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O'Reilly accuses Joan Walsh of having "blood on her hands" for defending Tiller

June 12, 2009 8:52 pm ET

From the June 12th edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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    • Author by phredicles (June 12, 2009 8:55 pm ET)
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      Ah, your standard right-wing blowhard deep in projection. I still hope his moldy backside gets sued.
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      • Author by seeryer (June 12, 2009 11:44 pm ET)
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        I really do not think he knew what Ms Walsh was talking about when she noted the Knoxville wingnut rampage killing. If he had he would have shouted her down. Is it possible he is unaware of this situation? What if liberal ran into a evangelical church and killed social conservatives and left a note behind like that guy did. And had Al Franken and and Michael Moore books? His crusade would have been worse than the Tiller crusade he waged.
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      • Author by TheThief672 (June 13, 2009 11:17 am ET)
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        Pastor wants Obama Dead (and prayed for Tillers death)

        I think this is relevant to this conversation. Watch the link and write back after you pick up your jaw. To quote a line from a Woody Allen movie..."If Jesus came back and saw everything that was being done in his name...he wouldn't stop throwing up"
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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (June 14, 2009 12:11 am ET)
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        For sure. Just ignore that crowd. They are so full of themselves that it is just best to ignore them. Facts are totally foreign to that bunch and instead of fact finding, they just spew the old line, FOR SURE!!!! As I said, just ignore that crowd. They are so full of themselves that it is just best to ignore anything they say. Well, that is unless you want to listen to hate mongering and slander. I get too nauseous when I pay any attention to them. They have no close acquaintance to truth telling!!!!
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        • Author by TheThief672 (June 14, 2009 1:01 am ET)
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          Makes me nauseous as well. To me there was no difference between that pastor and terrorist rhetoric. I ignore that crowd I just the FBI doesn't.
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    • Author by John Paradox (June 12, 2009 8:57 pm ET)
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      Billo, the Doctor Killer.

      Imagine if someone used THAT on him.
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    • Author by magnolialover (June 12, 2009 9:00 pm ET)
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      The man doesn't learn does he?

      What does she have blood on her hands for? Because she defended someone for doing their job? For defending someone that wasn't breaking any laws, and was being targeted by extremists?

      Yeah, I don't think she's the one that has blood on her hands Bill. You sir, are indeed a large scale moron.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (June 12, 2009 9:08 pm ET)
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        BilldO looks like a hysterical lunatic, he may be having a meltdown to rival the one El Lushbo's dealing with.

        Watch him try to recover his composure as Walsh asks the final question (which he dodges).

        That's gotta drive a man to the brink, squashing down your conscience for years and years, until it starts to fight back.Maybe there's a little crumb of that conscience left in Bill, and it's not letting him fool himself as to his part in influencing his nutty followers.
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        • Author by mescal (June 13, 2009 1:11 am ET)
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          No chance, Col. O'Lielly is a sociopath. He feels nothing for anyone but himself. At best, he momentarily calculated the odds of his video vendetta against Dr. Tiller rolling back around and biting him in his dimpled, drooping ass. That was a child's fear that momentarily registered in his face, not guilt, because he is constitutionally incapable of true remorse.
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        • Author by carlileb5935 (June 13, 2009 1:27 am ET)
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          I don't think it's "conscience." It's something the lawyers call 'incitement.'
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      • Author by kschnering7028 (June 12, 2009 9:15 pm ET)
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        O'Reilly calls Dr. Tiller's assassin a domestic terrorist, but the man who assassinated Private William Long is a domestic Muslim terrorist.
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      • Author by wookie (June 12, 2009 10:34 pm ET)
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        Indeed. Bill's wackjob rhetoric continues unabated. Since when does supporting a legal medical procedure mean you have blood on your hands? Though Walsh is urprising effective here she still is only invited to be his scapegoat.
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    • Author by congero6189599 (June 12, 2009 9:04 pm ET)
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      Go Joan!!
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    • Author by snoopy (June 12, 2009 9:07 pm ET)
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      Gee, no surprise there. Ever see a reichwinger take responsibility for anything? Me neither...
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    • Author by ReasonAndResolve (June 12, 2009 9:17 pm ET)
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      Joan Walsh made me proud. She did a great job of skewering SwillBill - especially when she pointed out his hypocracy in trying to make the left wing media responsible for their words while not taking responsibility for his own.

