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Beck claims struggling states are in danger of "los[ing] their sovereignty" because federal gov't will "nationalize" them

May 18, 2009 1:14 pm ET

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    • Author by DAWUSS (May 18, 2009 1:20 pm ET)
         
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    • Author by Max Credits (May 18, 2009 1:22 pm ET)
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      Today's financial news is very far from being in compliance with Beck's current hallucination.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (May 18, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
           
        Maybe he wants them to mint their own money, too.

        BTW, aren't the states alraedy nationalized? I thought that was the whole idea in 1776 or so?
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    • Author by Leftym0m79 (May 18, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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      What the...Seriously...He's a loon. I can't even begin to point out the ways and reasons why this is ludicrous.
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      • Author by Max Credits (May 18, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
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        Hey now, Glenn Beck's been to almost 10 different US countries, he should know what he's talking about!
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (May 18, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
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        I'll give you one-- any time someone uses a blackboard to make points, and then fills it all up, they're a crackpot.

        Beck is seriously deranged-- I never would have thought that, but his audience shows have become completely nuts.

        He exhibits classic psychotic behavior in the way he jumbles around all sorts of disparate points, all at the same time. The first 30 seconds or so he's alright, then he immediately goes awry with the non sequiturs. He really does need some specialized help.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 18, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck, great American. Just doesn't think that there's any STATES in these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Apparently treason and seccession is fine and dandy when the democrats are in office. These guys are such scumbags. Such traitors, filthy, stupid, unpricipled, hypocritical SCUMBAGS.
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (May 18, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
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    • Author by ewl94232 (May 18, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
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      Are there NO intelligent Leftists that visit this site? Seriously! Is it really possible that none of you are aware of this issue? Is it really true, you think that Beck is making this up?

      I'm beginning to accept that the Right's characterizations of MMFA are right. Please shake that belief! Please show me some awareness of the thinking of the other side. Please show that at least some among you have actually even listened to what Beck is saying ... agree with it or not. Please show me that any of you are not just echos of the MMFA version of reality.

      In fact, please show me that any of you even know what the issue is.
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      • Author by Max Credits (May 18, 2009 2:34 pm ET)
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        Well, when you put it that way.
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      • Author by worrierking (May 18, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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        Some bedwetting wingnut comes up with some moronic threat of states losing their sovereignty and being nationalized and you think we need our heads examined?

        OK, how would this be done under the constitution? Explain the exact government mechanics of how it would come about.
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      • Author by solon (May 18, 2009 2:38 pm ET)
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        I dont know why you keep denigrating the intelligence of the posters here when YOURS is completely lacking. Of course WE know what the issue is here. It is Beck being an idiot and not knowing what he is talking about. Feel free to give us the brainwashed Limborgian version.

        Definition of soveriegn
        1 a: one possessing or held to possess sovereignty b: one that exercises supreme authority within a limited sphere

        Since states CANNOT pass laws or even allow their constitutions to over rule Federal LAW much less THE constitution no definition of soveriegnity fits States they are NOT soveriegn they have THEIR authority but it is NOT supreme it CANNOT overrule federal authority it really is that simple. If you want to argue this or that falls under THEIR jurisidiction instead of Federal jurisdiction that is a completely different argument. Beck is an idiot. You can TRY to convince us his idiocy is being smart and WE are the ones that dont get it but all you are doing, as with most of your posts, is embarassing yourself since a WHOLE BUNCH of the posters here are in fact VERY intelligent. Moreso in fact than anything you have EVER written suggests YOU are.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (May 18, 2009 3:46 pm ET)
           
        Please show that at least some among you have actually even listened to what Beck is saying ... agree with it or not.

        The reason why Beck is wrong is that this federalization complaint became antique over 100 years ago. The complexity of the world makes state soverignty impossible these days-- and the courts have consistently ruled this way for the last 75 years or so.

        This complaint has also been-- like, say, floridation of water-- a classic crank issue, and it's unfortunate that it is reappearing under a new guise. What sovereignty fans never recognize is their hypocrisy, too, in selectively accepting federal dollars at the same time they excoriate the federal government.

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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 18, 2009 4:21 pm ET)
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        I listen to Beck all the time. I think he's hilarious. He demonstrates a keen lack of understanding regarding just about anything he's talking about.

        As for this issue? Can you (or Beck) really offer any evidence AT ALL that the States are somehow losing some actual power that they currently posses? (You know... IN REALITY, not just is your and Glenn's minds.)
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      • Author by Bronwyn (May 18, 2009 7:16 pm ET)
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        Like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Rielly Glenn Beck is bought and owned by Rupert Murdoch. Do some research on Rupert and learn why he became an American citizen in the first place. Learn why he is such friends wih China etc., etc. It has been proven that he often dictates what his mouth pieces will say on air and in print. He only hires idiots to serve his own agenda. The few Democrats that have worked for him are "token" and weak. There only purpose is to sit there and be shouted down by the far right. The strong decent ones end up quiting.
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        • Author by latanza (May 19, 2009 10:28 am ET)
             
          You know your adversaries! Now, what kind of news journalisms are these to be thrown into the puppet ring. They will never break a "Watergate". I wonder if this is why the "Waterboarding" issue never came up. Maybe it was strategy. Even so, there should be some competitive interest that denounces the oppressed views of Fox. I feel sorry for the reporters because they forgot the 4 functions and 5 ethics of the trade. To perform them to the standard they were meant, it would take heart and excellent thought and communication capabililty. This says a lot about media period!!!!!!!!!! This is reflective of the miscommunication between people and politics. After so many lies, the truth will always be distorted. After so many times the pattern is set is stone. Is this a war between networks or is this the American people being given honest accounts of events and perspectives; choices and options. NO! This is a pageant where everyone will lose because no one stood for anything but make-up, lights, camera's, and fetish action.

          I applaud your vocalization because there is exposure to a real issue! There is journalism! There is an issue worth exploring! There is a problem worth fixing! There is somebody not controlled by FOX! GO MEAT!
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    • Author by latanza (May 18, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
         
      Actually. it may come to that if the public trust violations, misappropriations of funds don't cease, and accountability efforts are launched. You won't be able to slip through the cracks. The most intelligent and most dedicated will be running those cities and states and when higher authorities call for balanced accounts and transparency there will be no GOB network to put a spin on it. You must know that the problem is greater than once thought. Are we rapidly approaching "you will not be able to buy, sell, or trade" as well? Let me know so that I can fill my Mason jars!
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    • Author by mjh (May 18, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
         
      Beck claims struggling states are in danger of "los[ing] their sovereignty" because federal gov't will "nationalize" them

      Which would prevent them from doing -- what, Glenn?

      Forming a "more perfect Union??

      OH, NO!!

      What. An. Idiot.


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