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On Fox, Robert Maginnis suggests military strikes on North Korea

June 16, 2009 5:39 pm ET

From the June 16th edition of Fox News' Studio B:

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In April 2008, David Barstow reported in his New York Times exposé on media military analysts:

Another analyst, Robert L. Maginnis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel who works in the Pentagon for a military contractor, attended the same briefing and recalled feeling "very disappointed" after being shown satellite photographs purporting to show bunkers associated with a hidden weapons program. Mr. Maginnis said he concluded that the analysts were being "manipulated" to convey a false sense of certainty about the evidence of the weapons. Yet he and Mr. Bevelacqua and the other analysts who attended the briefing did not share any misgivings with the American public.

Previously on Fox...

Kristol says "it may be worth doing some targeted air strikes" in North Korea, Hume agrees

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    • Author by shaggles (June 16, 2009 5:49 pm ET)
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      Diplomacy? We don't need no stinking diplomacy.

      The sad thing is even if this was a good idea our military is stretched so thin we probably couldn't pull it off.
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      • Author by pete592 (June 16, 2009 6:15 pm ET)
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        The best way to make regimes such as the one in North Korea less receptive to diplomacy is to bluster about them and rattle sabers in the media. It's especially effective when our elected leaders do it.
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 17, 2009 8:45 am ET)
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        The sad thing is even if this was a good idea our military is stretched so thin we probably couldn't pull it off.


        Yes we could easily pull it off. Notice the date on my link:

        Troop strength in RSK

        While the tours are taking a toll on our soldiers don't confuse that with being stretched to thin. Since WWII, the US has contingency plans for a multiple theater scenario.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 17, 2009 8:47 am ET)
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          I'm not advocating strikes in N Korea...just pointing out that we could pull it off if so taxed.
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        • Author by shaggles (June 17, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
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          IMO the fact that we were sending National Guard troops to Iraq is a sign that we were stretched to thin. Maybe we aren't anymore but I don't think we can handle a third war right now.
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          • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 18, 2009 9:04 am ET)
               
            Guard troops were used in every major conflict since WWII. That is why they exist. I will agree that we can't mentally handle a third war right now, but it's not because of manpower.
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    • Author by snoopy (June 16, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
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      A 3 front war. sure, why not? I just know all the reichwing armchair refereedomers will be signing up en masse...
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    • Author by Pinhead (June 16, 2009 6:03 pm ET)
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      Robert L. Maginnis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel who works in the Pentagon for a military contractor


      Gee, I wonder why he'd pushing for war.
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      • Author by shaggles (June 17, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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        As Sen. Grassley might say, "When you're a hammer everything looks like a nail."
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    • Author by mjh (June 16, 2009 6:41 pm ET)
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      Military strikes: the wingnuts' one-size-fits-all answer to everything . . .

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      • Author by overmars jr. (June 16, 2009 7:02 pm ET)
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        What else will keep the military industrial complex rolling in the dough?

        Diplomacy is bad for business.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 17, 2009 8:48 am ET)
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          Tell us more about that "military industrial complex"...
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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (June 17, 2009 9:47 am ET)
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            Look it up yourself. Why do cons always have to get others to remedy their own ignorance? Learn how to find things on your own for once. And by that I don't mean WorldNutDaily. Or DefenseLink.mil.
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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 17, 2009 10:04 am ET)
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              Oh easy it sure is easy to get your dander up. I know the answer. I'm not sure if o Jr.(or yourself for that matter) knows what he speaks of, or if he's just spouting off those tired left wing talking points that I've debunked on here many times.

              I'll ask you. What was Eisenhower telling us, in context, about the MIC?
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              • Author by pete592 (June 17, 2009 11:04 am ET)
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                Watch Iraq For SaleYour text to link here... and you'll see exactly what Eisenhower was warning us about.
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                • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 18, 2009 8:24 am ET)
                     
                  Although I think you could make a case for a group like BW today, I'm pretty sure this wasn't what Ike was warning us about. I think it's safe to classify them as security and not the complex for now. Let's not forget also that Ike started this portion of the speech that the left likes to jog out with this:

                  A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

                  Remember as Ike was leaving office that the Cold War was only fourteen years old. The space race was four years old. It was a time of hyper-spending and escalation of arms that we will never again see in our lifetimes. Ike's children have been quoted as saying his original line as he practiced the speech was the "military-industrial-congressional complex". We can only guess as to why he changed it.
                  Before we start to slag BW, just remember that when Hillary or any of our esteemed congressmen go on a little three hour tour of Baghdad guess who is doing their security? You guessed it. Blackwater.

