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In monologue on Holocaust Museum shooting, Beck predicts "witch hunt" against Jews and conservatives

June 10, 2009 5:52 pm ET

From the June 10 edition of Fox News Channel's Glenn Beck Program:

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    • Author by marco21 (June 10, 2009 5:58 pm ET)
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      I find it interesting that conservatives on Fox see no distinction between themselves and right wing extremists. Perhaps they know something I don't — the chasm between the two has shrunken to mere meters, if that.
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      • Author by wzwriter (June 10, 2009 5:59 pm ET)
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        What chasm? The conservatives and the right-wing extremists are marching in lock-step.
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (June 10, 2009 6:00 pm ET)
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        Marco, there is no chasm; the reaction from the Noise Machine proves that they are right-wing extremists and provocateurs of domestic terrorism. And should be investigated and prosecuted as such...
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        • Author by TheThief672 (June 10, 2009 7:59 pm ET)
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          I'm an atheist but Amen to that......"should be investigated and prosecute"
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      • Author by marco21 (June 11, 2009 12:27 am ET)
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        I am sorry to respond to myself, but a little was lost in posting this comment for whatever reason. The chasm I speak of was between the conservative I grew up with in the 1980s and the "conservative" I know now. There was once a radical right even the staunchest conservative would acknowledge back in the day. Now, to America's eyes they are interchangeable.

        If a "leftist" was responsible for violence, I'd call them out. Right-minded folk seem to welcome this freakshow of violence. There's a chasm of difference between even the most partisan liberal and the most partisan conservative in 2009. The difference is body count. Zero to 3 and counting.
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    • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (June 10, 2009 5:58 pm ET)
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      Is that a prediction or a threat, Glenn? Oilin' up the ol' huntin' rifle, maybe?...
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    • Author by budrykzp9226 (June 10, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
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      "WAAAH. I'm Glenn Beck and everybody is after me for being such an genius. Wait, was I supposed to be addressing something specific? Oh, right. Jews. I HATE J..no! WAIT! Jews getting killed is BAD. It makes me overcome with mild concern. The Word of the Beck."
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    • Author by harley (June 10, 2009 6:24 pm ET)
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      Becky, O'Racist, and the rest of conservative crowd are undeniably enablers of terrorism. This is now a fact. And ironically, these are the same clowns that claimed liberals support terrorism because they oppose a war based on lies. Amazing.
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    • Author by snoopy (June 10, 2009 6:34 pm ET)
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      Why would there be a witch hunt against jews? This attack was clearly meant to disrespect our jewish brethren.
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (June 10, 2009 6:43 pm ET)
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        He has no problem with disrespecting our Jewish brethren, snoopy; what he has a problem with is that one of his own did it instead of a Muslim. How to sympathize with the Jews he hates while isolating von Brunn from criticism?...
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (June 10, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
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        I am with you, Snoopy. Even for Beck that makes no sense! Perhaps one you right-wing Fox apologists on here can explain it to us. AA? FL?
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        • Author by franky (June 11, 2009 12:26 am ET)
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          I noticed similarities in this clip to Limbaugh's style of communication. It seems to me he goes from one strain of thought to another without making himself clear as to what exactly he meant or why the next thought should appropriately follow the previous one. I don't mean that his sub points are wrong, although they often are, but that even if you suspend disbelief on that, there's no logical cohesive theme or overarching point of the commentary.

          I wish they would include transcripts with these clips as I had to keep rewinding to try to see how to fit the pieces of the puzzle together, unsuccessfully. If it was written down it might fall into place...or maybe I'm kidding myself, that really this is just gibberish. But this is a prepared commentary (not an impromptu radio brainwave) on a big TV station -- shouldn't somebody normal have edited it for lucidity?

          On the other hand, on the relatively infrequent occasions I've heard Limbaugh over the decades, I flatter myself that I've at times been able to decipher some of his peculiar rants, even some of the obviously off the cuff ones. So maybe it's a matter of familiarity. Maybe there is some rhyme or reason to Beck's riffs. It could be that with time, like how one learns a foreign language, it may become easier to decode him.