      Blowhole O'Reilly surely has blood on his hands.
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    • Author by dimes (June 12, 2009 9:23 pm ET)
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      The funny thing is that Bill gave a big old "Yes!" when he got her to agree with something she had actually been saying all along, completely oblivious to the fact that she got him to acknowledge his vigilantism, something he's steadfastly denied.

      Nicely played, Ms Walsh.

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    • Author by SteveRiverson162410 (June 12, 2009 9:24 pm ET)
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      If anyone's hands have any blood, it's O'Reilly. I swear, he points the finger but never puts the blame on himself when he knows he is wrong.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 12, 2009 10:04 pm ET)
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        O'Reilly has blood on his hands and water on his brain.
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    • Author by TheThief672 (June 12, 2009 9:27 pm ET)
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      wow! Is this guy the biggest, most absurd person you have ever heard. If his show is the number one show on that time slot then there is something seriously wrong in this country.
      Her last comment like another poster pointed out she dodged because there was only one conclusion and that is...SHE WAS RIGHT!
      BOR knew this and didn't answer it. Seriously, this guy needs to come off our airwaves. We need to do something and I am open to suggestions.
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      • Author by dimes (June 12, 2009 9:33 pm ET)
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        O'Reilly's ratings (between 3-4M people) are about the same as those for Spongebob Squarepants.

        The reality is that very, very few people watch cable news.
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        • Author by TheThief672 (June 13, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
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          Thanks Dimes for putting that in perspective for me. That really is a small percentage.
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          • Author by mary59 (June 13, 2009 6:20 pm ET)
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            Mr. Crabs is much nicer, and Squidward more likeable. Don't know why old re-runs of the sponge couldn't beat out 'ole Bill-O.
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        • Author by Pinhead (June 13, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
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          The people who watch O'Reilly should watch Spongebob instead. I do.
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (June 13, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
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        People need to stop watching him on TV. drive his ratings down. Then he'll be pulled off the air. Good riddence.
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        • Author by teabaggers ♥ NUTS (June 13, 2009 4:10 pm ET)
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          i am ultimately hoping that happens so when he thinks about how popular he is, he realizes he isnt, goes crazy with frustration, makes a comment and has an outburst that gets him fired. and we are singing happy day.
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    • Author by Septicor (June 12, 2009 9:30 pm ET)
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      I think Joan accidently confused Bill for Benard Goldberg about that Knoxville church attack. Otherwise, she held her own nicely.
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    • Author by MoonlitSoup (June 12, 2009 9:32 pm ET)
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      Funny how at 1:20 he is like "i didnt crusade anything" and then at 2:55 he says "YOU BET!" in response to her saying you crusaded against him.
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    • Author by Troublemaker (June 12, 2009 9:34 pm ET)
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      Bill talked circle around that left wing loon hahah . No matter how many times msnbc tries to get ppl to feel sorry for tiller but the left don't understand that America does not care about that man
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    • Author by teabaggers ♥ NUTS (June 12, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
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      i have a real new found respect for joan walsh. i mean im basically a liberal with libertarian views, i dont disagree with her on much, and i find her to be WAY to the left of me... but damn, she kicked oreilly's ass and didnt let him take advantage of her with his yelling and screaming. i love how she didnt let him talk over her, she kept talking, he actually stayed quiet for a little bit, and she tore into him. that was a mauling... thanks bill, you just got exposed, again.

      PS- she also (repeatedly) pointed out his vile references to tiller and the way he would use that pathetic nickname against him. bravo.
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    • Author by tman418 (June 12, 2009 9:54 pm ET)
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      I think this the dumbest I've ever seen O'Reilly.

      According to his logic:

      If you were a fan of John Lennon when he was alive, you have blood on his hands for his murder?

      Ronald Reagan supporters had blood on their hands for his own assassination attempt, because they made him out to be a great president?

      Supporters of Abraham Lincoln had blood on their hands?

      Supporters of Dr. King?

      Supporters of Jews in Germany in WWII?

      Supporters of U.S. troops, for the recruiters that were killed last week?

      O'Reilly is an idiot, as usual. The pro-life movement does not condemn, ever, the killing of abortion doctors. You cannot get them to say that murdering abortion doctors is bad without them saying, "But he/she had it coming and he/she was a baby killer and we have no sympathy".
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      • Author by btrue10280 (June 12, 2009 11:00 pm ET)
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        That was hilarious.
        I thought old Bill was going to bust a gut.
        Fox news hardly even covered the shooting.
        They were busy covering really important topics like how Miss California was so horribly wronged.

