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Halperin cites concerns that terrorists would target "neighborhoods" or "states" to help detainees escape U.S. prisons

May 21, 2009 1:33 pm ET

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    • Author by nerzog (May 21, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
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      Does this sound really stupid to anybody but me? I think these guys have watched too many movies.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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        Or played too many video games.
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      • Author by markbfoot199 (May 21, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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        Nerzog, what prison were the highjackers being held in before they attack us? What about the port when the attacked the U.S.S. Cole. Even the guys the arrested for plotting to blow up a mosque, they were in an American prison (same prison you would like to move current terrorist into, for them to recruit more) and recruited into Muslim hatred. (In Gitmo, no recruiting, they already hate us.) The movies you need to stop watching are Sounds of Music and anything Michael Moore puts out. You’re one of the most naive individuals I think I have ever come across. There are really bad folks out there that want you and myself dead. Dead because we are not Muslim, then again you may be muslin. They would cut off your head for even have a different opinion. They stone women because they look at a man wrong. These individuals do not care who was in Gitmo, who the President is, they only respect those that have strength, and right now you and your ike are not helping us. When the next terror attack happens and it will, it will be on Obama’s hands and folks like yourself.
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        • Author by nerzog (May 21, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
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          You can go change your pants now.... we'll wait.


          "These individuals do not care who was in Gitmo"



          If they don't care, then why would they be more likely to attack if we move them to a domestic prison?

          And, if they recruit more people while in prison, does that really matter? Those people are already rotten to the core. Are they more of a threat to society if they become Muslims? Would Charles Manson be any more dangerous if he prayed to Allah?
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        • Author by nerzog (May 21, 2009 2:23 pm ET)
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          "what prison were the highjackers being held in before they attack us"


          What the hell are you talking about? If they were in prison, how did they buy the plane tickets? Did they escape from an American prison? Please explain the relevance of this question.
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          • Author by robyn20094113 (May 21, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
               
            In fact some of them went to flight school right here in the USA. Authorities were warned about these guys learning to pilot a plane but not interested in learning how to land a plane. Just one of the many warnings the Bush Administration ignored while keeping us safe before 9/11.

            Yep, we trained them to fly those planes and many more that we have not heard from yet. When we do that will be Obamas fault?


            P.S. They were not prisoners while in flight school.
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          • Author by markbfoot199 (May 21, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
               
            Nerzog, you really need to listen to what these men were speaking about, the subject of the story is moving Gitmo Prisoners to the U.S., did you watch. Because are are so blind, your pic is perfect by the way, blind!. SO let me make it very, very easy for you since my points where to high level for you. Sure you are a product of a liberal schooling. 1. The Highjackers hated American, there was no war at the time, there were no prisons for their brothers to be held in to make the want to kill us, they killed Americans because they hate Americans PERIOD. 2. Not sure if you are aware of these things, but when folks go to prison they do not stay forever, they do get out. So, if a Terrorist were to brain wash a indiviudal that is getting out soon to hate American, they may kill you. Give you a hint, in the news recently, you can do it, take off the mask, put down your kool aid and read about the folks captured in New York.

            Nerzog, I am sure more and more everyday you are double thinking your choice on President, you can admit it, I know you want to, this guy is clueless. Joe Biden is so bad, they had to send him out of the country. HA HA So sad for Obama, Cheney comes out and schools Obama with only two interviews, make Obama look like a fool in only a week, just wait till there is real push back. Obama has a hard time with the word NO!.
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            • Author by nerzog (May 21, 2009 4:08 pm ET)
                 
              The only person Cheney is making look like a fool is Cheney... plus all the Troglodytes who are defending him.

              1. You're defeating your own argument, Marky. If, as you say, they hate us for being Americans, then how would moving the prisoners to the U.S. make them any more likely to attack us? In fact, what can we do to stop them except nuke the Muslim world? Would that make you feel safe?

              2. Not sure if you're aware of these things, but some people do stay in prison forever. If you're so scared that these evildoers will brainwash other prisoners to be even worse evildoers, then isolate them! Prisons do it all the time.

              Really, Marky, you should stop watching reruns of 24 and get out more.
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            • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (May 21, 2009 7:40 pm ET)
                 
              Not sure if you are aware of these things, but when folks go to prison they do not stay forever, they do get out. So, if a Terrorist were to brain wash a indiviudal that is getting out soon to hate American, they may kill you.

              YOU need an education in America's Supermax prison.

              7ft by 12ft cell, steel door and steel grate along with with a window (only shows the sky) which is designed to prevent the prisoner from knowing their location. Confined to these cells, 23 hours a day. The ONE hour of exercise is taken ALONE in a concrete walled yard. The furniture is made almost entirely out of poured concrete, including the desk, stool, and bed. Each cell contains a toilet that shuts off if plugged, a shower that runs on a timer to prevent flooding, and a sink missing a potentially dangerous tap. Cells may also be fitted with polished steel mirrors bolted to the wall, an electric light, a radio, and a television set that shows recreational, educational and religious programming. Telecommunication with the outside world is forbidden, and food is hand-delivered by correctional officers. These privileges can be taken away as punishment.

