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Not that I've ever seen or expected healthy debate on his show, especially when he just shouts his (wrong) opinion over those of his guests and cuts off their mics!
And there goes another rich-wing white guy comparing his plight to that of African-Americans.
He doesn't seem to realize that what he thinks libel is does not match the actual legal definition. He thinks his opinion of libel trumps the law.
*facepalm*
"Cut Tanya! Keep quiet!"
"I don't dish it out, madam! I don't do that!"
I can't think of enough expletives to throw at this a**hole.
Someone call the waahmbulance.
So, President Obama shrewdly nominated a judge who will most likely be confirmed, and whose presence could very well damage the Republican Party in the process."
In case you missed it, it was in his Talking Out of His Ass segment.
What Bill O'Reilly and Keith Olbermann do is called trashing.
'Pinheads.' 'Worst Person In the World.' The shouting, the needling, the sniping.
It's their schtick. They trash. Viewers know that's what they're going to see when they tune in. That's why they tune in. And who you tune in to comes down to who it is you want to see get trashed.
But O'Reilly going on the air and moaning about someone doing to him what he makes a good living doing to others puts him squarely in pinhead territory.
The recipients of his ire all cringe when Keith gets going. Why? Because they don't have a leg to stand on and they know it. All they can do is whimper and whine about being attacked.
Don't go equating KO with BO. This is apples and oranges.
Both shows feature news commentary and opinion, both are hosted by men who are acerbic and confrontational in style.
If you plopped someone who doesn't speak English in front of a TV and made them watch O'Reilly and Olbermann, then asked them what the differences are between the two programs, you'd be hard pressed to hear of many other than the fact that Olbermann is 10 years younger, still has his hair, and is better looking than O'Reilly.
Bill has got to be looking over his shoulder right about now, because his reign at the top of the FNC hosty food chain is no longer as assured as it was even a year ago.
Hannity's show is very similar in style to O'Reilly, but he's an amateur by comparison - BO has been honing his unihost skills for years, whereas Hannity until recently had to deal with the reasoned counterpoint of Colmes.
And this Glenn Beck character who came out of the nowhere of HLN and started getting great numbers from the get-go has got to be giving Bill pause. If Beck can avoid what seems to be an inevitable nervous breakdown or some other psychotic breakdown (a sick day after he was trashed on The View? Please.), he might in time be a real threat to O'Reilly as a goofy counterpoint to BO's overbearing pomposity.
But back to the original topic, O'Reilly seems to have a real persecution complex about how he is portrayed in the media. Limbaugh has the same problem, given his plea to MSNBC to stop talking about him (fat chance).
If they can't take the heat...
Hypocrisy .. its what it means to be a liberal.
Bill IS a racist!!!
During the September 19 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, discussing his recent trip to have dinner with Rev. Al Sharpton at Sylvia's, a famous restaurant in Harlem, Bill O'Reilly reported that he "had a great time, and all the people up there are tremendously respectful," adding: "I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship."
Later, during a discussion with National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams about the effect of rap on culture, O'Reilly asserted: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun
I think you need to read those comments again. They don't mean what you think they mean.
I'll be right here when you're ready to apologize for your lack of reading comprehension.
No, it's not. I'm no lawyer (though I'm married to one), but it seems to me that both you and Billdo are confusing what you would like the law to be with what it is. His insistence that being called out is being libeled and your claim that he conduct was criminal are both emotional silliness(es).
Lousy proofreading. Sorry.
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn..The combination of two violent crimes: assault (the threat of violence) and battery (physical violence). This legal distinction exists only in jurisdictions that distinguish assault as threatened violence rather than actual violence
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assault_and_battery................ and intimidation is what?
i am not a lawyer, i am a senior at a college- but i rest my case. :)
BillO shouldn't have wagged his finger in the face of the lady lawyer as she was right when she said that BillO should expect this kind of thing being that he dishes it out himself. He calls people on the left loons, he said Soros ought to be hanged and called Gabler a rabid dog who should be fired from his job at FOX. Thursday night he called Gov. Schwarzenneger (sp?) pinhead for his joke about Rush's weight. How hypocritical is that coming from BillO who said Helen Thomas sounds like a witch?
