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Buchanan has "no problem" with legacy systems, says "working class whites" are "the ones discriminated most today"

May 07, 2009 6:30 pm ET

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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (May 07, 2009 7:04 pm ET)
         
      I saw this on Hardball and just shook my head as Pat Buchanan ranted on with his statements of white pride. Pat is definitely 'old school'.
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    • Author by Übermensch (May 07, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
         
      I think Pat has a friend... found it here
      Interesting read from a few years ago

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    • Author by mjh (May 07, 2009 7:43 pm ET)
         
      Maybe Patty doesn't have a problem with "legacy systems" . . . but, seeing as how Dumbya got into both Yale and the White House due to legacies, I have, well, a bit of one . . .
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    • Author by billb11145566 (May 07, 2009 9:06 pm ET)
         
      Buchanan makes a good point. I guess the truth hurts.
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    • Author by fairliberal (May 07, 2009 9:08 pm ET)
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      Pat may have a point here...... There's no question that their race and skin color were the driving motivation behind the decision not to promote them," Torre says of the white firefighters.
      http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103289178
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      • Author by solon (May 07, 2009 9:52 pm ET)
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        IF you have no problem with legacies but decry affirmative action you are saying that you are all FOR programs that help the already priveledged but are against programs that help the underpriveledged. It really is that simple
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        • Author by fairliberal (May 07, 2009 10:35 pm ET)
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          To deny people promotions on the basis that minorities did not score as well is just as bad as the policies of the past that kept minorities from advancing. If the minorities did not score as well they should not get the promotions. Barack Obama is proof of the fact that minorities who apply themselves have the same opportunities as anyone else today. It is really that simple. Are you saying that the white applicants who scored better are priveledged. Perhaps they are just better qualified. It certainly seems so in the case I cited.
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          • Author by Nquest (May 08, 2009 2:08 am ET)
               
            Until you deal with the issue at hand and talk about what former Pres. G. W. Bush was proof of, all you've done is shown how you've can't "apply" yourself. It's as simple as that.

            [Hint: G. W. Bush is the anti-thesis to the stereotype-laden mythology you're trying to push about the "same opportunities."]

            Also, no one said that "If the minorities did not score as well they should get the promotions." That's not what happened and that's not anything close to what anyone has advocated for. It's as simple as that.

            Further, until you can talk about what happened on previous promotional tests at New Haven fire which obviously resulted in minorities scoring well enough to be promoted in the past given the numbers... Well, until you can do that, you have nothing credible to say on the topic.
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          • Author by solon (May 08, 2009 2:18 am ET)
               
            We will leave your strawman argument to twist in the wind and get back to the TOPIC. You DO know what a TOPIC is? That is Pat saying he has no problem with legacies then snivelling about affirmative action. Legacies are NOT of the past they are happening RIGHT NOW. If you have no problem with THEM, how many people who got better grades and SAT scores DIDNT get into Yale while Bush got in as a legacy, you are flat out saying that you SUPPORT programs that help the priveleged and only oppose programs that help the UNDERPRIVELEGED. This isnt that complicated.
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