Limbaugh on Holocaust museum shooter: "This guy is a leftist if anything"
June 11, 2009 12:41 pm ET
From the June 11 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
Limbaugh adds: "This guy's beliefs, this guy's hate stems from influence that you find on the left, not on the right."
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When hopelessly cornered by the facts--tell the biggest lie you can come up with.
That would explain Brunn's "Rush is Right" internet postings.
Von Brunn served six years in prison for trying in 1981 to kidnap Federal Reserve Board members because of high interest rates. He blamed his prison term on a 'Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys' and 'a Jew judge,' he said on his Web site, 'Holy Western Empire.'"
When did the left start denying the Holocaust and blaming their problems on Negro's and Jews? News to me.
That has nothing to do with right wing-extremist anti-Semitism of the sort von Brunn offered the world.
He's all aboard the Crazy Train now, no messing around. This quote makes me think of a little kid with the bat in his hand, standing panicked next to a broken window, as his mom walks out, pointing to his sleeping brother and squealing "He did it!!".
FBI finds the Weekly Standard was a target. Well-known as a "neocon" publication.
Who has demonized the neocons? The leftists at MSNBC are a primary culprit.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Weekly_Standard_may_have_been_shooter_target.html?showall
Two other sources said two FBI agents... told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats.
The magazine is about a mile north of the Holocaust Museum, and there's no other indication that von Brunn had targeted it
And in your mind, that translates as "FBI finds the Weekly Standard was a target."? He may have just been renewing his subscription.
I know, Von Brunn reportedly railed against the neocons, but I'd suggest you look into his specific complaints against them. I'm betting it wasn't that they were too conservative.
Don't feel too bad. I glanced at the comments at your Politico link, and more than one other sucker fell for it too.
BTW, any time you begin a post with "Rush is right..", you may wanna run it by a sane person before posting.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141655/posts
Sorry, I'll make it easier.
Pat Buchanan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugesi_gaqLU
Their actions in regards to American foreign policy in the Middle East has made them look worse than anything MSNBC has said about them.
You claim that Rush is "right again!" Well, he is Rightwing, and so is James von Brunn. Look at the overwhelming evidence:
1) von Brunn posted "Limbaugh is Right" on his Web and various other sites: RIGHT WING
2) von Brunn is anti-immigrant (so is Limbaugh): VERY Rightwing
3) von Brunn is anti-Black (so is Limbaugh): VERY RIGHTWING
4) von Brunn is an Obamaphobe who claims the president is not an American citizen (so does Limbaugh) Right wing
5) von Brunn is virulent anti-abortionist (so is Rush Limbaugh): Right wing
6) von Brunn names far-right (Republican) Marine Corps General Pedro A. Del Valle as seminal "influence": Rightwing
7) von Brunn is an extreme anti-Semite (as opposed to critic of Israel, a distinction neo-conservatives seek to blur for their political ends): CLASSIC Rightwing.
So you see, Cheney2012, when you say that "Rush is right again!" you have correctly tied him to the politics of von Brunn. After all, von Brunn shares so many of Limbaugh's rancid, racist, and wretched bigotries.
ROFL. Only a teabagger could say that with a straight face.
MMFA: If Limbaugh denounces any of this stuff, if he tells his listeners not to go out and be violent any more, please please post it here. Otherwise I will have to continue assuming that Limbaugh has no intention of taking responsibility for his words.
Second, Von Braun is clearly a right leaning extremist. Every piece of "evidence" Limbaugh tries to use is COMPLETELY false. Third, in Von Braun’s writing, it states he hates the Bushes, McCain and neo-conservatives because they are not strict and proactive enough in their right wing beliefs. Similarly, Von Braun's hatred of Jewish and Black Americans is more closely related to conservative right wing than to progressive liberal ideology. Von Braun is also anti-big government. This is a hallmark of conservative ideology. Gun rights, faith based politics....the list goes on and on.
It’s very simple...this nutcase was right wing and extreme. Limbaugh is in a panic because the scare and hate tactics of the conservatives in this country are responsible for two assassinations in less than a month; a doctor and a security officer; innocent people who were gunned down in places of worship and remembrance. The extreme right wingers of this country are nearly as insane as the extreme right wingers of the Islamic faith (yes I’m comparing them... they are both ideologies based on faith, conservatism and backwardness.)