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        • Author by fairliberal (June 14, 2009 3:46 pm ET)
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          Yeah isn't it funny how passionate he gets when he is on his mission to protect defenseless unborn babies. Contrast that with the calm and reserved manner in which people like Walsh behave in as they defend the killing of those unborn babies.

          Says a lot doesn't it?
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          • Author by Brabantio (June 14, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
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            Would you rather that Walsh screamed and wailed? I would think that you would say she was unhinged if that was the case, and you would want to know why she was so emotionally invested in her position.
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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 15, 2009 8:40 am ET)
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            Yeah isn't it funny how passionate he gets when he is on his mission to protect defenseless unborn babies.
            You can't defend something that doesn't exist.
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      • Author by Cheney2012 (June 13, 2009 12:20 am ET)
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        tman:

        YOU are the idiot.

        The blood O'Reilly refers to is that of the babies Tiller slaughtered. He's not saying Walsh has Tiller's blood on her hands.
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        • Author by dimes (June 13, 2009 12:32 am ET)
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          Walsh has O'Reilly's blood on her hands.
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        • Author by mescal (June 13, 2009 1:25 am ET)
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          Sorry, Cheney, but Dr. Tiller never killed any babies. A fetus, regardless of any monotonous wingnut mantras to the contrary, is not a baby. You have to be born to be a baby, or a child, or any of the other dishonest euphemisms that reich wingers love to bleat endlessly. The only murder that was committed in Kansas in relation to Dr. Tiller's clinic was by that crazed, pathetic excuse for a human being Scott Roeder, with a big assist from the domestic terrorist organization that calls itself Operation Rescue.
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (June 13, 2009 3:15 am ET)
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          Cheney2012, I recently pointed out how gullible you are on another thread (re: the Politico/ Ben Smith/Holocaust Museum killing). Why don't you go back and apologize for your idiocy there before demonstrating it again here?

          Everybody here knows who BilldO is trying to shift blame to.It's only you pinheads who are falling for it.
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        • Author by jbrantow (June 13, 2009 9:02 am ET)
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          Cheney2012 the real idiot is you. If for the simple screen name you chose......you are the true moron...(unless you are actually liz cheney in hiding)
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        • Author by tman418 (June 13, 2009 2:22 pm ET)
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          The only human being "slaughtered" was Tiller. But you don't have any problem with Tiller's murder. I'm sure your hero Cheney, or even Bush, would offer him a pardon.
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        • Author by solon (June 13, 2009 7:04 pm ET)
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          Dude. YOU are dumb as a post. Seeing you call someone else an idiot is priceless. You THINK your delusions define reality but they dont. Just because you live on Planet wingnut and reality itself is a wholly alien concept to you doenst mean we dont just laugh at you when you do your little clown dance here. If you could be this funny purposely you could make a killing on the stand-up tour
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        • Author by LuvLuLu (June 13, 2009 11:06 pm ET)
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          Dr Tiller didn't slaughter any babies.

          Believe me, if someone slaughters babies, even Liberals are upset by that. We all think murder is wrong, and the murder of innocent babies is really horrific.

          But Dr Tiller didn't murder any babies. He performed a legal medical procedure. Murder is illegal. Abortion is legal.

          It stuns me that people can't comprehend the difference, and think that gross hyperbole is reality. Tiller didn't slaughter any babies, and Joan Walsh doesn't have an blood on her hands since she supports the right of women to take advantage of a legal medical procedure!
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        • Author by CarolinaKitty (June 14, 2009 1:11 am ET)
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          THANK YOU!!! Finally, someone who actually LISTENED to the conversation and followed it.

          Obviously, these people who think that O'Reilly was saying that the woman on his show had blood on her hands for Tiller's death didn't listen to the conversation and are simply regurgitating what they have seen posted on leftwing blogs.

          It was that vile “Pro-Choice Catholic” cretin who accused O’Reilly of “having blood on his hands” for telling the truth about Tiller's "baby-killer-for-hire", late-term abortion business, his practice of ending a babies life, while still in the womb even when there was no medical reason for it and the baby would have been able to live a healthy life if allowed to be born instead of being killed. Tiller was doing it for profit only and didn't care about the baby's health or right to life and became a millionaire doing so.