                  One more observation on the link. I noticed it is heavy on the class warfare. Why make the point he was the richest guy in the armed forces? Did he serve his country honorably? Why does his background matter?
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                • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 18, 2009 8:24 am ET)
                     
                  Although I think you could make a case for a group like BW today, I'm pretty sure this wasn't what Ike was warning us about. I think it's safe to classify them as security and not the complex for now. Let's not forget also that Ike started this portion of the speech that the left likes to jog out with this:

                  A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

                  Remember as Ike was leaving office that the Cold War was only fourteen years old. The space race was four years old. It was a time of hyper-spending and escalation of arms that we will never again see in our lifetimes. Ike's children have been quoted as saying his original line as he practiced the speech was the "military-industrial-congressional complex". We can only guess as to why he changed it.
                  Before we start to slag BW, just remember that when Hillary or any of our esteemed congressmen go on a little three hour tour of Baghdad guess who is doing their security? You guessed it. Blackwater.

                  One more observation on the link. I noticed it is heavy on the class warfare. Why make the point he was the richest guy in the armed forces? Did he serve his country honorably? Why does his background matter?
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                  • Author by overmars jr. (June 18, 2009 6:35 pm ET)
                       
                    "A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction."


                    THIS is not the issue at hand. At all. And you know it.

                    As for Blackwater, that's a mere iceberg tip. And you know it.
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                    • Author by Tbone Slickens (June 19, 2009 9:24 am ET)
                         
                      Ah...another member of the echo chamber who hasn't read Ike's speech.

                      This IS the issue at hand. If you had read the speech then you would know this is the preface to the MIC line.

                      Please make your case for Blackwater being the tip of the berg. If this is what you're calling the "complex" then you need to hit the books more.

                      Sadly you don't know it.
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                      • Author by overmars jr. (June 19, 2009 12:36 pm ET)
                           
                        If you keep moving the goalposts and acting like easily attainable knowledge doesn't exist, why should I bother?
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      • Author by shaggles (June 17, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
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        Maybe they should've tried that on Wall Street. j/k ;)
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    • Author by Martha (June 16, 2009 7:02 pm ET)
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      Two wars is not ENOUGH?? Good grief! Thank GOD these IDIOTS are no where NEAR the nuclear codes!

      The US would not see the end of 2009 as a country if they were.


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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (June 16, 2009 7:45 pm ET)
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      Ok Mr McGinnis. You lead the way. that way, if we have to turn around and run, we will be in front.
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      • Author by phredicles (June 16, 2009 7:51 pm ET)
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        Heck, I'm content to nominate him to be reporting live from Seoul (or what's left of it) when his brilliant advice is taken.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (June 16, 2009 11:57 pm ET)
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      And who decided to use the words promionently displayed( FOX Urgent ). What is " urgent ". What is the basis ? As a news organization, FOX ghas the responsibility, as well as other venues , to report truthfully if there is a really urgent matter. Not whip up thgose easily scared by rumors.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 17, 2009 9:05 am ET)
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      Personally, I'd LOVE to attack North Korea. If there was ever a country in need of regime change NK is it. (Iran too, but then... they have elections there... oh... wait...)

      ANYWAY...

      The PROBLEM that these neocons don't grasp (big surprise) is one of the tactical disadvatages from the POV of our key allies (and thus our key interests) in the region. NK has enough conventional artillery positioned along the southern border to bascially level Seoul in about 20 minutes. They also have the capability to hit Tokyo. (Well... By HIT I mean that Tokyo is IN RANGE. To be fair they might not be able to hit the taget... their aim is about as precise as a Phil Niekro knuckleball, but I digress.)

      So what to do? If we invade, there will likely be HEAVY civilian casualties on the side of our allies. Nuke 'em? Heavy civilian causualitioes on their side - to an unacceptable degree - plus the loss of diplomatic support the world over AND the fact that they're so close to SK - our ally - that we can't guarentee THEY won't have radioactive fallout coming their way if there's ever a slight southerly breeze.

      Militarily speaking, it is the "land of lousy options." There's no really GOOD WAY to deal with them militarily. And that's a shame, becasue Kim Jong Il is a madman, and I don't trust him as far as I can throw him, diplomatically speaking. And, as we should all know by know, SANCTIONS, while necessary, are basically useless. (Look at Castro - he's still (basically) in power after FIVE of the US presidents who opposed him are DEAD.)

      All that being said, I still sleep easy knowing that the cool head of my president, Barack Hussein Obama, will ultimately be calling the shots. No wars will start because of Cowboy Idiocy, and if a retaliation IS warranted... we'll show them the Chicago way. ("They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They sent one or your gusy the hospital, you send one of their's the the morgue! That's the Chicago way!" ~Sean Connery, the Untouchables)

      KJ-Il has an opportunity here to deal with a reasonable western leader. He, and his conutry, will come to regret it if he squanders that opportunity.
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