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O'Reilly advances Voight's false claim that "Pravda said that we were amazingly speeding toward Marxism at an amazing rate"

June 09, 2009 9:19 pm ET

From the June 9 episode of Fox News Channel's The O'Reilly Factor:

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Media figures falsely claim anti-Obama hit piece produced by newspaper Pravda

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    • Author by davemccarthymusic9410 (June 09, 2009 9:53 pm ET)
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      we would be wise not to ignore the claims of a towering intellectual such as Jon Voight.
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      • Author by steelers84 (June 10, 2009 10:40 am ET)
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        Why was he not asked about the time he bit Kramer's arm? That has more relevance than this.
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        • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 10, 2009 11:25 am ET)
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          Well, Kramer DID give the Republicans the idea for most of their election season attacks on Obama...
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCbrEbEyheM
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    • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 09, 2009 9:53 pm ET)
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      Amazingly speeding at an amazing rate that amazes you? AMAZING!
      Jon must be promoting "Coming Home 2: Wearing Out Your Welcome".
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      • Author by mjh (June 09, 2009 11:54 pm ET)
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        Jon must be promoting "Coming Home 2: Wearing Out Your Welcome".

        Hopefully, that will be a step up from Second String {and I'm a Bills fan} . . .
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    • Author by pete592 (June 09, 2009 10:50 pm ET)
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      So let's see what kind of headlines we have at Pravda Online at this particular moment:

      "Russian fishermen catch squeaking alien and eat it"

      "Vegetarianism proves to be perversion of nature"

      "Soviet Union witnessed invasion of US-made UFOs in 1980s"

      "Russian geneticists to reveal alien's DNA mystery"


      Sources, Shmources, if it's on the internet, it must be true.
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      • Author by harley (June 10, 2009 8:59 am ET)
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        Reich-wingers sourcing a [former] communist propaganda outlet as "fact". Wow, and yet they find another low to sink to. Priceless.
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        • Author by neon desert (June 10, 2009 9:43 am ET)
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          Actually, Pravda didn't ever write the article. It was written by a (supposedly Russian) blogger named Stanislav Mishin and only published by Pravda online. Yep, a blogger. No other accreditation. No expertise. No training. No study. And the soviet union was not truly Marxist, so he can't even claim familiarity.

          So it fits right in with O'Reallys typical sources. Just goes to show the conservative mind's predisposition to follow ANYBODY who says something they wish was true.
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      • Author by phildeckard (June 10, 2009 12:03 pm ET)
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        The latest "Pravda Online" Business headline":

        "Conservative economics based upon magic, cruelty, fatalism and greed".

        Maybe there's something to this after all...
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    • Author by mjh (June 10, 2009 12:10 am ET)
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      What's Jon doing on the Fox Comedy Channel, anyway -- I thought they didn't like Hollywood?

      Then again, they've already had the following on for "expert commentary":

      - Pat Boone
      - Maria Conchita Alonso
      - Danny Bonaduce
      - Omarosa
      - Ted Nugent
      - Chuck Norris
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      • Author by overmars jr. (June 10, 2009 3:29 am ET)
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        Please don't forget the ever-sage Stephen Baldwin. Oh, and the giant mind of Morgan Brittany.
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        • Author by fairliberal (June 10, 2009 9:10 am ET)
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          Yeah , and the lefties have experts like Jerry Springer and Jeanine Garafolo, wow, impressive.
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (June 10, 2009 10:10 am ET)
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            Wow I've missed Jerry's and Jeanine's public statements on politics and policy. Who had them on to spread their breathless? Who said they were experts, besides you?
            Are you jealous that there's no O'Reilly Musical?
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            • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 10, 2009 10:34 am ET)
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              Are you jealous that there's no O'Reilly Musical?
              More accurately, he's bitter that that's still the case even after he went to the trouble of writing the story, music and lyrics and going to New York to try to market it. That's also why he hates gay people, incidentally.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (June 10, 2009 10:11 am ET)
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            Jerry Springer was actually once a politician.

            Janeane (that's how you spell it) for a while had a political radio show.



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          • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 10, 2009 10:17 am ET)
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            Jerry Springer. Oooh. Topical. Thanks for naming the only two liberal entertainers out there, by the way. They're all talk-show hosts and comedians. It's not as though any of them have won Academy Awards or anything.
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          • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 10, 2009 10:17 am ET)
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            Jerry Springer. Oooh. Topical. Thanks for naming the only two liberal entertainers out there, by the way. They're all talk-show hosts and comedians. It's not as though any of them have won Academy Awards or anything.
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          • Author by wzwriter (June 10, 2009 11:14 am ET)
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            You couldn't hold a candle to Jeanene Garafalo. She is very intelligent and I've seen her mop the floor with dim-witted conservatives such as yourself. And Jerry Springer is no intellectual slouch, either.