          O’Reilly told that woman that she “had blood on her hands” for aiding Tiller in his baby killing operation by calling him a “Hero” and encouraging women to have their healthy babies killed in the third trimester for no reason other than they didn’t want it.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (June 15, 2009 3:39 pm ET)
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            You're right about exactly one thing. O'Reilly was referring, as do you, to "babies being slaughtered."

            Now you are free to believe that a fetus, or an embryo, or a zygote, is a baby in essense. Physically and legally, however, it is not. Whether or not we have immortal souls is unknowable, and is a matter of faith. Equally unknowable is when, if it exists, that soul enters the body, making it, to the religious, a human being. You will recall, as a Catholic I guess, that to believe is to make an "act of faith," which has little or nothing to do with reason. Your right to that is, as it should be protected. You have no right to impose that belief on those who choose not to make that act of faith, and no right to act as if the strictures of your faith are a given for all.

            To presume to call those who don't agree with you, and who act within the law and according to their own consciences, "baby killers," is incendiary, culpable, and evil. It is also a step onto a very slippery slope, as the unquestioned murders committed by people who agree with you attest.

            Remember, if you will, the 30 Years War. It was an internecine religious war between Catholic and Protestants, and reduced Europe's population, according to some historians, by 30 percent, if not more. The effects of that kind of fanaticism can still be seen, hopefully in their last throes, on the streets of Northern Ireland. But hatred, especially religious hatred, is very easy to stoke and difficult to eradicate.

            Our Founders were very aware of this danger, and determined to avoid it. That's why our Constitution enshrines freedom of conscience: freedom both of, and from, religion. Back off from your presumptuous, judgmental rhetoric. You are sowing the wind, as the Bible says, and we all may reap the whirlwind.
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      • Author by robyn20094113 (June 13, 2009 5:28 am ET)
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        Billo does the Catholic Church have blood on their hands? The Nuns did not believe in abortion, they just hid their newborns between the walls of the convents or in the grave yards out back.
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    • Author by kschnering7028 (June 12, 2009 10:10 pm ET)
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      O'Reilly calls Dr. Tillers assassin a "domestic terrorsit", but Private William Long's assassin is called "American Muslim terrorist", what gives, I wounder why billo does't mention what religion Dr. Tiller's killer was.
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    • Author by mommycl1992 (June 12, 2009 10:36 pm ET)
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      i could not believe how stupid bill looked at the end od the segment. But did you catch what he said at the when he thanked her for coming and that the audience knows where she is coming from? we do bill. she made you look like something that you always call everyone else and that is a pinhead. someone needs to tell tiller's family to sue the hell out of fox news for defamation, slander and murder
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    • Author by marco21 (June 12, 2009 10:54 pm ET)
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      The far left on the attack? Nutjob.
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    • Author by nj (June 12, 2009 11:19 pm ET)
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      They both came off poorly in this clip, but the hypocrisy of Walsh is laughable. I think it is ridiculous that Walsh, Rachel MadCow, Olbermann and others are trying to intimidate people like O'Reilly into shutting up about late-term abortion/infanticide by pinning blame on him for what some lone wacko did to Tiller the Baby Killer (and yes, that guy should spend the rest of his life in jail for that cowardly shooting).

      Memories are short indeed. Where was the outrage from Walsh, Olbermann or MadCow when Bush was routinely labeled a "murderer" or literally hung in effigy at your left wing protests? Isn't that type of extreme rhetoric just as much (or more) of an incitement to violence as O'Reilly calling Tiller a "baby-killer"? Unfortunately, liberals tend to push the 1st Amendment to the limit in speaking out forcefully for their point of view, which is fine by me, but then turn around and try to muzzle anyone like O'Reilly who disagrees with them.
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    • Author by Rasta Farian (June 12, 2009 11:50 pm ET)
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      Well, Alright Joan Walsh. Talk about cajones! And I'm surprised Orally didn't call for her mic to be cut. I can't stand his "holier than thou" attitude about everything and everyone.

      I think the direction FOXnews is taking is going to be catastrophic for their network, because the country is smarter than these loons.
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    • Author by dimes (June 12, 2009 11:58 pm ET)
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      Gawker weighs in:

      Remember when it was the liberal guests who ended up looking like sputtering morons on the O'Reilly Factor? Tonight it was the host.

