About us Login Get email updates
Quick Clip
Print

Robertson: Many "made homosexual because of a coach or a guidance counselor or some other male figure who has abused them"

June 09, 2009 1:05 pm ET

From the June 9 edition of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club:

Please upgrade your flash player. The video for this item requires a newer version of Flash Player. If you are unable to install flash you can download a QuickTime version of the video.

EMBED

TERRY MEEUWSEN (co-host): This is Theresa. This is difficult. She says, "How should we, as parents of a homosexual son, handle the ongoing challenges facing us, such as staying true to our faith and following the commandment to 'love your neighbor as yourself'? This is very difficult for us."

ROBERTSON: Well, first of all, he's not your neighbor. He's your son; that's a different thing. You owe him, you know, advice and counsel and guidance. You're his parent. First of all, you didn't say how old he is. Secondly, I am not at all persuaded that so-called homosexuals are homosexuals because of biological problems. There may be a very few, but there are so many that have been made homosexuals because of a coach or a guidance counselor or some other male figure who has abused them and they think there's something wrong with their sexuality. So you need to get deep into why he is what he is, instead of just saying, "Well, he's a homosexual so how do I handle him, and how do I be Christian?" Well, I think you ought to tell him, "Listen, son, you know, here's what the Bible says about this, and it's called an abomination before God, so I've got to tell you the truth because I love you." That's what I think. All right, what else?

MEEUWSEN: And then you do that -- you love him.

ROBERTSON: You love him. Of course you love him. And you accept him. You love him, but at the same time, you can't let him just go, you know, he'll wind up --

MEEUWSEN: Without knowing truth, yeah.

ROBERTSON: Well, I mean, if somebody's on their way to hell, they'll -- I mean, you've got to love them to rescue them.

Expand All Expand 1st Level Collapse All Add Comment
    • Author by worrierking (June 09, 2009 1:08 pm ET)
      3  
      "I've always suspected that you gayness was contagious."

      Is that what you're saying Pat?

      Too bad rational thought's not.
      Report Abuse
      • Author by Leftym0m79 (June 09, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
        1  
        He better be careful, it's a catchin' all over the country, worse than swine flu it is.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 09, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
        1  
        Well, it's not as though he's ever exposed.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by snoopy (June 09, 2009 1:11 pm ET)
      1 1
      Many? Maybe a few, but I'm willing to bet there's some underlying mental trauma involved that really is treatable. These people just can't accept that science can prove them wrong, they want to believe people like Ted Haggard can be cured like you treat alcoholism. And when Ted falls off the wagon, just send him to a support group and he's good for another 12 inches...
      Report Abuse
    • Author by Leftym0m79 (June 09, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
      5 1
      As a bi-sexual woman, I find this deeply troubling. I was never abused. I have many friends, both gay and straight, that were. None, I repeat, none of them believe that factors into their sexuality, only how they approach relationships.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by dmhack (June 09, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
      1  
      Why do we even bother with this swindler? Outside of his personal following of GED drop-outs and people hoping to buy their way into heaven, this guy is irrelevant to Americans.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by archae (June 09, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
      4 2
      Voice of experience, Pat?
      Report Abuse
    • Author by wookie (June 09, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
      4 1
      So the argument is that gays enjoy the abuse and want a lifetime of it?
      Report Abuse
    • Author by nerzog (June 09, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
      6 1
      Were those gay penguins abused?

      People like Pat will NEVER NEVER NEVER admit that a person can be born homosexual, because that would remove the excuse for their bigotry.

      It would also upend their superstitious paradigm, in which homosexuality is a "sin", and God would never create a "sinner".

      After all, these people think the Earth is only 6,000 years old... they are immune to science.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by DAWUSS (June 09, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
        8
      Sexual orientation (or attraction for that matter) is a choice.


