think the boob job doesn't look good
or the naked pics aren't clear enough?

Ms California is a media whore, she knew she wouldn't win but
with her answer she knew she would get lots and lots of coverage....
and probably a playboy spread.

this guy is a disgrace to the human race. people are allowed to have viewpoints but for this man to make ignorant comments like that makes me sick

oh no, this goes much earlier than that. With Adam and Eve being first people, how did their children populate the earth?