      How To Crush Bill O'Reilly.
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    • Author by pags2 (June 13, 2009 2:00 am ET)
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      I watched the whole show and he is a disgrace to the news media. Why would anyone (liberal/loon/left) be interviewed by O'Reilly and Hannity when they know these so called commentators cut them off? It would be better if they tell O'Reilly and Hannity to debate with a third party moderator rather than let O'Reilly and Hannity pretend to be a current events commentator.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (June 13, 2009 4:39 pm ET)
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        About a year or so ago, George Clooney challenged Billdo to just such a third-party moderated, neutral-site debate. He's still waiting for a response from the guy who calls people "cowards," if they won't come on his show to be abused and have their mics cut off.
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        • Author by pags2 (June 14, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
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          It is up to Clooney and others to start calling Billo out on his statements and press for the debate. That can be easily accomplished by very public statements by Clooney for the news media and on every talk show he can get on. At some point, Billo has to respond because ignoring it will paint him as a coward who bullies people when he controls the microphone. Hannity got his comeuppance from Olberman and I am sure Billo would get his also.
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          • Author by thelittlethings (June 15, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
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            Yeah, but the conservatives who love O'Lielly wouldn't look at it like that. They'd stick up for Billo and say "That George Clooney, he's being so mean to our beloved Bill." I highly doubt they would look at it and think "Hey, Bill, why aren't you saying anything?" They're only aware of what Bill wants them to be aware of.
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            • Author by Conchobhar (June 15, 2009 2:50 pm ET)
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              And Clooney would look like he's obsessing about Billdo. Let's face it, he's got bigger fish to fry. Billdo's audience is about four million, according to a recent post, about the same as Sponge Bob Square Pants' draw. I don't know if that's true but, if it is, I'd love to give both demographics an IQ test.
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              • Author by Conchobhar (June 15, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
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                It was Dimes, who posted it three days ago. If you're checking back DoubleNickels, my apologies for not attributing to you initially.
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            • Author by pags2 (June 15, 2009 3:29 pm ET)
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              The idea is to force Billo out into the mainstream media and attention. People who like Billo will not change their opinion unless they perceive him as being "chicken" to debate Clooney. In addition, the middle of the road voters get to see Billo squirm.
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    • Author by business_teacher (June 13, 2009 9:18 am ET)
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      O'Reilly is just a nut case that really needs to attend some anger management classes. What is really scary is that he has such a large viewership (same ass***** that "pray" to Rush I bet). Hats off to Ms. Walsh for even agreeing to appear on that "abusive shouting match" he calls a show. What O'Reilly is really a pro at is manipulation. He manipulates what is suppose to be an "interview" and manipulates his television audience into believing he is conducting one. He does nothing more than feed the raw meat his audience wants to hear. It's all about winning with this guy. He could save a lot of time by just shouting a pictures of "guests" since he doesn't allow them to make their points/counterpoints. In the end, I believe O'Reilly would wear Democrat stripes if he thought he could make more money at it. This guy is really a piece of work . . .
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    • Author by kjholsinger (June 13, 2009 10:28 am ET)
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      Out of curiosity, has Mr. O'Reilly made it a point on his shows to try and inspire movements to change the laws on late-term abortions? Because that would seem to be more practical than just railing against the doctors who do what they're legally allowed to do.
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    • Author by autumgoddess (June 13, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
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      I agree with most of what has been said already. I would just like to add that what BillO and all of these 'pro-lifers' fail to see and do, that Walsh has mentioned she is doing, is working towards "reducing abortions." I am pro-choice, but I believe that most abortions could be, and should be if possible, avoided through proper sex education in schools (not just abstinence only teachings), through proper safer-sex promotion (such as making different forms of birth control available to everyone), and through proper promotion of social service and support for mothers-to-be and new mothers. I think that if we as a society can promote a healthier society in all aspects, and do our best to make women and men both aware of all of the choices and responsible decisions that are available to them, we would see the abortion rate fall. And as a last point (maybe 'lunatic leftist') I think that we could go very far to leave behind this particular form of objectification of women. To say that women cannot do what they need to do with their bodies is ridiculous and repressive. I feel that if all things were the same, and yet men were the ones to carry children and give birth, abortion would not be the hot topic it is -- no one would ever think of taking a man's choice over his body away in the first place.
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    • Author by mikehuck1976 (June 13, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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      "And if the state of Kansas doesn't stop this man, then anybody who prevents that from happening has blood on their hands as the governor does right now, Governor Sebelius."