              And as far as the residents closest to ADX Florence?
              The residents in Florence's surrounding area, Fremont County, welcomed the prison as a source of employment in a time of economic hardship. At the time, the county was already home to nine existing prisons. However, the lure of between 750 to 900 permanent jobs, in addition to another 1,000 temporary jobs during the prison's construction, led residents in the area to raise $160,000 to purchase 600 acres (2.4 km2) for the new prison. Hundreds of people attended the groundbreaking construction of ADX Florence, which cost over $60 million.


              Here is a small portion of the folks housed in ADX Florence Supermax prison:

              Abdul Hakim Murad, of al-Qaeda's Operation Bojinka
              Ahmed Ajaj, of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
              Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, Al Qaeda conspirator in several plots, including one to assassinate U.S. President George W. Bush
              Ahmed Ressam, of the 2000 millennium attack plots
              Clement Rodney Hampton-El, a.k.a. Dr. Rashid, of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
              El Sayyid Nosair, of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
              Ibrahim Elgabrowny, of the New York City landmark bomb plot
              Iyman Faris, also of the NYC landmark plot, sentenced to 20 years in 2003
              James Ujaama, who tried to develop an al-Qaeda camp in Oregon
              Jeff Fort, he is currently imprisoned on drug trafficking charges. He is also the only American citizen ever convicted of terrorism for hire.
              John Walker Lindh, dubbed "The American Taliban"
              Jose Padilla, 20796-424, convicted of aiding terrorists
              Khalfan Khamis Mohamed, participant in the 1998 United States embassy bombings
              Mahmud Abouhalima, of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
              Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-Owhali, of the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings
              Mohammed A. Salameh, of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
              Mohammed Ali Hassan Al-Moayad, would-be financier of al-Qaeda and Hamas, serving 75 years
              Mohammed Odeh is one of the four former al-Qaeda members sentenced to life imprisonment in 2001 for their parts in the 1998 United States embassy bombings.
              Mohammed Mansour Jabarah A Canadian convicted of terrorism-related offences
              Nidal Ayyad, of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
              Omar Abdel-Rahman, 34892-054, al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya mentor, nicknamed "The Blind Sheik", serving life for his part in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
              Ramzi Yousef, 03911-000, of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and Operation Bojinka, senior al-Qaeda member
              Richard Reid, 24079-038, al-Qaeda's would-be "Shoe Bomber"
              Terry Nichols, 08157-031, Oklahoma City bombing conspirator
              Wadih el-Hage, 42393-054, of the 1998 United States embassy bombings in Africa
              Zacarias Moussaoui, 51427-054, of the September 11, 2001 attacks
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        • Author by solon (May 21, 2009 2:23 pm ET)
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          Yes there are people that bad out there. Got some evidence that each and every prisoner in Gitmo is among them? Of course we KNOW they arent the military has already classified some of them as not combatants at all. Bottom line. Your being scared of the scary brown people is not a good enough reason to SCRAP the rule of law in America.
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          • Author by nerzog (May 21, 2009 2:38 pm ET)
               
            How do people like Marky ever venture forth from their mother's basement? It's such a scary world out here.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 2:57 pm ET)
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          You're an idiot. The highjakcers DID NOT excape from a US Prison. NO TERRORIST HAS EVER ESCAPED FORM A US PRISON. (If you think they have: PROOVE IT.) What's more, it's not a crime to be "bad." It's not even a crime to want to commit crimes. It's a crime to actually COMMIT CRIMES. If these guys have actually COMMITED CRIMES, they will go to PRISON where they belong. If they haven't, then they will be released: WHICH IS AS IT SHOULD BE. By your standard, I could put YOU in jail, just because I think your "bad" or "uncivilized." The THRUTH of that opinion is irrelevant. We don't put people in jail for belonging to a religion or coming from a backwards country.

          STRENGTH? You wouldn't know strength if it gave you a wedgie. STRENGTH comes from the rule of law. It comes form teh absense of fear. It comes from our moral fortitude and our freedom and our constitution and our libertarian ideals. You bedwetters want to destroy all that makes us great out of shear, utter cowardice. You are a coward, and you are a TRAITOR to American values.
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        • Author by dmhack (May 22, 2009 3:02 am ET)
             
          You missed conjuring up the image of the terrorists roaming freely through small town America.
          The reality is that the Gitmo guys will end up in prison. They'll very likely spend the rest of their days locked away in solitary. They won't escape, nor will their buddies hatch some plot to free them.

          And frankly, every time I hear or read someone like you basically hoping for another attack on the US so you can be proven right about your Obama paranoia, I have to wonder what kind of American you really are?
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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      What frickin' video game did he get that idea from?! Why would they go through all that toruble when they've god MILLIONS of people living in poverty and prostrating themselves for Allah in any number of god-forsaken thrid world sh!tholes? Al-Qaueda is not that hurting for new recruits! They might take a few hostages and demand that some people be released, BUT THEY CAN DO THAT NOW! (I think they've already doen it, no?) And their plea is a lot more sympathetci when the detainees are being held iwthout CHARGE or TRIAL!!!
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      • Author by nerzog (May 21, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
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        You're right, of course.

        Let's be honest here. The Republicans are doing this for one reason only... to scare their way back into power. It's all bullsh*t and they know it.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 2:59 pm ET)
             
          And you're right too, except for one thing: I'm not sure they ALL know it's bullsh*t. I think some of these bedwetters are actaully dumb enough, and backwards ewnough, and cowardly enough to actually BELIEVE their own bullsh*t. ;)
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