      If people choose to be homosexual, why should anyone else deny them that choice?
      Report Abuse
      • Author by mr. l (June 09, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
        2 1
        You're not serious, right? When did YOU choose your orientation?
        Report Abuse
        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 09, 2009 2:03 pm ET)
          2  
          I think he chose willful ignorance at a young age, and decided to stick with it.
          Report Abuse
        • Author by DAWUSS (June 09, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
            4
          Around the same time when you choose who you're attracted to.
          Report Abuse
          • Author by Brabantio (June 09, 2009 3:19 pm ET)
               
            How did you choose who you were attracted to?
            Report Abuse
          • Author by nerzog (June 09, 2009 4:07 pm ET)
               
            Let me get this straight. At one point in your life, presumably around puberty, you looked at boys and girls with equal interest, and just decided which one to be attracted to? You really remember making that choice? If so, does that mean you could just as easily switch now?
            Report Abuse
              • Author by nerzog (June 09, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
                   
                Actually, choosing between these two is more representative of the point you're trying to make. Are you telling us that you could go either way?

                [http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2007/10/23-End/brangelina-brad-pitt-angelina-jolie-halloween-costume.jpg]
                Report Abuse
              • Author by Brabantio (June 09, 2009 11:55 pm ET)
                   
                As nerzog pointed out, they're both women. That really doesn't have anything to do with the idea that you can choose which gender you're attracted to. I'd still like to know how that's supposed to work.

                I have to say the Keeley Hazell choice was a good one, though. Hail Britannia!
                Report Abuse
      • Author by pete592 (June 09, 2009 2:12 pm ET)
           
        I'm really wondering at what age the fabled "rumspringa" of sexual orientation takes place in normal human development. Right wingers will swear by the all that is holy that it happens, but I don't recall it ever happening to me.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (June 09, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
        1  
        If people choose to be homosexual, why should anyone else deny them that choice?


        Please tell me you don't think that homosexuality is a choice.
        Report Abuse
      • Author by Brabantio (June 09, 2009 2:29 pm ET)
        1  
        If it were actually a choice, society is not obligated to sanction it. It's difficult to stop people from having those relationships, because that sort of law is not easily enforceable, but there's no reason that society has to adjust its laws to accommodate them. The percentage of the country that disapproves of homosexuality for any reason would rightfully gain a much higher level of influence under those fictional circumstances.
        Report Abuse
        • Author by nerzog (June 09, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
          3  
          You're right, of course. As long as they cling to the "choice" myth, they can justify their own bigotry, especially if they can convince themselves that God hates homosexuals, too.
          Report Abuse
      • Author by Christatheman (June 09, 2009 2:30 pm ET)
        2  
        I would give you all the money I have if you could find me ONE homosexual who says they chose it. And isn't, ya know, LYING.

        (Clearly, I chose to be gay for all the social benefits it brings.)
        *facepalm*
        Report Abuse
    • Author by o rly (June 09, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
      2  
      I never chose to be straight, I just was. I'm a bit worried now.... should I have had some kind of coach or guidance counselor to tell me that?
      Report Abuse
      • Author by mary59 (June 09, 2009 7:08 pm ET)
           
        Yes. You should have had a wholesome youth guidance counsellor take you aside after a rigorous swim in the lake at church camp, and show you a girly magazine.
        Nevertheless, if you send Pat $5, he'll issue you a certificate.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by starstruckedsam (June 09, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
      2  
      pat you are truly miss informed about homosexuality. if some one was raped by a person of the same sex they would not become homosexual. there have been many studies that homosexuality can be hereditary. i myself was born homosexual. ive always had feelings for guys and i went to a catholic school for 8 years. how would u explain that? people do not need to ask this man questions like that when he will just give them wrong answers that do not help. homosexuality is natural. god made me an their for i am perfect the way i am. if you see homosexuality as sinful and wrong then maybe you should look at yourself. god made us all an loves us for how we live our lives an not who we live our lives with.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by KitKat652 (June 09, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
      2  
      geesh, the poor son, just imagine what he's going through with his parents, who should be the first ones to accept him, trying to change him... robertson is such a douchebag... it's people like him that give christianity a bad name, closeminded people using the bible to justify their fear and closeminded beleifs... Leviticus supports slavery, rape, and in many cases murder, it also tells people exactly how to remove mold from their house... the bible is a flawed book, it's extremely outdated with many old testament rules... christianity is about following the teachings of jesus christ, which were to love your neighbor as yourself, jesus' teachings were based off of love and acceptance, jesus was the person helping the pariahs of society, yet now many christians are using the bible to justify discrimination against people... why can't people just accept differences in one another and let it be?
      Report Abuse
    • Author by vonbargen9388 (June 09, 2009 3:23 pm ET)
      1  
      It's hard to imagine hearing this in the 21st century from a man once considered a serious presidential candidate by millions. One wonders if dick cheney is trying to rescue his lesbian daughter from the gates of hell. Omigosh could it be, oh no, or maybe - or, maybe, was he the abuser who turned her out?
      Report Abuse
    • Author by CoLy_FeRReR2O (June 09, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
      1  
      All this people thinking that Homosexuality is a choice need to take into consideration that it would b like u getting to chose ur parents or where ur born or if ur going to be talk or short.