      This is what O'Reilly said and he has to live with it. Anybody who does not stop Tiller has blood on their hands as Sebelius does. This is the statement that he has to live with and should have thrown back in his face over and over again (just as he should the death mill comments and the rest).

      He is such a despiccable human being that he not only believes this comment deserves no explaining now that someone has stopped this man to keep from having blood on their hands. Not only does he continue to insist that he was only stating facts and that he only called Tiller what he heard others call him. He actually has the nerve to suggest that Joan Walsh has blood on her hands for not insisting that someone stop Tiller (to keep from having blood on their hands).

      You know, I enjoy laughing at this comical windbag as much as anyone. But "fair"-liberal and the rest - it's really not funny anymore. People are being killed and this man continues to pile on as if he is the hero and you apologists continue to excuse his behavior. It has really crossed the line now to dangerous and disgusting.

      This is no longer a partisan issue with this man. It must be made clear that in this country we do not advocate assassinations of people doing things that we WISH were illegal. That is now how this country works and this line of thought cannot be mainstream if we are to continue as a robust democratic republic. If you disagree with a law - get enough votes to vote in the lawmakers and leaders to get the law changed. Do not advocate that "if the state of Kansas doesn't stop this man, then anybody who prevents that from happening has blood on their hands as the governor does right now, Governor Sebelius". And then act as if you have clean hands when that man is murdered.
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    • Author by tman418 (June 13, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
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      O'Reilly clearly came across as an angry nut who makes no sense.

      As usual.
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    • Author by pags2 (June 13, 2009 2:44 pm ET)
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      O'Reilly is using the moral issue to defend his actions about Tiller. The issues are distinct and separate. The real issue is whether O'Reilly's speech contributed to the murder. He is using his 1st Amendment rights to counter the issue which still does not address the issue. No one is disputing that he cannot be legally held responsible but there is a individual responsibility to society for his words. He refuses to address the issue and claims he is the victim of a smear so as to avoid the issue.
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    • Author by jmh (June 13, 2009 4:09 pm ET)
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      to digress ,
      seems to me Mr. O'Reilly's value system would demand
      that he call for the death penalty in this case, instead of his backdoor hero-worship for the alleged (legally speaking) murderer in this case.
      This murder took place in a church.
      Although not technically correct, I suppose, this is special circumstances in my book... and I am not even religious...
      Turns out values is just talking-point with this
      failure-of-a --broadcaster. O'Reilly the Misanthrope
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    • Author by Conchobhar (June 13, 2009 4:51 pm ET)
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      I love to see Billdo get his encephalitic head handed to him, and I REALLY love it when the person who nails him has an Irish name.
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    • Author by millrace (June 13, 2009 8:44 pm ET)
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      the real truth is that the man is a really incredibly big old bully - as he clearly demonstrated here. that is really all he is. anybody could do the rest of the show, but the bullying is slightly more difficult. and, as the big fish in his own self-defined and unpoliced pond, he is able to continue with the bullying without being held to account

      and there, of course, is another part of the problem - another reason his viewers feel they have the right to take the law into their own hands.

      they are encouraged to not respect the institution of law, they are encouraged to take vigilante action against laws they don't like, they see bullying as acceptable and funny, they see violence as being justified on the basis of what a talking head tells them to believe, and they are brainwashed with a warped wordlview filling them with intolerance designed primarily to preserve republican wedge issues

      the problem is, now, that through the internet, the talking heads suddenly find themselves in a bigger pond, and as they struggle to cope so they're taking the republican party down with them