          I just played it again. The Arab terrorist recruiter made perfect sense. Of course very evil, but one sentence flowed logically into the next and his overall meaning was very clear -- he successfully communicated what he wanted to say. Maybe Fox should get a translator for Beck too. But perhaps the idea isn't to communicate any particular set of properly sequenced ideas which together form one particular and distinct point to the audience. The idea may be to say things in such away that the Fox viewers can pick their own meanings, cafeteria style, to conform to what each one separately wants to believe. Effectively he may be narrowcasting to each individual Fox viewer. What seems gibberish to me may have been worked on by a battery of psychologists and sociologists to create this effect. And the cherry on top is that Beck can't be blamed as easily for saying what any of his audience members heard if he can't be deciphered and convincingly explained to non-Fox viewers without going into great detail and others having confidence in your ability to translate him over their own ears telling them that it's just a nonsensical mess.
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      • Author by wookie (June 10, 2009 9:40 pm ET)
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        I think it has something to do with antisemetic Jewish Muslim Atheists trying to start World War 3 through fascist empathy.
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    • Author by Martha (June 10, 2009 8:26 pm ET)
         
      The "ultra right wing conservitives" on FOX have ginned up this entire situation since Obama became president.

      Take a look in the mirror FOX, you ARE right wing extremists.
      You and your friend Boss Limbaugh!
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    • Author by Dyellin45 (June 10, 2009 8:45 pm ET)
         
      Ummm why the witch hunt against Jews? I am secular Jew. 97% of my Jewish secular or non secular friends are liberals. I'm pretty sure, extremest are out to get me. We were the hunted, not the hunters.
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    • Author by Tique09 (June 10, 2009 9:41 pm ET)
         
      ..."Have you ever heard of Don't Blame The Messenger"?"...
      That's beck defending himself against accusations of inciting extremist behavior.

      Well Glenn, you're not the messenger when you write the message. Or are you saying you don't write your show?
      If not, who do we blame? Who's writing the message you claim to be carrying?
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    • Author by Tique09 (June 10, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
         
      Trying to hide behind "Don't Blame the Messenger" just won't cut it when you are the writer of the message.
      Or don't you write the show? If not you're just a hack...surprised?
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      • Author by Tique09 (June 11, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
           
        (sorry for the redundant post but these were my 1st on mediamatters so they didn't show up until reviewed...)
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    • Author by jonesjax2374 (June 10, 2009 9:56 pm ET)
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      So sad for the family of that guard. Beck is feeding flames and doesn't see his own part. What a pig. Here he has a chance to reign in hate speech but he escalates it. I suggest watching a few docs on Germany and he may be shocked to see which side he's on. YOU are part of the PROBLEM!!!!
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    • Author by pam95650 (June 11, 2009 1:57 am ET)
         
      This is definitely a scary time in our society. With the extreme right wing shouting fear and socialism, no wonder these nut-jobs are out in force.
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    • Author by Luis81 (June 11, 2009 4:44 am ET)
         
      Don't you just love how Glenn Beck transforms a Nazi,hate-filled act of violence into an anti-Islam propoganda tool?
      Oh yea...I forgot to mention how Glenny boy somehow relates Judaism and all its persecutions with the American caucasian experience...
      give me a break...
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    • Author by dmhack (June 11, 2009 9:03 am ET)
         
      Actually, as rambling and incoherent as Becky seemed to be in this clip, it's really a demonstration of the distraction technique.

      First Step--
      Label the shooter as a lone wingnut. It's the 'he's not one of us' tactic.

      Second Step--
      Having distanced yourself, start to turn the event around so that it appears this is an attack on the right. Warning: This may take a lot of talking and leaps of logic.

      Third Step--
      Continue talking until you're certain that no one can follow you any longer.
      Remember, this is not about making a logical argument, it is about distracting people and distancing yourself from any possible responsibility.

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    • Author by vwcat (June 11, 2009 9:48 am ET)
         
      I have a question. I know that most neocons are kindred spirits of the lukude movement in Israel but, why are conservatives so over the top on the jewish people. Even jewish people are not this staunch or hardline about themselves as the conservatives are.
      Many jewish people dislike hardliners and see the mistakes that have been made and want peace, ect.
      So, why are conservatives so blind and rigid about the jewish people.
      Afterall, like all people there are good and bad and in between.
      And they certainly do not need someone to play over protective parent to them. The jewish people are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves and what Israel needs is a real and true friend, not a blind and indulgent one.
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      • Author by Dyellin45 (June 11, 2009 10:28 am ET)
           
        Many christian conservatives are such supporters of Israel, because according to some gospel all the Jews must be in Israel for jesus to come back. As a secular Jew this scares me. Watch this Max Blumenthal video about the group Christians United for Israel.
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