BillO is just projecting. He does personal attacks too but isn't man enough to be honest and admit it. He's a coward.
Poor oppressed O'Reilly!
Yes, it has gotten noticeably weirder. I mean, with the election of Obama, wealthy, powerful conservative men like O'Reilly and Beck are so downtrodden nowadays I'm thinking about writing them a reparations check!
And this time you have included the "witty" name "Dimocrats." Your previous link was six years old. I am sorry I did not realize at the time that it was older than you are emotionally.
Did you just cite an article written in 2003 as your source of those "wealthy dimocrats" who are screwing things up currently? The same 2003 where Shrub controlled the White House and the Repiglicans controlled both the House and Senate? The same Repiglicans in 2003 who gave us the current recession we're in now? (And, no, you can't blame this one on Jimmy Carter, Barney Frank and the so-called "radical left" boogie man George Soros, this time. Sowwie!)
Then you top it off by citing an article posted at Freeperville?!
My, my, my fairliberal, even Stephen Colbert himself couldn't rival that masterful display of self-parody! Bravo! You out-did yourself there, pod'ner!
And it was dimocratic social engineering that led to out current economic problems along with a number of other issues that both parties must bear the blame for.
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn if a politician is wealthy or not; nor do I care who remains the wealthiest among our political elite. The last aristocratic Democrat who was president brought us out the Great Depression and saved your beloved Capitalism from the gutter. A president who remains highly regarded by those who lived through those tough times; someone who is regarded as a working-man's president, despite his patrician upbringing and background. Therefore if Democrats are more wealthy than Repiglicans, yet they deliver Universal Health Care, pull this country out of a recession, rebuilding our poor schools, push and deliver clean energy and green jobs, etc., I doubt the American public will care whether those Democrats are wealthy or not. What they will care about is making sure that Repiglicans aren't holding important positions in our government for a very, very long time! Trust!
Finally, I think we can all agree on this: you moaning and whining about "dimocrats" on this site isn't going to change the Repiglicans' permanent minority status as a retrograded, intellectually bankrupt, outdated party whose next stop is next to the Whigs as party no existence. I'm so sowwie. I know that's tough news to bare, but someone has to break it to ya! Toodles!
From your post....Yes, it has gotten noticeably weirder. I mean, with the election of Obama, wealthy, powerful conservative men like O'Reilly and Beck are so downtrodden nowadays I'm thinking about writing them a reparations check!
Fauxliberal, I don't think I mentioned anything about wealthy politicians. I singled out wealthy, loudmouth. media hucksters Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck (throw Flush Limpballs in that group, too) because they continue to whine and moan about how victimized and oppressed they are as wealthy, powerful, conservative white men, making bleeding-heart lefties such as myself feel sorry for them! With Beck telling us that Obama is turning many of them into slaves, and O'Reilly having his rights violated by those evil libs, the shining city on the hill has quickly become a hot plantation for Beck and Bill!
As a middle-class (barely!) struggling college student, my heart goes out to them...truly! We should've known right from the beginning allowing that IslamoStalinist to win the White House would infringe on their rights to...er...what is it that they're losing again?
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i29139
Good to see you back also, Preston.
I've produced some new work and have a couple more in the pipeline.
The co-op gallery I'm with is pushing The 1st Annual Kingston (Wa) Slug Hunt. I've hand painted 16 of the prey, porcelain bananna slugs, the last as a sidewheeler steamboat ferry.
That was an underhanded insult that didn't give them credit for why they were there....which essentially was 2 smart lawyers who knew the rule of law.
That was the one FACT that Bilbo needed his audience to discard.
Perhaps one day, after you cure yourself of the embarrassing illiteracy you exhibit here every day, you will have the standing to judge someone else's mental capabilities. But that day is far in the future.
Until then, all you can do is stand on the sidelines, grabbing handfuls of the contents of your diaper, and flinging them at your betters.