      the republican party has to reinvent itself
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    • Author by stratight shooter (June 14, 2009 12:41 am ET)
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      you must be kidding...I watched this interview....and the first accusation of ms maddow the FIRST JUST LAST WEEK TO accuse someone she doesnt even know of being a right wing extremist..ie shooting in haulocast case....I am so sick of the polarized media using their platform for nothing but polarized politcal fighting to shoot at each other... there is no such thing as true media reporting as the media OWNERS AND SO CALLED REPORTERS LEAVE THE REAL STUFF OFF THE TABLE this is not reporting...just pull it off the ap network....there is no investigating just arguing back and forth and idiotic media matters like this so they can track each other your out of you f ing minds...ALL OF YOU... mean while you let the BIG MONEY THAT REALLY CONTROLS IT ALL CONTROL YOU.....GET A LIFE AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE LIKE follow your local legislators and watch what bills they support and the READ THE CONSTITUTION...I WOULD ALMOST GUARANTEE ALMOST EVERYONE OF YOU WITHOUT FAIL HAVENT READ IT LATELY..WATCH WHAT THE PEOPLE YOU VOTED FOR DO YOU IDIOTS....LIKE OBAMA AND BUSH AND ON AND ON...THEY SAY ONE THING AND DO ANOTHER...MOST EVERY BILL PEOLOSI AND FRIENDS INTRODUCE IS ILLEGAL...OR UNCONSTITUTIONAL..GO READ THEM YOURSELVES...AND MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE FIND SOME DAMN HONEST PEOPLE TO PUT IN GOV...545 PEOPLE LEGISLATE...SPEND AND CONTROL ALL OF IT ON YOUR DIME...WAKE UP...YOUR JUST LOSING YOUR RIGHTS AT A RECORD PACE...ITS THE ONES WHO SCREAMED THE LOUDEST TO DEFEND THEIR CANDIDATE..CAUSE HE WAS SUCH A SMOOTH TALKER THAT WOKE UP WITH NO FREEDOMS RIGHT WHERE WE ARE AT NOW....
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      • Author by Conchobhar (June 15, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
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        Your argument isn't advanced by the SHOUTING! It just makes you look like an eedjit.
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    • Author by jstarr99 (June 14, 2009 12:45 am ET)
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      First Bill says he didn't crusade, then later in the interview he says he did.....make up your mind Bill!!!!
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    • Author by njguy93 (June 14, 2009 4:21 am ET)
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      THANK YOU.
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    • Author by rtdavis11200 (June 14, 2009 6:54 am ET)
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      O'Reilly just got his clock cleaned. More writers like Joan Walsh should take this pinhead on. This would show his viewers what a idiot like him , Beck and Hannity truly are.

      Beck preaches to his listners that the goverment is coming to get you. When he gets called on it he tries to deny the intent of his comments.

      Hannity is the king of editing the Presidents statements to help spread his hate to the uneducated.

      Fox is being monitored closely and it was long overdue.
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    • Author by AhTriniMD836 (June 14, 2009 9:04 am ET)
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      This is the perfect example of delusion. Here is this idiot, claiming that the fact, that he mentioned Dr. Tiller as Dr. Killer over 25 times on his show does NOT, make blood on his hands for his murder by right wing demagogues, but because Joan Walsh and the left, supported Dr. Tiller's legal work, they have blood on their hands. ONLY idiots listen and agree with this man, and yes, they are educated idiots, obviously, bill-o the clown, with a MA from Boston U, is one of them.
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    • Author by tjmccool2284 (June 14, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
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      Oh, that crazy Bill. I liked when he told Joan that he wouldn't condemn her for her views and then in the next breath called her vile and despicable.
      Bill, that sounds a lot like condemning her.
      How did Bill, another Irish Catholic end up on Fox? He'd fit like a glove at MSNBC or the Supreme Court. His paddy moralizing grates.
      He thinks that Joan, another Irish Catholic (?), can be bullied by using the word condemned with its connotations of eternal damnation. Bill wants to use the Catholic doctrine as if that's the law, or oughr to be.
      What Bill doesn't get is that the Catholic Church's laws are for Catholics to follow. There's nothing in the teachings that civil law is to be ignored whenever it doesn;t conform.
      How easy it is to forget that the founders insisted on separation of church and state for situations just like that of Dr. Tiller.
      Render unto and all that.
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    • Author by Gidget15 (June 14, 2009 2:18 pm ET)
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      I don't understand anyone going on his program. unless they're masochistic. He spreads hate and evil at every turn. Then calls it his constitutional right. You're correct Bill. You are slanted so far to the right that you shouldn't have access to any media that spreads your hate. That angers him as he says he is independent. Maybe independent to rational thinking.
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    • Author by magnolialover (June 15, 2009 8:27 am ET)
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      Waslh wrote an article on Salon about her O'Reilly show appearance, it's worth a read. I forget what the link is now, but check it out if/when you all get a chance. Even in her article, she was fairly even handed with O'Reilly, as in she gave him credit where she thought he deserved it, and trounced him when he deserved it.

      I did gain some additional respect for her after seeing her exchange with Bill O'Reilly.
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