Nuff said
Angry in RI
When you claim that Hitler was a "leftist," you are engaging in revisionism of the lowest order. As the premier historian of fascist movements, Robert Paxton, has noted in the definitive, "The Anatomy of Fascism," Hitler was a man of the far Right; his support came from wealthy Conservative elites; his followers were socially conservative, resentful lower middle-class––-that which Nixon would term "the Silent Majority" in America, and this American counterpart steeped in cultural/racial resentment turned to the Republican Party in general and, Nixon, Reagan, and Bush in particular.
Let us point out Hitler's Conservative, Rightwing ideas and animus:
1) Hitler hated immigrants: So do American Rightwing Conservatives
2) Hitler hated "cosmopolitan" (read, "multicultural") artists, intellectuals, and academics: So do American Rightwing Conservatives
3) Hitler hated African-Americans and what he saw as their "decadent" and "inferior" culture: So do American Rightwing Conservatives
4) Hitler hated Gays: So do American Rightwing Conservatives
5) Hitler hated "Communists,""Liberals," and other "Leftists": So do American Rightwing Conservatives
6) Hitler hated feminists: So do American Rightwing Conservatives
7) Hitler hated those who "contaminate" the "racial" and "cultural" purity of the "real" countrymen: So do American Rightwing Conservatives
8) Hitler subscribed to fanatical "nationalism": So do American Rightwing Conservatives
9) Hitler believed in militarism, force, and state violence: So do American Rightwing Conservatives
10) Hitler believed that his country was "unique," above all other nations, and therefore entitled to impose its will by force on others: So do American Rightwing Conservatives
In the aforementioned ten points–––ten among many others–––enumerated by the Whistorians including Robert Paxton, Eugen Weber,Istvan Deak, Ian Kershaw, Allan Bullock, Raul Hilberg, Richard Evans,Pierre Emmanuel Vidal-Naquet,François Furet et al have irrefutably established Hitler, Nazism, Fascism as phenomenon of the Conservative/Rightwing politics.
Beadyeye, you can fantasize, you can engage in denial (a telling tactic of the far Right, particularly in regards to the European Holocaust and the United States' roots in the Atlantic Slave Trade), but you will not be permitted to foist your lies, canards, and sheer bloody minded ignorance as "fact."
And by the way, many "government dictatorships" are and have been Conservative/Rightwing, including those of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet, Argentina's junta, etc., etc. We will note that the United States supported the majority of these murderous Rightwing/Conservative dictatorships during the Cold War.
Finally, your readings of political philosophy is laughably, risibly ignorant as well as self serving. In fact, beadyeye, it was Marx who argued that once the Communist state had extinguished Capitalist rule,said Communist state would, and I quote, "whither away" and the workers would live in equality in an absence of government."
You now have the academic sources by which you ought to educate yourself. Your denial and crude assault on truth, so redolent of Rightwing/Conservative politics the world over, will not stand the light of truth.
"Just so ya know."
I'm going to try to edit some of the fat out of his post to see if it makes any more sense;
Hitler was a leftist. Nazi's were socialists.... Naziism is not a liberal doctrine. ... big government dictatorships are leftist... Just so ya know.
Nope, that didn't help. It's still crap.
http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/vonbrunn
Actually, Rush's comments are part of a larger attempt by the right wing (particularly the John Birch Society) to propose that we accept a new formulation or understanding of a political spectrum.
The basic premise of the new spectrum is that history proves that government is evil and dangerous and always diminishes freedom and facilitates tyranny. Therefore, the more government activism or intervention -- the less freedom exists in society.
Consequently, the new proposed spectrum places anarchy [no government] on the extreme right and totalitarian dictatorships on the extreme left [total government] and then groups we currently consider extreme right (such as Birch Society) place themselves in the MIDDLE of the spectrum.
It is a rather transparent attempt to pretend that everything despicable, dishonorable, frightening and dangerous originates from the LEFT side of the spectrum whereas everything decent, honorable, moral, and desirable is EXCLUSIVELY in the middle and non extreme right side of the spectrum.
Furthermore, the new "middle" (Birchers et al) propose that liberalism, socialism, communism, fascism, nazism are ALL forms of "collectivism" or "statism" and they inevitably produce tyranny -- therefore, not much point in making fastidious distinctions between or among them.