      Being a homosexual or gay or bi or w.e. had nothing to do with u having a choise in it, is what u are who u were born to be... people who think is a choice 2 be homosexual is like telling me that it was my choice to be PuertoRican. People who belive that homosexuality is a choise please keep it into consideration that because u may not understand where they r coming from or how they are who they are dosent give u the right to tell them that they chose the fact that they r homosexuals if in fact u can NOT talk from expiriance and say that u chose to be gay or bi then please do not make asompsions of why they r they way they are...

      many or my friends are Homosexual... N if some poeple like ur self would take into consideration what im telling u right now then the world would b a better place because accepting the fact that there are people in this world that are different from ur self means that us as a humanity is evolving N humans can not evolve with out change.
      Report Abuse
    • Author by nerzog (June 09, 2009 4:24 pm ET)
      1  
      Even in my younger, foolish days when I was a Republican, I never believed it was a choice. I assume that my experience is fairly typical. Somewhere around the age of 12, I was suddenly fascinated by female anatomy, dropping pencils in class so I could look up their skirts, etc. I didn't decide to like girls... I just did.

      Now, for you heterosexual men who insist that it's a choice, try this experiment. Close your eyes and imagine a Victoria's Secret model, and make note of how she makes you feel. Then, imagine that she turns into George Clooney. Do you still have the same feelings? You still think it's a choice?

      Report Abuse
    • Author by scrutiny123 (June 09, 2009 5:17 pm ET)
      1  
      well since this guy is claiming to be a christian i have a lot to say on this matter. now ive read act2 of the bible and i dont recall jesus saying anything about about homosexuals. and is rob as a christian supposed to follow the word and teachings of jesus christ? im just saying!

      and if im wrong pls someone give me the book, chpt, and verse. n not of the old testiment. cuz that has nothing to do with mr christ
      Report Abuse
    • Author by feetxxxl (June 12, 2009 2:27 am ET)
      1  
      robertson has totally misrepresented scripture. the essence of the new covenant is that, everyone is our neighbor, first. believers are directed to love their neighbor as themselves(2nd commandment). this is the summation of all new covenant law.

      the "abomination" that robertson is referring to is of the old covenant. under the old covenant(that which is named old will become obsolete and soon pass away) believers had a relationship to god thru regulation as deut 28.

      instead in the new covenant, instead, believers have a direct relationship to the triune god, as he lives in each believer.

      in old covenant, there were a number of things that were called abominable(kjv), including women wearing men's clothes.

      in addition,a number of prohibitions of the old covenant were not of themselves sins.

      robertson's approach is neither of christ nor of the new covenant, because in the new covenant, believers are led by and serve of the holy spirit, and under grace, and are no longer led by regulation or are under the law.

      the question for robinson would be "what is it that is in being homosexual that makes it come against the 2nd commandment?"

      the point being ..........IT DOESNT!!!

      in regards to scripture ............scripture never said homosexuality was a sin. and no one............i mean no one has ever been able to explain how the words of scripture ever said this.

      how was it that for 2000 years christendom thought this? because for 2000 years they assigned meaning to certain verses TO SUPPORT CULTURAL UNDERSTANDINGS, IN SPITE OF THE WORDS OF THOSE VERSES.
      Report Abuse