            You only attack them because you feel inferior to them. Which is only natural, seeing as you ARE inferior to them.
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          • Author by overmars jr. (June 11, 2009 6:58 am ET)
               
            Where are my manners? Let me help you move those goalposts...
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (June 10, 2009 12:43 am ET)
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      I can now see why Angelina Joile doesn't want to talk to her father. i myself have to puit him on my list of nutty people. It is possible sometime in the future the US population will consist of carbohydrate materials robots and one charismatic leader allowed to dismantle the Constitution. It is important noone is allowed to rewrite history creating plausible arguments to do so.
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    • Author by mescal (June 10, 2009 2:40 am ET)
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      Voit has long proven himself to be a talented and highly accomplished actor, but his political discussions show him to also be a grumbling, tinfoil hat-wearing, paranoid narcissist. It's actually quite sad to see him slowly descending into mental illness. He now expresses regret for his work in Coming Home, and thinks that the Viet Nam war was a noble endeavor. He wishes to cleanse universities of what he now perceives as the corrupting inluences of liberal professors by firing all those who dare to question the heroic myths of American history.

      In other words, Voit has mutated from a respected artist into a snarling, hard-lining, black-shirted wingnut par excellence.



      Alas.
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      • Author by robyn20094113 (June 10, 2009 5:20 am ET)
           
        GEES SOUNDS A LOT LIKE MARXISM.
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      • Author by harley (June 10, 2009 9:14 am ET)
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        More importantly, why is O'Racist taking a Hollywood Actor's uneducated opinion as "fact"? According to O'Racist and the teabagging terrorists, actors should keep their mouth's shut and shouldn't use their fame to push their propaganda. Hypocritical scum.


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      • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 10, 2009 10:39 am ET)
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        Much like how Charlie Daniels turned into the guys "Uneasy Rider" was making fun of.
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      • Author by wzwriter (June 10, 2009 11:16 am ET)
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        In other words, Voit has mutated from a respected artist into a snarling, hard-lining, black-shirted wingnut par excellence.

        Sounds like he's been hanging out with Ted "The Child Molester" Nugent.
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    • Author by Dem02020 (June 10, 2009 2:47 am ET)
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      I'm a believer that when a person dies, you remember whatever good things about them there might be, and you stow the bad stuff, because they're dead now, and why let the bad stuff outlive them to continue plaguing you after they're gone...

      Before this particular actor died, he made a couple of awesome movies.

      'Deliverance', for the way it made a white water rafting trip into such a threatening drama (and I would have altered the part where they're confronted by the two guys in the woods, it didn't have to be done like that), and the whole business in the background, of most of the county being destined to rest at the bottom of a great reservoir, and the "Dueling Banjos' part was one of those things you see in movies that make you wonder at how inspired artists must be, to create such things...

      Also 'Catch-22', and the character this particular actor played, the Officer who was a capitalist extraordinaire, who was hell bent to make money off the war, buying and selling whatever it took, women weapons and even a bombing mission... and it's hilarious when the Officer is stuck with having traded for tons of cotton, and then the price of cotton collapses, and so he gets the idea of coating little cotton balls in chocolate, and feeding them to the men... and when he's told that the men won't go for it and will never eat the stuff, the Officer replies something along the lines of "They have to, it's their duty, it's part of the mission and they have to do their part, and it's good for America" or something like that, it's hard to remember every word correctly when you're laughing your head off, which the whole movie did that, told dark truths in funny ways...

      Anyway, that's what I'd rather remember about this particular actor before he died, and not dwell on the obvious life and career crisis he suffered from in his later years, that made him go public with his fear-driven political opinions.
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    • Author by tjmccool2284 (June 10, 2009 6:53 am ET)
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      You have to admire a group of people who think that judges should not, under any circumstance, view foreign law as advice or a reliable indicator of outcome and then turn around and think an unknown foreign author can tell us what way we're headed. This is a Foxworthy moment, in the sense of Jeff not News.
      Here's your sign.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 10, 2009 7:41 am ET)
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      Voight was pretty convincing this season as the right-wing nutbag badguy on 24. Who knew he believed the tripe he was spouting in that role?
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      • Author by nerzog (June 10, 2009 9:56 am ET)
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        I like him as an actor, but in real life he's a douchebag.
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        • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 10, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
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          I agree; I have no problem praising an actor for good acting while condemning a human being for saying stupid, dishonest things.
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