At that, you may be better than anyone else on the site. But it certainly isn't anything to be proud of.
The Constitution prohibits the GOVERNMENT from censoring you. Has that EVER happened to Bill?
Tort laws (you know, the "frivolous lawsuits" the right is also whining about) protect you from libel and slander (BTW Bill, just so you don't sound like an idiot, if it's in print, it's libel. If it's spoken, it's slander). Libel is not criticizing you, you whiny butt. Even if it's severe criticism. And as a public figure, you have less protection.
Civil Rights Laws protect certain classes against discrimination (as in your lame example). You can not discriminate in housing or the workplace on the basis of race, religion, gender or age (alas, sexual orientation is not protected). You can say a person is a bigot; you can even BE a bigot. You just can't fire someone because of your bigotry.
You'd think someone with a college degree could understand these issues. But you'd think someone with an audience (nightly) of 3 million wouldn't whine about being picked on by the Denver Post.
I almost feel sorry for the incompetent SOB. Almost.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?
He's an entertainer and the people ain't buying his shtick any more, and not a moment too soon!!!
And as for Carrie Prejean, whom he mentioned at one point in this section, pardon me for going off on a tangent, because her claim of having her free speech attack really bugs me. Perez Hilton asks her a question (which he is in fact SUPPOSED to do, as it is part of his JOB), she answers the question, and he doesn't like the answer, which, if you actually watched his infamous video, you'll see is because he honestly thought it was a bad answer, so he grades her down, which is also part of his job. And she comes in second, boo hoo on her. In no way was her free speech infringed upon, unless you want to argue that she has a right to free speech and Perez doesn't. Again, when she goes onto TV interview shows and signs up to do ads for NOM, she can't go all waaah waah because other people don't like what she says, unless again you want to argue that she has a right to free speech and they don't.
What a putz!
Thanks for pointing out the obvious, bill-o.
What we do is send my monkey-boy for a producer, Jesse Waters, to follow a blogger on a 2 1/2 hr drive, wait outside the hotel she was spending the weekend in, wait for her to come out, chase her down a street, throw a microphone in her face and demand an apology for me, Mr. I Am Being Libelled.
But I don't attack anyone ladies, no siree Bob.
This man really just can't see the world through anyone's eyes but his own...
Apparently, if you go around quoting O'Reilly in full context, that makes you "smear merchants," "scum" and "assassins."
Ridiculous!!
The GOP and conservative movement have imploded because of this type of stupidity. Many Americans may be lemmings, but they're not necessarily stupid lemmings (with the exception of O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck and Limbaugh syncophants).
If you dish it out, you HAVE to take it.
He's been libeled? By who?
I haven't read any lies about him anywhere.
I have heard his whiny, self-centered rants once too many times, over-talking and yelling at his "guests" when they intelligently correct him.
Debate? That was the most one-sided debate I ever heard, condescendingly referring to the "two intelligent women" like that was the first time women have been intelligent.
When is Fox going off the air? These falsehoods and half-baked innuendo's are going WAY too far.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I can't tell you how absolutely hilarious.
Oh, and O'Lielly, there was some of that on the right in regard to boycotts? Yeah, from you, you moron. As in, let's boycott France, remember you troglodyte...lol
The way to break the brainwashing and mental conditioning of the people afflicted is to find the forum, blogs, websites they congregate on and post, post, post and continue telling them the true facts and not let up as this along with other media outlets will all work in unison to break the hold on the people.
Until the Fascist-Fundamentalist/Evil Evangelicals are exposed to the rank and file attendees at the weekly/daily conditioning meetings they will not be able to think for themselves and will only continue to parrot the party line, no matter how ridiculous and mindless it sounds for as soon as one of thsoe slip another pops up to use the buzz words to return them into the mindless existence they all live under.
Remember the God-Squad will not give up their Fascist takeover plans and it will require that they be shown and given tit for tat what they spew out and returned 10 fold with factual proof and doses of reality to counteract their fantasy worlds and to help them break free from the mind control they are living in.
TFR
Alockslee