Scarborough: "Nancy Pelosi's also glad these [detainee] pictures are not coming out because ... all those pictures fall on her shoulders"

The Obama administration is indeed complicate in the torture that Bush and Cheney authorized due to Obama's reversal regarding the release of the photos. That does not, however, make Joe's claim anything more than a pathetic and nonsensical partisan statement.

It's a rhetorical summation...you know...like Rush Limbaugh does every day when he accuses Democrats of hating America and wanting to destroy successful people.

Is there something inaccurate in the statement? Is that not the essence of the Republican position? If not, why not?

The ACLU is hardly the left, unless you count defending Rush and Hannity to be a left-wing tactic.

Ok first off - it's put in "quotes" for satirical purposes - you're acting like a dolt asking what you did about it.

Second - once again you righties fail. You say "Obama is complicit" as if that's some kind of criticism. But he's only in the wrong in as much as he is complisit WITH YOUR PARTY AND THEIR NEFARIOUS DEALINGS. SO even as you criticise HIM, you are admiting the truth of the same critiques against YOU. You know what? Lib's DO think he should release everything. It's only CON'S (and hardly all of them) that want it all hidden

Even if all that is true, what's she guilty of? Hypocrisy? Cowardice? Compared to the abyss that Darth Cheney is peering into, I'll take that any day.

Being silent (ad thus implying consent) is not the same thing as creating, authoring, and actively pushing for the policy being criticised. She did whatever she did (right or wrong) for her own reasons. It may have shown poor judgement (or more liekly just pragmatic judgement), but poor judhement is not a crime. Authorizting (indeed ORDERING) people to be tortured IS. You find a set of orders authorizing torture with her signiture on it? I'll be the loudest one calling for her ouster and indigtment. Otherwise you are just accusing her of being a politician. I for one don't want to punnish the silent republicans either. Just the LOUD ones. Just the ones directly involved.

So did Harman stop torture with her letter? Slow it down? Did it even cause Cheney to hiccup? How do you think adding Pelosi's name to the letter would have changed anything? Especially since making anything public would violate secrecy. Your argument is either naive or plain ignorant of the relevant circumstances.

Secondly, Pelosi says she was not briefed on the use of waterboarding. Harman says Harman was briefed about waterboarding in detail and she protested. Because the meetings were secret, if Harman or her staff shared any information with anyone else (including Pelosi or her staff), it would have been a leak. A violation of secrecy.

I do not see how there was anything the Democrats could have done to stop torture - considering Harman's only real possible recourse was a secret letter on a secret subject that apparently went straigh into the Oval Offices oval file.

This is not nearly as clear cut as Republicans want people to believe. Give me a break.