Scarborough revises DHS report history: "what upset most of us" was "the fact not that they were targeting right-wingers, it's that they were targeting veterans"
June 12, 2009 8:56 am ET
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Joe is playing stupid again.
One of you seems to be going in a different direction than the other one. One far-right the other in the center.
At the same time, you each have a host that is doing the same.
MSNBC, you have an ex-Congressman from FL who may or may not have had anything to do with an interns demise who has shown to be something of a joke. Especially after his little laugh attack about right-wing extremism being dangerously on the rise and who, at times, defended torture in our names.
Fox, you have a guy who. near as I can tell, never defended torture in our names, who seems to have not made light of the DHS report, who seems to be a bright fellow (certainly compared to the rest of your crew).
My proposal is for you two entities to trade... "Morning" Joe Scarborough for Shepard Smith.
Joe would fit in nicely at Fox. He does not seem much to care about the truth. Besides, I'm sure Olbermann would love to be able to finally speak out against Joe.
Since it seems that MSNBC is going the way of the truth (not completely, but its better than nothing) and Shep seems to be finding out that a variation of truth is better than no truth at all. Plus, Shep (even thou he is at Fox, is a pretty decent host)
Thing is, this is nothing new. For example. There are a lot of street gangs all over this country, who specifically send their members into the military so that they can get combat training, arms training, explosives training, and so that, they hope, when they do their hitch, they come out, and teach these things to their fellow gang members. This has been going on for awhile. Luckily, there are some gang members who join up, and find out that their old lives were complete and utter crap, and they go on to servce our country with honor and distinction, and they thumb their noses at their former friends and gang members.
But, thing is, it still happens. It's not hard to imagine that extremist groups would try to recruit these guys as they leave the services, especially if they are disgruntled, and or angry about their situations upon leaving the military. I don't think the vast majority will join their groups, but if they even get a few guys to sign up, it's a force multiplier, that they can bring their tactical knowledge and information to these groups, that could make them more dangerous.
I believe that is what the report was saying.
No one in this scenario lacks reading skills. Joe is simply re-inventing his own outrage. He's lying about his previous statements.
And then he says crap like: Krugman's name is on the hate emails. Which makes me wonder if Von Brunn ever watched 'Morning Joe' and agreed with anything.
Anyway, I was thinking that maybe Joe should have his show on a little later in the day, give him a chance to wake up. But then I remembered Beck and Hannity and I recognized that, for some, hosting a show while awake might not be a good thing.
You want to know what his show's like once he's had a chance to wake up? I mean, really? Try listening to his radio show on WABC at 10am. That is, if you want to give yourself a valid reason to hate yourself for the rest of the day.
Scarborough was admitted to the Florida bar in 1991 and was elected to Congress in 1994. Therefore, he practiced law for about 3 years. In the real world, attorneys with 3 years experience do not defend doctors in medical malpractice claims. And as far as the case that he discussed, there are NO reported appellate decisions in Florida that show Scarborough as the attorney of record. In fact, there appear to be no cases decided by the Florida First District Court of Appeals, which considers appeals arising from the Scarborough's Pensacola area, which involved facts similar to those related by Scarborough.
Is Scarborough really a straight talker as his new book would have us believe? Me thinks not.
But by sheer force of personality and looks, they bulldoze and bully their way along the continuum. I'm still feeling sorry for the guy who had to sit through Joe's little diatribe about Jon Stewart the other day. Oy.
I have zero regard for this smug, shrill and overbearing type of person.
And hey, Joe. Nothing in the DHS report "targets" veterens. They are simply filing facts and figures and probabilities to keep our country safe from whomever wishes to do harm.
Good job, MM.
In his new book, telling how repubs can regain power, he omits this sort of thing -- getting away from the Rovian disregard for the truth. (The book is only #81 on Amazon, despite massive promotion, LOL.)
One particular example: This morning he (and others on the show) fell into the Palin lie that Letterman was joking about the 14-year-old. Joe knows it was about the 18-year-old.
Honestly, she should be above this fray, and shouldn't have said really anything at all, but she can't resist trying to be in the limelight and media coverage. She just can't help herself.
If she had more or less ignored this, as in, if someone asked her about the comments, she should have just said, "I thought that they were in bad taste, but Dave Letterman hasn't really been funny in years..." and leave it at that. Instead, she's riding the circuit again, claiming to be victimized by someone in the "media".
Notice Dave hasn't clarified either. Statutory Rape is a crime in NY last time I checked...
Dave made a lousy joke.
Sarah Palin, as a parent, had every right to object to David's joke.
David said his joke was a mistake, he apologized,.....the end...... .........
Except Sarah Palin needs attention. ANY kind of attention will do.
So Palin bank rolled a bad joke about her 18 year old daughter and sex, into statutory rape and self esteem issues for young women.
But if Sarah truly was concerned about her daughter being in the public eye, don't you think she would have stopped after Dave apologized? If Sarah really wanted less attention paid to her children why appear on any and every television show that would have her? Why turn around and insinuate that Dave should be left alone with a 14 year old girl?
Ahhh, the truth.
This fake outrage isn't about Palin's children, rape or a young girls self esteem, it's about Palin needing to make news, any kind of news.
After all, IF Sarah was concerned about the 'public' and her 'children' she would have left them at home during the presidential campaign. IF Palin wasn't trying to USE her OWN children as a campaign poster for so called 'family values' they would have been in the care of her parents, still in school, out of the public eye.
But they weren't.
At almost every campaign stop, day or night, Sarah trotted out her children. Palin even announced on the campaign trail that her daughter was pregnant and then proceeded to put that same pregnant daughter, along with her other children, on stage at every campaign stop.
I've heard some ask what would be said IF the joke had been about Obama's kids.
And I gotta say, there wouldn't have been a joke about Sasha and Malia. Michelle and Barack Obama rarely allow their children out in public. Even now, living in the White House, you see very little of the girls.
They have parents who don't use them for props or pimp in public appearances. They have parents who don't place their children in the spotlight.
The same CANNOT be said for Palin.
What bothers me about this is the way the police are targeting children.
Are parents supposed to pay protection money to the police? Do they take PayPal?
I have rocks in my back yard that are smarter than Joe Scarborough. :-)
When is MSNBC going to get rid of Joe Scarborough???
She could stand to be a lot more forceful though. She often looks wimpy and vanilla compared with Joe who is a first class bully.
This is what has become of my Republican party. I am so frickin' sick and tired of being sick and tired of hearing nonsense upon more nonsense from this party! Has this party not yet hit rock bottom? How low can they possibly go before we are forced to create a 3rd party just to maintain any honesty out of the Democratic party? This is actually hurting America at this point.
Republicans - you sold your soul to the dimwits in this nation and you are now being run by them - spending everyday defending them and their phony outrage at nonsense. You are being controlled by media personalities who play characters on the radio and on TV. What the hell is it going to take? John Danforth where are you?!
The DHS report also asserts with no evidence that an unquantified “resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalizations activity” is due to home foreclosures, job losses, and…the historical presidential election.
The problem is that if the administration is allowed to target veterans with this type of rhetoric while applying a political twist. Now if the report could site SPECIFIC named groups, then we could have the adult conversation you so long for.
Or this? "I am not claiming that this doctor is a charlatan. I don't know his body of work. I am not claiming that he is a hired gun....But too many doctors out there can be bought off by attorneys on either side. And then they come out, instead of telling you the facts..."